This should become the "new normal," not just for gulf states, but for critical infrastructure globally.Succinctly, if it's worth surrounding with a wall (especially one with vehicle barriers), then it's worth encasing in a drone cage, as drones now alter the calculus of what it means to wall-in something, since the height required is now the entirety of its surface area
>>65449214Also, anything that can be buried, ought to be buried.
>>65449214How, exactly, does this help against EFPs?
>>65449266That's an issue, especially because they don't lose explosive force quickly over short distances (unlike shaped charges).
>>65449214Yes probably should. Vast majority of our critical infrastructure has zero protection, as demonstrated with water works and sewer just last month (story was way under reported and involved dozens of states, and not just water works). After a major blackout in 2003 and dozens of attacks on substations over the years the protection is still mall cop tier at best. Grid has been grown to try to meet demand but will realistically never been rugged enough to endure a serious attack.
>>65449266Distance
>>65449214Amusing, because a few days back someone posted that same image claiming it was in Iran.
>>65449403There's not nearly enough distance between the cope cage and the storage tank to matter to an EFP.
>>65449214It only helps against a specific type of drones. It also doesn't help against missiles at all, which I believe Iran still has a shit ton of.
>>65449414If Iran had that many missiles they wouldn't be relying so heavily on one way attack drones, especially not now that interceptor stocks are supposedly depleted
>>65449404There's literally articles and videos (admitteldy, mostly from Indian sources) showing it in the UAE.
>>65449369if glowies were actually half-competent they'd use what little expertise (convicted) accelerationists might have to both harden own infrastructure and recruit and instruct people of the enemies' in return for shorter sentences
>>65449413Depends on the dimensions of the EFP. It emplaces a constraint on the size of munitions you need to worry about leaking.
>>654492141. Have carrier drone carry ground drone2. Drop ground drone close to building3. Ground drone hides until someone opens a door4. Ground drone rushes in5. Kaboooom!
>>65449510>Depends on the dimensions of the EFP.The EFP only needs to travel a few dozen yards through the air and a few mm through unhardened steel. The vaporization of the oil from the penetrator will turn the hole into a rupture, and the heat of the fire will do the rest. Not every EFP will cause the right combination of circumstances to destroy a tank, but even one tank going up will put the entire tank farm at risk unless they're very spaced out.
>>65449430>implying they don't actually want thisPeople talk a good game, but when you haven't eaten in a week and your children haven't for 3 days all that talk of "freedom" and "civil rights" goes right out the window.
>>65449266if your enemy is reduced to using EFP warheads then you've already won
>>65450337>you've already wonWhy?
this is just the bare minimum and it's retardedgo just one tiny step further and cover it with fabricor a net if you're worried about fumes
>>65449214>This should become the "new normal," not just for gulf states, but for critical infrastructure globally.For old structures.New build, just build everything in a deep tunnels, see Iranian underground missiles cities, even Americans can't bomb them.
>>65449214That's size of the cage actually can stop drones warheads.
>>65449214To really passivate hydrocarbon storage lined ponds with air displacement fire suppression (foam or gas) - there is definitely a point at which conventional strikes become worth less than the result. Underground would be the ultimate but liners a step.
>>65450337Bruh probably every russian shasneed and Ukrainian FP1 or whatever has at least one in the nose. I bet they have even more smaller ones on the sides, because why wouldn't you?
>>65450339Triumph of hope over reality
>>65449240This also applies to you.
>>65449430Who are you talking about? Keep your weird shit away from me and my posts.
>>65449369that's because americans think their enemies will never set foot on their soil. nazis or japs never managed to move to mainland america, so why worry about it?
>>65449214why don't we just kill all sand niggers and ex-soviet vermin? then we wouldn't have anyone to need protection from.
>>654492145k worth of drones and you create a hole for the big one
>>65450339it's much less destructive than HE/HEAT. the damage would probably be reduced to having a hole punched into the tank, which is much less destructive.
>/k/ in 2022LOL look at those stupid ziggers putting cages on top of their tanks>/k/ in 2026OMFG WE NEED TO PUT CAGES ON EVERY OIL REFINERY IN THE MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!
>>65452047Did the cope cages work?
>>65452047>>/k/ in 2022nafo trannies only infested the site in force a year later. 4chan was still allowing "pro russia" ads early on.
>>65452110Is this board finally free of the trannitors then? I assumed they still just delete anything remotely pro-russian on site. Just browsing the popular threads rn since the site is dead
>>65452047The cages were supposed to stop Javelins.They didn't.
>>65452047>OMFG WE NEED TO PUT CAGES ON EVERY OIL REFINERY IN THE MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!I started this thread to suggest this should be done here, in the US, along with burying things.If something is important enough to wall or gate-in, then in 2026, it ought to be encased in some kind of anti-drone cage, or at least a net.Basically the barrier only extending high enough to impede ground-level humans (or vehicles) is grossly insufficientWe can't leave this stuff completely vulnerable to any whackjob with access to a drone and thermite .
>>65449214>but for critical infrastructure globally.Sounds good, let's surround all the electric substations with metal cages.
>>65452161>your face when your cock is deemed critical infrastructure
>>65452110>>65452116Never stop seething, /leftypol/. The cope cages were supposed to stop Javelins and NLAWs.
>>65449240Beneath ground you risk being flooded, dig into the side of a mountain.Caveman beats moleman every day of the week.Wait, isn't that what they are doing in Iran?
>>65449214In russia your company is now sto.. confiscated by the state if you lack in drone protection and are being attacked (i.e. refineries, ozone, dingleberries).
>>65452047Did Iranians strike oil facilities with Javelin ?
>>65449414what if you send two drones at the same angle
>>65449369Is it any wonder why they dont want this to be big news? Same thing in my country, any country really. Expect massive regulations against drones soon- or price increases similar to RAM.
>>65449266Fixed installations are less weight-limited than a tank.They could install double walls and fill the space with foam concrete or water or whatever works and is cheap.
>>65453244They could do a lot of things. But they haven't. They've built cages of copeitude.
>>65453326What I meant there's plenty of room under the cage that they could install additional layers later.Another thing that comes to mind, if the drone gets caught in the cage there's at least some change that the jet will miss its target. Together with >>65452027 there's some benefit to it. If it's cheap enough to install that might be worth it, even if it's not a solid (heh) defense.
>>65453474>if the drone gets caught in the cage there's at least some change that the jet will miss its targetand be less effective since it is detonating at possibly sub-optimal stand-off range; the jet may disperse moreor it may miss the tank entirely, which is why I said they should>go just one tiny step further and cover it with fabricto increase the chances of missing
>>65450414You could with a bunker buster followed up by a nuclear bomb. But that takes a will no modern day leader has. Not even the faggots that /pol/ worships.
>>65449266I need to know first if you understand how efp works.
Hey, dumbfucks, it's not economically viable to harden every civilian piece of infrastructure to every military threat. A PGM will break through that just as easily, dronefags.
>>65454473How many militaries in the region can afford PGMs to spam?
>>65454531The United States of America.
>>65454554>Press X to doubt
>>65449337an EFP IS a shaped charge Jamal.
>>65450337every HEAT round leaving an RPG or tank or ATGM is an EFP Laqueefa.
>>65450415but what about the other 200 drones enroute to make the hole larger Pvt TikTok? wow so you increased the cost to destroy ONE priority target. congratz to you I guess. Now how ya gonna refuel all those burning planes on the runway?
>>65449214bet you can't do this to a power substation
I literally don't care if Arabs get hit. In fact I applauded it. Creating more hyperinflation, death, crisis, and starvation in Iran is worth it.
