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Hypothetic; you're in a city that has a lot of tension between groups and the police. There's potential of a police strike or police pulling back in a potential riot. So you and 8-10 like minded individuals have decided to prepare. You and most of the group is familiar with firearms, a few ex military. Together you've pooled together about 15k all together for gear and supplies to protect your neighborhood. What kind of gear do you pick, preparing for 2-3 days of unrest and how do you train a group?
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>>65448546
In a scenario where you are stuck in a liberal hellhole that will prosecute you for any defensive action you take after the fact. What you really want is deterrence rather than actual lethal force. See a large band of urban youths start vandalizing cars down the block, have someone shoot a roman candle at them and have someone else take out a couple knee caps from concealment. This is all in minecraft of course.
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>>65448546
>2-3 days
If it's just 2-3 days, it doesn't matter what you have. Fight with whatever you have. When you are talking weeks to months it starts to matter a little more. In today's day in age, I would put all that into drones with some homemade explosives. Use the drop strategy before suicide drone to make them last longer. With some fiberoptic cable setups you could be a one man army for a long time.
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most of these riots take place in the commercial districts so it really doesn't matter. they aren't breaking into apartments.
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I side with the cops
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>>65448546
Rifles for everyone and a rotating 3 person lookout team
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Car bombs on every street, used against the civilian population.
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Just 3 days? Buy a bunch of bottles water and nonperishables from Walmart, barricade a building, and have rotating overwatch teams with rifles. It doesn't have to be gucchi just PSA ARs. Most importantly spend the rest of the money on firefighting stuff so you don't get Wacoed by a mob.
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>>65448716
Pretty much this. Unless you expect a prolonged police strike and massive uproar from organized groups, you’re fine. Hunker down with some food, water, and a few guns and play video games. Unless you live next door to a bank or government building, you’re fine.
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>>65448546
solution: i live in europe so i don't have to think about the most effective way to kill my nextdoor neighbor
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>>65448753
This cope doesn't work when you import millions of people that want to destroy you
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>>65448764
and this cope doesn't work when you use it as argument every single time, having in mind your whole country is created by emigrants
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>>65448768
>and this cope doesn't work when you use it as argument every single time
an argument doesn't lose veracity because you say it a lot. It seems that you don't get it, that's why it keeps being said.
>having in mind your whole country is created by emigrants
non sequitur. Maybe European women wouldn't get raped so much by your migrants if they had guns. But please keep bragging about how you don't need a gun because there are no crimes where you are
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>>65448546
>15k
Overkill for 3 days of unrest. Plus where exactly are you in the city? If you honestly believe you are in a CHAZ like area (extremely unlikely), rent a uhaul or have your buddy lend you his truck and get tf out of there. Thats supremely stupid negligence. If you are in the city suburbs, stock up on supplies. Food, water, toothpaste, gasoline. When things go down, you want to be bunkered down in your home and have no reason to leave. You don’t want to get jumped at a roadblock because you had to go to walmart or the gas station. You are weakest when you are alone and vulnerable…so just don’t allow yourself to be an easy target.
Lets be real, next time shit does down, I’m inviting some workplace cuties over to watch World War Z and eat snacks while I autistically show them the arsenal I have that will keep them safe
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>>65448782
nice wall of text where you specifically let everyone know that you've never left the hilbilly armpit of a village you were born in, lmao
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>>65448791
>non sequitur response
I accept your concession
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>>65448795
>has no arguments
>declares victory
you go, king
one suggestion tho: get a trip outside of your dystopian country and see the world
it will suck realising you were lied since childhood, but it will serve you better on the long run
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>>65448753
You guys are poor as shit and can’t defend your own women and children.
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>>65448808
>bases his world view on memes
the guy on top owns nothing and is on debt, btw
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>>65448546
Leave. Probably a bunch of niggers doing that shit over some other dude who couldn't breath again.
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>>65448807
I offered arguments and you didn't bother to read them. I guess european education is not too good since all you have are outdated stereotypes
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>>65448824
>x is nothing but browns, blacks and rape
how much do you want to bet that there's more browns, blacks and rapes in the US?
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>>65448816
Just saying I’m a mediocre engineer and I make ~50% more than my counterparts in europe. Its not a meme that you guys are struggling economically.
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>>65448824
yeah, outdated stereotypes... as contrary to the "rapefugees", am i right?
i the meantime i can walk across the city with my hands int pockets whistling, and the worst that can happen would be a stray dog bark at me
you do that in the US and if you don't get mogged, you'll end up arrested for committing the crime of walking
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>>65448828
Who cares about the US? You went out of your way to 10x the rapes of your women and then you try to act smug and claim you don't need the implements to defend yourself. You are the precise reason your continent is destroyed
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>>65448835
>you do that in the US and if you don't get mogged, you'll end up arrested for committing the crime of walking
lol no nothing would happen either. Meanwhile look at Cuerta. But I guess that's all AI
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>>65448546
The most important thing you need for a defensive neighborhood militia is pic related. Cell phone service and internet may be disrupted during a period of rioting, either from the authorities intentionally cutting off communications, or from infrastructure being damaged/looted by the rioters. The ability to reliably coordinate as a group provides a massive advantage over a disorganized mob and prevents members from getting isolated and picked off.

The other big one is making sure that everyone keeps a decent number of loaded mags on hand. Having a thousand rounds of 5.56 won't do you much good in a riot if its still sitting in its boxes with only one or two mags.
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>>65448832
>muh salary
yet you own nothing and you are one hospitalization for flu away from bankruptcy
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>>65448838
>who cares about the US
precisely, you don't care about your people getting raped. just that others are also getting raped even if it's at a much reduced rate.
it's 110% zigger mentality
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>>65448841
>some obscure autonomous region of Spain, located in Morocco
yeah bro, just look at the random-hillbilly-cousin-fucker village of Tennessee! it's ogre
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>>65448862
No I care that you show up acting high and mighty when you went out of your way to destroy your women for no good reason. It's funny how you only respond to a tiny piece of my reply and don't engage with the actual substance of anything I say because you literally don't have an argument.
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>>65448857
>everything i know about america i know from a clickbait news article headline
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>>65448866
> random-hillbilly-cousin-fucker village of Tennessee!
You're not making a point, those people are not causing a problem.
>some obscure autonomous region of Spain
Yeah man lets just have everything invaded until there's nothing left. No big deal. I think you'll get people to agree with you on reddit
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>>65448842
What kind of range can you get out of handheld with a small repeater? Or would sticking to GMRS frequencies probably be enough?
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>>65448872
so the clickbait article lied that the US healthcare is abysmal? calling an ambulance is not like 1000$?
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>>65448868
>but muh blacks in Europe and rape
why would I engage with your retardation
you don't care if there's more in the US, just that there's rape in Europe. there's no reasoning with someone like that.
so keep coping about caring less about your own women than those in Europe
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>>65448875
lmao, have you ever left the US? legit question
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>>65448885
Euro healthcare will have you die in a 6 week queue because you imported millions using the system without paying into it
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>>65448546
pointless scenario because at least 3 of the guys are guaranteed to be feds
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>>65448885
Ambulance ride is free in my town, volunteer service. The bill starts when they dump you in the ER. You would know that sort of stuff if you went outside and actually did things instead of hiding scared in your apartment
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>>65448885

do you have any idea how infrequently people call ambulances for themselves or their family? and sure out of pocket its that much but if you have health insurance it DOES cover emergency shit like that if you opt in.
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>>65448857
Good thing I live healthy and accept the risks I take. Better to accept some risk and live a life well lived than being a wage slave to a government that is trying to replace you. (btw your healthcare systems are becoming 3rd world tier, so congrats on bankrupting your economies for nothing)
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>>65448875
>if we encourage the morrocans to violate your borders because you didn't let us use your airspace for our retarded war that means you are a weak and stupid dodoface
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>>65448886
No, for the third time I care that you 10x your rape in Europe for no reason and you act smug acting like women don't need a weapon to defend themselves. If you're anti gun you are pro rape. Very simple
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>>65448891
is that what your FOX newsfeed tells you? yeah, i guess the fact that life expectancy in the EU is higher than that in the US is due to our shitty healthcare system...
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>>65448888
You argue like a woman.
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>>65448899
>Deflecting responsibility
You welcome them with open arms and a smile on your face
>>65448902
oh so getting all your opinions from headlines is ok when you do it but not when I do it? You just dunked on yourself
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>>65448546
AR-15s with whatever optic you prefer, ammo and lots of sandbags to create emplacements in strategic locations - chokepoints, vantage points etc
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>>65448895
>they have to volunteer ambulances
absolutely grim
>>65448895
and how much your health insurance costs a month, again? because my universal healthcare is like 20€ a month, and ambulance (not volunteered), ER treatment and medications are free (as 0 €)
>>65448896
yeah, you will be young and healty forever, your parents and siblings too
smart man
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>>65448902
>angry, nogunz, europoor
Ouch that's a shit hand, so why are you here? Just to seethe and cry? That's pretty sad lol.
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>seething so hard he's misquoting replies
LOOOOOOOOOL
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>>65448901
Giving women weapons is a bandaid dystopian solution to begin with. Men should be protecting their women and carving out societies where that can walk around and frolic in peace. Why muslims btw? They could have imported asians/south americans, but instead chose the most white hating rapist lazy societies to become immigrants. Absolute madness.
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>>65448901
>I care
you don't, it's a talking point you bring up so you can act all smug
>10x it isn't
the US has 35 rapes per 100,000
the EU has 21 rapes per 100,000
but it's the pathetic eurocucks not protecting their women or something
by your retard logic more guns = more rape
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>>65448908
good deflection, but still, have you seen how people live outside of Trumpland?
>>65448911
am i wrong? is the life expectancy in the EU higher then the one in the US?
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>>65448914
Stay mad slave.
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>>65448917
good comeback Bubba, yee-haw! pew-pew!
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>>65448925
t.Isreael's best goy
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>eurocuck is melting down harder than an RBMK
gonna be a six month wait for those blood pressure meds, seething like this isn't good for you!
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>>65448920
Correct, the policy makers live in gated communities and are immune to the consequences of their policies
>>65448921
>you don't, it's a talking point you bring up so you can act all smug
lol how are you going to project smug on me when that's how you started this whole thing?
>correlation causation fallacy
you are really bad at arguing. Why did you 10x the rapes in europe? Answer that
>good deflection, but still, have you seen how people live outside of Trumpland?
you argue like a woman. I'm waiting for you to call me an incel so you can pretend you're right


Also why the fuck are you on /k/. You know this is a gun board right?
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>>65448914
>Just 20 monopoly bucks a month to wait 6 weeks in line and get sicker and die
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>>65448911
so you deny that the marrocan security services have be cought beating people to drive them into Spain
you deny they have been beating those that try to leave
and you deny that after the Spanish refused the US use of it's air space the suddenly changed it's stance on who the enclave belongs too
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>>65448942
i mean, i can google how much health insurance costs in the US and yet you have to rely on VOLUNTEERS to get you to the ER (where the real financial rape begins), but if you want to have a honest conversation, you have to contribute as well
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>>65448943
I believe in geopolitics a lot of actors are doing a lot of things that are bad for you. I also believe that europeans welcome them in with open arms and you simply will not take accountability for that. Therefore nothing will ever change
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>>65448768
Yeah everyone from the Irish on was a mistake.
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>>65448943
i upped my rspect to Spain when they deny their airspace to the US and Israel
that was a very based decision, i wish we did the same
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>>65448938
look man the US has 50% more rape than the EU. even with the brown that need to be kicked out.
your women are getting raped 50% more and all you can think about is to "whatabout". but that at least makes it clear what you are, a shitskin. who else thinks about rape and whataboutism all the time but shitskins?
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>>65448828
Yes. Because we actually count them.
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>>65448948
My point is there's downsides to both systems. Here are some more points
>I would never give up the 2nd amendment for gay ass healthcare
>Gun rights and healthcare are not mutually exclusive so I don't know why you're bringing it up in the first place
>This is /k/ and we like guns here. So don't be a gay ass nogunz europoor acting like you're better than us
>You don't live in a democracy if your citizens don't have guns
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>>65448955
are you 1/78 Irish? that's pretty based, i bet you woud be a seen as a rockstar if you visit Ireland, or like you call it "Eire" :)
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>>65448914
>and how much your health insurance costs a month, again? because my universal healthcare is like 20€ a month, and ambulance (not volunteered), ER treatment and medications are free (as 0 €)
Is it really this easy to trick europeans into handing over +50% of their wages and have them scrounging for basic luxury and minimal savings for the rest of their lives? “free education”, “free healthcare” just to lock you into being poor wage slaves to prop up your dying, undemocratic, anti white governments?
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>>65448949
>that europeans welcome them in with open arms
that why the far right is polling better than ever in Europe and why the US has to conspire to keep pushing more of them into Europe
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>>65448959
You came in seething about guns when you 10x the rape of your women and then don't give them recourse to defend themselves. Why did you do that?
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>>65448966
>le US did everything!
You did it to yourself
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>>65448961
its 120$/m
you pay 120$ (the absolute minimum) a month to maybe get driven by your neighbor volunteering as ambulance to the ER
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>>65448975
you're hanging on to something obscure that basically nobody does
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>>65448968
>10x
US rapes 35/100,000
EU rapes 21/100,000
so americans are so nigger brained that they rape 15x compared to native Europeans. but that somehow makes you superior.
>give them recourse to defend themselves
if we look at the data having more recouse to defend themselves isn't unraping American women
>You came in seething about guns
nah I like guns and there should be more people with more guns. I came here to make you look like a spastic retard.
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>>65448965
I'm starting to think Americans in general don't know how the % works...
my tax on my income is 10%, i can get medical treatment for free, my free education teached me to learn and not pick answers from a list, and you live in a corporation sponsored dictatorship my guy
that's why I'm telling you to travel more outside of the US, but i guess you can't afford that and your boss will definitely wont be happy to learn you want a day off in "free" and "democratic" USA
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>>65448971
so Spain drove marrocans into Spain so it can have than barr them from going to mainland Spain or requesting asylum
all right after the US told marroco it is back them in their territorial dispute with Spain
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>>65448978
>helathcare is something obscure in the US
dystopian, but also very grim
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>>65448980
Ok but why did you invite in immigrants the made the euro rape rate go up by 10x and then act smug claiming that there is no need for guns?
>if we look at the data having more recouse to defend themselves isn't unraping American women
It's preventing lots of rapes
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>>65448986
Just make them turn back. But you wont
>>65448988
Your weird volunteer ambulance is obscure, retard. You argue like a leftist because you're purposefully pretending not to understand basic sentences.
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>>65448989
you realize thee migrants were coming from countries the US and Israel started having wars with, right?
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>>65448993
Don't forget how involved Europe was with Libya.
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>>65448989
so if women in the US didn't have guns then burgers would be what 30 times as likely to commit rape than Europeans
and that is a dig on the Europeans how?
now I know you like making shit up like your 10x, that's how I know you aren't an engineer or a burger
the rape obsession is a big give away desu
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>>65448993
ok, can you take accountability for not turning them back?
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>>65448990
>Just make them turn back
wtf do you think is happening
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>>65448990
some of your compatriots mentioned the volunteering ambulances that i didn't even knew before that
so ok, let's get back to - you pay minimum of 120$/m for health insurance, but the ambulance call cost you a crisp 1000$ bill, still.
i got it now, yeah you win the US is definitely a first world country.
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>>65448998
yes, i take acountability fot the US and Israel geopolitics... retard
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>>65448959
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>>65448996
>Hey let's massively increase crime
>also you can't defend yourself
>also I'm smug because I can't defend myself
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>>65449000
not that
>>65449001
what does this have to do with firearms?
I'm not giving up guns because I need to subsidize fat people getting ozempic
>>65449003
This is why europe is a shit continent. You can never take responsibility for anything. You can't build anything.
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>>65449020
>take responsibility for someone else's mistakes
ok, schizo
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>>65449023
Not turning back immigrants is literally your mistake
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>>65449020
>healthcare is ozempic subsidiary
they must be putting something in your food, you can't get that dumb naturally, there's no way
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>>65449031
It's called hyperbole. Leftists are truly joyless people
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>>65449012
>we get raped 50% more than them
>clearly they should learn from us
very true saar
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>>65449026
what about not starting wars you cannot win instead? ever thought of that option? have you... ahem, ask for accountability from your leaders? i thought the US is a democracy where "we the people" and so on? cattle with guns, all of you
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Why is the thread going off-topic about dumb shit? Take yer bitchin elsewhere
>>65448546
>3 days
Fortify and hole up. 3 days isn't very long. If you wanna fuck with the angry mob/police and live in a place where there are high rises everywhere, you can drop molotovs on them for shits and giggles
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>>65448984
Imagine making bragging about the amount of vacation time you get when you’re countries have shit militaries, no space tech, month long wait times for healthcare, no air conditioning, ~35-45% wage suppression with corpo and VAT taxes, shoving muslims into your limited housing to pump GDP figures. Yeah bro consult the image above >>65448808.
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>>65449037
Guns stop crimes
>>65449041
Yeah the US government shouldn't do a lot of things. Why can't you admit that your government shouldn't welcome millions with open arms?
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>>65448546
literally nothing
im not a zogbot pig, so I have 0 worries besides getting a few jerry cans of gasoline because every gas station in the area is about to be trashed and inoperable for a month
>t. live in mpls
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>>65449041
Yeahhhh how’s that Ukraine war going?
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>>65449050
>imagine learning about the world from internet memes
none of what you typed is correct in any way, but I'm afraid i cant prove it because there's no official sources that show information as greentext and reaction images
>>65449053
ah the US government, that the US population has no control over, because it's how freedom and democracy works!
good job, bozo
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>>65449050
>shit militaries
worse than the US sure but still better than pretty much everyone else
>no space tech
Europe has is one of the 4 notable space programs
>month long waiting times
that's the bongs and leafs, the life expectancy in the EU is 5 years higher than in the US
>no air conditioning
why would you need it in most of Europe? do you need aircon in Maine?
>wage suppression
>VAT
lol
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>>65449069
Why can't you admit that you shouldn't let millions of immigrants in at once?
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>>65449053
>guns stop crimes
>the US still has more crime than Europe
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>>65449067
hard, but that was expected having in mind the US guaranteed its integrity in the 90's
lessons have been learned, but Europe have gone through worse
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I miss /k/
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>>65449076
because we didn't let millios of immigrants at once?
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>>65449083
>there haven't been /int/ slapfights from the very beginning
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>>65449083
It's long gone...
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>>65449077
Yeah we have gangs here. There would be more crime without guns
>>65449084
you're just denying basic reality at this point. Go back to re**it where you came from. You lost
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>>65449090
The age of cheap surplus + cheap spam cans are also long gone...
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>>65449092
>look we are more violent, have more browns, blacks and rapes
>but the thing you should really be concerned about is how we would be more violent, have more browns, blacks and rapes if we didn't have guns
very true, very worrying but I don't need you hallucinating crime or immigration stats to want more gun right, I want more gun right because guns are fun and the freedom to own them should be a human right
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>>65449089
/k/ is way older than /int/, dummy.
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>>65449102
ok but your crime has skyrocketed compared to 2000 and it's by your own politicians that don't fear the populace. Too bad so sad
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>>65449092
I don't have start, but you sure can back up your claims with some?
Europe is a continent of over 500 million people after all, and i can speak about by 7 million people country where i lately see Ukrainians which I don't mind
oh and my cardiologist is syrian but he lives here since the 90's or something
so yeah, reality as usually is far from what you learn about the world from image boards and green texts
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>>65449115
90s immigrants are people that immigrated because they wanted to integrate and actually have a better life for themselves. Current immigrants are people that hate you and hate your way of life. You don't understand that there are only stats and studies for a small subset of questions. You can look up crime differences between 2000 and 2025 for the major european nations. I won't do it for you
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>>65449109
nigger homicide rates are down 75% since 2000 and so are nearly all crimes
you live in a lalaland where a few headlines determine reality for you
you are no better than some smug European urbanite that thinks the KKK is a major political force in the US because they skimmed a headline in the guardian or vox
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>>65449124
ok, i will look it up for you then:
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Crime_statistics
according to the stats, the crime rate have dropped, nice way to play yourself out by quoting greentexts from 4chan
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>>65449083
>>65449090
This place is mostly /pol/ tards who got psyop'd by Steve Bannon into being alt-right. It's sad.
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>>65449287
>alt-right
Go back to your discord.
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>>65449297
I've been here longer than you. You got duped to support a pedophile. The left wing of this country is full of whiney fags who hate white people. They're just as annoying.
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>>65449438
Which pedophile would that be? I don't recall mentioning anyone but you. Keep your deranged bullshit to /pol/ if you don't want to talk /k/
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>>65448546
Get in the car and drive 360 degrees away lol
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>>65449074
>why would you need it in most of Europe? do you need aircon in Maine?
yes you stupid fuck. literally every single household has it there
>t. lived in maine for 33 years
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>>65449447
Uh huh, so what was the whole "go back to discord" thing an implication of? Because it sounds like you're trying to weasel out of it.
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>>65449533
Who the fuck still talks about muh alt right other than bunkerchan weirdos? I haven't heard that term in actual years.
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>>65448546
buy 10 nuggets
5 spam cans
spend the rest on beer
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Old /k/ was so much better, we need to bring it back
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>>65448753
>Europe
>kill the neighbor
>looks at Ukraine
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>65448857
>believes this
Holy propaganda.
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>>65449544
the hell is bunkerchan?
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>>65450233
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=bunkerchan
Hi.
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>>65450216
wanna pull median hospitalisation prices US vs. EU, or you will tuck your tail between your legs and leave like the rest of the morons before you?
untravelled, uncultured, undereducated peasants
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>>65450483
as yourofag that's lived in the US medical debt and treatment cost is very misunderstood.
it cost a fuck ton because your insurance will cover it
if they don't or you don't have insurance then bankruptcy courts are very lenient on people with medical debt
but it often doesn't even get that far the hospitals will often just write off outstanding medical debt to balance their books in oder to avoid paying taxes
it isn't meant to have a safety net but it in many ways works like one
on the other hand there's also people falling trough the gaps in the varius European systems
people that don't have a fixed adres, people that aren't good with paperwork, people that keep putting getting medical help of, ect.
in fact most of the people that end up falling trough the cracks in the US would also have a high risk of falling trough the cracks in Europe

that being said I'm never gonna mis having to check if a doctor is in coverage for my plan or having to call my insurer half a dozen times to get them to cover my bills because there's a é in my name and they don't have it on their keyboard or some other dumb shit
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I really should take pictures of the cool kits I made for this.
Radio
Matching camo
Med kit
Electrolyte pack
Canteen
Goggles
Ammo and mags in pouch
Belt
Plate carrier and plates
Helmet
Rubber boots
Iodine, alcohol, coffee in bottles that fit in grande pockets
All fits in a backpack

Made 8 matching bags
Sewed the plate carriers myself
Good source for matching bulk surplus
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/
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>>65448546
As long as everyone has 5.56 or 308 SBRs between 11.5 and 13 inches with modern bonded law enforcement ammo from Speer or Federal designed to penetrate automobiles then you’ll be fine. Spend the rest of your money on survival equipment like generators, fire extinguishers, and other supplies.
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>no no no we don't NEED guns Europe is a paradise there are no rapefugees just ignore your lying eyes
Europoors, everyone.
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>>65448923
They live shitty commie lives with no guns and ethnic replacement touted as the highest good.
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>>65448959
Per. Capita.
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>>65448984
>Teached me
Found the fugee.
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>>65449041
Of course it's some seething goatfucker lmao
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>>65450885
see >>65448921 it's already per capita
besides, the US population is smaller than the EU's so if it was in absolute number it would be an even bigger diffrence
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>>65448546

Fucking boot licker salivating about the prospect of killing his fellow countrymen in defence of the massive faggot Trump, his retarded kids, and the various other bloodsuckers that are destroying your democracy. The USA as you and all your ancestors knew it is fucked, and all your pathetic chest thumping bullshit about freedom and wealth (neither of which you have, OP) will amount to the sum total of nothing when it unravels. Selling out your own future for the likes and lolz. Faggot
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>>65448546
This isn't really complicated.

A bunch of gayr-15s, plates and plate carriers, radios, and a couple cheap thermals for scanning. A couple drones for scouting might be worthwhile too. After that it's all going to ammo and snacks.
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>>65448546
Let’s assume we have an 8 man squad. 5 normal ARs, one AR set up as a quasi-SAW with FRT, one Remington 700, and one shotgun should cover most applications.

>>65448753
I can tell you’re a dutchoid. Go back.
>>>/int/nederdraad
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>>65450974
Noguns.

>>65450905
The ones the EU's leaders admit, seething Mohammedan.
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>>65450974
Commies are not our countrymen. Why would they be?
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>>65450974
>the prospect of killing his fellow countrymen in defence of the massive faggot Trump
I despise Trump but also despise leftists, zionists, ziggers, capitalists, anti-environmentalists, communists, anti-White freaks.
>The USA as you and all your ancestors knew it is fucked
has been since post WWI

>>65451089
TRVKE

>>65448546
>you're in a city that has a lot of tension between groups and the police
Been there during the BLM riots
> What kind of gear do you pick, preparing for 2-3 days of unrest

canned food, water, blankets, first aid stuff, a few guns they have, ammo, comms , a few generators, batteries , a few tarps.

considering this board is filled with war tourists, Redditors, and zionists this thread will be banned soon

>>65448581
this too
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>>65450773
What plates are you rolling for your crew?
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>>65448546
Why don't we just get the fuck out? With $10-15k we can go somewhere for a month or two and rent a little airb&b for 8-10 people maybe a quiet cabin in the woods, we can bring a couple ounces of weed and buy groceries to make things like sandwiches and stuff and then when we get back into town after the little anqueefas are done throwing their annual fit and the insurance adjusters get word of all your damaged property and have to replace it you'll have a vacation and you won't have to shoot anybody.
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>>65451085
>I can't be wrong reality must be a lie
you can just google it yourself, nothing is stopping you from stepping out of your information bubble
>>65451004
his English it to good to be Dutch
he's from some one of the slav countries
if him saying his country has 7 million inhabitants that would mean he's bulgarian or a s*rb
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>>65451117
Nice projection but you remain a seething shill assigned to /k/ because your masters at whatever NGO employs you find you annoying even by commie standards and have assigned you the Sisyphean task of convincing gun owners to abandon freedom. You have no rebuttal to the fact that the EU covers up what rapefugees do, because you are by nature inferior to Americans.
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>>65451207
Bodied that freak.
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>>65451207
Destroyed that thirdie so hard his ancestors felt it.
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>>65451207
so true, I'm sitting here in my yourapoorian cuckhold cell as my wife gets mandatory raped, thank God I'm forbidden from own deadly Trayvon Martin blasters
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>>65451299
having a high violent crime rate and being free with your people is better than being in a domesticated safteyism nation that worships WAHMANS rights
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>>65451310
oh wait you are the same /pol/ tard that derailed that other tread. how about you just go and fuck off to your containment shithole
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>>65451325
>When all else fails, screech about /pol/
Those are your allies, lil brown commie.
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>>65451325
I have not been on /pol/ since 2016, I only go on /tg/ lit/ k/, my poi nt is correct and you are wrong, Europe and its peak for 1000+ years had a much more violent honour bound culture where violence was the norm and it was good, keep coping if your society is based of safety and domesticated by liberal-capitalism you will be destroyed

>>65451350
there is this variety of Euro poster who are huge pussies and want to live in some sterilized safety world where everyone is just a feminist bureaucrat who lives in this weird bubble or comfort and leisure, I may have tons of problems with fellow Americans as a lot sadly are ZOG slaves but there is this sliver of freedom and independence in their spirit and will
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>>65451409
Favorite Space Marine Chapter?
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>>65451429
don't really like 40k desu, I prefer Warhammer fantasy that isn't age of Sigmar, for Sci-Fi I like Star Wars EU much more.

I played some 40k growing up and I think I like the grey knights or chameleons

for Warhammer fantasy I always go with dwarves or empire, sometimes nurgle tho
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>>65451437
Based tastes honestly.
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>>65451299
>trayvon martin
Your bait is years out of date, EurAnon. Floyd has been the new hotness for 6 years now
Is the internet seriously that slow in Bulgaria?
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>>65451442
maybe ogre kingdoms too,I respect those big boys. Sadly Total war Warhammer devs are jews and to buy everything on steam with the packs its 300$...
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>>65451449
The worst thing a European can imagine is to be a European. Telling.
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>>65448857
What kind of shit insurance do you have that you're bankrupt after a single hospital visit? Sure even when covered it can be a big hit when you get your spa bill, but this arrogant and ignorant idea yuroserfs have that Americans have no health coverage because the government doesn't provide it is just ignorance.
Pro-tip: the government is trash at everything and the idea that the State should act like the benevolent parent of Society is fucking stupid because the State is a derivation (child) of Society at large, not the other way around. Non-humans who are still in perpetual serfdom can not wrap their heads around this.
>>65448885
Kill yourself, moron.
>>65448902
As arrogant and willfully ignorant as Americans are in general, they truly have nothing on yuroserfs.
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>>65449003
Every shit in the realm of geopolitics is a result of the French and British in 1919.
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>>65451526
They wouldn’t have the opportunity to do so if the Serbs didn’t start ww1, so it’s actually Serbia’s fault
Clinton should have bombed them harder I say
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>>65451681
its been 30 years get over it, I don't really care for serbs because of their ziggerdom , but if anyone should be bombed its Israel and migrant boats.

the idea of bombing serbs is the same impotent revenge fantasy of attacking the south even tho its been 160 years
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>>65448546
Literally nothing changes. I keep the same handgun in my nightstand as usual, I keep working my remote job, I just don't leave the house for a few days.
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>>65448546

The guy who said radios are important is correct. Even if you don't have enough guns for everyone, you can respond quickly if people keep their radios on.

Also you can listen to your local ham repeater for info. Police scanners might be useful too.

For 3 days, people aren't going to be fighting within the group over food. Even normies have that much stocked.

You aren't going to be doing much training other than dry fire in the suburbs. Get the trained people the weapons they are good with. A couple AR-15s would be good, especially one that's scoped, but it depends on the neighborhood layout.

Everyone else needs simple stuff, like a basic shotgun with a red dot. Looters and rioters don't like to be shot at, even once.

Barriers are needed at main neighborhood entrances. Realistically sandbags are probably the cheapest solution, although Czech hedgehogs would be cool.

Getting everyone in the neighborhood on the same page is important. Even if they aren't really helping, you need to make sure they aren't messing up your security plan.

Pay attention to what the cops or national guard is doing so that you know when the situation is back to normal. You don't want an armed confrontation with the police.

Also I would try to get some smoke grenades or less lethal options. If you kill anyone, the courts will try you after things go back to normal. Scaring people away is best. To that end, might want to have some bayonets to put on those rifles.
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>>65448546
Maybe it's just a personal perference but I've thought for awhile that carbines in 9mm like the M&P FPC and KelTec's SUB-2000 would make for good urban defense "militia" weapons. It's something you can display as a deterrent without overdoing it on the firepower and price.

Carbines were historically used for cavalry and light infantry.
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>>65452091
Not cheaper than a PSA AR15 and worse in every way.
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>>65452143
This. PCCs are terminally weak AF versus a rifle and can't negotiate serious body armor.
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>>65452171
I see what you're saying but are we going up against people equipped with body armor and rifles?
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>>65452186
How do you know you aren't? Why leave the capability on the table by gimping yourself with a PCC.
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>>65448546
Eurofaggotry aside, the options are thus:

>SHTF realistically - Highly unlikely that unrest will visit my quiet affluent white neighborhood, but a few fit white guys standing around in kit would be a convincing argument to be not a white man elsewhere. At worst let a few bursts go, their dicks WILL shrink.

>Fantasy no-more-cops/courts/gov't-for-years-SHTF - Move to secure as many resources as quickly as possible, violence of action is absolutely crucial. Water, gas, food, medicine, Make it clear you're in charge immediately, folks who play ball are in, those who don't are dead. Kill anyone darker than a paper bag and every white woman with more than pierced ears, kill anyone who disagrees with that. Round up the women, pick the prettiest one and beat her to death in front of the others. They'll figure out what's up REAL quick. People need to be reacquainted with the concept of consequences and those who have never in their lives even been truly uncomfortable are the ones who respond best to brutality.
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>>65448603
>In today's day in age
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>>65451100
Mix
_Mostly those surplus Italian UHMWPE
SportmanGuide 40$ each
_Some UHMWPE soft lvl3
Botach ~ 30$
_Few Steelies
DownRange Industires and Sparten
DRI ~50$ Spartan way to much


Got a good laff strapping the extra large helmet to the steel bag and the small helmet to the soft lvl3.
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>>65452836
Oh it's you, we talked about your... eclectic collection of budget plates before. I'm building up my own at the moment, but it's Protech, Hesco, and Gilliam with some Ceradyne.
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>>65448877
That’s a very complicated answer anon. Not trying to be rude but really it’s a pretty complicated subject dependent on a ton of variables like power output, environment and even the radios you have. If you want to have an idea study for your ham license. It’s good for the knowledge.
If you don’t (I don’t blame you) just get baofeng ham radios. Rule of thumb is that handhelds without any repeaters are good for “line of sight” comms so most reasonable distances without barriers. You will drop off pretty good in urban, hilly or forested areas. To give you a reference I live in suburban america and I can reach my buddy about 1.5 air miles away from my house only when I am standing outside. Meanwhile these little FRS radios I had struggle to get 300 yards down the street because of short antenna and minimal power output. Once you have a few of them you can get a repeater box and program them for the proper offsets. It’s not that hard with chirp. But imo not needed, how often are you going to be more than a mile away from your team in this hypothetical
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>>65452889
GMRS radios are cucked too
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Buy some spike strips for access control
https://surplus.botach.com/magnumspike-law-enforcement-tire-deflation-spike-strip-system-w-carry-case-accessories-police-trade/?
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>>65448546
hand out mosin 91/30s to the bros with the little leather belt pouch ammo carriers to hold 30 rds on clips
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>>65448768
>your whole country is created by emigrants
productive immigrants not haitians and somalians
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>>65448716
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>>65456285
I just wanted a Gadsden holster...
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>>65449050
>Being American "rich" means:
>his entire personality revolves around the shit he's bought (shallow and materialistic)
>lives in a concrete cul-de-sac in a mass produced McMansion next to thousands identical mass produced McMansions
>only time he communicates with another human is when he threatens to shoot his neighbour for parking his cybertruck too close to his dead lawn
>larps as middle-class is actually just a serf
>doesn't have basic amenities (like drinkable tap water) copes by claiming that he doesn't need it because he's "free" (you have 2 parties to vote for and they both get on their knees for Israel you're not free, buddy)
>spyware in literally every consumer product he "owns" (until the company he bought it from arbitrarily decides that he doesn't anymore)
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>>65456417
>>doesn't have basic amenities (like drinkable tap water)
Projection. notice how Serbia is not blue
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>>65456455
An American made that picture and like a good little sheep you believe it without question.
Drink your lead infested water, fool. I dare you.
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>>65456464
Not a problem. My town’s pipes were replaced with lead free ones decades ago. I’m sure they’d get to yours but they’re probably surrounded by 30 year old unexploded ordnance
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>>65456455
Shit ain't safe to drink down under.
I get water by the bucket load and purify it over a campfire because of how shit our tap water is.
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>>65456464
I know you're a retard but the United States is a federated nation made up of 50 polities, full of dozens of counties and hundreds of cities each that have their own water systems. And a lot of areas became developed long after lead pipes stopped being used.



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