Could this task be accomplished conventionally without the need for a giant mech?
>>65469988No, Mossad killed the only guy that tried.
I always hate when godzillas are killed. I always root for them.
>>65469993Sad but true, no orbital cannons allowed.
>>65469988With an autoloading static gun? Sure, but if you need to reposition it how are you going to do that? Its so big you'd need to run rail tracks to dodge the nuclear breath
>>65469988fuck off ai fag
Any reason Godzilla couldn't be killed just by dropping a GBU-57 on its head?
>>65470366Godzilla represented the feminist movement springing up from the demoralized male population of japan. The idea is to say that america was an unstoppable force that you should feel no shame in being defeated by. Women pushed the opposite idea that the men were cowards and failures. It was basically their version of our 90's girl power thing, except they didn't push back on it like we are doing in the west, so it spiraled out of control. Essentially, the atomic bombs created the feminist movement. And it is unstoppable because the emasculated male population internalized the shame and humiliation they received from the women in their lives. Godzilla is an affliction of the mind. It represents dying with 'honor' to appease your demented mother. It cannot be defeated by fighting.
>>65469993>killing your enemies is bad
>>65469988>without the need for a giant mech?China has their humaniod robot games going on. Bipedal robots might be more complex than wheels, but we're soon approaching technical experience that they're practical enough.Obviously a human sized and shaped robot can navigate stairs, operate doors and move across obstacles both like a person, and inhumanly better than a person. Legs can navigate obstacles larger than a wheel of similar diameter.
>>65470366Godzilla would simply dodge the bomb
>>65472015>operate doors and move across obstacles both like a person, and inhumanly better than a personrobots opening doors inhumanly better than a person...I shudder to imagine
>>65470910How's that t h r e e days s p e c i a l ops in eye-run, going?
>>65469988Yea, a big ass missile could accomplish the same thing, cruise or otherwise.
>>65470030The mech wouldn't be able to move either.
>>65469988been done actually
>>65472015>China has their humanoid* robot games going onit has remote controlled toys that spaz out all the time. now fuck off chang
>>65470366some kind of bunker buster would be the solution to most kaiju. the payload may be conventional, nuclear, chemical, biological, or even inert depending on the nature of the kaiju. Id imagine of you hit godzilla with enough of them, he would eventually succumb.
>>65469988no, there is no other methodall others would be lacking in aesthetic impact on the east asian (?) mind
>>65469988A MAC round? In atmosphere?
>>65473485Halo is gay shit for babies.
>>65473532t. baddie
>>65473532That’s some real heretical shit you just posted there.
>>65470366I think if we dropped two nukes on him it will kill him
>>65473558>>65473897Gay babies spotted.
>>65474448get out of /k/ massive faggots aren't welcome here
>>65469988we lost the technology since the good guys lost WW2
>>65472412>>65475086Genuinely wish I could have been there to see them touch this thing off a single time. That must have been insane to see.If I ever become a billionaire replicas of that shit is what I'd spend money on, not some bullshit mansion in California.
>>65470907>Godzilla represented the feminist movement springing up from the demoralized male population of japan.Godzilla is painfully obviously meant to represent nuclear weapons, to the point where literal children are meant to make the connection. Your fear of women has made you dumber than a typical 3rd grader.
>>65476173Not just represent, Godzilla IS a nuclear weapon. It's called atomic breath.
>>65470366He shoots death rays from his back spines that are effective against aircraft and being a giant radioactive fucker, his mere presence wreaks havoc on electronics (headcanon, lie).If you managed to land it from outside jamming and death ray range, he would probably die within a few hits, yeah. There's a reason that the films are set in Japan and not the US.
>>65469988All the grebbling in the gun makes no sense, looks like sci-fi slop. Why does a fuck huge gun need so many access panels, random labels with words, bits and bobs sticking out?
>>65470910Maybe don't be such a piece of shit that you make all your neighbors into enemies.
>>65469988Is the barrel supposed to fly off?
>>65476173Hating women is always justified, even if anon inserts it where it doesn't really fit.
>>65470366
>>65469988>killing godzilla with a mechWell Mechagodzilla 2 and Kiryu both put up a decent job of it but I dont even know what movie this clip is from. Kiryu would probably smoke Shin with the absolute zero cannon and maybe even Burning Godzilla, which realistically means most of the others too. If this is just about "would Godzilla die if we shot him with a big gun" the answer is obviously no because he's almost indestructible in most films and literally needed a weapon worse than nukes to kill in the first film, the Cadmium guns from Return would be the bare minimum and those only incapacitate him. If the question is if we needed a mech to carry the gun the answer is no because that's retarded to ask.
>>65476173Didn't read the post award
>>65470851>>65470910Bottled ah responses
godzilla is just flesh and blood, he'd be super easy to kill with existing arsenals.
>>65479820>ahIt's ass, kiddo. You need to be over 18 to post here btw.
>>65481474>unc doesn't know the new lingoYou don't even need to be underage to know this shit you retarded faggot
>>65481533Why would anyone old enough to post here without getting b& go out of their way to sound like a 10 year old on tiktok?
>>65481732You may be completely retarded anon
>>65479861He literally will shrug off pretty much everything other than the oxygen destroyer, Cadmium rounds from a scifi gunship, getting his ass brain tased (yeah that was a movie), or just waiting for him to hit nuclear meltdown and die on his own after trashing the country. Literally tossing him into a volcano or freezing him in a glacier just captures him for a minute until the next film. There's no way modern conventional weapons would work on him, they fail in every film. His head gets blown off in Minus One and just regenerates. You'd be better off wrangling the nearest kaiju or alien or whatever and hoping they kick his ass by draining his energy or some shit than relying on the military or G-Force
>>65472015Implessive!
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>>65476264>effective against aircraftSure, in the movies where fighter jets get into spitting distance. Let him try that shit against a jet 3 miles above him, moving at mach fuck you.Or does he have radar as well?
>>65482105He'd just face tank a bomb regardless, they have minimal impact. In a lot of the movies they have scifi maser guns and other weapons that do about fuck all. The entire point is he's a force of nature who can't be killed without a ridiculous effort and rarely even then
>>65481829yes in the movies he has magic flesh but in real life he'd get stomped by conventional forces because flesh isn't magic
>>65469988Missile./thread
>>65479861He's made out of pure 100% godzilla.
>>65469988>robots that holds weapons needs hands with fucking fingers to hold a weapon instead of just having the weapon conjoined to it's fucking armsThis is my biggest pet peeve with tranime robots in videogames and movies.
>>65481945Anyone else find it weird how chinese adults suddenly decided to talk like african-american preteens?
>>65482758With hands it can do other things and use other weapons than an integrated canon
>>65482758Mechs are inherently stupid. There is no conceivable role they could fill that would not be better served by some other existing or conceivable weapon system. So if you're going to make something that is inherently stupid, why not go all out and give it hands so you can throw your empty guns at opponents, or switch to melee weapons, or just punch the other guy?
>just a dude>with a gun>pulling the triggerThis is not a mech. This is mecha.
>>65482984While we're at it let's add a rocket to propel the hand assembly, and make them rotate whilst doing so. I call it the turbo smasher punch.
>>65477988We both know that Anno pulled that out of his ass in order to explain why modern weapons couldn't kill Godzilla.
>>65483108>chadyes.png
>>65482758>>65482986Yeah, soldiers should have their guns bolted to their arms. It's stupid that they use hands.
>>65482758Hate that shit too.Also, robots that have bullshit feet instead of wheels. Humanoids is one thing, but any sort of design that doesn't hinder itself imitating the human form should just have wheels - a wheel can function as a foot (climbing stairs and what not) simply by just locking it via the brakes and in any other usecase, the wheel can roll, giving it better mobility.Ah well.
>>65477939You can fit hating women into anything, don't let social rules stop you from hating women anywhere, anytime.
>>65482583He's a living nuclear reactor, inherently a fictional idea. This is like if you ate uranium and just got billions of billions of calories to spend on biological needs and grew into a gross cancer tumor monster. There isn't any bit of real life to this monster where just a bomb will work>>65482758You can have both like picrel>>65482984Okay hands actually make a lot of sense in Gundam where you have mobile suits doing physical labor and multiple evolving weapon systems where they need to swap equipment regularly and perform noncombat tasks
>>65482758Ok, but imagine actually having a fuckuge mech with fully articulated arms, outside of combat.Imagine the construction projects that would suddenly become viable.
>>65483654None of them, because cranes exist.
>>65483646>>65483654Probably would still be ALOT more practical to have the arms end in an universal adapter that can attach to weapons OR hands.Like an excavator swiching between different tools.No reason to put wear on your stupid expensive mech hands, when ou don't have to.
>>65483658Okay.Then there’s no point in having hands, because the whole argument is that hands are super versatile.
>>65483658I get where you're coming from but then you have to have the mech get serviced every time to swap between them unless you invent some giant scifi hand swap holster that takes off your guns or hands automatically. I feel like just having hands 24/7 and then another weapon system mounted to the shoulders or something is the best move, with the option of having hand equipped weapons or tools always available
>>65483678You know what’s EVEN BETTER than that?Not having a highly complicated arm at all, and instead attaching the weapons to a centrally mounted, rotating pylon. Perhaps we could call it a “turret”? I’m still workshopping the name btw.
>>65483684Okay but then we lose all the hand argument stuff unless your pylon turret on legs has some crammed in there somewhere. Like you may as well just have reinvented the tank
>>65469988yes rail gun on a ship
>>65483694>Like you may as well just have reinvented the tankoh shit the mechtard reached the logical conclusion of fixing everything wrong with mechs one by one on his own without being forced to
>>65483684>You know what’s EVEN BETTER than that?Yup, big mecha with arms holding a big gun.
>>65483678Anon, it's really not that complicated.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlXGISgXXDwAdd some hydraulic and electric connectors and you're golden.>>65483676Hands are mostly there for the sake of having hands, there's no way around that, and the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced every useful task woudl be better and cheaper to achieve with a specialized tool. Damn shame. I like hands.
>>65469988Reminder
>>65483142>to explain why modern weapons couldn't kill Godzilla.No the entire point of the movie was that they could've, if they had acted decisively. Instead all the politicians hemmed and hawed thinking about covering their ass until it was too late.
>>65469988how big is the death zone around the gun?
>>65482105In said movie with back lazers he is explicitly said to have radar capable of detecting even tiny drones
>>65472045How is Hezbollah doing?
>>65476131Building one of those would be more expensive than a space shuttle.
>>65476276Actually the opposite. Smaller weapons don't need gribbles, you need access ports for maintenance.
>>65483870Never said mechs aren't tarded, I'm trying to justify them in fiction. Them having hands can make logical sense.>>65483880Cool video but this would only work well in a utilitarian mech, I dont think you could spin this into a possibly combative at any chance form. Im picturing the original Gundam scene where Amuro has to get in the fucking robot because you're stuck in scifi Pearl Harbor
>>65472045Idk, you tell me ahmed.
>>65485324I can answer in his stead, it's going extremely poorly. The US has demonstrated that its global power is waning, and all of its allies except Israel are distancing themselves. They've exhausted most of their PGM stocks, and they can't find an exit ramp that isn't a complete humiliation. Yes, the US has destroyed a lot of materiel that Iran had, but in the end it doesn't matter how much is destroyed if the US cannot attain its political goals. The war is a failure, and the US has turned into a pariah because of it.And what's even more confusing is that the US is still trying to suck off Russian dick while Russians are openly supporting Iran by providing them with intel and rocketry expertise. The current US administration is a mess of historic proportions. Nice video though, well done taking down that one ship. Hope losing the status of the global hegemon was worth it.
>>65485514One thing I notice about this pro Israel shills is that they love showing off how my country is bombing Iran. They think it's really epic and cool how we're harming a country that would otherwise never lift a finger to hurt us if we weren't an Israeli vassal state. I find it quite sad because America has so much potential but we squander it all on doing Israel's bidding. We're throwing so much away to hurt Iran as much as possible for 0 tangible gain for America. It's making Israel really happy since now Iran has less potential to harm Israel but that's not worth my tax money being used to harm a country that would be peaceful to us otherwise.
>>65485533"Peaceful" is a bit of a stretch, they are funding terrorist organisations that are causing damage to global trade, and they did provide Russia with Shaheds that were wreaking havoc in Ukraine before they figured out the drone interceptors. I know it seems like so long time ago now, but back in the day the US was trying to support Ukraine and prevent Russia becoming a threat to NATO. But it's certainly true that Iran could never threaten US directly.
>>65485546>"Peaceful" is a bit of a stretch, they are funding terrorist organisations that are causing damage to global trade, and they did provide Russia with Shaheds that were wreaking havoc in Ukraine before they figured out the drone interceptors.This is true. The American in me supports Ukraine because they're the underdog. I think it's good for America to back Ukraine. We had help in our past too like when the French assisted us against the British. I could see Ukraine becoming a very strong European country that bolsters Europe's security as well as becoming a valuable trading partner for the USA. Especially so now with the national identity they have gained by parrying Russia's invasion.Iran fucking with Ukraine and assisting Russia is something that the USA should interfere with, but I question if Iran would still behave that way if the USA wasn't constantly harassing, sanctioning, and attacking them on behalf of Israel.
>>65485594>We had help in our past too like when the French assisted us against the British. I could see Ukraine becoming a very strong European country that bolsters Europe's security as well as becoming a valuable trading partner for the USA.There is that, but the main concern from the US point of view is that if Ukraine falls to Russia, then Russia would be in a position to threaten NATO proper, and if they attacked NATO, the US would be treaty bound to respond. Which would leave them with two bad choices, go to war with Russia or not go to war with Russia and see the entirety of the US alliance structure shatter immediately.>Iran fucking with Ukraine and assisting Russia is something that the USA should interfere with, but I question if Iran would still behave that way if the USA wasn't constantly harassing, sanctioning, and attacking them on behalf of Israel.Very hard to know. As far as I'm aware, US is the only western country that has abysmal relations with Iran. They're much more cordial to Euros, so perhaps US and Iran relations would be more like that.
>>65485514>>65485533>nooooo sarrrrr iran is winning because ummmmm.... if you let your enemies sink your ships you win saaaaarrrrr!+10 izzat!
>>65485802You're very histrionic and likely unsuccessful irl.
>>65485616That cordial relationship with both Europe in general and Ukraine in particular proved to mean fuck all as soon as Russia was willing to cut a check for shaheds. Given that Iran very much has its own geopolitical interests that bring it into conflict with other middle eastern powers, Europe was always going to get screwed over as a consequence of Iran's fuck fuck games sooner or later, either due to Iran disrupting international trade or supplying 3rd parties with weapons, and a cordial US would be in the exact same position where Iran wouldn't be targeting them directly but would still happily be fucking them over as a side effect.
>>65485874Right, but you could also make the point that if Iran is willing to take checks, the collective West is way more lucrative than Russia. Had there been a better relationship between the western powers and Iran, perhaps they would have been unwilling to hand over those shaheds to Russia if it meant losing access to global trade. The problem with Iran being fully sanctioned already is that there's very little leverage to use on them besides military force, which clearly isn't working either.
>>65485594>I question if Iran would still behave that way if the USA wasn't constantly harassing, sanctioning, and attacking them on behalf of Israel.You should read a bit about the creation of the country.
>>65485838>ad hominemI accept your concession, rakesh.
>>65485893You are poor and a loser anon.
>>65485893You know, your own country would probably be in a better state if people like you were capable of looking at things objectively. Yes congratulations on destroying some boats, good job. But wars aren't won by destroying boats, wars are won by achieving political goals. US is achieving none of its objectives, and it's going to leave Iran in a better geopolitical position than it was ante bellum.Are you at least capable of acknowledging that the war didn't go as planned?
>>65485900He's just going to call you brown and post another video of our tax money getting wasted.
>>65485911>our money
>>65485900>But wars aren't won by destroying boatsThe cope is strong with this one.
>>65485922Do you know what the definition of a war is?
>>65485900>Are you at least capable of acknowledging that the war didn't go as planned?Kek, grasping at straws now abdullah?
>>65485926If you aren't willing to acknowledge that the war isn't going as planned, then do you think that US administration wanted to get in an extended conflict, blow through all their PGM stockpiles, see the strait of hormuz closed and precipitate a global energy crisis? Was that their plan?
>>65485929It's going as planned, shitran is being blown the fuck out everyday, I would be pointing that question towards iran since they started this conflict. They'll eventually fully reopen the straight after further humiliation rituals(more sunken ships and more vaporized IRGC stooges).
>>65485933So the US objective was to use all its PGM stockpiles, ruin its soft power, disrupt global trade, and cause a global energy crisis just so it could engage in "humiliation rituals" with Iran. Truly impressive.
>>65478010>literally needed a weapon worse than nukes to kill in the first film, the Cadmium guns from Return would be the bare minimum and those only incapacitate himI'm kind of shocked you don't realize resistance to kinetic penetration, resistance to an omnidirectional explosive, and resistance to having a magical chemical device cause all the Oxygen in your body to break off don't directly scale against each other like hit points in a video game.
>>65481533>>65479820>Mo bop mughuh wughuh bix nood muh fugguh Post your gun with timestamp
>>65481829In one of the Heisei films you're referencing he got his skin penetrated by a projectile that came from a fucking Carl Gustav. The injury was shallow, but it explicitly reached his bloodstream.
>>65485947Don't let them bullshit you into forgetting Israel started this war and ordered its greatest golem to sink into the quagmire because of it.
>>65486009Don't worry, I won't.
>>65486009>Israel started this warDon't accuse me of defending Israel here, because they hit the panic button and drug the US into it by saying "we are attacking with or without you", meaning this was happening either way, but Iran DID walk into that last round of peace time negotiations and declare they had enough enriched material for a dozen or so warheads nearly available.
>>65486023>says not to accuse him of defending Israel>defends Israel
>>65486026You read like a nigger. I'm defending the US. Whether we struck Iran or not, we'd be looking at the mess we're in now.No questions about Iran's masterful negotiation tactics, though?
>>65469988Yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer_Gustav
>>65469988If it can be done by giant humanoid robot, it can be done normal hardware, in cheaper and more efficient way. But these things run on anime mecha logic when giant only can do those things
>>65486035You're defending Israel. US is not a sovereign actor in this conflict.I have no comment on Iran, aside from the fact that they're hanging on admirably despite the punishment they're receiving.
>>65485533>would never hurt us-Stop talking.
>>65488372>the US isn't sovereign I didn't know that the US is completely subservient to Israel, US troops are dying in Gaza and Lebanon right now! Oh wait they're not. This war was a long time coming, Trump decided to strike while the iron was hot. Israel needs absolutely no help in dealing with Iran, tell me how many Aeigis cruisers are defending Israel? Tell me how many US aircraft are stationed on Israeli airfields? How many US troops are stationed in Israel? Answer me you bitch.
>>65483402FUCK YOU
>>65483656A crane can rotate a section or install it under an overhang?
>>65488420Just because US is not taking part in all of the conflicts Israel is engaged in does not mean that Israel doesn't have enough dirt on key US officials to force their participation if it so desires. US is de facto a client state of Israel as long as your executive branch is full of old perverts and your counterintelligence is leaking like a sieve.
>>65488435Yes, because as we all know, there is no animosity between Iran and the United States. None whatsoever, but for those pesky Jews, there would never ever be a conflict between the two. Buffoon.
>>65488435>any of thisSo nothing? Hey thanks for learning and correcting your viewpoint have a nice evening.
>>65488437>Yes, because as we all know, there is no animosity between Iran and the United States. None whatsoever, but for those pesky Jews, there would never ever be a conflict between the two.Correct.
>>65488452>looks at 1979Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>65488452Bait.
>>65488456Only half of it. Without Israel's involvement, the US would have never started this conflict.
>>65488460>without Iran's involvement the US would have never started this conflict FTFY
>>65488460Yes, because the only thing better than one North Korea is a second, gay, retarded and genocidal North Korea. Fuck off.
>>65488461Well... I suppose you could make the claim that Iran did cause the conflict to happen by having the audacity to exist.>>65488464>second, gay, retarded and genocidal North Korea. What are you even trying to say? Russia exists and US is doing very little to oppose it.
>>65469988>godzilla got kirkedWhat movie??
>>65488470>What are you even trying to say?One North Korea is bad enough. A second is worse. Can you guess (use context clues!) who this second North Kora may be?
>>65488470You make the same argument about Israel. The biggest difference between them is that Israel actively tries to seek peace with it's neighbors while the other continously supplies groups who destabilize the region.
>>65488480>Can you guess (use context clues!) who this second North Kora may be?I did. It's Russia.>>65488485That is pure nonsense and you know it. Israel is actively seeking to expand its borders, and it has done exactly that ever since it was founded. Continuously.
>>65482132If conventional weapons can't damage Godzilla where did the chunks of his scales come from that they were experimenting with in Biolante? I don't even think they had Maser Tanks yet when those samples were recovered.
>>65485893>>65485920>>65485922You are the cancer killing the site and I'm afraid the chemo is no longer working.I have muttoid tribalism fatigue.
>>65469988>sharper image toy drone with grenade strapped to it flies in between the knee cap
>>65477988Godzilla lore should be: he starts off with a chad hero look to him. But the more he's damaged and heals, the more warped and evil he looks. You end up with a melted skeletons thing with unbreakable obsidian skin. You can't fight him in the long run, you can only live with him and manage him like a natural disaster.
>>65469988this is only cool with the giant mechwhy would you want it without?
>>65472015What I'm wondering is if the U.S. government has properly followed up on what Boston Dynamics was achieving like a decade ago, especially with quadruped design. There's very little real reason robots have to look like us, except in China's case where they're specifically developing them to help caretake their rapidly aging population.
>>65488508>gives up the Sinai>gave up GazaReally now. Explain why they would give up that amount of territory. You won't and can't.
>>65488682He can be damaged by heavy conventional weapons in as much as you can be damaged by a small rock, so he does leave samples after each rampage. Even when they manage to do much more than the equivalent of a bruise, he just regenerates too quickly for it to stack up.
>>65469988With hypersonic missiles probably. Just one that's really really big.
>>65490219>he just regenerates too quickly for it to stack up.He never actually demonstrates this in the films. They say he can regenerate over time, but it's not like wolverine where you can see it happening.
>>65490331It’s actually a plot point in Godzilla 2000 where the enemy kaiju steals this ability and cranks it up to 11. The military’s battle with Godzilla at the beginning of the movie is centered around a new kind of missile that would actually do enough damage that Big-G wouldn’t be able to heal fast enough to shrug it off.
>>65490051>Conveniently forgets about the west bank, southern Lebanon, and parts of Syria.
>>65488437This, but unironically because I'm not a liar or naive fool.
>>65488454Did you think you had a point?>>65488461Iran deserves the same right to nuclear weapons and self defense that israel does.
>>654904541. 2000 is its own completely separate continuity 2. I just watched that movie a week ago. The fact that Orga had to increase the healing ability by orders of magnitude and STILL died from being unable to infinitely regenerate is not something you can just gloss over.The Full Metal Missile kind of sucked ass also.
