>be me>ceo USFA>have a proud company that made many famous guns>nothing noteworthy or exeptional>itjustworks.mp3>decide to smoke some of that sweet mary jane one night>decide to design your next product then and there>smokes mary jane and gets to work designing my magnum opus>"yoooo, what if we made a gun that was like. SUPER dangerous to the user...">5 days of design and manufacturing later>"We at USFA are proud to present this abbysmal, piece of dogshit, known as the Zip 22!">"Load it by pumping the barrel." (prone to jamming)>"Hold it in the comfort of your hand." (shity grip that makes you want to amputate it)>"So safe that you could leave it loaded on a table, and an infant* wouldn't be able to fire it!" (*Infants refer to everyone over the age of 0)>release the Zip 22 to store shelves>is so horrendously terrible that you're more likely to shot yourself instead of your opps>mfw the gun i designed while high doesn't sell well>tfw the Zip 22 makes your company bankrupt overnight
For me it's the Pistola PRESSIN, dangerous to everyone
>>65456038>>65456038>ceo USFAWhich he didn't earn; he just inherited his father's company when his father died.>have a proud company that made many famous gunsThat company hadn't designed anything, just made reproduction revolvers.>tfw the Zip 22 makes your company bankrupt overnightIn order to finance all the research and development that went into the new design, he sold all the tooling required to make the guns that brought in money.
>>65456038i refuse to believe this was designed on weedno way it wasnt LSD or meth
>>65456089did he do this on purpose or was he retarded?
>>65456245Yes
Op forgot the best partIt was marketed as a maiming device without explaining that mounting it this way without proper tyrannical approval is a federal felony
>>65456089>That company hadn't designed anythingI think they worked up a .410 Bore/.45 Colt version of the Single Action Army. That's technically a bit of designing.
>>65456278Based.
>>65456278wtf i love the zip22 now
My favorite is the Cobray company:Slam fire single shot shotgun that is painful to shoot, misfires all the time and looks like a homemade plumbing gunStreet Sweeper an awful double action revolver shotgun, slow to reload and fire, painful, ugly, banned by the NFA and the advertisement has an SS lightning bolt and says “it’s a jungle out there” *wink wink*Ladies Home Companion a gun with a name like a vibrator designed for women to carry or keep at home perhaps- it’s a 9lb double action revolver that shoots 45-70 or 410 shotgun rounds
>>65456278>grip requires you to ignore trigger disciplineIncredible.
>>65456278I didn't know its a felony
>>65456470Don't forget their shitty derringers.But IIRC Cobray used to also make M11/9 parts. This was back in the days when making your guns at home wasn't controversial, before that dumbfuck Cody Wilson started taunting politicians about it and getting it banned in multiple states.
The stock is kino.
>>65456702Literally only good as a deactivated prop gun
>>65456600It is now a rifle with a short barrel.
>>65456038>>65456089>>65456245The story goes is that he was going through a nasty divorce and purposefully crashed USFA with no survivors to deny any of it to his gold digging ex. Not sure if true, but it's the best explanation I've heard so far.
>>65456739Retardation is rarely so intentional.
>>65456038>"alright, what if we put a smaller, shittier gun on a bigger gun">"but make it dangerous and awkward to use">"and then give it a really stupid name">"zippy gun, or something"
>>65456855>"Why would you CHOOSE to be gay?"
>>65456245I always thought he was retarded. His father built a great company, and he tried to expand despite not knowing anything.
>>65456658>before that dumbfuck Cody Wilson started taunting politiciansPoliticians were trying to ban homemade guns (which they called "ghost guns") before anyone had ever heard of Cody.
Zip guns actually ate going for over $500 on gunbroker now.
>>65457097Collectors are the very definition of a Fool and his Money.The fuck was the use case for this gun? Kneeling on lamb necks and delivering an awkward coup de grace?
>>65457097They’re collectible now. Literally only because they’re such a notable fucking failure and only by those that know that. Like me. I’ve actually been looking to grab one. I wish I had the foresight to realize back when I saw them sold brand new.
>>65456592tbf that fucking staplegun trigger isn't easy to pull so it's probably (somewhat) safe.>>65456600Zip-22 is a pistol.Rifle has a stock.Attaching the Zip-22 to the rifle means the pistol now has a stock, and it's not going to have enough overall length to not be an SBR.We'll see where the whole SBR thing is going though.
>>65457104Agreed. My dealer is sitting on a zip and a .45 double tap, just because retards will pay for them. He recently sold a 9mm double tap he kept NIB for years for like $550.
>>65456044>gee I hope this thing is pointing the right way>here I go!
>>65457107If you're going to collect some weird useless 22 then get an ounce pistol, at least it works despite being hk g11 levels of complicated inside.
>>65457097They are interesting for how retarded and unique they are, and how a really high quality cowboy revolver company was sacrificed to make... that absurd piece of shit.It's a bit like how really shitty movies or games can have a certain enjoyment value to them, something that sucks especially bad and in odd ways that may defy reason. Something that isn't just subpar or kinda bad, but unusually and remarkably bad.>>65456739I have heard that story, but I have no idea if it's true.>>65457104>The fuck was the use case for this gun?Those people aren't buying it for any actual use case, they buy it because it's interesting and they can afford to spend money on it. They'll shoot the thing a couple of times to see for themselves just how awful it is, laugh at the novel suckage, and then put it away. Maybe they'll sell it on later.If I had a lot of expendable income, I'd love to buy one and put it in a display next to a USFA Rodeo or something, just because it's a funny and tragic contrast. I'd shoot the Rodeo a lot though, they are quite nice revolvers.
>>65457389The engineering in these are impressive, but MAN do I struggle to see why anyone would want one for anything but novelty.If I wanted a small and light pocket .22 which held 10rds, I'd buy one of these for half the price, it'd be a far more useful (and durable) gun.
>>65456038As much as it is a perpetual meme since its inception, have there been guns similar in aesthetics that aren't total dogshit?
>>65457389I want one of those too
>>65457389I already did.
>>65457411There's nothing else that I can think of which looks much like it. It's a very unique idea for a gun, and unique in all the wrong ways, including its shape and ergonomics.>>65457414They're still in business I think, though that may not last. They want $800 for those fucking things, which might drop suddenly if they were to go out of business and sold them off to cover debt, but they're so goddamn weird and interesting that they'll surely climb above that in not that much time.
>>65457427nta but yeah these things are so fucking bizarre i dont care if its even a functioning one, i want one made with clear transparent plastic or something just to see the action work. how the fuck did they figure that one out.
>>65456038Functionally, it's cool, i sure as fucking fuck wouldn't pay $400 for one. I could redesign this to not be a total piece of shit. I'd take the plastic away and make it a 2 piece hot chamber die cast ZAMAK 5 frame, redesign the charging handle to be a pinch and pull non reciprocating, and make the slide out of the same material as the slide.
>>65458224A clear plastic one would actually be cool as fuck.
Back in 2013 I ran a laser CNC machine and made parts for that damn thing, I personally have a hand in its existence lol
>>65459136This part I remember most:
>>65459136Oh, you worked at USFA, or did he contract these things out?
>>65459419Contracted out. I worked for a place called Fedtec. A lot of gun companies subcontract parts, like one temp job I had was deburring DPMS bolts, which was also at another "literally who?" dump of a shop.
>>65459419>>65459946Need to add, he contracted those parts, where the other parts to the gun were made I don't know. They'll subcontract anything if it means not buying the necessary machinery or material. There's gun companies that exist that don't even actually produce guns.
>>65456038It's pretty dumb but I do see what they were kinda going for with an extremely modular gun. I just wish the idea was attempted again really.
>The average Zip 22 user
>>65456739If that's true, it's the second best divorce fuck you I've seen. The first was my neighbor, a drunk Irishman who went full Belfast and blew up his goddamn house he built himself so his wife wouldn't get it. I'm 100% serious. Makes me wonder if I shouldn't have given him all those Wolftones LPs I found.
>>65456739>>65460028Shame for the people who lost their jobs and the customers who lost their product support.All to spite an ex.
>>65460043I'm sure they're happy to sacrifice in the battle against the foids.
>>65459946>I worked for a place called Fedtec.
>>65460064I'd gladly condemn Doug Donnelly to an unhappy marriage with a shrew in return for continued Rodeo revolver production, I think that's a very fair exchange.
