>>65465600
What else they need other than meat that hauls itself to the front?

>>65465600
no, but they'll try it anyway because they are a suicidal deathcult.

>>65465619
In order to make it to Kyiv after failing last time? A lot.

>>65465600
Would you believe: no?

I was surprised when the projected approach vectors were just directly over the Russia/Ukraine border and not yet another flanking move through Belarus. Seems the first considered Russian move in ages that wouldn't directly escalate the war.

>>6546560
Lol they're just gonna get droned to hell. I for one hope we get more convoys of abandoned Russian vehicles

Ukraine is stronger militarily than it was in 2022.

>>65465600
retarded slaves

>>65465600

all they need is to throw meat at it and they will make progress.

russian lives are worthless, putin can always round up more meat.

>>65465821
>russia is stronger now than in 2022
New level of bait unlocked.

Attempting to breach a defensive line built up over four years using infantry lacking armored support or field artillery seems like an efficient form of slaughter.

oh my god, they're not even going to try to encircle the fortress belt? are they really this retarded?

>>65465600
inb4 contemporary version of the Brusilov Offensive
>front moves forward a bit
>at least one significant city is captured simply by virtue of being behind the new front line (maybe Chernihiv or Sumy)
>morale bump to the Russians
>but at a cost of a heavily skewed casualty ratio that wipes out all manpower gains from upcoming September mobilization
>huge materiel losses for Russia
>gigantic irrepairable strain on Russian logistics
>a truly shitty winter for Russia with fuel shortages and discontent amongst civilians as the reality of war starts to settle in
>all in time for the 110th anniversary of the Revolution in 2027
History often repeats itself, first as tragedy and then as farce.

>>65465619
>first we got 40km long traffic jams of military vehicles
>now we get 40km of mobiks falling out on the march before they even reach drone range

>>65465867
Bold of you to think that could happen. No fucking way the Russians will be able to concentrate the forces for a large scale offensive without boris johnson personally directing storm shadows that cause at least one more torpets schizo meltie from the sheer scale of damage. Seriously how well do you think air defense will protect massed forces?

>>65465821
>vdv extinct
>spetsnaz extinct
>naval infantry extinct
>anybody trained has been droned
>everybody who was trained to train others has been droned
>all armor newer than 1980 sent into orbit
>most armor newer than 1960 sent into orbit
>all flightworth AWACs airframes destroyed
>all ka-52 destroyed
>flagship sunk
>two submarines sunk
>all naval missile launching capabilities destroyed or damaged
>air defense on ICUN red list
>no su-57
>no t-14
>no logistics
>no washing machines
>no bitches
are you sure about that?

>Try this in 2022 and fail
>Try again four years later, but this time with all your modern equipment and professional soldiers gone, against a much stronger and actually prepared Ukraine
What could possibly go wrong?

>>65465922
See: >>65465918

>>65465867
>>at least one significant city is captured simply by virtue of being behind the new front line
That's nonsense, frontlines move when cities fall, not the other way around.

>>65465867
Just imagine what we could see this winter:
>door-to-door pressganging since everyone is stuck inside
>Russian assaults falling to hypothermia before contact is made
>infiltrators losing body parts as they slowly freeze to death in basements
>Russia cities choked in acrid smoke not from Ukrainians strikes but from its citizens burning anything flammable to stave off the cold
>a thriving market for human meat as cannibalism grows in popularity among civilians

>>65465824
NTA, but unfortunately he's right in some places.
Because they've got 4.5 years of solid warfighting and war-manufacturing experience now, they do actually have some capacities. Particularly in proper use of drone warfare, but also steps in others.
As much as they've lost a fuckton of legacy men and material, if they were the same shitty, hopelessly corrupt paper tiger they were when they started, they'd be flattened by now.

Fortunately for human decency, this process of development of skills and capacities also exists for Ukraine, who's getting periodic support from NATO, so ultimately they're developing at similar rates, and Russia will still lose the war.

>>65465600
>Ground offensive on Kyiv
The thing is I trust Ukraine's intelligence since they seem to be pretty accurate at predicting Russia's monging all things considered, but that is such a retarded idea by the Russians it makes me wonder if it's one born out of complete desperation.
>Does Russia have the right weapons
No lol

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>>65465982
so, by your reckoning:
>a trained, professional fighting force is cope
>a healthy, sustained cadre of instructors is cope
>material reserves are cope
>lines of communication are cope
>command and control is cope
>close air support is cope
>shore bombardment is cope
>strategic bombardment is cope
>air superiority is cope
>development is cope
>procurement is cope
any other copes i'm leaving out?

>>65465922
>>65465963
The entire soviet armor stockpile is gone, the spetsnaz and VDV have been effectively wiped out, and half of their air assets are degraded. Their frontline commanders misreport gains and their general staff have no idea what's going on. This has to be a joke

>>65466013
Accepting that russia has lost hugely big time is not exclusive to accepting that they've gained in some fields.

Are they stronger than in 2022? No. The modern russian army would die even harder to an air campaign than a 2022 one would. Are they stronger in a number of respects? Yes.

If Russia can actually pull this off, I can go back to enjoying 80s movies like red dawn and iron eagle ii
I haven't been able to watch those movies and take them seriously since Russia fumbled so hard

>>65466061
Yeah, sure, and a WW1 biplane is stronger in a number of respects compared to an F-35. Small details do not negate the big picture. In many ways their worst weaknesses (particularly command structure) have gotten worse.

>>65465600
idk go ask them

>>65466061
>Yes
Also no.

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>>65465821
>so is Russia

>>65465600
They've scaled up ballistic missile production (not by much but they are definitely making more now than they did at the start of the war) and produce a lot of drones but I dont see any way past the intractability of the front line for them especially with the massively degraded state of the infantry and armoured forces

>>65465600
Pull it off? They certainly got the manpower. Whether they got the material and/or logistics to do it is another matter

If they did, it wouldn't have taken four fucking years.

>>65465600
they'd anywhere between 50000 and 100000 vehicles of all make and size to properly equip and taxi the rumored half million zigger wave. osint would have spotted by now large depots of armored cars, ifvs, and tanks
or even desertcross/bikes stockpiles
instead we're supposed to believe this mass of cube mince is gonna transport itself on a rac from Lyman to Robotnik and go over the top all at once to overwhelm UA defenses
nigger, please

>>65466086
>They've scaled up ballistic missile production (not by much but they are definitely making more now than they did at the start of the war

they stopped producing inaccurate types (chiefly the kinzhal) and aren't using using s300 missiles as stand off munitions

>>65465821
Russia had a massive conventional military machine pre-war, Ukraine has a small and drastically under-equipped military. Ukraine strengthened itself to Russia's level while Russia degraded itself to Ukraine's level

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>>65465600
>>65465821
>>65465913
Russia can't do it, end of story.

In theory '50K' Norks could do it assuming it was the 105th Armored division, their two supporting Mechanized Divisions and Artillery support units. The chances of Putin being able to afford The Pyongyang Army Corps is almost zero, Kim would want something like a billion in gold bars and $250 million in gold per month plus expenses.

The DPRK would not do it, besides the fact that Russia couldn't hide an entire Army Group moving from Pyongyang to the Ukrainian border the Norks would get slaughtered. The Norks could do it or at least make a good attempt at it but Russia could not support their spearhead and the Norks Armored Hammer would die in vain. Even if they took the city they would be pushed out unless they had major Russian support and the Norks rightfully don't trust Russia to provide it. The DPRK will not be Putin's sacrificial pawns.

Putin can't afford to buy Kim's armored fist, especially as it would be wasted.

>>65466073
Correct especially in terms of numbers, and cost efficiency. But no one wants to have the Po-2M conversation.

>>65465600
If the 300k man mobilization happens it could be a real posibility.

>>65466105
>osint would have spotted by now large depots of armored cars, ifvs, and tanks
You are assuming it won't be civilian cars and trucks.

>>65465600
They've been performing a ground offensive on Kiev for four years and change now. I don't see why this one would be any different than last year, or the year before that, or the year before that, except that more Russians have died and there's less and less sophisticated equipment to go around. The best chance Russia had was during the opening three months of the war, their chances diminished continually from there and are now so low as to be basically a non-issue. Moreover, they're again in danger of destroying the very fabric of their society because they don't know when to stop, for the third time in a century and some change.

>>65466116
A Russia attack with 300k mobniks on foot or in civilian vehicles would win the war for Ukraine. It is exactly the sort of massacre Ukraine has been preparing to inflict.

>>65466127
Of course it will be in civilian cares and trucks, that is the problem.

>>65466129
I hope they do it, they deserve to die for their stupidity. I just hope the Norks don't commit to participating in this idiocy to a non cost effective degree.

>>65466115
My guess is he's going to pull bellorus in as well, because 50k norks is a drop in a bucket for a serious offensive.... An offensyv if you will.


Luka flew over to Moscow right after the CIA did and Tusk has recently started vaugeposting about his meeting with NATO. My best guess from the current evidence. It sounds unreasonable until you factor in that Putin could probably have Luka killed if he really wanted, and that things aren't getting better for Russia over time. Putin's doubled down every chance he's gotten so strong arming his last asset he can reasonably burn to stay afloat for a couple months.

>>65465600
Bucked and ball torture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM758oaudOs

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>>65465982
>there were no felons in 2021 but they're being actively used now
I'm pretty sure they were using prisoners as conscripts by then, lol.

>>65465982
No amount of bitchposting is going to undo the fact that Russia has completely thrown away all of the modern equipment they ever had at their command and then some, going all the way back to the 50s. Any chance they had of being a polar power died the very moment the offensive started, they're permanently relegated to 'that shithole that we have a blank check to kill people from forever' and that's not going to change.

The only question now is whether or not we can fool the chinks into making the same mistake and throwing away whatever tiny, incredibly slim sliver of a chance they might have at being relevant by doing the same thing with Taiwan.

>>65465600
Remember, it's not over until Russia dips below the 100 million number in population.

>>65466164
Rookie numbers. Its not over until Russia ceases to be a single unified polity and goes back to fighting each other to the death over the last pierogi.

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>>65465918
You know the rules, untrained, drafted infantry in the open have all got to go just like the barely trained contracted troops and there's no exceptions

>>65466071
>In many ways their worst weaknesses (particularly command structure) have gotten worse
Yes, that's correct. I wasn't saying otherwise.
>>65466080
If they hadn't changed and improved in some regards they simply wouldn't be here anymore as they'd all be dead instead of mostly dead.

>>65465821
But Russia is getting bombed near daily now, they didn’t have that in 2022.

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>>65466137
Lukashenko is too smart, mark my words he will be the one still standing when this is all over. Him and Kim will be the only ones who win from this war.

>>65466200
>/k/ope
You tourists can’t help yourselves

>>65466127
You'd still be able to notice the sudden stockpiling of civilian cars and trucks. Using 300k as the size of the Russian force and assuming a transportation average of 20 conscripts per vehicle you'd need 15,000 vehicles to motorize them.

>>65466137
Luka isn't an idiot. Not only would an assassination attempt be questionable at best, Putin couldn't guarantee the loyalty of anyone in Belarus, would have millions of discontented people that would need to be kept under control, he'd be trying to open a new front along a heavily mined border, everything would be in striking range of Ukraine, and would likely piss off China something fierce considering it'd fuck with their foreign exports. Would Putin be stupid enough to try? Yeah, probably. Do I think it'd succeed? No, much less provide Russia with any benefit.

>>65466215
If I was a zigger commander with no reguard for human life I would be sending the guys in to live in occupied houses with the families until everyone of moved up then steal their car on the day of the attack.
Yes it has issues, some will be killed in their sleep by civilians, some civilians will disable their car but as I said I'm a zigger commander and don't care about the guy I just want a massed attack without the arty and drone issues that come with grouping.

>>65466203
That's so true, that's why Germany was at its strongest in 1945!

>>65465600
>Beginning of the war
>Has all the weapons that Russia has produced for the last 75 years
>Loses
>Now has no more weapons from the last 75 years
>Will russia win this time? Hurrrr

Uh, no. But that should be pretty obvious.

>>65466203
Anon, every single country that has ever engaged in war in the history of history has gotten weaker as they lose men, materiel and political wherewithal except for a tiny minority of specific nations (America, Britain, France) and only in a minority of their engagements. Britain still got their professional forces BTFOed in WW1, America eventually had to throw in the towel in Vietnam, no amount of French investment was ever going to make West Africans into actual people, so on and so forth, despite the relative dominance of those nations. Its true that the US grows stronger after entering WW2, but that's kind of an outlier, really not the norm. Even Germany started to run out of steam after a scant five years of hardened conflict between 1940 and 1945, their armed forces becoming a shell of their former selves. Russia is cooked. Stick a fork in 'em, they're done.

>>65466200
Anon, they're still fighting the last set of wars, using equipment from the last set of wars. You're looking at the relative dominance of drones and incorrectly determining they're now the premiere force on the battlefield, and sure, they can be intimidating, if you're a thirdie or being held back by your nation's civillian leaders during a time of peace and thus unable to simply exterminate all the people who make the drones and flatten all the warehouses that they're kept in or slag all the railroads that deliver them to the front.

The next ACTUAL wars will show that the technologies in Russia and Ukraine were obsolete before the slavs even got hold of them. Bases and logistics will be glassed from orbit using orbital fighters and weaponized satellites, no nation involved in those wars will have any intention of a fair fight or engaging their enemies in combat because it'll be the next set of wars that determines who gains control of the new globalist power, and who gets to brand accusations of terrorism on anyone who doesn't fall in line. It'll be the end of free nations and the beginning of a single global polity with one set of banks and rules. If you think the rich and powerful in the world are going to sit around and allow thirdies to toss drones around with that much money and power on the line when they have a direct need to win and can't just use the situation to their political advantage E.G. Hormuz - you have another think coming.

The truth is, it was never even a game, and slavs were never even a player. They're basically just exterminating each other on 24/7 TV for our amusement using old shit from the cold war and some RC tech from the 90s because we want them to, and for no other reason.

>>65466200
Russia and Ukraine are leading the way in cheap drones, where they are still miles behind is fighters, SAMs, missiles, subs, ships etc.

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>>65466200
Anon, do you REALLY think that the rest of the world's militaries have just been sitting idly by, twiddling their thumbs?

Drones and drone counter measures have both been a VERY big theme in the western military industrial complexes for most of this war, because everyone paying attention see both how powerful they can be, and also how they can potentially be defended against.
Every big military arms expo in the west in the last few years have had considerable amounts of displays dedicated to this.

>>65466432
Wow, we've got a live one here. He actually thinks the slavs are at the forefront of military technology, like the proper Western nations wouldn't have flatted both nations decades before either of them became any serious threat.

Dude, they're both just engaging in a mutual extermination so we can laugh about it on the internet. No slavic nation has ever really been a player on the stage of civilized warfare. Russia tries, but they've always been behind and now they're fighting other slavs to the death because we need it for our entertainment.

>>65466432
>>inb4 we had a drone exercise
FPV drones do not win wars. You win wars by bombing the enemy to death with your planes, and if you think that Russia can defeat NATO in the airspace when they can't even secure the airspace of Ukraine, then there's no brain in that mishappen skull of yours.

>>65466456
Russian missiles are good only for random terror bombing nothing else.

>>65466461
>where is our victory?
glassing Iranian civvies would have looked bad when trump explictly said he's there to save them.
No such problem with russia, civvies will be turned into pig feed by tens of millions when the real war starts.

>>65466479
Well, when russia has no longer strenght to push then it loses any threat it had remaining. Then it is just a matter of keeping russian economy in chokehold until either someone sane inherits the dirt throne, or russia collapses into civil war like it likes to do every once a while.

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>>65466486
Death is a preferable alternative to being Russian.

>>65465600
if they send again only 80 to 110k people like in 2022
no absolutely no
if they spend 400 k people yes they gonna streamroll the area

>>65466106
I hear there is a bit of a shortage of high end interceptors in Russia right now, if those ziggers were capable of self reflection they'd probably be real mad at themselves for using S300 in a ground attack role earlier in the war

For fucks sake, don't you fags ever tire of nothing ever happening?

>>65466200
>/k/ope
You browns really can't keep your mask on, can you?

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>>65466061
>Are they stronger in a number of respects? Yes.
Which ones? They're basically just copying whatever Ukraine does with regard to drones (and realistically not doing that very well), but for literally every other metric that could benefit from the obvious lessons taught by the past half decade, it seems like they've genuinely refused to learn absolutely anything and just keep pushing meat into the grinder.

>Picrelated it's basically Russia right now

>>65466070
The USSR was Russia, Ukraine and more than a dozen other countries combined and also had all of Eastern Europe as allies. The Russian Federation is like saying the midwest is the United States in a scenario where it balkanized

>>65465982
Fellas, I think this guy might be the one writing Putin's briefs

>>65466456
>Russia has figured out the fighter meta (glide bomb spam)
And only a mere 27 years after JDAM first entered service!

>>65466652
>JDAMs can fly for 20 mikes horizontally
Why are you being purposely obtuse?

>>65466465
And Western Europe would be too through thermonuclear bombardment. No one wins that scenario.

>>65466653
Why are you pretending Russia invented a capability the west has been using since the turn of the millenium? Russian JDAMS are shorter ranged, less accurate and more poorly made than their western counterparts despite being almost three entire decades late to the party

>>65465982
>outweighed by all the training
new russian meat gets one week of training at most which is completely fucking useless, retard.
>new tech
you mean bought tech, and no, it's implicitly inferior to having an actual fucking army with actual fucking army materiel, russia has been reduced to what it is now, it did not, of it's own will start employing the tactics it currently does, that was forced on it by losing all of the people that could actually execute complex orders and all the materiel to support that.

>>65466227
Will they be able to get gas for the cars they've commandeered?

>>65466200
>/k/ope
instantly outed yourself as a tourist lol. GTFO.

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>>65465600
Easy as pie. The Egg Measuring Contingency is still fully intact. Who controls Kursk, Kokhols?
Kiev will be russia soon.

>>65466200
this is cope from russians who don't want to face the reality that they are losing to ukraine and not some mega ultra hyper dreadnought version of ukraine that's totally stronger than the EU's combined forces LMAO.

>>65466653
Extended range JDAMs were first tested in Australia in 2006, with the JDAM-ER as a final product first being prototyped in 2010 and entering production a few years later. So pick a date. It can be 27, 20, 15 or 10 years behind depending on which yardstick you want to start from, keeping in mind of course that the west wasn't doing this to meet a pressing wartime need and before you could pick up most of the guts for something like this on AliExpress for under $100 if you wanted to cut corners.
And even a standard JDAM kit is considered to have range of about 28km, so if your glide kit is only adding a couple more klicks on top of that it's a pretty shithouse one.

Is Putin sitting in a bunker angrily shouting about Steinerosky or something?

>>65466276
retarded zigger talking point lol
>m-muh bothsidessame

>>65466432
no, they haven't, you're a retard.

>>65466444
weird zigger bothsidessame metoditchka lol.
>>65466456
>r-russia has figured out the fighter meta
wrong lol
>glide bomb spam
they can't use it anywhere beyond the frontline because they fucking suck at SEAD.
>leapfrogged NATO
delusional zigger level statement
>b-but the bombs are bigger
and way less accurate.
>s-still unknown
no, it's very known, patriot is significantly better than anything russian.
>i-iskander wins easily
KEEEEEK
>c-cruise missiles have been obsoleted
wrong

so many retarded opinions in one post lel.

>>65466461
>drones do bombing a lot better now
wrong, dronenigger.
>weird CIA fanfiction
ignored.

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>>65465600
Weapons?
You don't need weapons when you have meatwaves.

>>65466276
>The next ACTUAL wars will show that the technologies in Russia and Ukraine were obsolete before the slavs even got hold of them. Bases and logistics will be glassed from orbit using orbital fighters and weaponized satellites
this is what happens when you overdose on scifi slop
>>65466670
>actual fucking army with actual fucking army materiel
>noooo it's not a real weapon it don't count!!!!
peak fucking boomer. I'm guessing you also think that polymer guns and 5.56mm are for pansies

>>65466718
>f-facts
you can call them that however many times you want, my brownoid tourist friend, won't make them so
>kope
>i am a tourist exterior to this board, don't belong here, but come here to seethe at people's opinions that are worth more than mine
we know.
>>65466720
>russian JDAMS are worse
correct
>less accurate
correct again
>and poorly made
correct.
>>65466728
>b-boomer
yes, everyone who humiliated you is a boomer, sure, whatever.

>>65466739
>noooo my precious russians, jdamski so implessive!
lol thirdie
>n-no you are brown!
lol

>>65466747
and other fantasies you can tell yourself.

>>65466728
>this is what happens when you overdose on scifi slop

not actually scifi, I know we had plans to put rods from god in space, all america has done in the past 20-30 years was deploy the weird shit, the flying katana on a missile, or done more conventional fighting. we never got pushed to really show off our 'scifi' shit. I mean we had a field programmable 20mm grenade launcher what was it 10-20 years ago, that got 'killed' because it was technically a war crime because you could potentially program the grenade to go off inside someone.

that's tech from 20 years ago, and likely want the hush hush keep it secret tech from 20 years ago.

>>65465867
revolutions happen when the dear leader is perceived as weak and he is unwilling to shed unlimited bloodshed to conserve his power. Nikolai II and Gorbachev where these kind. Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Saddam etc. none of them fell because of internal discontent, no matter how insane, poor and famine like the conditions got

Monke is, personality wise, certainly closer to the latter then the former

>>65466115
oh fuck off piss boy. can't wait for the second korean war to flame up and you cry tears as your precious slave "army" is wiped across the floor like a wet rag

>>65466154
if changs had some actual spark of innovation they would instead turn their eyes towards annexing siberia. Now that monkeperium is significantly weakened and drained of potential.

Pidors like to pretend to be some unstoppable asiatic horde when they have less meat then swamp pajeets in bangladesh. Them meeting a real asiatic horde would actually be karmic justice

>>65466762
"rods from god" are scifi slop. they sound cool but they will not work. here are a few problems that I can think of:
1. they'll make a nice clean hole but fail to do any damage (like oreshnik kinetic warheads)
2. they're going to be inaccurate as fuck (like oreshnik warheads but orders of magnitude more so)
3. you need to either have a massive constellation of satellites deployed ahead of time or accept that you have to wait for your satellite's orbit to align itself with the target
rods from god make the fucking oreshnik look like an extremely practical weapon by comparison.

Ozon status? There is a lot of seethe today

>>65466770
The EU has no reason to stop giving Zelensky as much money he needs to kill as many Russians as humanly possible

In fact I wish we'd give more, preferably deployed divisions and counter-attack from other countries but c'est la vie

>>65466774
For them to be useful they would need to have a lot of mass as well and getting them into orbit wouldn't be worth the effort.

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>>65466762
>we never got pushed to really show off our 'scifi' shit
Pushing Wunderwaffels from absolute secrecy into sudden frontline deployment has not been attempted yet.

>>65466450
>FPV drones do not win wars. You win wars by bombing the enemy to death with your planes,
Boots on ground win wars, supported by planes to clear the way and countered hard by FPV drones hunting them individually and knocking out their land equipment

>>65466772
realistically, china will take over all of its non-nuclear neighbors before it comes after Russia. (idk if it would hypothetically go after Russia or India first)
also there is no need to militarily conquer Russia when you can simply become the #1 investor there.

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>>65466640
>allies
they were client slave states with dubious loyalty in actual war
>Ukraine and more than a dozen other countries combined
all serf slave states with forced russification programs (like mandatory russian in higher education and bureaucracy), forced fifth column pidor colonizer resettlements and their men conscripted into the military, then deliberately stationed as far as possible from their home country. All in the name of keeping everybody isolated and distrusting of each other as the various ethnic gangs hated each other guts and brutalized each other within the military camps
>The USSR was
the Muscovite empire with a red paint job

Time to stop coping. I get it that westerners have this fetishized version of the pidor union in their heads, closer to Red Alert 2 tier fairy tales then reality. All because they miss having an perceived equal enemy to face off. If you wanted that should not have been such seething retards back in WW2 and let the germans have their empire in mainland Europe. Now they would have given you a real run for your money in a cold war

Muscovia is a malicious imperial construct and this has been consistent throughout all of its versions. From the pidor empire to the vatnik union to current vatnik fageration

>>65466778
this is an interesting claim, let's check the math.

let's say that getting something into orbit costs about $3000 per kilogram. (I was going to say that only we can do this and thank SpaceX, but Russia's proton-M and China's long march achieve a similar price per kg, so maybe not)
not all of this will be rods from god (some of it will be the satellite) so let's say that 10% is rods from god. we are now paying $30,000 per kilogram of payload. if we can get that up to 20% then we're paying $15,000 per kilogram.

Currently Russia and Ukraine pay about $50,000 for a drone that delivers 50kg of payload to the other (whether some geran model or an FP-1). so that's $1000 per kg. if we claim that drones are shot down 90% of the time then it goes up t0 $10000 per kg. with a 95% shootdown rate it's $20000 per kg.

an iskander costs 3.5 million dollars and delivers up to 700kg, so that's a price of $5000 per kg. if 1/3 of iskanders get intercepted then it's about $7500 per kg.

So, interestingly enough, if you ignore every other disadvantage, then the cost isn't that bad.

>>65466770
The money given to Ukraine isn't even felt by the EU, meanwhile the Russian economy is in a freefall and for what? A sliver of bombed out farmland in the poorest country in Europe? Lol.

>>65466802
>Russia has had stronger economic growth than the EU, both recently and averaged over the last 10 years.
Yet it remains approx. the total size of Italy in economic terms with average salary and wealth approaching African shitholes with only state supported war economy bringing growth while its civilian sector and financials are increasingly strangled. Curious!

>>65466796
The central asian republics stayed in the USSR longer than Russia itself did.

Almost six years of war and I still wonder why would anyone still shill for Russia. Why the fuck would you simp for such an abject embarassment? Russia was supposed to slaughter and genocide Ukraine in 3 days to two weeks. It was supposed to have encircled hohols in Donetsk for something like 200 times. Ot should have already conquered the whole of Donetsk, missing something like 6 different deadlines. The Russian subhumans lose hilarious amounts of men and material daily, fighting against its poor ex-puppet nation. They act like drunk cockroaches and rabid chimps among each other. Every place they concentrate their mentally ill culture becomes shit. Their language is obsessed with man ass, cocks and homo rape.

Almost dix fucking years for the mighty Russian bear to win a war against Ukraine and fuck-all to show for it except sharty wojaks, cognitive dissonance and increasingly desperate arguments to prove that Putin is a mastermind Ubermensch. It truly is a fucking mystery.

>>65466828
Holy ziggie meltie

>>65466851
Other way around anon. Russians are all Ukrainian

>>65466851
You owe the kievan rus' your caucasian traits, zigger. Your ancestral novgorodian genes have been fucked to oblivion by genghis khan and without eastern european admixture you'll all look like the mongoloid golden horde rapebabies that squat east of muscovy

>>65466720
>in what sense?
In the sense that literally everything produced in Russia is more poorly made than its western counterparts

>>65466861
This is blatantly untrue. Russian suffering is of a quality that no wectoid could ever hope to match.

>>65466828
>>65466841
Serb suffering zigger cum withdrawal, a terrible sight to witness.

>>65466864
No amount of deflection will save you or your ever thinning gene pool, zigger. Enjoy the last generation of white russians while you can, because the future is brown and muslim

>>65466664
>doubles down on retardation
Don't forget to smile in the drone camera

>>65466817
Russia was always the Great Brown Hope, a country that looks sort of first world from a distance but acts totally third world and was supposedly the match of the evil western powers. It was a source of great comfort to the world's brownest and dumbest thirdies and western 5th column fuckwits, it's just too traumatic to accept that it was all horseshit.

>>65466884
Winning? I want to see as many orcs as possible removed, endless stalemate is the absolute perfect thing for speedrunning their demographic toilet flush.

Imagine the killing fields. I look forward to it. TZD has been progressing much too slowly.

>>65466817
Ultimately it comes down to the bonefide shills with a paycheck, for all their troubles, still need cash for their daily bread. For the unpaid ones it's just being being nuttier than a bag of peanuts.

>>65466900
Steppefricans aren't white you silly billy.

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>>65466900
>it thinks there's whites in Russia
>hoooo boy

>>65466900
russia can end the war at any point
every single death is on them

>>65465922
Too bad that we're talkign about the Russians, who are utter dogshit at actually developing new tech, and who keep losing their troops inm job lots, thus negating any combat experience gains by losing the men with that experience.

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>>65466938
Its actually quite remarkable for a country so old to have actually made so little when it comes to advances in science and technology. They can't even really claim anything from the Soviet Union era because its dead and had people from everywhere in the Union working on things, often not voluntarily of course, as was the way if you didn't want to end up in a lumber labour camp

>>65466200
>the actual reality is that this war has redefined what modern equipment is
Correct. And none of it is russian. Russia is a backwards shithole even moreso than it usually has been throughout history.

>>65466776
Lieutenant General of Rosgvardiya's special forces had a smoking accident.

>>65466776
what?? can't hear you over this butcha ammo dump explosion

>>65466767
But muh Po-2s obliterating the entire USAF

>>65466946
There are still competent Russian scientists and the Russian high level education isn't that bad but there's no incentive to work in Russia.

>>65465600
yes

>check out this thread
>half of it is (Dead) zigger posts
you absolutely love to see it
TZD

>>65466999
that makes you a spiritual redd*tor

>>65466766
>declared range
When the russians say that JDAMski can go 100km+, they are lying like how they've lied about the capabilities of all their other weapons

>>65466779
so if I made a link and pin set for those plates I could fire belt fed? Can we further mechanize the bolt's action with blowback?

It's a thought for drones.

>>65467038
>they are lying
Underestimating your opps is not a great idea, anon.

>>65466977
>There are still competent Russian scientists
This, /k/ really loves to generalize russian as bunch of morons but if that was true russia won't be able to sustain their military operation in ukraine.

Honestly, it is kinda disappointing that many poster in /k/ just accept cartoonish depiction of russia from multiple propaganda as a fact without doing their own research about russia and its culture.

>>65467067
People not understanding Russia is how we got this shit war and how we'll get at least one following that (if this one is even allowed to end before the next).

Russian culture is spreading aids through gay rape and lying to your face about it. You don't expect such a culture to be reasonable. You slap them down hard when they chimp out.

>>65465922
By your logic, the Germans were 'stronger' because in 1944 their army size was larger than 1939. Your military being stronger is great if your enemy doesn't also improve. Real life isn't a video game where you can tech up and unlock X unit and the enemy is stuck on Y unit.

Combat experience is nebulous and vague. Combat experience is like 'don't light a cigarette in a trench and stand in the dark because a sniper can see you and kill you' in WW1. Which is true and is good advice, but it doesn't massively change the situation on the front. This didn't make progress quicker, it just reduced the amount of losses from snipers. Actual groundbreaking experience changes (such as the Bongs developing creeping barrages) or technological advances (Bongs making tanks or the French making machine guns able to fire through propeller blades) helped but do not make massive huge differences. Stuff like 'Strom Troopers' didn't either. They were all just little things.

Point is, there is nothing Russia has gained either via experience or technology that can massively change the situation. The only thing that could massively change this situation is either huge supplies of armour and aircraft being dropped into Russia's hands or they use noooooks.

>>65467060
Anon, we literally know that when Russian's state their range of an air missile they include the combat range of the aircraft.

So, lets say, Su-1000 (made up aircraft) has 500km combat range and the missile has 500km range, they will claim their missile has 1,000km range. Because the aircraft can fly 500km and then the missile travel 500km. We know this. Russia has many times claimed they have X and they did not have X. Or they did have X and X wasn't as good as they claimed it. While many times the West has taken it at face value and made something better, it has happened a lot.

I'll give you an example.

Remember when the USA announced their Future Soldier equipment years ago? Well immediately after that Russia announced their own version which included body armour capable of stopping .50BMG, so ours is superior!

Remember when USA announced they had a self-correcting sniper rifle that could correct over 3km? Well Russia announced they had one too but it did it over 5km! So we're better!

Remember when USA was testing the new BAE artillery and rounds and stuff and said it could do whatever the range was? Well Russia said they had a new one too that could go faster AND the artillery piece could fire two at once due to having two barrels! We're better!


Remember when produced the F-35 and then Russia produced the Su-57? The fact we're over 1,000 F-35 produced and maybe 50 Su-57 (including prototypes) doesn't matter, the Su-57 is better!

>>65467067
Holy fuck kill yourself. World's second strongest army still stuck 50km from their own border while fighting against the poorest country in Europe for 4 years. Sustain what fucking presence? This isn't America doing an expeditionary operation on the other side of the world, it's within visual distance of their own fucking country on a clear day with any altitude at all for the overwhelming majority of the front line.

>>65467105
>poorest country in Europe
They got help from Nato tough.

>>65467143
>mighty bear got buckbroken by poorest Euro nation receiving some help from HATO, which said bear promised to solo dismantle for decades
KWAB

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>>65467067
I have in fact done my own research about Russia and its culture. Several unfortunate years of research. I have concluded that this culture needs to be exterminated, along with all russians, and you. I am a moderate.

>>65467067
But the current shitting on Russia IS a direct result to many anons being exposed to actual Russian culture and history.

>>65466763
Hitler shouldn't be on that list, he miraculously survived a bomb-based assassination. It was a close thing.

>>65467143
Only enough to take on a regional power. Russia billed itself as a super power.

>>65467172
It's truly amazing that they can project an outward image of being "just like you", then you look into their culture and it is so vile and awful that trying to explain it to someone else you'd come off as a lunatic. Closest thing in my life to having some Lovecraftian forbidden knowledge.
>They use anal rape as a punitive measure, all over, it's as normal as stern talkings to
>No they don't love homosexuality, they hate it
>Listen, you have to understand, prison culture is different
>No it's not prison but the historical ties between authorities in the military and-
>Okay listen let's get off the ass rape thing, let's talk about how they view other nations, you see this is intricately tied to a cultural heritage known as the "Kyivan Rus"-
>It has nothing to do with Ukraine, well, it has a lot to do with Ukraine and that's a part of it-
>NO, listen, you have to understand, listen, you gotta believe me, it all comes back to the Soviet Union's expansion into-
>Well of course I don't believe that but it's tied to the broad mass cultural identity of-
>NO YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SOUNDS CRAZY!
Ukraine is doing the lord's work. I didn't think it was possible that people who could read books could be so evil other than as freak outliers.

>>65467028
>wanting the reddit nation slaughtered makes someone a redditor
do tell how.

>>65467143
How could the Russian Federation ever hope to defeat Ukraine after Germany after a lot of deliberation sent 5000 helmets? Or the sum of military help being about equal to the Russian military budget in billion of dollars: about 80–90 billion usd.
Humanitarian efforts, these are of course alien to a vatnik, continue to exceed military efforts during 2022–2023 when the Russian Federation lost its ability to enact its strategic goals.

https://www.kielinstitut.de/fileadmin/Dateiverwaltung/IfW-Publications/fis-import/3ce24028-f1f9-4a1c-b456-2ef810d22188-KWP_2218_Trebesch_et_al_Ukraine_Support_Tracker.pdf

A russian opens their mouth only to speak lies or to drink vodka.

>>65467067
Russia has adopted prison culture that’s all you need to know because most of the nerds fled in the 90 and early 2000s while the pigs and gangs took over

>>65467258
Minor mistake from haste, that it should be most nations did more humanitarian than military aid.
Financial aid is what dominated.
Weapon systems didn't teleport into Ukraine February 2022 either, the Ukrainians fought with what was bought since Russia made itself a worse neighbor.
The strategic loss of initiative require a lot acrobatics to attribute to "NATO".
TL:DR, what Ukraine had that called for de-militarization from monke was apparently just enough to blunt the Russian forces the initia months until battlefield aid arrive.

>>65465600
>Does Russia have
Only thing rus*ia have is gay aids

Ever since that Ukrainian ammo dump explosion and the grain truck attacks the vatniks have been more chirpy lately. Do they really think that the war is over by terror bombing

>>65467313
>Do they really think that the war is over by terror bombing
Apparently ukrainians think as much, since that's been the bulk of their operations in the last few months

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>>65465600
>Russia planning ground offensive on Kyiv

>>65467326
it hasn't, brownoid-san.

>>65467326
Terror bombing doesn't effect regime change or capture territory. Ukraine isn't trying to do either, they're just trying to deter an aggressor.

>>65467326
>logistics and economic strikes are the same as hitting food trucks and apartment buildings

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>>65467313
>Ever since that Ukrainian ammo dump explosion
oh you mean the one with newly arrived patriot missiles that detonated and burned down an entire town killing a score of civilians? /k/eddit told me that russian missiles don't work / don't exist / can't hit anything. so more than likely it was some kind of a wacky accident, a faulty air conditioner spontaneously self-combusting and triggering an unfortunate chain reaction mayhaps

>>65467360
>/k/eddit
grounds for immediate mockery, nobody cares what you have to say, you need to stop outing yourself as an outsider who doesn't belong here.

>>65467360
>burned down an entire town
Come on pal

>>65467362
there's a non-zero probability that i've been posting on 4chan before you were even born

>>65467360
total zigger death

>>65467360
I don’t why you think Ukraine is denying it’s not an ammo dump when they literally said it was

>>65467366
There's a non zero probability that you are a massive faggot as well

>>65467067
>/k/ really loves to generalize russian as bunch of morons but if that was true russia won't be able to sustain their military operation in ukraine.
People call Russia morons because of the VDV getting wiped out at Hostomel. Because of the 40km convoy of vehicles that ran out of gas on the way to Kiev. Because they were so cocksure that they brought along RIOT POLICE in their initial invasion force. Because Russian troops were getting issued moldy IFAKs from the fucking Carter administration. Because they lost their flagship and two submarines to a country without a navy. Russia is self-evidently brain-dead and profoundly dysfunctional across the board. Regarding "scientists" in particular, the average scientist doesn't even have tertiary relevance to the military. Some grad student studying halophiles in the arctic circle isn't about to come up with some new wunderwaffe, so you need a LOT of scientists and engineers across many fields - of which Russia has a paltry number because almost all of them who can bail for greener pastures immediately - and a mature and competent MIC that Russia simply doesn't have and hasn't had since the 80s.

>Honestly, it is kinda disappointing that many poster in /k/ just accept cartoonish depiction of russia from multiple propaganda as a fact without doing their own research about russia and its culture.
I've done plenty of research on Russia since the start of the war and it has done nothing except lower my opinion of them. A middle-aged alcoholic being sodomized on video with a baseball bat for refusing orders to walk into a minefield would be an unprecedented scandal everywhere EXCEPT Russia, where it's an ordinary Tuesday.

>>65465963
>Russia gains drone experience, and strengthened logistics lines from China
However,
>Russia lost their armor corps, airforce, navy,VDV, working male population
I'm not sure thats a fair trade desu

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>>65467364
27 confirmed deaths as of yesterday night and that looks a rather big boom for that small of a town. the fire crews are *still* trying to put out the fire btw

>>65466013
russia underwent a force evolution process.
On the frontlines at least, the killable have been killed.
Usually this leads to similar at home; the corrupt & useless have been exposed & removed. Not always tho, sometimes corruption is entrenched.
Basically you can only beat your enemy so long before it turns into training for them. Sometimes.

I know nothing.

>>65467067
It's likely that the Russians will be done once Trump becomes too demented to remember he cared about the pee tapes.

>>65467410
Yeah it’s ad and stupid it happened but I’m not bragging about civilian deaths like you are

>>65467360
>the one with newly arrived patriot missiles
and you know it's specifically patriot missiles how?

>>65467313
>blowing up an ammo depot is a war crime
woah..

>>65467410
>Kinda sorta a mushroom cloud for a second
Wheres that one NOOOK retard at? I want a good laugh

>>65467409
I mean if the future war is going to be like the tech billionaires envision it - robots slaughtering the males and inseminating the females - then their experience will count for something.

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>>65467416
>Yeah it’s ad and stupid it happened
seems like a pattern with ukrainians

>>65467434
>dude sleeping through it at 0:08 sec

>>65467326
Reading comprehension??

>>65467424
When did I say that

>>65467366
>outs himself as a brown offboarder
>gets called out as such
>I-I'M LE OLDFAG TRUST ME BRO!!!
Does your shill handler issues punitive rape to you if you stray even a single step away from the script?

>>65467434
So just one ammo dump is enough for you to act like it’s suddenly a hopeless situation? Man vatniks gotta take every minor win as some glorious achievement these days huh

The way you guys talk about this war you'd think ukraine was winning or something lmao

>>65467463
You’d think Russia would have won by now given the way the shill here lmao

>>65467326
Ukraine is the defender. They're not trying to take clay, they're trying to prevent it. Attacking logistics and economic sources in order to try and make the attacker go
>This isn't worth it
Is viable. Whether you want to call it 'terror' bombing is the same as American Revolutionaries calling Sons of Liberty 'freedom fighters' while, under modern definitions at least, they would be considered 'terrorists'. Weird how perspective is a thing. Ukraine doesn't want anything than Russia to go away. It doesn't want to kill Russians, it killing them is trying to make them stop attacking. This isn't really difficult.

>>65467420
His boss at the troll farm told him so.

>>65467467
Nah with the entire western world supporting Ukraine its entirely believable that's its a stalemate right now

>>65467463
In terms of objectives, it is. It is trying to avoid annexation and becoming a puppet regime to Russia (the stated objective). Meanwhile Russia's objective (which are vague and nebulous) aren't being achieved. So by definition, they are winning.

It's like the War of 1812. USA invades Canada to try and annex it. It gets beaten back, loses some territory and has its capital captured and looted and their President forced to flee. This, by definition, is a loss. It is failure. Your goals were not achieved. Britain's goals of preventing this were achieved. So, by definition, USA lost. Of course you'd have people argue that isn't true but in reality it is.

Point is, currently, Ukraine is 'winning' in achieving its goal to protect its nation. Russia is 'losing' because it is failing to achieve its objectives. That could change, sure, but currently.

>>65467483
Nope. They are losing. The front line is moving largely one way, one capital city is without interceptors and is burning.

>>65467482
>entire western world

>>65467482
>the entire western world supporting Ukraine
Ukraine has barely received anything in last 2 years compare to what we could have given them

>>65467487
I mean I've explained the situation, if you want to ignore it, that's on you. Until Russia's objectives are achieved, they're not 'winning'. Because they are not achieving their goals.

>>65467487
>if I bomb the capital for the 1,000th time surely I’ll win
Russia hits Kyiv almost on a daily basis and that’s still hasn’t stopped Ukraine

>>65467463
No one is winning, but Russia is losing faster

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>>65467463
It's more accurate to say that they aren't rapidly losing while Russia has failed and had to adjust its war aims.

Right now, their win-condition seems to be giving Ukrainian cities the Grozny looks and turning it into a land-locked rump state cut off from its mineral deposits and agricultural regions.

>>65467482
>non war-time footing western allies sending scraps and what they can afford to lose to ukraine
>Australia for example sent unfinished bushmasters and told ukraine 'pay us to finish them'
>"dude it's ALL of nato trust me"
I want you to actually believe this so bad because it would be SO funny

>>65467487
If bombing a capital was all it took to win a war when Germany would have beaten the UK in WW2. While Russia hits pizza places and claims there were 50 NATO generals inside it, Ukraine hits oil refineries. Russia just does tit-for-tat stuff because it has nothing else to hit. Either because it doesn't know where it is or can't hit it. The times they do hit something is surprising and people like you come out of the woodwork to cheer. But then claim Ukraine is full of Nazi Tranny Terrorists committing war crimes by hitting oil refineries.

Russia can leave right now and the world would at least be impressed with some minor humility. Instead Russia is going to sunk cost fallacy even if it means insane ecnomic and personal hardship for their civilians. Even if they took the oblasts they want, there is billions upon billions upon billions of repair costs there, for a nation already fucked economically. Russia won't care, mind, since map painted red and Wikipedia says they won. But in terms of an empathetic human, the suffering people will endure because it'd take decades if not centuries for Russia to repair and rebuild those areas, even assuming the West feels sorry and contributes (why would they I don't know).

>>65467538
>land-locked rump state
They have to take Odessa for that, which isn't happening any time soon.

>>65467540
>If bombing a capital was all it took to win a war when Germany would have beaten the UK in WW2.
They would've beaten them in WW1 too.

>>65467542
The meat cubes will build a bridge to Odessa.

>>65465600
Well that would be the most retarded possible way to utilize the inflow from mobilization.
Let's hope they try.

>>65467538
> Right now, their win-condition seems to be giving Ukrainian cities the Grozny looks and turning it into a land-locked rump state cut off from its mineral deposits and agricultural regions.
Why is Russia waging such a retarded war, shill-san? Why is it taking so long? Why are Russians so subhuman?

>>65465600
They’ve been hyping up Kyiv Boogaloo 2 since Prigozhin’s prank on Moscow.

>>65467482
>Nah with the entire western world supporting Ukraine its entirely believable that's its a stalemate right now
Most of NATO has supported Ukraine by giving them mothballed and/or obsolete vehicles, whatever old ammo they had lying around and intelligence support. It's not nothing but compared to the level of assistance deployed in places like Syria, Libya, etc. it's fucking peanuts.

>>65466070
>red dawn
You mean the movie where Soviet elites airdrop into a bumfuck American town, engage in pointlessly evil bullying of the local civilians, and then get upstaged and humiliated by teenagers?
I don't know why you're acting like it's aged poorly, that film is practically a documentary now.

>>65467412
>the corrupt & useless have been exposed & removed.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

>>65467567
NTA but I think what's tripping him up is little things like
>Making it to the drop zone at all
>Dropping at the correct location at the correct time
>Having a competent organizational structure
>Having access to CAS

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>>65467412
>exposed & removed
This has to be bait. Nobody actually believes this.

>>65465853
doubt there's a defensive line there with yuke corruption the way it is

>>65465600
I don't think it's even close. Before the 2022 invasion we could see their BTGs from satellite photos, I think "planning" in this case means they've read a wishful thinking induced telegram from some russian official.

And even if they magically find men, weapons and logistics, we're gonna see ammo dumps and staging areas on fire before they start anyway.

>>65466906
>bonefide shills
Boner filled shills. Ftfy

>>65467652
it's crazy how the ukies have no men, take 10x the losses the russians take, no money/gear from europe ever gets to the front because big Z snorts all of it up, have no desire to fight back, and yet the front has been basically completely static for years. Like, they even failed to build a defensive line over the course of 4+ years, as you said. How aren't the russians already in Kiev???

>>65467676
yeah it's pretty funny how zigger shillls wanna paint ukies like some sort of failed state full of corrupt bums with insane losses, but when you ask "so why isn't ziggeria steamrolling them if they're so bad", sudenly they go (Dead) lol
like if ukies are so bad, what does that say about ziggeria that can't even swiftly defeat such a "bad" enemy?
ziggeria is like a dumbfuck drunk on the streets that got decked, but keeps badmouthing the one that decked him, calling him a weak bitch. my man, if he's a bitch, then you're a double bitch in this situation.

>>65467412
The absolute opposite has occurred for ziggers: The motivated died long ago, veteran status among SMO troops is now defined by the ability of a russian to find a deep safe basement and keep it hidden whilst ensuring enough siberian alcoholics are fed into the grinder in their own place.

>>65467652
>yuke corruption the way it is
something that has improved since 2014 while Russian corruption has stayed exactly the same (worse than Ukraine)?

>>65465600
so if we compare with the 2022 invasion in the north

russia 2026 vs russia 2022
>a lot less vehicles including logistics
>a lot less artillery
>less planes and choppers
>no element of surprise
>more drones
>probably more troops
>more experience

Ukr 2026 vs Ukr 2022
>more vehicles
>more artillery
>probably less planes and choppers
>more troops
>a lot of intel on a coming invasion
>a lot more drones
>miles of trenches and minefields
>more experience

I just cannot see how russia would pull it off, short of sending a literal million men to swarm the border
and even then Ukr probably has a million drone waiting for them

>>65466767
>>65466973
The mere fact that you are raging over shit posts on 4chan really outs you guys as being terrible at your jobs, you don't even know who to attack or why everything you post here is utterly pointless. Who are you even shilling for?

>>65467770
Why are you pretending to be Norktard? Weird.

>>65467770
NTAs but I also think you’re a massive retard. You’re correct that Russia is a massive shithole that cannot win the war but NK is also really awful.

You say kimmy cares about his people when everyone outside of Pyongyang is horribly emaciated and dying of starvation constantly. Why do you think the suicide rate is so high? The average nork doesn’t deserve this sort of suffering or abuse. But you never think of them, you jack off to propaganda posters of the Kim Dynasty or gifs of military parades. And then Kimmy is sending more of his “beloved soldiers” to die for Monke.

Free the Nork people from its government, it’s the best thing that could be done.

>>65467794
It's not even the tripfag Norktard, his name is a name, not a tripcode. He's just copied and pasted it in to trick retards. Not calling you a retard per se but, you know, walks like a duck and all that.

>>65467800
Oh, egg on my face then. What I said still holds true and I’m tired of the tripfag’s retardation.

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>>65466137
>My guess is he's going to pull bellorus in as well
No, sorry, prior commitments

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>>65467326
>ballistic missile strike against a theater packed with women and children sheltering, with a giant sign on the roof saying theyre women and children
>xaxaxaxa, evil hohol azov HQ destroyed!!!
>long range drone strikes on russia's largest private provider of military logistics
>NOOOOOO THIS IS LE TERROR BOMBING, SOMEONE CALL THE UN!!!!
i hope they just start dropping chemical weapons on moscow at this point

>>65466817
If I was getting paid for it, I wouldn't complain. Copy-pasting retarded scripts and spamming BBC porn is pretty easy work. I doubt I'd enjoy doing it all day long, but it definitely beats digging ditches or being sent to the front lines.