Wouldn't it make sense to get teenagers interested in drones and FPV so we have a pool of competent pilots to pick from in the inevitable global war?
>>65463040I've been into drones since they were called model RC aircraft and long before we had sim cards and satellite navigation. Maybe if the FAA eased up it's licensing people might be more interested? Just a thought.
>>65463056The FAA boomer rules need to be changed for sure>you must have a spotter>you must maintain LOS with the drone no goggles allowed>if you go behind a tree that's illegal>you need an $80 dollar a year AMA membership and also pay another $100 fee to fly at the local field>you need another $150 dollars a year to registed your drones>DJI is banned so no care refresh for your Avata>oh and we're tariffing all the parts for your 5inch freestyle quadwhole thing is fucked
>>65463056>>65463073They 100% need to make the spotter thing a recomendation and not a hard rule. It's difficult enough finding a spotter (chaircuck) to sit while you fly. And women are useless as spotters.>huh, where'd it go?>uhh I lost it... oh! there it is... I think>woww look at it goo!!>umm can I just read while you do this...>actually, Chad just called me... he needs help studying... anyway good luck with the drone thing anon >few minutes later>SIR WHAT ARE YOU DOING?>YOU CAN'T FLY HERE, CITY ORDINANCE>YOU CAN'T FLY THERE EITHER, IT'S A NATIONAL PARK>*takes your drone*>get fucked Timmy
>>65463073I find it kinda funny that their idea of regulating drones is pretty similar to post-modern gun control, wherein you try to regulate those who want to abide the rules under the guise of protecting people from others who will never care about the rules in the first place. Good thing the feds are actively undermining their own credibility, I guess. Maybe one day they'll wake up and realize this shit only makes trying to do commercial work with UAVs obnoxious.
>>65463040Because Trump and Kegsbreath >:(
>>65463040>Why can't America into dronesFalse premise. >>65463294How? Be specific.
>>65463297You're a MIGAt zigger
>>65463299So, nothing specific then?
>>65463297Hegseth just ordered the Army's drone unit shut down in favor of DOING PLANKS AND BURPEES WARRIOR CULTURE GET SUM TATS AND TEST RRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH.
wasn't there like the whole job sector during Obama's presidency dedicated to bombing ragheads with drones? albeit they were "contractors" not affiliated with any armed forces
>>65463307>Hegseth just ordered the Army's drone unit shut down in favor of DOING PLANKS AND BURPEES WARRIOR CULTURE GET SUM TATS AND TEST RRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH.No. The 3-504 PIR completed its conversion and training into a Unmanned Assault Battalion, which is an experimental unit. Its now going to participate in Operation Saber Junction, and then the results of the experiment will be submitted to the Army for evaluation. This is all happening under the Army's Transformation in Contact (TiC) initiative. Implementation and rollout of drones, and doctrine changes are continuing as planned under the broader Army Transformation Initiate (of which TiC is the operational testing aspect). I think the problem here is that (1) you're of middling intelligence, (2) you don't read and thus (3) you got oneshotted by a journalist.
>>65463040America can't into small expendable drones because they're not explicitly designed bilk the government out of trillions over decades of ludicrously expensive maintenance, refurb, and life extension programs.
>>65463345And yet America would wipe Ukraine from the map in a week. Most curious.
>>65463073>>65463094Maybe if retards would stop flying them during wildfires. Then again, even with the regs and TFRs, they're still doing it, like retards. New plan, behead retards who violate Wildfire TFRs. Canonize those who violate Disney's TFRs.
>>65463346The US can't even deal with Iran or the Houthis and both straits are still closed
>>65463040Because boomers at the DoD somehow think we'll do better than the IDF when facing cheap drones
>>65463365Be gone brownoid, Caucasians are speaking.
>>65463369>okay sure the IDF has total operational control and freedom of movement>and dominates the battle-space >but we are able to occasionally inflict casualties on them so HA!
>>65463378IDF's advances were halted due to these losses and had to resort to terror bombing civilian infrastructure just like the Russians.
>>65463386>IDF's advances were haltedNope, been a slow-roll from the start interrupted by cease fires. They push up a valley, stop to clear it out, stop for a cease fire, and then keep pushing when either side inevitably breaks it. In terms of objectives, they have cleared a 10km buffer along the entire border, cleared east of the Wadi Saluki as well as Bint Jbeil which were two Hezbolla strongholds and have taken, and held, key high-ground (Beaufort Ridge and Wadi al-Saluki) which allows them to dominate the approaches towards Metula and Galilee Panhandle thereby creating a cordon sanitaire around Northern Israel and extending their kill-chains deep into Lebanon. They have done all this for 40 KIA while Hezbollah losses are estimated to be in the low thousands. wow drones.
>>65463317>Implementation and rollout of drones, and doctrine changes are continuing as planned under the broader Army Transformation Initiate (of which TiC is the operational testing aspect).Das right, we need time to protract the process at least another decade and inflate the cost 100x
>>65463396>40 KIASo trve, just like only 18 dead in Iran right now. Big beeb confirmed
>>65463378>the IDF has total operational control and freedom of movementThey can't push anywhere because tanks keep getting fucked up by drones, like what happened to the Russians>and dominates the battle-spaceBogged down in urban combat>but we are able to occasionally inflict casualties on them so HA!Israel expected to steamroll the brown poverty people with heavy armor but it's not going to plan. Maybe starting a two front war wasn't such a hot idea.
>>65463543Their numbers are accurate. Issue is a lot more wounded in addition to that.
>>65463543>my emotional support 3rd world country just leaves their wounded out in the field to die>That means every country does the same
>>65463538>nooo you cant just hekkin run a comprehensive assesment process>the same process that has resulted in the US .mil being the best equipped in the world >>65463543>>65463570Cope.
>>65463056This, the FAA literally shut down commercial quads then dropped the most heinous regulations. >just invest thousands of dollars and PROVE to us you have complete control plus multiple other staff>oh some faggot ultralight cruises in? crash your shit into the ground or get buttfucked in federal prison>too tough? here have a freedom zone. that will be $200/year plus tip plus tax
>>65463040MIC says no.
>>65463317DoD needs to figure out how to make 3d printed frames and Chinese motors cost 50k a pop, but once they do, we'll make sure every infantry platoon gets a generous 2 FPVs per fiscal year (nobody 2404s them and instead of teaching the whole platoon it'll be three mentally checked out E-5s who use the range day to sham instead of doing anything practical lol).
>>65463375Failing to acknowledge your failure turns you into Ziggerland V2.
>>65463040Drones are easy to fly. It would take the average American teenager like 30 minutes to be able to properly fly an fpv drone.
>>65463040>what is the switchbladewe had FPVs drones before everyonethe thing is a proper air force is still superior
>>65464981Boot up liftoff and try to fly through the barn window on the first map in 30 minutes
>>65464986The switchblade is a relatively speaking very expensive drone in the "loitering munitions" category, not one of the relatively cheap quadcopters that are usually labelled FPV drones. (I don't even think the Switchblade has FPV controls, but I won't bet the house on it. It's likely more of a "point out your target on the computer screen and click attack, the drone then does the rets on its own". )Now this isn't to say that it's bad or that you'd rather have the FPV drones. It's a different tool, doing things in a somewhat different way. So it won't really fill the FPV drone role, but that isn't to say it's bad. What you want is both FPV drones and loitering munitions like the Switchblade in your arsenal.
>>65464986Yes, but you still need to know how to use it. Infantry without drones is objectively last gen.
>>65464986>we had FPVs drones before everyoneyeah but they sucked
>>65463040soon drones will be autonomous so no pilot needed. flying a drone is piss easy, specially military fpv ones that fly slow and steady they arent running races. anyone who played video games can learn with 12 hours of simulatorif your talking about building and maintaining them its simple electronic repair stuff nothing special. you can teach any soldier to do that no need to have anything special i still think its cool hobby
>>65464980>Failing to acknowledge your failurewhat failure?
>>65463040Drones are easy to pilot. The software does everything for you, you need maybe 10 minutes instruction to learn how to fly a drone into a moving target, and that's honestly high balling it. All those reports of Russia and Ukraine having drone programs for schoolchildren so that they can pick ace pilots in the future is just propaganda nonsense.
>>65465035>soon drones will be autonomous so no pilot needed.Not good enough yet, and there will still be times you need human intervention/manual control. Think optical illusion traps>flying a drone is piss easy, specially military fpv ones that fly slow and steady they arent running races. anyone who played video games can learn with 12 hours of simulatorAgree it's easy to learn, but skill ceiling is extremely high. Basic flying is like 10 hours agreed, navigating low through trees in high wind and not getting the fiber optic tangled up is a skill>if your talking about building and maintaining them its simple electronic repair stuff nothing special.We need gallium>you can teach any soldier to do that no need to have anything specialI'm sure you can teach Da'Quan throttle control with enough practice, but wouldn't it be good if we just had really good fpv pilots lying around? Hobbyists already with 500+ hours and an intuitive sense of flight who can teach others easily and just be plopped into a squad. There have to be at least few of them that are in every highschool, no?
>>65465042>Drones are easy to pilot. The software does everything for youYou need GPS satellites for stabilization, and you can't always do that, either because of jamming or because it would give away the position of the operator. So you need to fly manual, which is like a helicopter, you need constant inputs
>>65463040False premise. The United States heavily invested into drones.
>>65463040No offense but if retarded slav monkeys can develop a decent mastery of drones in such a short amount of time, westerners will have no problem if the need ever arises
>>65465067drones can use accelerometer, compass, magnetometer etc. for stabilization o algo
>>65465073Costs money
>>65463073Funny how many problems would be solved if we just killed all the boomers.
>>65465075boldly they droned, and wellin to the jaws of death, into the mouth of helldroned the six hundred
>>65465075Roughly a million russoids have died at this point, on year 5 of the 3-day SMO.
>>65465075Thats low for the highest profile drone unit.
>>65463040who do you think designed all of ukraine's drones? Are you one of those retarded thirdies who believes they just made them in a cave out of scraps? the CIA literally held their hands and taught them how.
>>65463040>why [false premise loaded question]why do thirdies make threads where they lie like this?
>>65463307wrong.a unit that was solely made to learn about drone warfare in ukraine was disbanded because it had done it's job. it was never part of intergrating drones directly into the US forces.this is an article you only read the headline of and keep spamming about because you are retarded and have mental illness.
>>65465435because it baits you
>>65463538>retarded opinion gets corrected>squeel *HMMPFFF* like the ugliest most pathetic tsundere and whine about something elsehow about you just shut the fuck up instead.
>>65463369>b-but what about the handful of clips i have!implessive, but not very good at proving your point. since the side spamming that footage is losing badly.
>>65465449That's not even me, you schizo cuck. Get a grip.
>>65465073>o algoretarded zoomer word.
>>65465040Strait status?
>>65465453what's israel winning?
>>65465447>h-haha you called me retarded because i was acting like a retard!>y-you got baited!lol.this was pathetic in 2006 and is pathetic now, you faggots have never been anything other than losers for doing this, the people calling you a retard are getting far more satisfaction out of the interaction than you are gaslighting yourself into thinking that pretending to be a retard is trolling.
>>65465457you do, yes, this retarded shill thread has no reason to exist.
>>65465470You're malding and typing way more than me though
>>65465477>b-but you used more words than me>i-i don't know how to use big wordlol, i just have a way faster wpm than you and it takes me less effort to write something because i have higher IQ, simple as.
>>65465476Yes it does retard, the boomer FAA needs to let me fly my quads. And fuck you in the ass
>>65465488>redditor idioms that don't have any basis in realitylol, i can do you one better. "the lie can get halfway around the world before the truth gets it's boots on"describing your pathological behaviour in detail (so as to cause maximum seething in you) requires a little bit more text than your simplistic attempts at pretending to be smug and calling me names.you get upset at me because something that takes me 30 seconds to think up and write takes you 3 minutes to read and process, you have a slow brain lol.
>>65463073>no care refresh for may avataGod damnit
>>65465464>Strait status?lmao. Your definition of victory is apparently “can Iran still fuck with boats in the one 20-mile-wide chokepoint geography handed them?”Supreme Leader: dead.Senior military leadership: decapitated.Air defenses/C2: repeatedly cratered.Missile, drone and naval infrastructure: repeatedly bombed.Iranian airspace: penetrated at will for months.Economy: getting strangled.Iran: currently bargaining over the terms under which normal shipping comes back.But yes, they can still shoot missiles at tankers in a bathtub-sized chokepoint off their own coastline, therefore Tehran has apparently conquered Washington.Absolute strategic-analysis-by-extra-chromosome.
>>65465528>b-but i posted a wojak!!!!nice reddit meme, thank you for further humiliating yourself lmao.
>>65465067>You need GPS satellites for stabilizationYou have no idea what you're talking about. GPS for stabilization? What is this gibberish? Drones fly like UFOs, you don't need to do anything, it's like playing on arcade mode on World of Planes with a controller. Every drone has little cheap accelerometers that cost $1 each that will keep a drone stable even after you tell it to do something stupid like do a flip 100 times in a row.
>>65465551Yes, GPS stops the drone from flying away in the wind. Have you never flown a DJI drone? What do you think it's doing when it connects 15+ satellites??
>>65465549>B-BUT I HAVE A WHOLE ALBUM OF REDDIT MEMES!>I-I'M GOING TO USE THEM!!!i'm sure you will, angry and upset brownoid, i just don't care lol.thank you for outing yourself as a tourist though, very amusing watching you go through all the different stages of denial in real time.
>>65465557>GPS stops the drone from flying away in the windOnly a problem if you're trying to keep a drone perfectly stationary in mid-air. Which isn't relevant for any military purpose. Whether you're doing recon or chasing a truck, GPS tracking isn't going to help.
>>65465571>Only a problem if you're trying to keep a drone perfectly stationary in mid-air. Which isn't relevant for any military purpose.What a retarded fucking statement holy shit
>>65465566>N-NOOOOO YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT I'M WRITING LESS, THAT MEANS I'M WINNING!i'm sure in your mind, you are, brownoid tourist-san.>b-but on reddit that's how they told me who wins!you already lost when you pretended to be a retard lmao.>baitingby humiliating yourself is just humiliating yourself, nothing more, nothing less.i accept your concession that you are too slow and retarded to do anything other than screech>n-nooo i don't care look at how smug and unbothered i am!!!doubling down on that tactic has never worked out for you guys lol.
>>65465571Okay but you still need a competent pilot, it costs money to train pilots, fancy sensors cost money. Logically, the best thing we can do is fly cheap drones and have many pilots who can fly them competently. You can either train the pilots, or create social incentives and an environment where they can enlist pre-trained
>>65465575Well, given you haven't said anything, I can only assume any example you're furiously thinking up in your head right now are going to be incredibly stupid. But do go on.
>>65465591Ah yes, the incredible costs of telling giving a random soldier 10 minutes of instruction, truly back-breaking.
>>65465566>>65465549>>65465528>>65465488lol retarded nogunz tourist./qa/ lost, you're not welcome here.
>>65465592Drones flying stationary and observing can be extremely useful for the military, it seems obvious for multiple reasons, maintaining a hidden profile while monitoring one position, saving battery life on the flight, just handwaving it is crazy
>>65465611You can't fly an FPV drone in 10 minutes, it's not a gimballed camera drone. It requires constant inputs like a mini-helicopter. It takes a few hours at least to become decent. You don't know what you're talking about.
>.>65465615Are you still replying to me? Get a grip faggot. And thanks for the (You)s sucka
>>65465530Sorry goy. But don't worry, the FCC will take that DJI crap off your hands and soon you'll be able to by a Skydio 3 for $5000 dollars. Make sure to subscribe to Skydio Maestro™ for a biannual paymeny of $699 per year for all your drone repairs! MAGA!!
>>65465644>n-nooo everyone's a fucking loser like me!nope.
>>65465625Nonsense, those "constant inputs" are just you telling it the direction you want it to move and then compensating for any errors. They're even easier than an RC plane, and the only reason those can be considered hard is the landing, which FPV drones have zero problems with.
>>65466771Are you describing a DJI mini? Because first time flying a nazgul evoque or 5 inch quad usually goes like this:>liftoff>pitch forward>okay let's turn>yaw left>plane keeps moving forward wtf>okay roll left>rolled too much, have to correct>wind fucked me up>I'm heading towards a tree now>fuck I'm moving too fast>pitch back>overcorrect>hit somethingYou can never take your thumb off the throttle because it needs constant microcorrection. In about an hour or two, you can learn learn basic flying, like navigating a field without trees, with low wind. If you want any kind of precision flight, flying through a bunker window, flying to hit a specific weak point in a tank, landing on a branch, turning off the motor, and going stealth, etc, you need practice. Americans are retarded, because they would rather spend $25k per drone to be equipped with rare-earth laden sensors, rather than just telling teenagers to build skill on their own time with $100 quads.
>>65465571>Which isn't relevant for any military purpose.it is if you want a decent signal transmitting from a relay drone. Then again, that can be mitigated by strapping a MFD crossbow antenna tracker on an X-class to enjoy full antenna stabilization.
>>65463040Nope, sorry we need to ban da drones le Chinese are spying through them T.biden and trump
