Let that sink in for a moment y'all
Wow, any more news from 20 years ago you want to share?
>>65455351>It's "much cheaper" not "more cheaper"
>>65455357Carriers hasn't changed from 20 years ago
>>65455351>and still got away undetectedWhy do retards add this shit as if every sonar in the carrier group wouldn't go active the second the carrier exploded?
>>65455359Thx for the free english lesson. Much appreciated.
>>65455423i mean it was a wargame so there were probably some completely arbitrary rules and i believe that sweden only has diesel subs which are really quiet.the fact that retards and shills draw some stupid conclusion is another story.
>>65455351>y'all
>>65455351So Chinese carriers will be easy picking then?
>>65455445They were using a Stirling engine sub and the US borrowed it for a year after the exercise to gather sonar data on it.And retards are gonna retard.
>ziggers: fuck up admiral coalburners refit so hard that they pull the plugshills: carriers are obsolete now saar!
I bet the carriers will just be alone in unprotected unscouted waters
>>65455351>and still got away undetectedSpeaking of which, would it be an acceptable behavior for the sub to immediately surrender to the escort and emerge after sinking the carrier?Would the opponent respect it, and would their own side accept it as a sensible decision to avoid being detected and destroyed once their job is done?
>>65455427>Thx for the free english lessonThx for the free English lesson"English" has to be capitalized. It is a proper noun and a proper adjective.
>>65455609Legally it would a surrender, it would also be very easy to argue that you couldn't see into the torpedo tubes and thus they were still a threat.Realistically they get shredded by every deck gun in the carrier group and any survivors are left to drown.
>>65455351Yeah but what can a submarine do to a carrier's payload?
>>65455614>"English" has to be capitalized. It is a proper noun and a proper adjective.if you're being offficial, yes, but this is a forum so who cares?
The greatest threat to a US nuclear aircraft carrier is and always will be its nigger crew.
>>65455351The current record in actual combat between carriers and submarines is USA 30 Iran 0. Which might be more relevant than a training exercise from 21 years ago.
>>65455357>news from 20 years agodoesnt this happen at literally every naval exercise that involves a submarine? its always some sub that just floats there and gets all the simulated kills.
>>65455998i dont think there was ever naval combat between 30 (!) iranian subs and an us carrier. when would that sea battle have been?
>>65455351>more cheaper>>65455417>Carriers hasn'tAbsolutely fascinating to browse /k/ in the morning and see the surviving foreigner dreck that got posted overnight
>>65456031You can literally watch the FLIR footage in 4k on the Centcom Twitter account. It was in March.
>>65456015Yes, because the battlegroup isn't allowed to use their active sonar during peacetime.
>>65456045>You can literally watch the FLIR footage in 4k on the Centcom Twitter account. It was in March.sinking 1 submarine, not 30, docked in a port since 1995 is hardly "MUH SUBS ARE USELESS IN COMABT AGAINST MUH CARREIRS".
>>65455458Chinese carriers mogs American carriers
>>65456078oh yeah?! how many wheel do chinks carriers got??
>>65456065>the CVW stopped bombing the submarines because I said so! Right... 5th fleet and CENTCOM have both stated all submarines have been destroyed, and released video of more than one of their sinkings, and the destruction of all of their port infrastructure. But keep coping. Do you have even one picture of a currently functional Iranian submarine? Because otherwise I'm the only person who has provided any confirming information to back their claim.
>>65456078no, they don't lol.
>>65455417Retard spotted
>>65456078Implessive
>>65455351It’s easier to fuck something than to unfuck something
>>65455351I remember that exercise. The USN wasn't allowed to search for the AIP sub while it was recharging every night and the whole thing took multiple days.
>>65455458I find it funny whenever people try to spin "China bad" into a thread completely unrelated.
>>65455351Was this before or after they retired the S-3?
>>65455458I have no doubt that if a war went hot between the US and China that the USN attack sub fleet would wreak havoc on PLANs surface fleet and probably sink all carriers in a matter of weeks. USN might lose a carrier or two but you can't make an omlette without cracking a few eggs.
>>65456078 LOL only 3 emals.
Think the j35 can be launched off the ski ramp carrier?
Why is this low-quality spam thread still up?
>>65456111>checkedYou aren't gonna get a response because there are about a billion different excuses turdies will pull out of their asses for why American carriers are both obsolete but still able to eradicate enemy navies with a flawless record. Ranging from the tried and true "muh peer to peer" and running the gamut all the way to apparently not counting unless the opposition is allowed to get a free hit in first before getting btfo. Iran is still coping that getting caught with their pants down and blown up before leaving port doesn't count because they weren't ready/in position or some shit. The concept of wargames broke their minds, they believe they ate actually competitions and America loses because it is outskilled. They view them as top secret leaked playbooks rather than a helpful guide of "shit that won't work anymore"
>>654553515.45 rounds are more cheaper then light infantry Let that sink in for a moment y'all
>>65455614Use "Thanks" instead of "thx", thanks.
>>65456015Yes. Swedish, norwegian and German subs have repeatedly deminstrated that modern SSKs can threaten carriers.>>65456048It has more to do with the restricted area in which the excercise is held, CVNs would obviously just avoid the area where SSKs operate.But it still serves as a reminder that there are only two types of ships: Submarines and targets.
>>65456792>plane is bananwhen will puccia import this?
>>65457470Rent free
>>65456785That "carrier" has 0 EMALS.
>>65457696And?
>>65456711Just desserts after incessant chinkshilling every single time anything chinese gets talked about.
>>65455351remember when some guy swarmed the US Navy with motorboats in some wargame?boy - we're really fucked if we battle Iran, huh?
>>65458478Hormuz status?
>>65459061Plugged, like your ass. Enjoy the no external trade, Iranny.
>>65456711>>65456078>USN Carriers will be sunk by subs!>Same technique can be used against PLAN carriers>Chinkshills deflect
LOL chinese subs.
>WW2 hulls that can be sunk in seconds by missiles that are cheaper than your boats meant to take hits which means means that China will simultaneously overwhelm the US with boats but also take out every boat the US has with missilesThis must be that magic Quantum Chinese technology they always talk about
>>65459069>/k/ranny can't stop fantasizing about homosexual actsPottery
"Drones, small boats and USVs, and ballistic missiles will overwhelm a carrier task force"And actual battle damage to a CVN or any American ship taken has been...
>>65459222Putting it in terms you thirdies will understand. Ass is plugged. No cock will enter, but you will always remain full of shit.
>>65459231>faggot explains the situation in terms he is most familiar withAs expected from a NAFO troon
>>65455867You mean Indian crew
>>65459494I wasn't aware the US Navy had been hiring Jeets en masse. But given your toilets are always out of order I'm sure they'd feel right at home.
>>65455417Carriers is hard job. Usually deployment are for to being 60-90 day. But last time was for being 296 days. And sometime fighting with other carrier people and much bad food.
Swedish subs are world class but I have a hunch that the exercise had somewhat unrealistic constraints/settings.
>>65459709Swedish subs are indeed world class, for baltic operations. They have never been meant to operate anywhere else
Ahh, the good old third wold argument that bullets are cheaper then humans so we should just get rid of all humans in our military.
>>65458099And nothing, I was correcting anon's mistaken claim.
>>65459681>Carriers is hard jobYou mean being part of a carrier crew is a hard job? Go back to Rèddit
>>65460571haha newfag doesn't get the inside joke.
>>65455351I remember this exercise. Some kind of VERY LIMITED endurance sub designed for coastal defense. Snuck in very slowly and managed a kill in the exercise.
>>65460623>tranime avatarGo back
>>65460670anime website, GTFO newfag.
>>65455357>>>/news/
>>65455458are you worried?
>>65455516>and its entire accompanying group
Jannies need to do their jobs and deal with a spam thread being drip-fed bumps to keep it alive as long as possible.
>>65461070>tranny tourist calling anybody else a newfagWeapons board, boy. >>>/lgbt/ is that'a'way , (You) hear?
>>65461144I bumped the thread because I'm interested in subs vs carriersI was wondering about small autonomous unmanned subs earlier when I read this post >>65456023>The result will be a functional torpedo that can drive itself to wherever you want, maybe 1000km away. Or a torpedo boat that sits under the water with 2-4 torpedos, and fires, then returns home.
>>65461173>>https://www.autonocion.com/us/pentagon-submarine-turkey-drone-torpedoes/
>>65461147>n-noooo tranime!!!anime website, nigger, now fuck off.
>>65455417No. No its not like there is a new class or anything... and of course carriers operate completely in isolation, so changes in other surface ships, subs or naval aviation units that have happened have no impact.>>65455445>i believe that sweden only has diesel subs which are really quiet. Why does that count in your favor? You are right, it was disel-electric subs. But they were not acting in some unexpected way, this was exactly the thing they were built for. >>65455478>the US borrowed it for a year after the exercise to gather sonar data on it. I wonder how well that knowledge has been maintained. Like that is the real issue here.>>65455645Put it at the bottom of the sea.
>>65461354The sonar data will be in storage somewhere, who knows if sonar operators sitting around listening to old sonar recordings isn't manly enough for the WARRIOR ETHOS navy.
