Are open bolt guns INHERENTLY inaccurate on the first shot/semi auto?
yeah.
Mechanically, no, but the bolt slamming forward is very likely to disrupt your sights/point of aim. If you clamped it down in a vise it would be as accurate as anything with the same quality of barrel
>>65442270>but the bolt slamming forward is very likely to disrupt your sights/point of aim.the much longer lock time also gives you more opportunity to throw off your aim as well
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>>65442292Yep. Pack it in boys. No reason to post anything in this thread anymore except to be a faggot.
>>65442251I can't find the exact article, but some dudes in the Polish (I think) army put a magnified optic on the pkm and used it in "single fire" as a sort of makeshift dmr
>>65442251Inherited one of those and two streetsweepers from my late brother.Straight piece of shit that rusts no matter how much I clean it.
>>65443425You have a glorious collection. I would literally suck 400 dicks for that Spas 12. The spas 15's are cool too.
>>65442270>>65442278This is why you should practice with a pellet rifle or flintlock rifle.
>>65442472Carlos Hathcock sniped with a M2 Browning, so it can be done.
>>65443425Forget CLP, you need some straight up maritime rust preventer or similar. Not sure what you'd need for something that rusty, maybe a paste so it stays on when oil runs off or evaporates.
>>65443560the browning is closed bolt and is mounted on a tripod, not really the same thing m8
>>65442472the PKM's got dogshit accuracy, I think around 6 MOA
Realistically no, since the bullet is static when it's sitting in the chamber. As other Anons have said, the motion of the bolt going forward and the longer time you have to sway has more an affect than the gun itself being open or closed bolt.
>>65443553A flintlock rifle doesnt have a 2 pound mass flying forward 6 inches upon firingIts not just about lock time
>>65443598Thats entirely normal for military weapons, M4s standard for acceptance is 5 moa, and will generally shoot around 3-4 when theyre zeroed to an optic; and the standards get looser for MGs.
>>65443980I'm sure your mother and her boyfriend are very proud of your speed reading abilities, but it's negatively affecting your reading comprehension.
>>65443980Muskets both flintlock and percussion have a delay when you pull the trigger. Flintlocks have more of a delay because it needs to light the charge in the pan, but percussion also does when striking the cap, which is enough time to make you naturally flinch from the cap going off and mess up your shot. Hang fires also happen sometimes which gives you a significant window of time to fuck up your shot.>t. percussion musket owner
>>65443598>the PKM's got dogshit accuracy, I think around 6 MOAThis dude has NEVER shot a PKM.I shot locally produced PKM during my service in the Bulgarian army.Two things the vast majority of service members praised was the weight and accuracy. If you want to use those faggot terms, I'd give the PKM a MOA of 2,5-3.
>>65442270>>65443971Would it be possible to have a very strong spring that slams the bolt forward so fast, the shot goes off before your point of aim is negatively affected?
>>65442251Yes, because the open bolt creates an additional delay and movement of the action between the user activating the trigger and the primer being ignited.
>>65444340That's a fucking lie you turk rapebaby mystery meat balkanoid. The PKM feed cover doesn't even hold zero enough for 2.5-3 MOA. 7.62x54r ammo is usually 3 MOA. Now you're introducing a sloppy quick change barrel mechanism that's adding even more variance to this equation on top of it being open bolt. Stop lying
>>65444618physics doesn't work that way
>>65444864>7.62x54r ammo is usually 3 MOA.Stopped reading there. You genuinely have no idea what you are talking about.
>>65445917Russian surplus ammo most definitely is
We have to go back to a single-shot riflehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShVc9ODI9KIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsEMKt3ZUeE
