Make ziggers madPost TZD scorecards and "best of" compilations
>>65452971Russia hasn't mobilised enough people to reach that goal (yet)The ultimate high score is 27 million
>>65452867Glory to ukraine.Take my WW2 colorized pigeon controlled bomb factory picture as thank you.
Funny how they stopped seething in the other thread exactly at the point it hit bump limit though.
>>65452971Kek OP hit the jackpot within one post
>>65453206>So it's a double holiday?Lol
>>65453206https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hls2fJ4Yuo
Ukies held a drone parade to celebrate the occasionUGVs in the street, UAVs above and USVs in the river
>>65452867What are the Russian equipment stocks looking like? I can’t image very good.
>The three day demilitarization of Ukraine has now gone on longer than world war 1>Ukraine now has domestic ballistic missile production and insane drone warfare capabilities
>>65453306But we fire ballistic missiles at kindergartens. Xoxols btfo ))))))))
>>65453328lol wtf is happening here?
>>65452867Potential -1 Belarus coming up?
>>65453335don't you hate it when your kindergarteners explode and discharge into nearby buildings?https://kyivindependent.com/these-requirements-were-ignored-how-ammunition-stored-beside-vyshneve-homes-multiplied-the-toll-of-a-russian-strike/
>>65453865I stopped asking a long time ago.
>>65453865women
>>65453335>Xoxols btfo ))))))))you mean Iraniansbtw great tread janny
>>65453304Most major vehicle depots have been effectively emptied of serviceable tanks and IFVs (with the remaining stocks either completely unusuable or ones that are in such poor condition that it would require cannibalizing multiple other vehicles to get them working again). It's one of the big reasons why tank losses have dropped off to single-digits for awhile now. Ukrainians are literally running out of targets.
>>65453865Russia's happening
>>65455542Wouldn't be surprised if they looked at Iran and thought "Hey, maybe we should too sit and do nothing while all our assets get pulverized, the bum-touching crests will get tired of bombing us and leave!"
>>65452867Damn... almost one and a half million casualties and their civilians are still backing the war. You have to acknowledge that Russians truly possess a strong fighting spirit and a solid sense of social unity.
>>65455552Holy hell. At this rate ukrainians are going extinct by 2200. Russia really know how to play the long game huh.
>>65455617Only if the war continue to 2200. I doubt it tough.
>>65455542Shit man, I miss the intel edits, I lost my folder of them
>>65455552
>>65455636Final panel is correct if it's a Borzoi
>>65455552Come on, man.
>>65454434He owes his continued rule to Putin's troops in 2020. He's trying desperately to avoid getting pulled into the war but if he gets too uppity Putin may decide he needs replaced. So he dances on the head of a pin trying to make Belarus look like they wouldn't hurt a fly while Putin is desperately trying to force a swatter in his hand.
>>65453865May Day performance honouring sacrifice of mother's sons in great patriotic war
>>65455552>Ukraine would be better off as part of russia
>>65455555quints of quints
>>65455555nah, that requires a level of self awareness and introspection that ziggers are incapable of
>>65455617not just ukrainians but all white people
>>65455542Look on the bright side, now those patches of dead grass will now receive sunlight.
>>65457295I wouldn't wish that fate on my worst enemy.
>>65457434>Direct investment from russian capital.what capital? the economy is deathspiraling.>1... uh guess they have to follow russian law.what law?also conveniently ignoring the inevitable mass slaughter and genocide that is currently ongoing and has been ongoing since 2022 and to a lesser extent 2014.
>>65457438yeah i know but i have free time
>>65457412Post thriving Russian cities outside of Moscow and St Petersburg.
>>65453206This is ghoulish.Grim, even.
>>65457466>This is funny as fuckFixed!I'm looking forward to 2036 when she'll be a babushka in rags begging for scraps in the ruins of moscow, still with the picture by her side. No family, no future, no hope.russia is a death cult, we must grant them their wish
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>>65457484You moderates disgust me.
>>65452867How the fuck do you lose that many tanks?
>>65457457>Look, what i write above is under the assumption that russia ask them nicely to join their federation and they actually acceptedthe primary problem is that the russians never would have stopped at ukraine. my own conversations and experiences with russians make this clear - putin and the average person either wants or does not mind a restoration of the russian empire. this would inherently bring it into war with other nations, whether it be china or (more probably) the EU.additionally, the russian federation would sideline and downplay the ukrainan language, in the same way lukashenko has ensured the downfall of belarusian
>>65457491I assume that's extrapolated to some extent because we can only visually confirm the loss of around 4500 russian tanks.Taking the ukie figs at face value would imply a little under 2 additional tanks taken out via imputed losses or in circumstances that prevent visual confirmation for every one confirmed destroyed
>>65457457There are people alive in a Ukraine right now who lived through the last time Russia occupied their countryThat's why they fight so hard
>>65453328Totally would in the peach cardigan, but she would have to do the head thing during.
>>65453206russky women are pure love uh
>>65457562>attacking country 10:1 advantage>4YEARS LATER>we're doing pretty good!Lol.
>>65457590B.but they have tits like dudes and junk.
>>65455724The last thing Russia needs is the instability of a power change in Belarus even if they're installing a puppet. It'd introduce a lot of factionalism that could be exploited by outside powers, Ukraine would take it as a sign to begin clandestine operations carte blanche, and it'd mean a massive disgruntled populace that is already unwilling to go to war. Plus Belarus has a government-in-exile recognized by the EU.
>>65453206Russia is a death cult of squatters living in the skeleton of the Soviet Union.
>>65457584I went on a date with a thick Armenian mom once. Didn't lead anywhere but I get the vibe.
>>65457551that's because there were no glory days, only corruption, incompetence and murder
>>65457562>CubaFucking Indian commies making a metric for other commie dumps to statpad in.
>>65457509most of the poor souls fighting were likely born after the ussr collapsed thoughbeit
>>65457606I am looking forward to the day Russia can just be classified as 'Occupied Landfill' instead of being loosely considered a country
>>65457591>>attacking country 10:1 advantage>>Still loseAmerca tend to do that honestly.
>>65457506Ukr MoD numbers are extrapolated for the early part of the war, they get more accurate from 2024 forwards (more FPVs, ofc)Oryx is at 4500 for the absolute floor, but they meticulously count only those visually confirmed , so they obviously miss a huge number of actual kills.What we know is that the Russian storage yards are almost empty (and what is left there are rusted out wrecks), and that they ran the refurbishng centers and actual tank factories with three shifts for the past four years.How many they actually lost is hard to say: They started the war with 3k to 3.6k tanks, and they removed slightly over 5k from storage since then.Depending on who you choose to believe, they also manufactured new T-90s. These may just be folded into the refurbs, because they may not be making new hulls.They claim '250 per year', so they may have made slightly under 1k T-90s.FWIW, I deem this claim highly unlikely. That leaves Russia with a max potential of just under 9k tanks, 4.5k of which we know are gone. Oryx clearly undercounts, Ukr MoD clearly overclaims.My guess is between 6k and 7k total lost, 1k or so damaged, possibly repeatedly (explains some overclaims).Russia's tank force is gutted, and will probably never recover.You can play the same game with BMPs or BTRs. It does not get better, BMPs got completely raped. But they apparently keep 2.5k BTRs in reserve as a counter-civil ware force.
>>65455610I think you've either fallen for the dog-and-pony show, or are trying to help put one on. It's totally different factors with them now than say, WW2. It's total atomization and social indifference that is lubricating this mass culling so effectively, not because the population at large are so invested and motivated. Russia is displaying what a massive chest of funds it has accumulated (and seemingly squandered) from its oil wealth, using huge financial incentives to try to keep a war going that's too unpopular to risk wider mobilization. Signs of strong social unity would be a larger willingness to sign-on irrelevant of a fat paycheck, the population supporting their wounded veterans, and deep soul-searching when things go wrong.
>>65457819>deep soul-searching when things go wrongNo country in this god damned earth does that, tough.
>>65457872Don’t look Russia at importing jeets
>>65457562>thriving based on number from nearly a decade ago before the war even kicked off
>>65457562Have you bought all the school necessities, sharty-kun? Less than a week remains.
>>65457491The last "reasonable" estimate of Russian and Ukrainian losses in early 2025 was high but both sides exaggerate losses and victories like pointy missile middle eastern totalitarians. Reasonably150-400k Russian casualties80-150k Ukrainian casualties including civilians14,000+ Russian armored vehicles lost10,000+ Ukrainian vehicles lost 100+ Ukrainian aircraft lost250+ Russian aircraft lostUkrainian navy was mostly lost in Crimea so not as bad there.Russian navy about 20-50+ ships of all sizes lost. 31 abrams lost, 200 MRAPs lost, 32 leo 2's lost, at least 2 challenger 2's lost.Russian has launched around 15-16k drones and missiles into Ukraine. Ukraine has launched at least 9k drones and missiles into Russia and at Russian forces. Without air superiority, both sides are terminally bogged down. Just lobbing shit at each other as fast as they can get/produce it.
>>65457872What blew up now?
What's up with these types of threads always having the largest amount of ziggers and their globobrown allies seething and attempting to derail them? Surely they wouldn't be so angry if statistics were as fake as they claim, right?>>65458104Ozon warehouses are part of the bingo card now
>>65458104its election season (18-20 September) so they might have dialed it up for that
>>65458132What are the candidates? All Putinbots
>>65452867>Submarines: 2 This never fails to make me smile :]
>>65457488What’s this in reference to?
>>65458145>What’s this in reference to?An infamous 2007 movie about how shit life in 1984 Russia is. It's considered a classic I believe.The woman in question is kidnapped and gang-raped and spends most of the movie naked and handcuffed to that bed, it's not specifically about her, she's just kind of background ambience to all the other Russian shit going on.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHt5xTjsKcM
>>65458104>What blew up now?An Lt Col in pidorsburg and based on what was said about it, he was probably someone that earned his place on SBU's shitlist.Not much more info than that available right now, it was a car bomb that detonated when the car started to move, his wife was in the passenger seat and is in the ICU, he's been promoted to cargo 200.Also a bunch of other things.They tried to fuck up downtown Kyiv last night but somebody anonymously gave them interceptor missiles as an independence day gift so they were all shot down except two that hit a school yard earlier today (no injuries, everyone was sheltering).>>65457551>only remember the dying days of soviet union not the glory daysIt wasn't glorious for anyone that wasn't in charge.
>>65458203>They tried to fuck up downtown Kyiv last nightOh, they also just missed a bridge with a shahed too.
>>65458201Damn that’s grim.>1984For some reason I was under the impression that all the criminal gang related shit only really became serious after the fall of the Soviet Union, and that for all its flaws the Party at least had a good grip on street-level crime.
>>65458209I think they had a handle, but that means those who were still organised criminals under those conditions were even harder and the ones best positioned to abuse the privatisation wave. Sort of MRSA equivalent.
>>65458209By the late-70s Brejnevite rot had started setting in, meaning people were beginning to look for "alternate" means to improve their daily lives. Adding to this was the aggressive international economic policy adopted by the US starting with circa 1981, which proved to be a very sudden and hard shock for commie regimes, including that of the USSR. Them getting embroiled in the Saur Revolution's aftermath (eventually leading to full invasion of Afghanistan) didn't help either.
Propaganda threads are fun.
>>65458209>and that for all its flaws the Party at least had a good grip on street-level crimeLet me remind you that the communist media control was effectively total. Unless it became super-harsh, "do not ever go out at night" tier, crime in smaller numbers would be downplayed and presented as statistical outliers that happened in some bumfuck nowhere town (certainly not in your direct neighborhood comrade) and as an argument that the strict state control is still necessary.
>>65458222>and as an argument that the strict state control is still necessaryChina does the same thing, if you ask Chinese why they can't have freedom, one of the things they'll sometimes say is that they're afraid of other Chinese having freedom because they can't trust them.Better to be kept under total surveillance with brutal oppression so that the Chinese rabble can't cause too much trouble.
>>65458209You needs crime in a totalitarian communist state. The "crime" is really just another wing of the state economy and a "cheat code" for sanctions or trade imbalances or currency valuation issues.The vory class was there right from the start. It ran through prisons and streets. Read Gulag Archipelago ffs. "With God in Russia" is awful nightmare shit too, Father Walter J. Ciszek.
>>65458221Two more weeks, two more red arrows, two more meat waves comrade
>>65458246Yep, in later years it was used to vacuum up excess money from the market (since there was fuckall worth buying in official shops).
>>6545828814-16 Ukrainian girls.
>>65458101Russia accidentally released statistics that they had 500k KIA by 2023. If anything Ukraine's estimates are an underestimate.
>>65458101>14,000+ Russian armored vehicles lost>10,000+ Ukrainian vehicles lostWhy are you trying to compare Russian AFVs to all Ukrainian vehicles? I am skeptical of your motives, and your post in general.
>>65458101>Reasonably150-400k Russian casualtiesYou can't be seri->but both sidesHello neutrooooooooler, dare to estimate the present size of puccian army, if by pidorian sources they get up to 40k volunteers per month?
>>65458388>>65458390Also interesting how he singles out specific Western vehicle losses on the Ukrainian side
>>65455724>>65455724>>65457598Luka will be right on that as soon as he is finished with these potatoes...The clever move would be for him to propose stationing Norks in Belarus for 'joint training' selling it to Putin as a way to free up the Russian troops already there and to menace the Baltic states then use his delaying superpower. The majority of Russians leave to get cubed and when Russia falls apart the Norks can help secure his rule as well as give him a potential allied force to intervene in any internal Russian power struggle. He might even get Kim to announce that they are under Nork Nuclear protection (Nork nukes on European soil!) to dissuade Western intervention.That last bit sounds ridiculous but it would instantly make the Norks a major global player and is such an outrageous flex that Kim might go for it and Putin is dumb enough to allow it.
>>65458474Norktard once again being one of the few reasonable people ittThanks?
>>65458209>For some reason I was under the impression that all the criminal gang related shit only really became serious after the fall of the Soviet UnionA-ha-ha-ha-ha>and that for all its flaws the Party at least had a good grip on street-level crime.A-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-haBruh, you thought like that because of a) propaganda and b) hiding shit from the media. Soviet retards will gladly tell you how they've "let kids run around the city until the night", because they didn't know better that pedos and criminals were active always. Newspapers, radio and TV won't tell them about it. "If we pretend that the problem doesn't exist, it won't be a thing". Crime and street crime were super widespread and common, it just that it didn't cause waves in society because it was hushed up until the late 80s. People also had gold fish tier memory, so a person getting robbed in the street would turn around and a week later wouldn't even remember that he was a victim of crime. This is still a big issue for people overall, even more so in ex-USSR. Who knows what's the main source of this, just people repressing bad stuff or something else. But excessive drinking didn't help with memory shit definitely. Overall the biggest issue is that USSR was a bydlo-state by its nature. It was founded and molded by it. That was the class the regime based its rule on. Propaganda would try to whitewash this later, but that was the name of the game. Then fucked up repressions happened and it made things even worse. The joke in russia was that "half the country is doing time, the other half is guarding them". And while I'm not sure how things are in the US or Western Europe, but in USSR the police/penitentiary community are also deep into the same gang/criminal culture thing. You can look up who are the main audience of the "russian chanson" / "thief's song" genre is - it's cops and adjacent faggots.
>>65458491Consider the following: If Luka wanted to become the 'interim' leader of a union state as a 'caretaker' he could go to Moscow at the same time as the Norks were allegedly 'going home' so he had a division of 'friendly' troops with him. If the Norks stationed in Belarus had a few nukes he could ensure he was chosen to lead because he was sitting in Moscow with a small independent atomic force.Think Boris Yeltsin on a tank but it's a KN-23 TEL with a radiation symbol painted on the warhead.
>>65452867This is fake btw
>>65453304Better than American after the Iran war
>>65458530>>65458524.....
cont. >>65458516Then add all the other crap: crappy jobs, shitty life, no hobbies or self-fulfillment, no change for a better life (wages are more or less uniform, can't do business, etc), no freedom of travel, restricted freedoms in terms of even choosing a job, not even good media for entertainment, people would just drink and engage in destructive shit. This shit slowly brewed for decades and by 1970 you had street gangs of teens doing "wall on wall" (group on group) fights just for the hell of it. You could get beat up or robbed in the middle of the day just for going into "someone else's district" and so on. And since this was never enough it would evolve into regular criminal gangs and mafia type organizations. None of this was a secret to the police but they didn't do shit and didn't acknowledge this because it was politically toxic. How can the paradise on earth country for working men have violent gangs with fuckin' teens beating up and killing randoms in the street? Their internal metodichkas called that "Kazan phenomenon" (English language wiki sucks shit when describing this), as if it's something specific to the city of Kazan (regional capital of Tatarstan), but it was just the most famous example.
cont. >>65458548But overall it was primordial soup of:- a fuck ton of forced urbanization happens in a short time, people from rural areas are moved into the cities, they don't get the urban culture and instead clash with it, conflicts arise on the "us vs them" type;- just a fuck ton of non-locals move in overall, e.g. people who were evacuated during the war, even more conflicts of "locals vs those who moved in";- then people are finally released from the gulags once stalin dies by pissing and shitting himself and so local society gets a massive injection of criminal culture, which the gulag prisoners bring back with them;- meanwhile there's no upward social mobility in this system, your life sucks, you see that your future is drinking beer and vodka, working in a factory, getting beat up and nagged to death by your whore of a wife, who takes away your paycheck (yes, really), with you having to do odd jobs to get some extra money she doesn't know about, so that you can at least use that for booze and such;- people see gangs as cool and want to emulate them, you can't get upward mobility, respect and other progress in regular life, but you can get it inside a gang, so you go all-in into this shit;- police won't do anything, politics are involved and such;- KGB basically wants to use "strong proletarian youth" against internal enemies, e.g. "dissidents, cosmopolitans and informal youth" lol, so it basically is a beneficiary of gangs;So it brewed into a fucked up state where little kids would even do criminal gangs. And people would have regional gangs to the point of each street having its own gang and such.And then all of that exploded in the late 80s and 90s when business became more a thing, so there was finally more crap to plunder for them.
>>65458538>you're brown just like half of the US? You will never be white Pedro Sanchez Ortega
>>65458670>didn't deny itIf only you knew how brown things really are
>>65458566Based effort-poster
>>65458133the candidates don't really matter as you'd expect, but the pantomime is important for letting the regime tell itself and any doubters that it has popular support so if you've got a problem with it you should just stay out of politics
>>65458771They have so much support, they decided to ban Yabloko.
>>65458566>>65458548>>65458516OP of the original question here, good effortpost.One more insidious way an authoritarian society is not fit for most people and cultures to live in.
>>65458516>Crime and street crime were super widespread and common As a young kid in a gommie country (not vatnikstan though, thank fuck) during the '80s, I remember people talking among themselves about burglaries. The weirdest part is, the burglars didn't really manage to enjoy their ill-gotten goods. Informants were everywhere, so they got arrested a few days later (then inevitably sent to prison, which caused the inmate population to balloon massively). Yet there was always a fresh batch. Whether it was leaded gas-induced poor reasoning and impulse control, whether it was nihilistic devil-may-care, I never could figure out.
>>65458888Here's a humorous quote from a 1970s soviet criminal comedy:>you steal, you drink (as in spend the money from your crime on booze and such), you go to prison, you steal, you drink, you go to prison (as in "rinse & repeat") — this is romance (as in the romance of life)It's only partially a joke. Many literally lived in this mode:10 steal something20 sell the loot30 squander money on booze40 sober up when the money ends50 goto 10
>>65458836That's the point, their internal projections and polls have shown that too many people might vote for them, which would visibly undermine the facade of total support for the regime. Can't have that be visible. The last time they've played around with this was mosqueov mayor elections back in the day where they've allowed Navalny to run and then had to fudge the votes to avoid a run off in the election from happening.
>>65458918Even many votes for controlled opposition like the Communist would make United Russia look bad. But they can't blow the elections off completely.
>>65458930It's different. Commies and other controlled opposition is directly and openly pro-regime. Yabloko, while also controlled opposition ("election decorations"), at least tries to present a cucked "peace" platform. Yabloko was always a token liberal party, designed to be mocked that they can't even get through the minimal number of votes.
>>65458930>But they can't blow the elections off completely.Yeah that's what I don't understand. There's not a single Russian who believes the elections mean anything, right (brownoids, serboids [lol same thing] and western retards don't count)?So why bother having them?
>>65458955Even a managed election can give authoritarian states political capital for actions. Putin wants to maximise his perceived legitimacy before resorting to something politically dangerous like mobilisation.
>>65458955>So why bother having them?Because performative elections make an authoritarian regime stronger, not weaker.
>>65458955"We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying. In our country, the lie has become not just a moral category, but the pillar industry of this country."
>>65458955One of their arguments is that Zelinskyi is a dictator because Ukraine doesn't hold elections under the given circumstances. Meanwhile Russia isn't under martial law and only small parts are occupied so they'd look even weaker if they didn't hold elections.
>>65459008Nevermind the one man who actually ran against Putin was fucking assassinated
I watched a video of one of the most recent strikes on Russian refineries. Every single worker was indian. Every single one and there were dozens shown.
>>65458961>Putin wants to maximise his perceived legitimacy before resorting to something politically dangerousEven the russians themselves know that the elections are blatantly fraudulent.How would further sham-elections improve the perceived legitimacy of a leader that's openly rigging the elections in his own favor?In any reasonably normal country such a sham-election would only discredit the leader, directly having a negative influence rather than a positive one.
>russia cutting their non military budget by 35%That bad huh
>>65459774>How would further sham-elections improve the perceived legitimacy of a leader that's openly rigging the elections in his own favor?No protests = the populace openly supports the result)))
>>65459774>Even the russians themselves know that the elections are blatantly fraudulent.a) You'd be surprised at just how many retards are perpetually clueless;b) Performative elections boost an authoritarian regime's stability and longevity, not the other way around, russia isn't unique in this sense;
>>65459774>In any reasonably normal country such a sham-election would only discredit the leaderyou're thinking of a country that actually has democracy or even any remote possibility or aspiration for it, which is why even in Belarus the blatant sham election provoked mass protestsin entrenched dictatorships such as the russia, china, north korea etc the elections are a perverted ritual that either makes you co-complicit with the regime or injects a sense of complete hopelessness into your veins. the peons are made to believe there is an unbreakable mass in support of the dictatorshipthat being said all dictatorships come undone very suddenly and swiftly after that image of unbreakability shatters
>>65460004can you post any milk or benzin jeetnigger?
>electing Putin for the 6th time will save Russia
>>65459023>the onelol there's usually several parties in elections
>>65460011>nobody has ever provided actual proof of this.if you ignore the proof, this is true.
>>65456302built for pozzed chechen cock btw
>>65460093still waiting btw
>>65460093nope, this is the western internet and you probably have a VPN so blocks dont matter. you've already seen these things and simply have discarded or refused to investigate them because it is hard on the mind for many people to be fundamentally wrong. go use google or whatever, you can find any information if you bother to look. maybe someone else will be kind enough to waste their time on you, but personally I consider the russian race to be a black hole.
>>65460093146%Or was it 143?
>>65460131okay so you admit there isn't any proof
>>65458548These Teen gangs would use English slang, too, so it's essentially a reversed version of A Clockwork Orange.
>>65460170i consider you to be on a lower intellectual level than an SSman. at least he did not have the internet to prove him wrong. i don't care enough to put the effort in to try to find sources (which you will ignore because globohomo CIA psyops) to prove you wrong and change your mind, i simply hope you die.
>>65458548that's crazy, I know several people who grew up in various cities in soviet Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. they talked about growing up in the USSR but this never came up. where in the USSR did you grow up?
>>65460201>Russia is a democracy and I have no proof to the contrary
more brother wars please
>>65460255
the hour of the proof is upon us
>>65458288>you should dislike Ukraine because pedos and traffickers live there>you should like russia despite the fact that pedos and traffickers live there I never really understood this line of propaganda
>>65458888>10 steal something>20 sell the loot>30 squander money on booze>40 sober up when the money ends>50 goto 10How fucking old are you, nigga?
>>65460429>Russia has more redeeming qualities than UkraineSuch as
>>65460436More prime cunny readily available for low prices today
>>65460436For all those bugchasers, it's much easier to catch HIV in russia
>>65460436if your son dies in the glorious patriotic denazification campaign you get a whole collection of different snacksThe so called Ukraine could never compensate their people with such riches
>>65460459>filename>7538
>>65460459>spamming the same HDI from 2019 with 0 thought put what it is now
>>65460538Ukraine got the shit end of that stick without a doubt
>>65460547Surely you have the current data to back that up and surely you have Russia’s as well?
>>65460689>>65460692>russia is better >tanking economy >services becoming shit>millions fled from the war as wellThe standards are fucking good there either so I don’t why you feel the need to gloat over HDI data both countries are extremely fucked birth rate wise and both are ignoring a shit ton of infrastructure damage. Seriously why are you hung up on this
>>65460702*arent
>>65460201>Russia is a democracy
>>65460459>shartynigger still spams the pre-war statistic
>>65460201There is no proof to russias claims of being one either. "oh we have elections". rigged as fuck. They're not? prove it. Until proven otherwise, russians are liars, cheats, fuckwits and retards.
>>65460459>look at these russian regions that are more developed than ukraine>comparable to such incredible nations as>greece>slovenia>franceAHAHHAHAHA
>>65460201Putin has held power for 25 years straight and is demonstrably above the law, Russia is not a democracy
I'm gonna remember all this "russia is a democracy" talk when you disgusting ziggers try to avoid responsibility when the war ends.You're all ending up on the chopping block.
>>65460840The "Russia is basically Singapore" line was a new one that absolutely launched my sides higher than a T-72 turret
>>65460840Russia's democracy isn't the most transparent, but neither is Ukraine's.The truth is, both countries don't have real democracy.Yet, /k/ act like Ukraine is some kind of perfect democracy and never make mistakes, while still calling Russia the butcher of democracy or something like that.That is very infuriating and hypocritical.
>>65460880Yeah, it turns out that when people like you they're willing to cut you some slack, but when you're disliked people won't give you any.
>>65460882More like, when you try hard and keep bumbling in roughly the right direction people will trust you a lot more than if you keep making empty claims only to gloat like a nigger about pulling a fast one on you the moment you believe them.
>>65460918>making empty claimsBut enough about ukraine...
>>65452867Havent been here in forever, just randomly wondered, what happened to "Armatard"? Is he still going strong or did the meds take effect by now?
>>65460880>Russia's democracy isn't the most transparent, but neither is Ukraine's.Idk, russian democracy seems perfectly transparent, since you always know who’s going to win the election. Ukrainian democracy, on the other hand, is just incomprehensible. A Nazi country supposedly trying to destroy everything russian votes for a russian-speaking jew? What did they mean by this?
>>65460880no, russia is just not a democracy period, end of story.>t-the truth is, both countries don't have a real democracy yetno, both countries are incomparable and you should stop trying to squeeze them into the same sentence as if they're in any way on the same level.russia is not anywhere near a democracy, and never will be until the entire country is overturned and occupied by outside forces for a generation.ukraine is a 100% legitimate crystal fucking clear democracy that has corruption issues, there is no comparison to be had between the two.
>>65460919>b-but enough about ukrainewe're not talking about ukraine, we're talking about russians and their inability to tell the truth for even 10 seconds.
>>65460999I got some numbers too to change the lies!
>>65461034+1 aircraft>A Russian strategic bomber Tu-95MS was hit at Engels-2 airfield last night
>>65461071Engels in range of long range strike drones should get the AA Cuckold all sweaty in their chair
>>65460977>armatard>actually improves his own life or for anyone who has contact with himHeh, that's a good one, but he's still the same disgusting self-serving parasite to the core like he always been.He is rarely seen here anymore, but only because he shifted his attention to zigger telegram groups and when he's back it's hard to differentiate him from the brainrot ziggers and cum /chug/gers on their daily raids and spam sprees. He doesn't make the ziggers in the telegram groups happy either, if i can believe my russian speaking friends, his whole 'i don't care how much russians need to suffer or to die so i can win internet arguments again' attitude isn't exactly popular with anyone.
>>65460880>Russia's democracy isn't the most transparentBecause it never existed outside of shill-maintained alternate reality, you brown retard
>>65460880>Russia's democracy isn't the most transparentunderstatement of the century>while still calling Russia the butcher of democracythat is because they're literally constantly trying to infiltrate the institutions of other countries. Ukraine itself had to kick their own russian stooge by marching in the streets and beating the fuck out of the police until the men bought and paid for by the kremlin had to flee back to russia.But you're right, actually they're totally both the same, dear neutrooler. I forgot about all those ukrainian diplomats that have been caught trying to corrupt my country's officials to steal and deliver them documents relative to national security and military equipment, or all those ukrainian tourists that somehow keep getting lost and ending up at military installations where they then proceed to take pictures, or all of those ukrainian hackers that keep fucking with my country's online services and so on.Fucking retard.
>>65461164Post some examples of his telegram antics?
>>65460180That was later. Generally they would use a bootleg variant of the russian criminal language, which was mostly based in yiddish (yes).
>>65460193What "people"? A fuck ton would be just delusional and ignore reality. Some would look away. Some wouldn't even register that as something not-normal or bad. "Just boys being boys" and such. And since this wasn't covered by media, most people whom actually saw it would usually think "this is an isolated incident, surely". Just like millions of people went through the russian army, all of them seen the reality of it being a dysfunctional buttsex machine, and yet all of them expected that the machine worked for warfare: "yes, it was weird retarded shit in our detachment, but surely the rest of the army is functional" - yes, that's how most of them thought. Or maybe they were sheltered fags from the center of mosqueov, whom lived a wholly different life.But it's weird reading that someone would deny water being wet. Where do you think the much discussed "crime wave of the 90s" appeared from? Those were literally people already were there accustomed to doing that crap pre-1991 lol. Where do you think all the gopniks appeared from? They were already a thing, they just weren't known by that name by the masses and weren't talked about by the media as a general phenomenon.
>>65460435My birth certificate has a hammer & sickle on it, nuff said.
>>65460880>muh both sidesBruh, russia had 2 president since 1991: pre-monke and monke. Ukraine had 6.
>>65460880Ukraine>not a real democracy>has elections>has changing presidents and parties>hasnt invaded any of its neighboursRussia>a real democracy>elections?>parties? No, party! Presidents? No, only premonke and monke.>invaded itself (chechnya), invaded Georgia and now Ukraine.hmm I wonder why people say Ukraine is a better democracy, hmmm...
>>65461297ukraine is 2 years overdue for elections thoughever. Democracies do not suspend elections just because of a war.
>>65461402it is literally in their constitution. it is working as designed
