Pest control edition, .45 ACP enough for a mouse?Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikShooting challenge for the month of August (hg-08-2026)https://files.catbox.moe/brwglb.pdfPrevious: >>65446224
The energy of the .45 cooks the mouse
>>65451357Post more pests, like beavers
>>65451357Nah, 45 is too anemic. That's what lost us vietnam and korea.
Ordered a trigger parts kit to fit to my Tisas. I wasn't a fan of the hammer or trigger face so decided it was a good opportunity to learn something new. These parts + an Ed brown solid trigger.What am I in for? Any tips?I have previously installed and fit a new mainspring housing, and polished a feed ramp on a Kimber TLE II that I ended up selling.
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>>65451411I feel like Korea was more of a Tie, leaning WinPrimary objective of protecting South Korea from invasion: SuccessSecondary objective of uniting all Korea under democratic, NATO-friendly rule: Failure
>>65451414You bought a prefit kit where the hammer and sear are matched then you’re going to replace the hammer. It should be fine, Ed brown should be in spec
>>65451426the second half of korea post-chosin was a precursor to vietnam, a prediction that retards in air conditioned rooms in washington would handcuff their generals to prevent them from achieving the primary objectivethey should have let MacArthur carpet the Yalu with nukes>uh well it's good enough to waste thousands of american lives on, but let's not get too hasty, do we actually wanna WIN this thing?
I bought a nomad 9x frame so I could use regular Glock mags with my 19x upper but I have enough money into this I want to just turn it into an overly expensive range piece, what is a fancy slide I can go with from a decent company? I really know nothing about any of the higher end slide makers
>>65451448MacArthur is the fucking cocksucking retard that got all those men killed, just like in the Batan Death March. He should have been court martialed for incompetence.Intelligence reports on the ground KNEW of an impeding Chinese attack. They have already captured Chinese soldiers prior to the attacks. North Korean civilians were telling US soldiers and marines that there were Chinese soldiers in NK.
>>65451472>MacArthur is the fucking cocksucking retard that got all those men killedyou're thinking of Ned Almond who was an absolute retard and regularly ignored just about everything about the situation other than the direction he was supposed to be telling his marines to go
>>65451458If they made this with a comp I would have bought one
>>65451502
First the omega got discontinued without me noticing until 6 months ago and now I have to panic buy a 75BD.
>>65451517It existing≠they made thisI'm not into obliterating my warranty on day 0 not to mention altering locking geometry to who knows what long term effect
>>65451539It’s a P220 style barrel, the locking geometry is on the hood
>>65451528They discontinued both the rami and the 97b on me. I'm just not going to pay the prices people want for those.
>>65451583Half of it is. Do you think the front is just free floated?
>>65451607
I want it so baaaaadBut I have to buy a wildly overpriced house instead and need to keep cash for repairs and moving and shiet
>>65451607>>65451613There's typically a hump on 19/2011 bushingless barrels right there for just that purpose. Guess where the port is cut?
>>65451502I don't understand why you'd even want it with a comp. It's a long full, size, long slide with a full length lower in 9mm.Even the compact has minimal recoil.
>>65451632You don't understand why someone would want less recoil, full stop? I don't think then that I could explain in a satisfactory wayYeah the DWX does have minimal recoil. But what if it had less than minimal recoil?
>>65451639I just don't like comps in general I guess, more flash and concussion for very little benefit. I've never really been convinced that standard pressure 9mm even pushes enough gas through a comp to really do anything.
9mm niggas trying to get negative recoil
>>65451414It's pretty shrimple. Go slow, have steady hands so you don't idiot scratch your frame while punching pins out.>t. idiot scratched my CMP Tisas while punching pins out
>>65451650If you don't have scratches on your own guns are you even doing it right?
Do you think one could still larp as a cowboy with a double action S&W .38?I mean I know .45 would be more accurate but I just don’t like .45
>>65451607>>65451613>>65451631Now in a gun that's been designed for a chunk port, that locking area is extended to where the port isn't (picture related). Is that the case with the DWX? I don't know, I've not looked at the inside of the slide. But the barrel locking surface has definitely not been extended to mate with it if it were>>65451647Yeah they're certainly annoying indoors, and standing next to them is pretty bad. But outdoors they're great
Rate the foam job
Anyone do bullseye shooting? I want an air pistol but I am unsure of what is a decent one to get. I know the gucci olympic ones would be good, but I don't know if I wanna drop like $2k+ on one just starting out, plus I am left handed and I am gonna have to get new grips made which is further gonna drive the price up. I was trying to find one on the second hand market but they seem fairly rare as well.
How good at shooting should I be before I try entering a match? I've never done any kind of running and gunning before.
>>65451881Open Cell Foam/10Ur fuked m8
>>65451888Confident in being able to follow all safety rules and can group out to 25 yards. If your 25 yard target does not have any sort of grouping, or you’re unable to hit a B8C target at 25 - choose which event you go to wisely as some matches have targets beyond 25 yards while others 15 is the max. The purpose of matches and competitions is to get better, you’ll quickly see things you need to improve on as long as you’re not still working on the basics. There are a few organizations that are geared towards more casual and practical shooting versus it as an actual sport.
>>65451888realistically you should just be familiar enough with guns to:>not break the 180 while moving>not break the 180 while reloading>be able to safely load and holster>be able to safely unload and show clear>put rounds somewhere on an IPSC target at 10 yards>follow the four rules of gun safety at all timesthat's like the bare minimum. The biggest thing that will fuck your day up is getting DQ'ed for an ND or a 180 violation so just pick a direction in your house and spend an entire day pointing a finger gun in that direction whenever you do anything. Nobody at most matches gives a shit if you make zero hits and par out every stage, the only thing that will actually bother people is safety violations.
>>65451888>>65451902i should mention that unless otherwise stated somewhere on a website or in practiscore, assume it's a cold range match and show up with a cased/bagged firearm and separate boxed/cased/bagged ammo. Some matches/match directors are insanely anal about "only handle your empty firearm while uncasing at the designated safe table next to the start position surrounded by a berm" and others are cool and will let you show up holstered and just load during load and make ready.
>>65451888Skill isn't really important, but you need to be safe and competent in all operations of your firearm of choice.>>65451902This.
>>65451458DammitMy LGS has a DWX for a great deal and I'm very tempted. How much did you pay?
>>65451888checkedI haven't competed yet, but everything I'm reading says to just do it. They all mention people saying, "I'll do a competition after I train more," and then they never do.
>>65452031competitions legitimately give you a reason to train other than "I may at some time in the future have a small change that i'll need to shoot a crackhead" which is never a good motivatora fat 50yo dude cleaning your ass up by like 20 seconds despite him wheezing through a stage will definitely give you motivation to trainif you can move safely with a gun and follow directions you should absolutely go to a match, it doesn't have to be some goofy men in lycra with fishing vests match either, there are outlaw/fun matches all over practiscore
>>65451902That 180 shit is gay as fuck and it's one of the reasons USPSA is so hated.
>>65452040>a fat 50yo dude cleaning your ass up by like 20 seconds despite him wheezing through a stage will definitely give you motivation to trainlmao true
What is this? It looks like an N frame, but it's chambered in .500.
I forgot I need a heat gun or soldering iron to remove the red Loctite off the cogger mount to actually put it on my AR, so it'll have fun on my now lightless Scorpion as that's somehow a pistol and I've never posted it here before. I'll unfortunately need the smaller Scout 340 or whatever to put on it now that my 640 lives on the AR.
I've noticed a lot more discussion about revolvers lately.Are revolvers coming back, for some reason?
>>65451357I got this little pouch and it's been really handy yesterday and today. Brought 100 rounds and some mags both days and that was practically all I needed. A glove hook and something to hold a roll of tape would do it. Can also put my rangefinder in it for rifle days.
>>65452052first time the chins rotated an image not on mobile>>65452055A lot of it might be me. I picked up an M9 recently and took it to the range with my Model 29, and I remembered how much I like shooting revolvers.
>>65452059That's a good lookin' pouch
>>65452063It's got this velcro bit so it goes on over my belt. Don't have to take it off or anything.
>>65452068i like da colors
>>65452048>That 180 shit is gay as fuckhaving been an RO and getting flagged more than once, one time with a 1301 loaded with flitecontrol, not really in most cases. at most of my matches, if you break the 180, you've earned your dunce hat for the day. On a 360 bay? nah, stupid, but not a lot of ranges have a 360 bay or a shoothouse>it's one of the reasons USPSA is so hated.a lot of the complaints there have to do with stage design where they have a target at 175 of the 180 degrees just as bait for a reload or somethingit's not fun stage design and really should be stopped because it alienates a lot of people and isn't really safe in and of itself
>>65452063I just realized you can't see the brand or anything.
>>65452055I think it's less that revolvers are coming back, and more that people are burned out on minmaxxed larperating and coming back around on the idea of shooting purely as a skill to develop for skills sake and recreational shooting as a valid and pleasurable passtime as opposed to everything being in service of some imaginary life or death scenario.Which in turn, brings the niche served by revolvers in 2026 back into focus. A good full size revolver in 38/358 is a joy to shoot.
>>65452074>bucketbosshehe epic
>>65451888I just did one and I suck ass. -91 after 6 stages, wasn't even bottom 10% just go do it and have fun. Safety is more important than shooting skill.
>>65450863they are a niche gun for a specific purpose. the final last ditch backup to your backup. the size and weight means it costs nothing to carry so whats wrong with that? plus they can be used as a secondary on rural land for pest control when you dont want to use your defensive carry gun. i think they do what they are designed for very well. nobody is arguing it should be your go to war gun
>>65451900>>65451902>>65451920>>65452031>>65452097Thanks fellas I'll try to find a nearby match and just do it.If any of you compete, what do you compete in?
>>65452126> If any of you compete, what do you compete in?I’ve done USPSA, GPA, local 2-gun, 3-gun, FAST, steel challenge, and brutalityBy far the most fun are the 2G action, steel challenge, and FAST/brutality style matches, but that’s because I like larping and actually using all of my gear other than just a gunbeltI really wanna do a cowboy action match at some point, but don’t have a single action revolver in the budget for a while
>>65452126I've done USPSA and IDPA, but I want to do 2gun and brutality.
>>65451888Can you confidently 360 noscope? If not then you're not ready.
I love my GP100 and I don't care who knows!Any recommendations for an IWB holster for a 3" model though?
>>65452055There are advantages to them.They are less likely to jam/malfunction.When they do jam/malfunction, it's worse. It typically puts the gun out of operation until you can see a gunsmith. With a semi-auto, you typically just tap, rack, bang. But they are less likely to jam/malfunction.You can press them up against an attacker, fire, then do it again without worrying about a slide. Many self-defense encounters are at extreme short range. This also applies to defending yourself from a dog biting you.A shrouded double action only revolver is excessively simple, and safe. Just draw, point and shoot. No safety to worry about. The double action trigger is the safety. No hammer to get stuck on something while drawing. This is the simplest concealed carry pistol to draw and fire, and, when you're in a high-stress, life-and-death situation, simple is good.The primary drawback is the capacity. However, data shows that almost all self-defense scenarios are ended by 2-3 shots.They're simple, reliable and carry enough rounds for almost all encounters.For the most part, the revolver/semi auto battle comes down to if you prioritize simplicity/reliability or capacity. There's a good argument for prioritizing the former when 2-3 shots ends almost all scenarios.
>>65452219I think an undiscussed problem with revolvers is the modern ones have awful QC and the stock of old (good) ones are rapidly disappearing.
>>65452226They're mechanically complex. Semi-autos are certainly more suited for mass production.QC issues can obviously be mitigated, though, by choosing known reliable options and having gunsmithing skills or knowing a skilled gunsmith.
>>65452230>known reliable optionsRevolver writers, blogs, YouTubers etc have been talking about poor QC at Smith, Ruger and Olt for years. Considering the price of .38 to 9mm, it makes sense why the only people that shoot them are experienced gun owners and old guys (like me). I love wheelguns but I would never recommend them over other options.
>>65452145>FAST/brutality style matchesI wish there were more of these, it took me forever to find even a 2Gun match within a few hours of me, the brutalities are all across the country.
>>65452253Unfortunately unless you can find a gun club, it’s really difficult to set up that kind of match.Although I recently learned that a training center local to me is surprisingly cheap to run a match at, so I might be setting something up in the mid-Atlantic in the next year or so…
>>65451441is this the franken gun some anon made?
God I wish Kansas had outdoor ranges that didn't have retarded times or have everything be a fucking gun club
>>65452529This but CT
>>65452529I might go shooting tomorrow too but idk. Definitely once more before the weekend.
>>65452145Brutality is woke. It's for transgendered bipocs to put their skills to the test so they can bash the fasc and create queer liberation for the revolution.
>>65452559I only ever went to the east coast ones, everyone there was cool
>>65452565In what part of my post did I say they weren't cool?
>>65452559who is this
>>65452575All of it
What's everyone's favorite revolver
>>65452585The old timey ones but they suck balls to actually use with their loading gate bullshit and shitass sights
>>65452585That's tough. There are so many. I really want a bunch of old double actions.
My US made 92fs is finally starting to smooth out. Fresh out of the box is shot like dogshit, took about 1000 rounds but it is smooth now.
>>65452355Luckily the two local gun clubs to me don't require membership for matches, which is sick as hell. So I have a ton of options, including crazy stuff like night matches and things. But no brutality yet, I'm gonna ask around at the next 2 gun match and see if it's a thing or if there's discussion of it.
>>65452585It's blasphemy but I don't really care for revolvers, there's nothing wrong with them, they just don't interest me. Only the most fucked up revolvers do it for me.
>>65452508Yes >wilson combat elite professional .45 upper>JEM 2011 frame with .45 ACP feedramp >staccato C2 grip I bought off eBay
>>65452585I like my Colt Trooper
>>65452585Model 10
I have a gen 6 Glock 19, the best generation of Glock 19.>muh no it isn'tbetter than my Gen 3.
>>65452559That was Karl's agenda but he burned his final business partner, Russel Phagan (went on to found FAST after their split) and now Karl doesn't even have a seat at the board of his local gun club. He claims Brutality Matches are all his intellectual property but none of the people that run them associate with Karl. The actual shooting scene for leftists is whatever the John Brown Gun Club, Redneck Revolt or neo Black Panthers get up to which is usually basic introduction to firearms or shooting at trash during a LARP meetup.James Reeves of TFB TV is the only bridge Karl has left but I'm sure he'll manage to fuck that up like every other.
>>65452646I want one of these.
>>65452690Why is he making that pistol jeeted?
>>65452585S&W snubs chiefs special, model 38/60. I love snubnoses for some reason.
>>65452708It began as myth busting but eventually devolved into a meme test for supposed weapon reliability.
>>65452721Total enshitification.
>>65452585My GP100I've been meaning to send it off the Gemini for a work over. Should just do it before he gets old and dies.
>>65452775Hey, I have a WC GP100, maybe I should get this done>Three thousand fucking dollars and that's IF I supply the gunIf I'm dropping $3k, it's not to make an already great firearm look slightly prettier or have a slightly better trigger, wtf
>>65452796That's for his full retard package, which I honestly find pretty ugly, but he's fitting a mew barrel and doing the porting and all that. The $650 action job and the recrown/throat polish are the important parts. Getting the Ruger text removed, dehorned, and bead blasted is purely cosmetic. I don't believe it needs new sights, and it doesn't need PVD.This is what he quoted me in 2024. I had just bought the gun and 2k rounds of 357 so I didn't want to ship it off for 4+ months without having shot it much.>Time to complete as follows would be average of 16 weeks from receipt into my shop. If PVD plating is added, allow an additional 4 weeks.>1. Remove warning or Ruger text, $200.00 per side>2. Remove barrel, crown muzzle at 11 x 60 and polish throat @ 5 degrees, reinstall barrel at TDC 12:00, $350.00>3. Ultimate grade action tuning, $650.00, includes, everything. you will love this action.>4. Because we would be removing the barrel for crown and throat, I would suggest dehorning the frame to barrel juncture at a minimum, $200.00>5. Regarding the finish, PVD plating is a great finish and durable. It will run $750.00 on this weapon for one colortone. Raw glass bead blasted surface is a good uniform finish and is cost effective at $150.00. But raw SS is scratched easily, Glass bead blasted SS will show signs of wear over time with use, but it depends upon how rough a life it has. High polished finishes are terrible and will scratch with a soft rag, I do not recommend a high polished finish.>6. Finally, you did not address sight upgrades, but they are very important. If you do not already have the BCA RCSS rear sight you really need to get that installed at $149.95 and one of our custom machined steel Red or green fiber optic front sights @ $129.95 for this gun.
>>65451956$2446.30 back in 2025. I will admit…I am tempted to buy another to keep as an heirloom while I use this one as my camping/anti bear gun from now until the end of time. The cz grip profile, the 1911 trigger, the weight, fills me with extreme confidence. I won’t call it perfection, but its perfect for me.
>>65452112I just think they’re neat. Way I see it, if I get in a shootout with a theater shooter on a hot summer’s day. I either a) get heralded as a badass or b) serve as a warning to the rest of you for what not to do. Either way, I know I ain’t carrying anything other than this in the summer heat. So better than nothing.
>>65452690Karl is based tbqh
>>65452872How so?
>>65452874Based doesn't mean what you think it means.
>>65452874iykyk iydyd
>>65452876meant for >>65452872
>>65452884I'd explain how he's based but I'd be spam reported into nuggie hell
Anons, do any of you prefer 380 to 9mm? Idk if it’s just a perception of mine, but it’s just a cute little bullet. It seems fun.
>>65452585I'm really fond of the Nagant M1895 and it's retarded uncircumcised ammo.
>>654529319mm is the least cool looking cartridge.
>>654529319mm is a really good looking cartridge. It has a cool factor for sure
>>65452884No, not him. You. You don't know what it means. He's using the word correctly in a pejorative sense.
>>65452983oh okay me understand now
>>65452931I really like the roundness of 9mm Makarov.
>>65453012it's really hard to find good defensive loads for 9x18, most of what you get is just surplus steel case FMJ. is there a domestic manufacturer who makes some decent loads?
>>65453022If you find decent loads share with us
>>65453022Hornady and buffalo bore make some JHP Mak ammo. I don't want to spend over a dollar a round for the high quality stuff though.
>>65453039Looks like a good load
>>65453039adorable bullet
If I don’t feel comfortable carrying a loaded chamber for my Glock, should I just carry a revolver? Also- are there any IWB for the Gen 2 17?
>>65453012[in a thick russian accent]: it's ball ammo, da?
>>65452931.380 is a compromise.
>>65453068Дa, тoвapищ.
>>65453082Message received, it will be done comrade
>>65453084Этo хopoшo
I heard GWC invented a handgun oil from peanuts
>>65453062Just stop being a massive pussy and use a proper kydex holster
>9mm>cool
>>65453276>Cheap as shit to shoot>Effective self defense>Magazine technology out the ass>Cool ass boutique rounds>Light recoil you can enjoy until your death bed>Found literally everywhere>9x19 parabellum is an objectively badass nameLet me guess, you need more?
>>65453288I didn’t say it was bad or wasn’t functional. It’s just not cool.
>>65452828>>65452831Sorry I fell asleep.Interesting. I am very grateful for the information. I absolutely hate the lawyer writing so that and a trigger job seem to be in the cards. I'll keep it in mind, thank you!
>>65453293If 9mm was as niche as sneedmoor you'd probably cream over it, just like the soi sissies that jumped on .300 blackout's dick when it got popular. You hate 9mm because it's the standard everything is graded against
>>65453276I'm finding pccs pretty cool these days. Always a pcc and never an smg.
>>65453323Have you seen the 10mm hi-point bullpup conversion kit?
>>65453343No, but I want the APC10. The recoil system is interesting.
>>65453348I'm gonna check that out now
>>65453184Great episode
>>65453350It uses hydraulics to help with the recoil. The only issue is that it's $2000-2500+. The Swiss made a cool smg.
Anyone know of an AIWB holster for a PX4 compact+TLR-7? Having a bear of a time finding one. Might go with the Ronin leather but his lead times are nuts.
>>65453359I've been shilling ANR for a while, they make good holsters. Especially if you need a light+optics aiwb holster.
>>65453359Both ANR and Insane Kydex Creations make one. IKC actually offers the PX4 compact with over 60 different light attachments varieties. I have an ANR for my arex zero and an IKC for my FN. I've carried my FN 509c with tlr-1 in my IKC for about 4 years, but I'd reccomend the ANR due to IKC's insane lead times and ~30% higher prices. Both make great holsters so check out both options and see if one or the other is more your liking but that extra month of lead time IKC has is rough.
>>65453356That's no lie son, george washington carver invented 896 products from peanuts
>>65452534It's kind of roughIs there even anything here other than blue trail and the 2 state ones that are open 2 days a week?
>>65453443Hartford Gun Club. I’m on the shoreline though so it’s 660 a year for an hour drive.
>>65453445I'll have to check their hoursI use Delta and blue trail mainly because they're close
>>65453359JMCK
Has anyone tried the gold rds? I'm interested in how well gold contrasts against a background.
Why shouldn't I buy a CAA MCK EVO?>gives your Glock (or many other pistols) four points of contact and room to carry 90 rounds on the weapon for like $300>insertion/removal of your Glock are nearly instant>if you already have a Glock, it's $300 for a wicked PCC that takes dirt cheap ammo with an awesome front grip and a built-in flashlight>it can be suppressed if you change out your Glock's barrel
>>65453495Unfortunately I haven't seen anyone in these threads with one. If you care to wait awhile I'll go into work an hour early today for more overime and use that pay to order a gold dot ARO to report back. I have a pretty nasty astigmatism even with corrective lenses so if that's part of the draw for you my eyes could be a good analog. Without corrective lenses at night stop lights streak well below the street they sit above and bloom like crazy for me.I'll report back in 2 weeks with side by sides between the regular ARO, the gold dot ARO, and my holosun 507k to see if theres a glass quality, tint, or astigmatism benefit. Watch these threads if you care I guess
>>65453512I might buy the eps soon, I have the eps carry, but the eps has a bigger window. I was eyeing the AEMS pro one, maybe I'll get the ARO one day, but I want a pistol dot to carry - the in-and-out shooting has changed my opinions on rds for carry pistols. I get some smearing/distortion with the 6 moa red dot. I think the 2 moa dot won't be as bad, but i'm not sure. I'm interested in the gold just because its different and could help. I'm bit worried tho, if I get a 2 moa gold dot, I might not be able to acquire the dot if I really need it. I would have to force myself to train if I went that route. The 6 moa gold dot might be that goldilocks sight that is decent enough for ccw and is clear enough to make relatively distant shots if needed.
Talk me out of getting a 10mm, anons.
>>65453547I would never. What did you have in mind anon
>>65453481Oh shit I didn't see the separate light bearing holsters, thanks.
>>6545354710mm is funit's really depressing that more guns aren't chambered in it
>>65453547The hi point JXP 10 is $157 right now at Locked and Loaded. I think mine was $134 when I got it. Is it good? Fuuuuck no. But it may scratch the itch.Probably herasy in these threads but I really enjoyed the sig 320 10mm x10 I shot.
Burt, my LGS has a Magnum Research 99 for $450 with three mags. Should I grab?
>>65453495>>65453539Do they even exist outside Trijicon's dual-illuminated crap? They certainly don't from Holosun>>65453572MehI feel like you could get an actual P99 for that
>>65453547NoIf you ask to be talked out of something it's clearly because you really want to do it even though you're already aware of the potential downsidesBuy the guns you want, faggot
>>65453550>>65453557Well.. I recently discovered that I actually really like Glocks. Funny because I’ve anlways thought they were overrated, then I got a Glock 17 Gen 2 and thought “huh.. that’s pretty nice.” Anyway- since the Glock 20 gen 3 is close to and in some cases well OVER a grand now on gunbroker, I was thinking about finding a Glock 21 trade in and doing a conversion.
>>65453512>I have a pretty nasty astigmatism even with corrective lenses so if that's part of the draw for you my eyes could be a good analog.No, they couldn't be. It never ceases to amaze me how little people bother researching their own medical conditions. Astigmatisms are like fingerprints. No other astigmatism on earth is like yours. A dot looking good to you means absolutely NOTHING to the guy standing next to you with an astigmatism. If you have an astigmatism, you need to go look at any dot you're considering in person. You can't ask someone else with an astigmatism how the dot looks for them.
>>65453586But anon, one thing scares me. I have owned both the 45’s in your picture. I didn’t like either. Wouldn’t consider myself a 45 guy. I like .38 Special and 9mm though.
>>65453585>I feel like you could get an actual P99 for thatthe P99's been discontinued. P99 FINAL SOLUTIONs were going for $650 on the last run, good luck getting a black P99AS for less than $700 at this point unless it's clapped out to shit
>>65453588I get that everyones ligma is a different flavor but sweet is sweet sour is sour and astigmatism is astigmatism. Corrective lenses work for astigmatism because there are certain things that mitigate it. Green dots being better than red dots for astigmatism and lower brightness being better than higher brightness are some things that seem to be universal. I see no reason the gold dot couldn't likewise be a breakthrough technology for bad eye boys like me.
>>65453601>Green dots being better than red dots for astigmatism and lower brightness being better than higher brightness are some things that seem to be universal.No. There is no universal. I have a green dot, and it looks like shit compared to my red dots. There is literally no universal here, which is why you can't give anyone else red dot ligma advice.
Red dot bros, what MOA is your dot?
>>65453609
this gun has me turned around on beretta. I might grab a m9a4 next year. Probably the best handling semi auto I shot.
>>65453603>which is why you can't give anyone else red dot ligma advice.That's good to know, I'm sorry for repeating incorrect information. I've been told differently by literally everyone else. Regsrdless I just ordered that gold dot gen 2 ARO on my drive into work so these threads will be hearing from me.For any PA anons PSP is doing some kind of targeted enforcement, set your cruise control today I saw more cops on my way in to work then I've ever seen on a stretch of Pennsylvania road.
>>65453585I'm not sure what you mean, but Holosun has gold for their pistol dots. both in 2 and 6 moa
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>>65453618Green reflex works better with my ligmatism than my red holo, both are pretty fine outdoors but indoors the green is noticeably better
Red dots on pistols aren't worth the significant investment of money as well as training time necessary for quick, reliable dot acquisition because they provide absolutely zero benefit within 10 yards where almost all self-defense encounters occur.Change my mind.
>>65453629trip on buceebin
>>65453598?https://www.gunbroker.com/handguns/search/completed?keywords=walther%20p99%20-sw99%20-bersa&timeframe=1&sort=4&pagesize=48There's a Final solution on there just went for $500, and these results are JUST for the last 30 days. $450 for a used 9mm is not a stretch at all, patience is a virtue>>65453609Everything from 1 to 8I prefer 5-6. It's personal preference. Don't buy based on what other people say or see. You don't have their eyes, their experiences don't translate to you. You just need to try stuff and find out what, if anything, works best for you>>65453621Do they? Do they anon? Have you seen one in the wild? Can you find any in stock?
>>65453629>Poorfags argue for irons and that's an immutable fact of life, you will always out yourself as lower social rung when you wheel out excuse #34 for why you don't own optics in the year 2026. China has made the barrier for entry mcdonalds tier
>>65453288Don’t forget>in case of global societal collapse can easily be found anywhere
>>65453629You’re a retarded faggot, it does not matter to me if you remain a retarded faggot and a shitty shooter
>>65453629>significant amount of moneyWrong hobby for penny pinching>training timeI’d be training anyway
>>65453636Even if shit gets way worse but not exactly SHTF 9mm will still be the most affordable to shoot
>>65453633>Do they? Do they anon? >Have you seen one in the wild?Well, no.>Can you find any in stock?YarpI will probably buy one. Not sure if I want the 2 or 6.
That was good bait
>>65453618No we're not
>>65453644yes I almost replied to it.
>>65453647>one guy called him the thread lolcow>one guy copy pasted some text>one guy post a gif and called him a retard>one boomer replied in earnest
>>65453631>>65453635>>65453637>>65453638Posts status: not arguments.Mind status: not changed.Do better.
>>65453641>Yarp
>>65453639Well yeah, with the exception of some 45 ACP and 40 s&w, basically all law enforcement uses 9mm. Plus military, and like 90% of gun owners probably have at least one 9mm.Another reason I can’t quite justify getting 10mm. Yeah, the power would be cool, and no more than I shoot, I could afford it, but I just can’t justify it.
>>65453587I have a g20 V mos and it shoots really well. I like it mostly, but the grip material doesn't feel as nice as on the gen 3 19 I have.
>>65453674https://www.eurooptic.com/search?term=holosun%20goldtho it's just as cheab on amazon, and free shibbing :DD
>>65453688Well shut my gob, they finally did it, holy smokesIt's been promised for so long I didn't believe it
>>65453678Thanks for that input, anon. Yeah I really like my Gen 2 17. I’d assume the Gen 3’s probably feel about the same despite the finger grooves. If I get another, I want it to be a Gen 3, and I’d be open to a Gen 4 as well.
At what point is one a “gunsmith”?
>>65453797When you start with permanent modifications and fabricating your own parts. If you're just turning a wrench then you're an armorer.
This has to be a chinese knockoff right?Think it is still worth trying?
>>65453817>chinese knockoff>holosun>chinese>knockoff>holosunThink anon, use your brain...
>>65453817Holosun is a Chinese knockoff of Trijicon, yes.
>>65453810Anon, can you fabricate me a Glock that loads a side magazine and shoots 45 LC?
>>65453825No I'm not a gunsmith.
>>65453810>installed my own ambi bolt catchFuck yeah I'm a gunsmith
>>65453825Best I can do is give you a shitty sten, sorry
>>65453823>Horoxhun debasing itself with 1990s technologyrorrmao even
>>65453817SCS g2g
>>65453821>>65453823Yeah yeah, but you get what I meanIt is half price, in range with other cheap Chinese optics but way less than it should be
>>65453850The 90s were based
I love being around in the solved WML era, imagine having to spend 600$ for a pound of 200 lumens at 20 minutes
is this correct pistol grip?
>>65453868Surefire owners still know that feeling.
>>65453863The 90s were trying to be cool despite prevailing logic and opinions? huh?The 90s were just coolBut let's not pretend technology was faster, smaller or more powerful then
>>65453831>>65453833It’s ok, frens. We can make the ultimate war cowboy Glock in the bunker for the apocalypse.A side magazine loading Glock in 45 Long Colt.We can also do a variant of the Glock in 38 s&w (not to be confused with 38 special)
>>65453868>solvedAlmost, they can still be better.
>>65453910WML's are a solved product
>>65452585>favorite revolverK22, simple as
>>65453903Only men in the /k/omfy bunker?
>>65452585buying a s&w 586 4 inch, is it good or bad?
>>65453921Heat mitigation (probably can't be solved. Battery life can be improved, brightness in general can be improved with better LED diodes that are more efficient. Maybe that will help address the heat.
>>6545393530$ at the hardware store will buy you what the average glowing gray boy could only dream of 20 years ago. They're solved
>>65453936Just because they are improved doesn't mean they're solved and I disagree heavily about them being solved for the reasons I stated above.
>>65453937Keep sippin that "WMLs aren't a solved product" koolaid buddy. I'm gonna be chillin with my 30$ WML that can re-blind a blind man
>>65453940I've thrown away 3 of those chink lights you're describing because they're trash.
>>65453929Anon, women bleed and have hormones.
>>65453946But you can fuck them and teach them handgun cleaning (unless you enjoy cleaning)
>>65453946solution is to get women that don't bleed and don't have hormones
>>65453945Yep keep sippin that koolaid my man. I've had the same one for over a year and 10,000 rounds
>>65453960Maybe he could get a couple
>>65453961>suddenly becomes schizo for no reason
>>65453946Imagine the smell in that bunker
>>65453971>Concession status: Accepted
>>65453039>I don't want to spend $1/rd for defensive ammoWhat a foolish position. You practice with cheap range ammo, you keep a box or two of good defensive ammo around and shoot a mag or two a year of it. Cheaping out in defensive ammo is unbelievably retarded.
>>65453503CAA has never once made a good product in their history. Why would this be any different?
>>65454054C-c-cos C-Colion l-liked it!No, really though, can you point to legitimate, credible reports of it having problems?
>>65453547I won't, but I'll tell you what it's like.Fewer gun choices, but that's only a problem if you don't really like the 10mm options. There are plenty of good ones. If you go 1911 - well, that can be hit or miss but everyone seems to be getting better at it.Ammo is not hard to find, but it's not as readily available as 9mm. Especially locally. Expect to buy online. I only shoot magtech as everything else is either loaded too weak, or is too expensive.It will always, always be more expensive than 9mm. You will probably shoot less volume, not because of cost, but because you will fatique faster and generally shoot slower with 10mm. With the extra recoil, you'll spend longer getting back on target so your split times will be slower. You'll fatigue faster. Mags are lower capacity so you'll have more downtime loading. None of which is really an issue - I shoot probably half as many rounds when I take my 10mm vs my 9mm and feel equally satisfied at the end of a range session. So it ends up maybe even being slightly less expensive of a range session on average.For me, it's something like this.200rds of 9mm100rds of 10mm60rds of 357
>>6545358710mm Glocks are mega fucking fat, but so are 45 Glocks. I don't like them myself but I don't have massive hands.
>>65454063Did you actually look at it?It's a fat, bloated piece of shit made out of the same garbage polymer CAA has been making clearance bin AR accessories out of since 2006. It's a clamshell held together by screws like a fucking nerf gun. Are you fucking kidding me anon? Use your own instrument of judgement that God blessed you with for once in your life.
>>65452931I do. It is fun.
>>65453293There's two kinds of cool and 9x19 is the first because it's the most tactical pistol cartridge ever devised.
>>65454142What makes 380 fun in your opinion?
>>65454225uhhh 5.7?
>>65454071Are they too fat to carry?>>65454068I appreciate the insight anon. Well it’s kind of a shame how little ammo I actually keep on hand, but typically when I shoot on my property, I’ll take like 5 or 6 rounds and a milk jug of water. I just kinda do it for fun, and with so few rounds on me I slow way down.One of these days I’d like to start carrying again. 9mm has a big appeal to me because of the sheer availability and widespread use. Like hypothetically speaking if the world ever were to go to crap, you better bet I’ll have my Glock 17 on me. 10 mm may just be a fleeting fantasy for me, but I do wonder for HD it’d be better than 9. But then again if I needed something for HD, I’d probably just use the 20” AR.
>>65454263PDW cartridge
>>65453797you are gunsmith when make makarov soup
>>65454263>5.7Inferior terminal ballistics and at penetrating anything other than soft armour, too niche as a pistol cartridge.
>>65454393>Fuck that nissan and toyota
>>65454399The Tacoma will be fine, the Nissan's owner's fucked however
>>65454299*P90 cartridge
>playing game>gun in game is a vis100>kinda want one nowHow are they?
Guys I think something is wrong with this P-10. It feels like shooting a staple gun.
>hey guys today we’re gonna shoot this (obscure gun typically cheap with bad rep) gun >hahaha>this thing is ugly>these things aren’t known for being accurate>honestly, I’m kinda scared to shoot it haha>I’m wearing gloves and all this extra safety stuff just in case>*pops off every shot*>wow! I canntttt believe it worrkkeedddd>hahah>*proceeds to nitpick gun*>weeelll I mean it doesn’t have a slide hold openAm I the only one who cringes at stuff like this? Like dude, it’s a cheap gun, it’s fine to shoot. It’ll probably do what it’s designed to do. Just use proper gun safety and you’ll be fine.
>>65453062Get a DA/SA with a manual safety.
>Bought a Staccato C2 when they stopped making non mos versions >Bought a Glock 45 when faggot gen v was announced >gonna buy a CZ75 Compact when next paycheck cause they're gonna stop making metal gunsI think I did good all in all
>>65454523>am i the only one who virtue signals as a "geeze stop being such a tryhard!" user?no.
>>65454586They are only stopping the full steel guns. The PCR, P-10, and SP-01 will continue production. They are getting a shit ton of backlash online for it, mainly people blaming colt which is funny to me. I do recommend the factory hard rubber grips, very comfy.
>>65454634SP-01 shadow is full steel, unless you're talking of their concept gun the SP-01 phantom which is using a polymer frame
>>65454296>Are they too fat to carry?Subjective. In my opinion, yes. Open carry obviously no.
>>65454641I dont think the Phantom has been in production in like 10+ years, but you right. I always forget the SP-01 is full steel. Mainly because I have tiny girly hands and really only like compacts.Im sure some other turbo autist will pop in and say one of the comp line guns is also full steel. The crux of all this is that only the 75b, the 75bd, and the 75 compact are going away, they are not ditching their metal guns all together.
Tell me why I shouldn't get one of these for my rhino 200ds
>>65454587Are you calling me a virtue signaler or the people who make these videos, anon?
This one on the other hand feels like a toy. The flippy part is surprisingly rigid but everything else is just super low quality. The dot has an extremely low refresh rate on any setting except max brightness so they're using some garbo pulse width modulation, and max brightness...
is pathetic. Daylight brightness? lolnoIt's hard to see even in shadow. It's like 1/8th the brightness of the $10 cheaper literalwho joke dot
I don't know if I can even shoot with it for a meme. I honestly don't think it would be visible except on a very overcast day. I might have to return it :(
>>65454685What is the purpose of these as opposed to a proper PDW?
>>65454734it's for revolvers...
>>65454654same anon but yeah, the Phantom is only a concept gun, it was made in low numbers and that's it.the Shadow 2 is all full steel handgun and most tanfoglio are also full steel, oh also there's SVI infinity if you really want a race gun that is full steel.so yeah, there's still a choice, we're far from full on polymer only handguns (except for the tactiLARP market)
Oh well that answers that question. It dunneven fit RMR spec
>>65454503in case you're wondering, SP-01 mags fit in there.tested on mine
>>65453615another anon sees the light
>be me>shoot 5 rounds of 9mm at can from 20 feet>miss every. single. shot>shoot 5 rounds of snub nose .38 Special at milk jug from same distance>hit every. single. shotWhy am I like this? Are otter guns just that based?
>>65452796>If I'm dropping $3k, it's not to make an already great firearm look slightly prettier or have a slightly better trigger, wtfUnfortunately, that's most of the higher end handgun market. You can buy a 1911, CZ, or Beretta for $600, or you can spend $3000 for a souped up 1911, CZ, or Beretta. Want to get a fancy European revolver like a Spohr? Well it's just a hand-polished S&W action on the inside with an adjustable coil spring instead of a leaf spring, $3000 please. We obviously have exclusive designs like the Alien and FK BRNO at a high price point, but most of that market is made up of regular old duty guns with custom parts and fine tuning.
Does my Glock barrel look ok? Seems like the inside of the barrel entrance has a little uneven ring around the inside.
>>65454779Keep channeling your inner noir private dick and carry a snubby with spicy wadcutter loads.
>>65454822Honestly, I’d probably be better off carrying my revolver. I wish I could either cut down my S&W 1905 to 4” or either pick up a cheap model 10.Dude I gotta be a little autistic here for a sec, but I’d love to have a SAA that’s like 2/3 the size of a standard one. Until then, I guess I can be a double action cowboy or noir detective.Redpill me on wadcutters.
>>65453299Hi, guys. I just wanted to pop in and share my opinion on which cartridges look cool. The ones that come in a bunch of colors look the coolest. eg. shotgun shells, 9x39, 20mm, etc. This is incredibly important btw.Thank you
>>65453503>$300 for a wicked PCCIt's objectively not a PCC. IWNBAPCC.
>>65454840>Redpill me on wadcutters.Not him.No .38 special hollowpoint has been shown by testing to both:>reliably expand out of a snub nose revolver (because the velocity out of a snub nose tends to be insufficient)>reliably penetrate 12-18 inches as per FBI standard148 grain lead wadcutter target loads reliably penetrate 12-18 inches as per FBI standard and expansion is not an issue because they are not designed to expand.They are the best snubnose .38 special revolver defense round.
>>65454296I carry mine sometimes, but I have big hands. Also, don't get a 10mm. Where will you get real 10mm loads?
>>65454840The ruger wrangler is like a little SAA. It's only in .22 though.
>>65454864>>65454840Also, the wadcutters are low-recoil as shit, even out of an LCR or Airweight, and very accurate. You'll enjoy training with them.
>>65454840The other guy (him). To add on to the other anonsz wadcutters have been known to be pretty effective for a while. You can find old forum and blog posts of shooters testing out wadcutters compared to hollowpoints in snubbies, and even then those posters talk about older shooters who swore that out of small barrels wadcutters were pretty mean compared to their competition.From a more technical side, the flat face of a wadcutter punches holes more cleanly through paper than ball ammo, which made them popular for target shooting. That same construction helps its terminal ballistics, since it doesn't have to expand and presents a more devastating profile against meat targets. The old comparison is that a boat going forward disrupts water less than a boat going reverse, because of the curved bow splitting the water and the flat aft not.
>>65453547Almost every reason why people say .40 bad vs 9mm also applies to 10mm.>less capacity>more recoil>more expensive>not significantly more power to make a difference (vs humans)10mm's niche is being adequate for bears with the right ammo while having more capacity than a revolver. Are you Alaskan or live near the North Pole?
>>65454864What about .38 Special out of a 3" barrel? Sometimes I carry .38 +P in my GP100 for easier follow up shots
>>65454893Haven't seen 3" barrel testing data but you can look for it.The data I've seen is with 2" barrels and 4" barrels.
>>65454893>>65454894Going by this data, I want to say that the Federal 130 gr HST Micro will PROBABLY reliably expand and penetrate between 12-18 inches out of a 3" barrel.The Winchester 130 gr Ranger Bonded +P PROBABLY will too.https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/revolver-ballistics-test/#38splThe wadcutters wouldn't be a bad choice out of the 3" barrel either, though. That extra inch will not make them overpenetrate and they're still going to be low recoil and accurate as shit.
>>65454892Full power 10mm is like 1.5x the muzzle energy of normal .40sw so it’s not the same argumentIf you, as the shooter, can control 10mm, it’s terminal ballistics are better than 9mm in most scenarios
>>65454900https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=111Is this a good choice?
>>65454926I can't guarantee that won't overpenetrate. Those are loaded hotter than typical target loads. Typical target loads are what reliably penetrate between 12-18 inches.
>>65454720>>65454724Whats the name of the cheap one that runs? May pick one up as well.
>>65454472The only guy I've seen with on was in the ak general like 3-4 years ago. He said it was pretty good but not worth the $1300 he paid for it (iirc it was $1200 plus tax ect at the time). If you buy one post it here several other anons been eyeing em but nobodies pulled the trigger on it yet.
>>65454920It is the same argument, because that increase in muzzle energy is not very relevant when you're discussing the effects of a pistol caliber on a human target (like that anon was). At the end of the day, you're still just poking 10mm wide holes. That energy matters more so when talking about something like bear defense, where that energy translates into greater depths of penetration.
>>65454992Either this is a false memory, the guy didnt mention the vis 100 by the name "vis 100" in his post so I can't find it, or it was a post in one of the many FB gun groups I used to frequent at the time. I trolled through the archives trying to find it and its just hundreds of post of "has anyone bought a vis 100? I want to buy one but don't want to spend that much if it's bad" Here is the only post i could find which is from the akg so maybe it was in there just never mentioned the vis 100 by name.
>>65454810If it were it wouldn't matter the slightest bit>>65454985Don't go and do it yet, I haven't shot with it. It may blow up after 200 rounds. But it's ebay item 287507830091
>>65455036Oh speaking of burt i got this sight pusher. Nore expensive than the scam one but it actually arrived. Much bigger than I expected, like triple the size I pictured it being. Are there youtube tutorials for this thing because it came without any instructions in the box with it.
>>65454992>>654550221200-1300 is pretty whack. Some website on google (Arms of America?) pops up claiming to sell them for 800-1000 but who knows. I have to get the mags pinned for my gay ass state as well.
>>65454757I saw my CZ and CZ compact mags fit lock and feed snap caps. They just don't lock back. I found a bunch of 40 cal mags for 25$ bucks a pop I'm picking up because they fit 13 9mm.
>>65455056>Arms of AmericaThey're legit. I've ordered from them a handful of times.
>>65455056Oh yeah they dropped the price on them over the years but according to the archieves they had initially been announced announced as being around $750 and the price when it got listed for sale REALLY caught folks who had been excited to buy it off guard.AoA is legit but Atlantic sells most of the same shit and doesnt charge sells tax. Both are the primary sellers of most ak stuff like WBP aks and furniture and stuff
>>65455074>>65455085Well fuck it then, I’ll go for it for the sake of /hg/. I’ve gotta make a few other purchases first, I’ll see about ordering one soon, maybe October.
>>65455093based
I think it's neat.
>>65454884>>65454864>>65454887>You'll enjoy training with them.Thanks anons! That’s based. I love .38 Special, though I’ve never shot wadcutters. Also, very informative. I had heard of wadcutters but didn’t know all this stuff.>>65454877Yeah, that’s a cute little revolver. If only they made it in 38. I’ve got an old Spanish made .38 s&w revolver that I’ve never shot that quite frankly I think would be dangerous to shoot. It’s smaller like I’m talking about.
>>65455093>I’ll see about ordering one soon, maybe October.You're a good man, I'll wait for it. I love my WBP ak made with a FB Radom barrel, If the vis 100 is dope it would be cool to have both. I wont be able to shoot the ARO gold dot till laborday weekend at the earliest so I guess we both got delayed projects
>>65455140>/hg/
>>65455054Oof. That's the fallible design. The failures I've read include the ears cracking off the cast head and the extruded 6000 series aluminum frame bending. And it's $5 more than the knockoff 4x4machine style. But I wish it lasts for you, if you can get a few jobs out of it it'll be worth it>>65455114I do too. Do you have one?
>>65455173Bud I'm discussing a weird polish pistol and a project where im going to compare red/gold dots as an analog for folks wanting to get gold pistol dots. Post a gun>>65455176Ah beans. Well, I really just need it for the bg 2.0 sights and then I'm more than happy to toss it in the garbage so that I don't need to lug it to my next contract whereever in America that may be. Lets hope it last for just one slide
>>65455176>I do too. Do you have one?No, do you? I forgot it existed until earlier today when that anon up the thread asked about the 99. I remember buying a gun catalog from a bookstore on a field trip in junior high that had it in there thinking it was so cool.
>>65455132>Yeah, that’s a cute little revolver.If you mean the pic, that's a Ruger new Vaquero with the birdshead grip. If you mean the Wrangler, then yeah no .38 unfortunately.
>>65455207If they allow returns use it and lose it :) you don't have to prove anything, ebay will accept a return if the option is turned on>>65455210No. I would if I didn't make myself stop buying cheap interesting guns. But after my THIRD Remington R51 I said okay that's enoughThey are cool, not just for the weird aztek design but also because of the gas port """"""delay"""""" mechanism
>>65455207>Tolerate my non-/hg/ posting or else
>>65455226>If they allow returns use it and lose itWill do, always loved that table as a backdrop btw
Shot another 100 rounds carried in that pouch. Really just trying to get these magguts to have some sort of malfunction. Nothing so far. Found a nice spot to camp, going to come back when it cools off.
>>65453946I saw this image earlier that said brapnado and it had a woman farting down the hatch.
>>65455261Hell yeah anon. More folks should get outside and enjoy whats left of the summer
>>65455314It’s nice having a place this close. I hope it lasts.
how the fuck do you buy these SKUs? "Law enforcement only" shouldn't mean there's anything about the gun that's illegal for civilians, yet some of these configurations they have are fucking sick and you can only get them via these SKUs, but I can't really find any of them for sale online.https://www.smith-wesson.com/products/defense/pistols
>>65455314Folk
>>65454779I can shoot pretty damn accurate with a S&W, up to at least 50yds (been years). Surprisingly accurate with a little 21A. 200yd plates (bench) with a Ruger Standard/Mk series. My 92FS? LOL. Though I did find the rear sight needs pushing which may explain bad accuracy. Now if I could actually PUSH the sight and it would move maybe I'll be more accurate. Big if about it moving though.
>>65455363Guns for me but not for thee
>>65454053Anon, are you suggesting that I carry a Makarov for self defense? I don't want to buy expensive hollow points for a cheap range toy.
>>65454732Victorinox Paring Knife (America’s Test Kitchen winner) SPOTTED
>>65452060What about it makes you think its an N frame? The half luger barrel? If yes just know that they did make those 500s in that profile as well, at to me is the only one id wanna collect
Do transfer bars ruin the feel of SAAs?I'm thinking of getting a Super Blackhawk because it has the transfer bar so you don't shoot yourself in the thigh and bleed out while carrying 6 but I hear that the trigger isn't as crisp. Is this true or just fuddlore?
>>65455581>Is this true or just fuddlore?Half and half The break is just as clean, since the transfer bar is raised into place by cocking the hammer, but the overtravel can feel a little mushy since it's the trigger that holds it up
Anyone try the 226X? I read the DASA doesn't have a 90 degree break like the Elite does, and I'm trying to make a decision on which to get
>>65455535I'd mount a reflex sight on that babeh
>>65455226If I build another 870, that’s it!
>>65455907Damn, I wish my 870 was a mariner
>>65455908No Kel-tec ever called me a mariner
Guys, remember the Daniel H9?
>>65455535I don’t understand why no one makes a SAA in 38 special in a slightly smaller frame equivalent to a k frame. Literally every 38 SAA that I’ve found is just on a 45 LC frame and cylinder with less material taken out which just makes it heavier. Granted they’re usually 357 mags- I mean that kinda makes more sense, but still. I just want a 38 SAA that’s not a boat anchor.
>>65456167>I just want a 38 SAA that’s not a boat anchor.And I want a Beretta 84 chambered in 9mm as well as a topbreak revolver chambered in .357 Mag. And don't even get me started on a PX4 Compact in .45
>>65456197>>65456197I get the appeal. Especially the revolver and Beretta.
>>65456197I just want a USP with an optics cut and a standard rail.
>>65456261And I didn't want to eat grilled cheese off the radiator
>>65455908It was a a Tac-14 I form 1’d. it’s slick!
>>65456267>I compromised
>>65456267Shut the fuck up Phil
>>65456068Yeah remember how people said it had 100% newly redesigned parts that are completely different from the Hudson ones?
>>65456325If by "people" you mean TFB, yeah.
Should I spring the extra few hundred dollars for a steel frame P38? It doesn't seem all that much more in the long run
I have a question for PX4Anon but I'm waiting for next thread
>>65455581you don’t get the iconic 4 click cocking sound which is a dealbreaker
>>6545630720 years, not a peep
>>65456467id rather have steel frame, if you can only get aluminum make sure it has the hex bolt in the frame
>>65456475I made the thread so I can ignore your question next thread >>65456514>>65456514>>65456514>>65456514
