you take advantage of the new ruling yet?
>>65488888nice getif i registered my own suppressor off of a modular 3d print, could i have multiple suppressors attached together as one piece to fasttrack the registration?basically just a really long modular device made of baffles that all thread onto each other off 1/2x28 threads, and could then be taken apart & put on multiple guns?
>>65488888>tfw state law includes "legally registered" as a requirement to use suppressorsStill picked up a Velos that I shot for the first time yesterdayAlso bought some 77 gr to try because I forgot how dogshit the fuckton of TulAmmo I had on hand is after shooting terrible groups at 100 yards (and that it's probably best to avoid putting that shit through my nice new suppressor)
No, I live in NC so we can't get them from 4473s. I already own a velos though. Might get the 762 version
No, filling out a 4473 (for a metal tube, no less) is still complying and thus just as bad as tyranny itself.Celebrating tiny non-victories like gun owners have been doing recently is pathetic. Wake me up when the entire NFA is ripped up and the entire ATF is dismantled, when there is not a single "federally licensed" gun dealer left in the country, and when I can order select-fire belt fed rifles directly to my door from the manufacturer with cryptocurrency. This could happen overnight if "second amendment enthusiasts" weren't so easily pacified.>inb4 non-arguments made by golems and chat bots
>>65488894>registerIf you're a member of one of the plaintiff organizations (GOA, CCRKBA), the injunction should mean you can just make silencers with no Form 1. Serialization requirement may still apply, depending which org; there's some dispute even for Jensen plaintiffs (CCRKBA). Also various future options, such as selling them or taking them across state lines (though I think that's SB[R/S]-specific, silencers are okay?) may still require NFA registration, and thus become impossible for any NFA firearm not registered "at birth", since there's no way to legitimately register an already-existing NFA firearm.If you choose to go through the NFA process at all (because you don't want to join one of the plaintiff orgs, because you want to keep some NFA options open, or because your state law prohibits non-registered NFA firearms), you should assume all rules apply same as always -- each suppressor should be registered separately on its own Form 1 and serialized individually. Even genuinely modular suppressors are effectively prohibited by default*; SOTs can get around this with a specific ruling that a modular product counts as a single silencer, but there's no way for a Form 1 maker to get such a ruling.Otherwise, the safest choice (other than waiting for ATF guidance) is to make each suppressor separately, and serialize each as required under the NFA -- no Form 1, no registering of any sort.If you're covered under Jensen, and convinced the injunction protects you from all marking requirements, then there's nothing left to worry about -- print anything you like, any way you like, the only rule is to have fun.*This is because the NFA defines "silencer" to include "any part intended only for use in [assembling a silencer]"; this creates a risk for a modular suppressor assembled in a short configuration, that any baffles/extensions left over will each be considered a separate silencer.
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>>65490077i thought that was tony soprano, and just immediately accepted him being in starship troopers
>>65489027Hey NCbro, ENC here. I was bummed when I checked the list of gay states. I only have one 5.56 and have been waiting for the tax repeal to add maybe an R9 and a .22 can. But would love to impulse buy same day.
>>65490266If Mr Krabs can be in starship troopers, so can Mr Soprano
>>65490266Klendathu.Whatever happened there.
>>65491047Think i might just buy another one anyways desu. Went to a local shop earlier and they have some Omega 300s. Dude there said they can handle everything in shop so that'll be nice. The only thing putting me off of buying another can was having to deal with the ATF site. I remember having a lot of trouble when I did it on my own.
>>65493815Yeah, my local shop has an R9, that by the time I find a cheaper one and pay shipping and their high transfer fee, it will be approved in the same amount of time it takes to FedEx. I was leaning towards the Dead Air RXD22ti for a ringside only because it perfectly matched my 10/22 barrel. What are you gonna get?
>>65494094After some thinking, I think I'll get a Velos 762 for my 300blk AUG and my SAM7R. Might as well anyways since any further progress from GOA, SilencerShop, PSA, and whoever else will take longer than a form 4 lol. Pricier than the Omega but flow through and no barrel length restrictions. The shop doesn't have any in stock but I'll try and ask if they can order it for me.
Kind of a weird thing.>have FN Five Seven with M10x1 threaded barrel>buy a dedicated GSL 5.7-22 suppressor>barrel manufacturer (EFK) advertises for use with GSL, so it should just work>M10x1 adapter on suppressor won't thread onto barrel>first thread bites, then gets insanely tight>fuck>double check product information on barrel and suppressor>yup, both are supposed to be M10x1>double check suppressor and barrel to make sure I'm not retarded>yup, definitely feels way to tight>need to figure out which part is out of spec>go to local ACE the helpful place>use their nut/bolt size gauge>mfw both thread perfectlyIt would appear that GSL and EFK use opposite ends of the tolerance. With tolerance stacking, I'm now out of tolerance.
>>65489901Retarded take. Kys.
>>65494800spray some WD40 on it and driver her home
>>65488888I ordered 2 under the assumption that my local NFA dealer would be going along with the ruling. They called me later that day and told me they wouldn't and I couldn't get in touch with Silencer Shop for the last month to cancel my order so I was left stuck waiting a fucking month for them to approve the Form 3 and then ship to my dealer and NOW I'm still having to wait for the Form 4 to be approved. They sold a lot of suppressors by not being totally forthcoming about what dealers would be participating and now I'm left holding the fucking bag. I could have had these 2 cans a month ago if not for those faggots.
>>65494800that's a pisser, you could buy a tap or die to clean up the threads on either end, or take it to a gunsmith if you weren't comfortable doing it.
>>65495121I thought about it. But the threads on the suppressor are stainless. Way softer material than what's on the barrel. I'd rather have the barrel wear down instead.>>65495216I've got a tap and die set with that size, but I'd rather message GSL and have them provide work instructions or offer support. That way if there is a concentricity issue, I'm covered.But, honestly, I didn't like the EFK barrel in general. It's just too long. There's a massive gap between the slide and the suppressor. It's even worse with the 1/2 x 28 adapter. I've got a different Five Seven barrel on order from Jarvis, which is shorter.
>>65488888Sick quints for sick suppressors.
>>65495124My Form 4s got approved 30 minutes after posting this.
>>65488888Form 4 approved in ONE day.Don't think I've ever had it this fast.
Any recommendations on the new low back pressure titanium suppressors? Something not Huxwurx. A bunch of developments have come out over the last few months, I'd like to take advantage of the newer technology.
>>65495114>inb4 non-arguments made by golems and chat botswow how very predictable
No, PA doesn't allow suppressors or SBS unless they're in accordance with the NFA so only SBRs for now. I work at an FFL so I get deals on cans; I'm buying my first one, a Saker 556
>>65495407Why even suppress a five seven? It won't be quiet, and if you use subsonic, it'd be like an expensive 22. Kinda defeats the purpose, don't it?
>>65497678Why buy such an old outdated suppressor? Are you getting it for like $400?
>>65497678Wait, PA allows you to make a SBR without a Form 1 now?
>>65497887>It won't be quietYes, supersonic suppressed is never "quiet">and if you use subsonic, it'd be like an expensive 22Yes, but with a reloadable case, with a more reliable priming system, and a more reliable case feed design due to being bottlenecked and rimless, and bullets that are 50% heavier or more and easy to find and inexpensive
>>65497887I get your point, 5.7 is supposed to be high velocity, armor piercing, etc etc. But 5.7 has more mass than a 22. It's not as useless as you might think.But more importantly, it's such a nice damn gun to suppress. It's very pleasant to shoot and the FN Five Seven is very light despite carrying 20 rounds. Even with the GSL suppressor, it's still really light.I'm always shocked every time I pick it up. My Beretta M9 with the Mojave 9 suppressor feels like a cinder block in comparison. I'm so glad I didn't buy the B&T dedicated suppressor for the FNs. It's much heavier and would have ruined the gun.
>>65494620Check out CAT-ODB as well because it's tailor made for your use case. Flow through can designed specifically for .300blk subs and 7.62x39. It tested extremely well on pewscience subsonic .300blk test, far better than the other flow throughs they tested and up there with the quietest traditional baffle cans. The only downside is it won't perform nearly as well on .308/6.5creed etc as a general use .30cal can, but it's a necessary tradeoff if you want subsonic performance with flow-through.
It's finally here. It's made from steel, it's heavy, not very quiet, high in back pressure, and just over $1k.A suppressor that I bought solely for aesthetics and not performance.
>>65488888I got two the same weekend of the ruling, and I plan on getting a third soon. Still deciding if it should be a .22 or a .45 can.
>>65488888CheckedNo, state is cucked with respect to the wording of their suppressor laws. Rip.
>>6549904122 is the most worth it.
>>65498605maybe you can do both and get better baffles
>>65501398my biggest regret is not buy a integrally suppressed 22 ruger pistol and going with a rifle
>>65501398Gonna check the based LGS and see if they still have some in stock. .22 was the hottest selling caliber I noticed when I got my suppressors.
>>65499610Same here. State law basically requires an ATF Form 1 or Form 4 for any suppressor or SBR, and classifies it as completely banned otherwise. Republican state but of course tons of grabbers.
Bought a .32acp suppressor today on a 4473 today. Feels good.
>>65489901>No, filling out a 4473 (for a metal tube, no less) is still complying and thus just as bad as tyranny itself.>Celebrating tiny non-victories like gun owners have been doing recently is pathetic. Wake me up when the entire NFA is ripped up and the entire ATF is dismantled, when there is not a single "federally licensed" gun dealer left in the country, and when I can order select-fire belt fed rifles directly to my door from the manufacturer with cryptocurrency. This could happen overnight if "second amendment enthusiasts" weren't so easily pacified.>winning is bad because my nonsensical fantasy situation hasn't happened>Le tyranny of not being able to buy VX nerve gas off Amazon I just know you're some white trash sovereign citizen living a Nevada trailer park living off a govt check
>>65489901>wake me up when the work is done I refuse to lift a finger for anything everyou're the worst kind of lazy bum
>>65495124I went the 4473 route and it still took a month to get them, I think they're just a small shop and backed up with orders from the ruling. Only every talked to their ai bot over email
>>65495121I did this to your mom. It just worked.
>>65489901Ok. Post your unregistered, homemade suppressor then. Prove you aren’t all talk. It is now perfectly legal to make your own without Form 1s given the recent ruling. Just say you’re part of the GOA, even if you aren’t. Here are two of mine. Printed rimfire cans are great. >inb4 Feds will find out what I own cope.
Bought this along with tri lug tackle. Gunna put it on my m&p 15/22 and my AR9.Thoughts?
>>65490077Why are you people such massive pussies?
>>65504843Nice choice but why not go with the .45 to give you options? The noise with 9mm is basically the same.
>>65504959I don't own a 45. Would it have given me the same performance? Why even make a 9mm version?
>>65504843Mojave 9 is better in every way and your pistol optics don't get dirty as fast.
>>65505395You don't want to use a titanium 3d printed can on a rimfire due to lead fouling and never being able to get it out you fucking dummy
>>655054242 months from now, you'll be looking for a dedicated 22 suppressor. Multi-use suppressors never work out the way you think. You'll come to that realization later. By then you'll have a decent 22 suppressor and a mediocre 9mm suppressor.
>tfw Illinois
I’m still waiting on my suppressor shop order to ship out to my FFL. How long does it normally take?
>>65505462i made the same mistake, too. i bought one can for like 4 different calibers. then another $300 in adapters.like you said, a couple months later, i was already buying dedicated suppressors.
>>65495407>massive gapDo you have a pic of the five seven w/ the suppressor?
Has the ATF still not given guidance? I know all the free states are able to do whatever but I am stuck in libtarded NC.
>>65505743If you ordered from Silencer Shop the wait was about a month. No bullshit. And don't even bother emailing or calling about a shipping update, they don't answer emails or calls.
>>65505743>>65506829>tfw capitol armory delivered my shit to my door 3 weeks after the order date
>>65506841Never using Silencer Shop again. They have the doggest of shit customer service.
>>65506880Have you considered crying more? They mailed mine in like a week, if that lol.
>>65506895>CLEO notification requires a week waitstop shilling Capitol Armory is just better full stop
It really sucks all the lgs near me will only do 4473’s on silencer shop products only. I can’t buy from anywhere elseAt least it’s a better choice than me getting cucked out of buying a 4473’d suppressor in a NFA state
>>65499610>>65503759Oregon here, and same situation. Snowball's chance in hell they'll change the state law either, they're still trying to force through the tremendously unpopular Measure 114 despite it being blocked in court multiple times and being opposed by the majority of the population after only passing by less than a percent because of an extremely deceptively-worded ballot entry.
I just bought my first can and now im thinking about buying one of those short cans to ccw every day. What would be the best smol can that will be hearing safe?Not really interested in the wipe or wet run systems. I work outdoors and sometimes I just like shooting jackrabbits in the head with my pistol. I dont want to be continually having to re jelly or wipe my suppressor just because I cranked off a round at work. I also got permission from the state to shoot the elk and deer that are destroying muh corn. And while I intend to use a rifle, I don't always have one on me. So one that can handle the buffalo bore sportsman 9mm +p would be nice. Its subsonic out of a 3 inch barrel
>>65489901>Another all other nothing faggot who doesn't understand that demanding all or nothing usually gets you nothing
>>65507702Small silencers aren't hearing safe.>+p>subsonic out of a very short barrelWhy bother with +p if you want it to be subsonic?
>>65507888>Why bother with +p if you want it to be subsonic?because he doesn't understand what +p or subsonic means, and instead thinks bullets are magically slowed by suppressors upon use
>>65507888>>65507899Because a bullet can be sub sonic and still be high pressure. i shouldn't have to to someone who is on an 18+ board and is presumably an adult that a 147 grain bullet needs more charge to get up to speed than a 115 grain bullet. For comparison, a Winchester whitebox 147 grain bullet has a velocity of 990 fps out of whatever test barrel Winchester uses. Pump up the pressure and you will get a faster round and better performance. But it will still be sub sonic out of ccw barrel lengths. The speed of sound is roughly 1,125–1,130 fps around 68–70°F.Lower temperatures can lower the super sonic threshold. But i don't wanna get into that right now. It would have to drop to -15° to be super sonic
>>65488888Now how the hell would you propose I do that in a communist state? I think you're forgetting some of us live in liberal land and frankly it's insensitive to celebrate the victories denied us. It's completely impossible to get a hearing safety device in some places you know. I have no remedy to this and I must jsut sit and accept my overlord's fiat. I may also owe them my votes for the children, blind, crippled, or crazy.
>>65506829>>65506841>browse gun deals dot com>find good suppressor deal >usually only buy when $300 - $400 less than on mainstream suppressor dealers>sometimes free shipping/no additional tax too>send to local FFL who has is backed by silencer shop2-4 days after purchase, get email asking for a e-signature with ATF>sign and process is automatically started>1-2 days later get email from ATF saying "Approved">same day get call from local shop telling me that my suppressor is ready for pickup>$100 transfer fee and still paying way less than on Capitol Armory or any of the other big shops>total time is usually less than 6 daysI know there's extra steps here but guys it's not hard.
>>65508101you can't buy a velos for less than i paid on capitol armory as far as i'm awaregot the 250 dollar silencerco gift card too
>>65507990I'm going back to school for machining and it's annoying realizing how many things I could easily make now but it's a college so I'd get insta-expelled if I made anything even remotely firearms-related. One dude made a bipod last term and even that was iffy and the staff had to talk it over before they decided it was OK. They won't even let me bring in a stripped lower so I can engrave SBR numbers on it or anything.
>>65508157I brought in a pistol frame to unbend on their arbor pressProfessor was okay with it as long as I did it after hours and didnt mention it to anyone
>>65508116Yes you can.Just keep running the search, and you will eventually. Gun Broker too, but only buy from established stores, and not individuals.There is zero reason to go the CA route especially with the delay it takes to get your suppressor. They also have the audacity to charge $40 for shipping on their suppressors that they've already listed for top dollar.You can feed the suppressor jew all you want, but not me.
>>65505016Virtually the same. You can put a 9mm end cap on the .45 version also. You won’t be disappointed with the 9mm only but the option to have .45 later is nice. I have the 45 version and it suppresses 147gr 9mm very well
>>65508289>and didnt mention it to anyoneYOU RAT BASTARD
>>65507888147gr +P is still subsonic
What is the best 300BLK suppressor currently available? I've been wanting to get a 300BLK barrel for my MCX to complete the LVAW vibes but need a good can
>>65506895Whose cock did you have to suck for that to happen? From the sounds of your attitude, every employee in the store and warehouse.
>>65506390Attached with the 1/2 x 28 adapter.
>>65509953It's like the /k/ version of the /o/ panel gap meme.
do any of you use something to coat the inside of your suppressors before firing so cleanup is easier?i've seen people use welder's anti-splatter spray, anti-seize lube, trailer bearing grease, baked-on clp's, etc
>>65511595>cleaningi just treat it well and don't run steel case through it and it should be fine
>>65511709anon, i don't have a velos (nor do i plan on getting one, you shill)it would be for a 22lr, which you can't fucking do that on. i don't mind cleaning, and i also don't mind making it easier on myselfso while i understand you're happy to try bragging about your new toy, i am not in the same position to lack such care
>>65511595I don't take preventive measures, but cleaning is usually easy.Don't spend money on the Breakthrough stuff. Get yourself a can of Berryman Chem-Dip Carburetor Parts Cleaner. Much cheaper option, and equally as effective, if not better (also equally as cancerous - wear gloves).Use this to soak the carbon out of the suppressor. If you're worried about getting lead deposits out, go with a ultrasonic cleaner. I picked one up years ago for use in my hangar, and I use it all the time for so many things. Extremely worth the price. The bigger it is, the more useful it is.
>>65511709>don't run steel case through itwhy would the suppressor care about the cartridge material?
>>65495619Lol
>>65499041Wtf is this gif real?
>>65512921It just highly tends to be dirtier ammo on average
>>65512921it's generally dirty as fuck and p sure it has a polymer coating that i'd prefer not gumming up my suppressor that shit will turn your bolt black in a couple mags
>>65511709I think I also remember a TFBTV interview of a SiCo rep saying the Velos needs no cleaning at all. Think I might get that velos 762 after all
WHAT?
>>65488888Nah. In strictly practical terms, I’m not up for a Russian land mine type event.
>>65513196I wish you would buy the obsolete velos so you can shut the fuck up about wanting to buy one.
>>65512955wolf polyformance is polymer-coated, but most steel case is lacquered. it comes out with solvents. it is fuckin dirty though.
>>65515637I already have the 556, stinky.
>>65515658i believe tulammo is now polymer coated as well
>>65491593lmao
>>65494800>5x7was thinking of getting one as my first handgunYou like it?
>>65515729nta but I like my FN 5.7. Getting one as your very first handgun is an odd move desu.
>>65515705We know.
>>65504831Based man among men>>65513459Cringe coward who should be deported to Yurope
>>65505462>>65501398>>65499041Love my OCL Ti22. I just huck the baffles in a dinky rock tumbler with steel pins and dish soapy water and forget about it for two days while it spins on my counter. Fuck suppressor solvents, I breathe enough carcinogens at the range thanks.
https://x.com/GunOwners/status/2100706366645997921 Someone smarter than me explain #whatdatmean Also bump i guess
>>65518908I care way more about the Jenson ruling and Form 1 stuff tbhfam
>>65512921steel cases contain steel bullets, "bi-metal" is slightly more than a wash of copper.
>>65519644Why would your silencer care about the bullet material? They're not supposed to touch.
>>65521811Anon the bullet shears of parts of itself from being compressed through a metal tube at 1000+ feet per second. Retard
wtf bullets are you shooting lmao
>>65522239>t. retard
>>65488888Can I fire .410 through a .45 can?
>>65522774only once
I picked this Gen 2 MPX up for a steal. It came with the 8 and 4.5 inch barrels, 12 mags and the Romeo 7. It does have some issues with the bolt catch being super gummed up with something from the previous owner but I can tackle that later. I'm having decision paralysis when it comes to a can. I'm not opinionated or picky enough with dedicated pistol cans to have an easy choice so I need some helpCriteria I have is>Plan B adaptable and has chamber depth that will fit a Jmac 360HD muzzle brake>Roughly the size of a Surefire RC2>Doesn't require a ton of tuning to get right>Easy to find. I don't want to spend weeks/months waiting on a print houseI'm open to suggestions for traditional baffle and flow through style cans. I'm agnostic to build materials. My top two choices right now are the Huxwrx Flow 9k and the Silencerco Spectre 9. I'm worried the flow 9k doesn't suppress very well but I also don't want to spend a ton of money on an adjustable gas valve just to have an expensive wear part that has mixed durability at best. I'd rather just get stronger recoil springs because those don't want to erode as you shoot.
>>65523214Forgot picture, I'm retarded
>>65523214>>65523216Alternatively, should I just buy the Huxwrx first because it's the easiest to deal with and if I don't like it, find a different host for it and then try the Spectre 9? Or is the CAT Mob really that good?
>>65488888Does anyone get surreal and existential feelings watching this gif?
>>65523214look for hybrid designs that balance noise suppression and backpressure. Don't get a traditional baffle stack, not in this day and age, and not for 9mm.That silencer syndicate guy just released a huge comparison of PCC suppressors. unfortunately he's focused on sound and not so much backpressure. In the end they simply say that one of their top suppressor picks should have lower backpressure, but it's not scientific or measured. If you want to use the suppressor on handguns and a carbine then get a suppressor made for pistols.If you want a suppressor just for the carbine, then get a larger one with more volume.
>>65524489Just for the MPX, I don't shoot handguns suppressed.I was also looking ath he Huxwrx 36M because it is larger and is closer to the RC2 in size. The OCL milkman is ugly to me but it seems to be a really good balance
>>65498605Someone makes an HEL E4A clone? Neat.>it's heavy, not very quiet, high in back pressure, and just over $1k.Well I guess it's good I want to get one of the Allen Engineering AEM line reflex silencers for my M16 clone instead. How bad is the HEL for noise? 20"? The AE clone surprised me in a 9 Hole video where IIRC Henry took his muffs off, even.
>>65509416I've been hunting for almost a year now for a dedicated INTERMEDIATE 30 caliber suppressor, optimized for 300blk subs/supers and 7.62x39 subs/supers. It is so fucking annoying because legit 90% of 30 caliber cans are designed for suppressing FULL SIZE 30 caliber cartridges like 7.62x51 NATO, .308 etc and as such are way too long, heavy, and large for optimized use on intermediate 30 caliber platforms. I spent like $950 on a fucking Jaguar Faguar Fatty Inconel 7.62 and the piece of shit is so fucking le hecking low back pressure my brain too smoove to swap a buffer and spring and/or install an adjustable gas system product that it a) isn't that quiet at the muzzle because low back pressure meme shit and b) it cycles 300blk subs VERY poorly requiring a ton of gas resulting in a sharp high peak amplitude recoil impulse. Anyway, unironically the SiCo Omega 300 is probably still a decent can for the money. SiCo STM Scythe (NOT titanium) seems decent also. The TiTrex 300 SD seems solid but ugly and stupid expensive. Don't fall for low back pressure shit, I'll tell ya as much.
>>65524523Decided on the Range 36Ti, I'll be ordering one soon if Scheels doesn't have one in stock
>>65526476>Don't fall for low back pressureWhy's that? nta but I've also been looking for a 300blk suppressor. I don't want to inhale clouds of gas. The Omega 300 was on my list but I was also looking at the Velos.
>>65526570I can't talk about the velos 7.62 but I have a full size velos 5.56 and I really love it.
>>65526570>>65526573velos mogs
>>65526573>>65526579I like it because it can go on any of my 5.56 guns with a plan b muzzle device and I don't have to have them tuned to shoot with or without exclusively. It lives on an 11.5" full time but I have a Mini 14 and a 14.5" M4gery that I throw it on from time to time.
>>65526437I haven't actually shot it yet.I'm wrapping up my A1 build. Hopefully in the next 2-3 weeks I can go shooting.I thought about the AE suppressors, but quickly dismissed them for the A1 project. I'm a purist, I want it to be as accurate as I can make it. So it was either a HEL-E4A or nothing.
>>65527305>haven't shot yetAh, well, always interested to hear when you do. I'd go clone correct (pic, see left column around the middle) but I just like the reflex. Seems to be more advanced and maybe more internal volume. Also shorter FWIW.>A1 buildHey, just wondering. Do your (assuming surplus) A1 handguards fit normal delta rings? I don't have a straight ring (yet) and I'm going to be using A1 handguards I got a while ago and they barely seem to go in the delta ring when I strip it and put it on by hand. The only thing I can think os that in pics a lot of the round rear of the guards do stick out and I'm just used to how deep later not so tapered guards are clamped by the delta ring. That or it could be the fact that one side has rounded tabs on the slots and the other has squared off tabs. Can't complain when they were like half the then common market price years ago though.
>>65491593>You probably don't even hear it when it happens>Smash cut to flying bug impaling the extra
>>65498605Neat. what's in the manual?
>>65504831I'm looking to form 1 a 3d printed can. Aluminum sleeve to slip over for strength.How do the direct threads hold up? Any filament recommendations? I am considering doing an adapter with a larger thread that the 1/2-28 goes into, so it's not wearing on the plastic directly.
>>65528179What the suppressor should be used for and how it works.How to install maintain it.Also, how to destroy it to prevent capture by the enemy.
>>65529836These were the only pics I took.
>>65527713I couldn't tell you about the handguards from personal experience. I'm not an AR guy. These are literally my only ARs, and I probably won't get anymore.However, i have seen people install the old triangle handguards on newer delta rings.But there's plenty of video/forum sources with tips and tricks on handguard installation. I think brownells sells a special tool to give you leverage. It could just be a tricky/tight fit install, and not an issue with incompatible parts.
>>65524489That’s what I want for for (AR-9) so I’ll probably go with an R9 or one of the older style cans. There was that one inconel one did good for PCC’s and was around $400?
>>65529836Nice "enemy" hat. Weird they stopped wearing those.
>>65529881>I couldn't tell you about the handguards from personal experience. I'm not an AR guy.Damn.>However, i have seen people install the old triangle handguards on newer delta rings.That's encouraging.>It could just be a tricky/tight fit install, and not an issue with incompatible parts.Oh I have this ring and handguards loose. I actually pulled the ring clip, spring, and toothed center piece out of it. The ring is just tight on the handguards and doesn't slip far over them like I expect from using carbine handguards and IIRC how A2s sit installed. Worst comes to worst I end up modifying a $20 ring next spring if they don't work when I get to trying triangular handguards on my new upper. Also yeah I think I'm going to DIY that tool. I should get it but Fall means cash is tight because I'm hunting (buying gear) and preparing for winter (buying even more expensive gear).
>>65526570The Omega will be more quiet than the Velos, $300-$400 cheaper, 3-4oz lighter.... and with proper tuning the artificially increased dwell time would allow in theory you to restrict the gas at the port using an adjustable gas block and get a longer smoother recoil impulse rather than a high peak amplitude punchy impulse.
I just bought an AAC Ti-Rant 45M and Griffin EZ-LOK adapters to use with my HK45CT for Gravy SEALs LARPing. What am I in for?
Today’s the day I pick up my first suppressor on a 4473, and after I drove 40 minutes to the store I realized I somehow LEFT my drivers license at home.I’m so fucking pissed. Now I have to do another round trip to pick up my suppressor
Your choice for a Mac 11/9 supp? Pic related by bc I said so.. The idea is to install an FRT and FINALLY be as cool as The Duke.
>>65532484I haven't tested this but seen a lot of videos on the low back pressure suppressors and it seems that low back pressure is only good for ARs that can't modify the gas block(like military or LE) or people that are afraid the suppressor will blow off the end someday and want something to run without the suppressor. Everyone else benefits the most from using a high or medium backpressure suppressor and just using an adjustable piston or bleed off gas block. Even websites like pewscience get wildly better numbers on SBRs when using something other than a mk18 oversized gas block. The whole debate surrounding "at the ear dB" seems to get nullified by suppressor manufacturers using their own guns for testing. This is the same suppressor, same barrel length, only difference is the gas block(and maybe the gas tube?).https://pewscience.com/sound-signature-reviews-free/sss-6-110-maxim-defense-dsx-mk18-556https://pewscience.com/sound-signature-reviews-free/sss-6-111-maxim-defense-dsx-surg-556
>>65488888No need, I bought all the cans I need back when wait times were 9+ months.
>>65540230Ah, the good ol' days. Back before all this gay shit.
>>65488888The quint OCHO! Looking forward to being able to order a can online. Any issues in FL?
>>65532484>>65540098Guess I might be getting the Omega then. Only hang up is that the Omega has a barrel length restriction so I feel like the Velos may be sturdier. Although that will probably never come up because I won't use anything beyond 308 (16" limit, and I'll have it on a 18"-20") on it and I'll never use a sub 10" 5.56. 300blk has a 7" limit but I suppose 8" is the sweet spot anyways.
>>65497678>>65503759 But how would happens if if this was overturned by the Supreme Court
>>65541291>But how would happens if if this
>>65541020Sico has an incredible warranty. They'll fix stupid atleast once, sometimes twice, and their cans are very durable. If you manage to break one of their cans they would probably be impressed.
>>65540098>>65541020>barrel length restrictionsThis doesn't mean anything practically speaking at this point in the industry. They Velos probably is a bit more sturdy, but SiCo has solid/excellent warranty service and from my understanding the Omega 300 at the minimum uses a stellite/inconel blast baffle, then perhaps stainless baffles for the rest of the stack. This is a totally acceptable configuration in my opinion.
>>65494800Get a tape and die set for $20 and run the 10mm on both.
>>65541008Check silencershop's website. A lot of dealers are only doing form 4. There's some doing 4473, but you have to call around. In central florida the only one I've seen doing the new system is brazilian santa.
>>65542480Who the hell is Brazilian Santa? Central FL btw
>>65488888I'm poor so either way a suppressor still ain't in my budget.
>>65542949.22LR cans are starting around $200+ and should come down.
>>65494800Weird, I haven’t had any issues with my GSL cans
>>65537196Obv GSL
>>65543438AIM just posted about Silent Strike and Next Level Armament 22LR silencers. $120 and $127. No clue about how they sound or clean up but fuck.
>>65542915He brings christmas early this year with his big long beard, mr armas. Enter a central orlando zip code in the silencershop search, should pop up as one of the few not requiring form 4s. Call him or visit, he should be able to make it happen. I think if you use him to order the suppressor it should go faster(no extra 3 day wait) but I'm not 100% sure, ask him. He's a silencershop dealer. On the flip side you could buy from silencershop's website which is same price, but then you have to wait an 3 extra days after the item arrives.
>>65488888Nice digits, OP.Anyway, for all the gay paperwork I need, suppressors aren't classified as weapons and my license allows for using them (you didn't think the laws weren't at least a bit gay, did you?) so I have questions. Do I just slap a suppressor on everything? The bolt action rifle, the ar-15, the .22 lr shitter I might get? Are reflex suppressors better for the bolt action because there's less pain with aligning and I'll need to take it off semi-frequently? If the ar doesn't have an adjustable gas system is it not going to be happy about suppressors? Other than weight, balance and possible baffle strikes, what are the other downsides to suppressors?
>>65543438man I don't have a 22 that I can even thread onto anything.
>>65544471I may be retarded but can't reflex silencers have other alignment issues? Isn't that why the Allen Engineering silencers have that barrel collar? Depends on length in front of barrel too probably but still.>>65544963NTA but I was there like 2 years ago. Biggest pain in the ass is that I like vintage 22s and I need to choose whether I want to thread them or risk those sketchy ass adapters and trust my concentricity rod with my hearing and silencer and maybe rifle on the line. I mean, Maxims used them. But those adapters were probably a little nicer and the baffles a little wider drilled. Hope your screws don't back out or you don't smack a tree with your barrel. Thankfully I'm not at the point of threading old guns yet as I'm doing practical but cool modern guns first.And when I said I was there not too long ago, I mean it. I think my AR was the only threaded gun I owned! Followed by an AK and a 10/22.
>>65544471Suppressors are cool but kinda a meme. Nice for keeping the shooting noise down, can confuse animals when you're hunting which is neat, but they make your gun a lot dirtier. If you have a red dot on your pistol, it will get caked with residue from port pop. Best use case for suppressors is on manual guns of course, especially if you are shooting subsonic ammo. Also for a home defense gun so if you need to shoot someone you don't cause permanent hearing loss for everyone in your household.
16" .50BMG is being offered by Norreen with a $1600 .50can, thoughts?
>>65544963So get guns.$125/ea in 3 packs: https://silentstrikesuppressors.com/sss-22-lr/
>>65546118bingo. they're cool enough i guess, but i don't hunt and don't usually fire my guns next to people who aren't wearing ear protection.i'd rather wear ear protection and buy more guns instead of making a few of my firearms more quiet. having said that, I am going to suppress one of these Ruger 10/22s someday for funsies...
>>65546636So how does getting a suppressor even work now? I'll assume I have to be apart of the GOA to even get this sent to me easily?
Anyone got experience with the Canik Void line? Supposed to be the closest to the Infinity OCL could get in terms of flow through/low back pressure while still being traditional welded construction
>>65548048Majic 8 Ball says YES.
>>65526476>>65532484Wuggy, you're pretty alright, but you have bad taste in suppressors my guy. You buy this compromise shit then get disappointed when it doesn't work like you expect. Like that POS jaguar... why wouldn't you just buy a CAT ODB Ti? Or with your B&T, you buy a tiny titanium suppressor then get worried af when you see the start of baffle erosion... You're an informed dude, why do you make such bad choices on cans?
>>65548301He has a TBI
>>65548033Depends on your state. But yes.
>>65548540I live in the arKansas but without the ar.
>>65550558You live in a free state so you can get them on 4473. It may depend on your local FFL since I've heard some aren't doing it out of caution.
>>655157295.7 is an ok gun but is not a good first gun5.7 ammo is expensive, for your first pistol get something you can afford to shoot a lot
I managed to buy the only 9mm the local place had left. They already had a laptop dedicated to helping people sign up to the GoA and once i had a member number they let me just buy one right there with a 4473.Where's the best place to get a YHM RM9 compatible tri lug adapter for my turkshit?
>>65504831Most based man on /k/.
>>65550558So, Baja Texas.
>>655514495.7 ammo isn't that bad desu. Looking at SGAmmo at least. Sorting by low to high
>>65551679556 for comparison
>>65551679Okay, and that's 2.5x times the cost of cheap bras 9mm which can regularly be had for .20cpr on sales.
>>65551731>2.5x times the cost of cheap bras 9mmAnd 4.5x the performance. Keep counting pennies and paper holes, and I'll focus on performance. If all you want to do is shoot dirt and laptops, 9mm is great.
>>65550989What suppressor and basically what cheap 22 pistol should I even get since im not a man filled with cash.
>>65553145Depends what you're looking for. Do you want something like maximum sound performance, lightweight, durable? etc. Sonicore has cheap as fuck suppressors but of course they're far from what most people would consider good. I'm personally of the "buy once cry once" philosophy
>>65553169I honestly have zero clue man
>>65553172You should think on it instead of going off recommendations from anons desu. Give you some time to save up for a good can if you want
>>65552730>4.5x the performanceThis is not even close to being true.
>>65552730The civilian 5.7 ammo can't even beat 3a armor out of a pistol. It's a garbage round.
Aren't suppressors basically just movie slop? From what I gather they only reduce the noise a little bit and are barely worth using at all.
>>65553680Nah, they definitely make some calibers hearing safe with no real drawbacks. With subsonic 9mm they are usually hearing safe. With .22, even supersonic, they're quiet as fuck, and ringing a steel target is louder than the muzzle report. It's also great for people outside of city limits, but still somewhat close to their neighbors. I don't have one on my rifle because I'm left handed and don't want to get a face full of gas, but they definitely bring the noise down noticeably.
>>65553680They 100% help and reduce risk of hearing damage even for supersonic calibers. Especially for subsonic rounds, they're kinda crazy. I went to the range and saw some dude with a suppressed. 300blk. Was very quiet.
>>65553680besides the noise aspect, they cut down a lot of the blast, so standing next to one firing isn't ass
>>65554042But I like ass.
>>65553388Right but I'm just eager to get one.
>>65554400If you want one just to have one, then maybe a cheap .22 SilencerCo can. I don't have any 22 can myself but SiCo is good quality.
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>>65554571I think I'll save up since I just decided to bite the bullet and get a safelite window repair which should tell you my stupidity in life.
>>65555369Probably for the best. $200 wasted on a cheap can is $200 less you can spend on a good one
>>65555462Yeah, what's funny is I remember the start of this suppressor stuff with the removal of the stamp and I commented on a Hop video on the basics of suppressors or some shit where I said im too dumb to file the paper work, and now we're here.
I bought a new silencer from silencershop a week ago, and it's been "in transit" to my LGS for like five business days at this point. Not sure if they will let me transfer it on a 4473 or not since they told me a month ago they were going to wait until the ATF said anything.
>>65499041>>65501398>>65516620I hit up the LGS and ended up going with a Dead Air Mask 22. I was thinking about a Sparrow 22, but I've read online about it being notorious for having a first round pop, though it's not the worst thing in the world. Still, I figured I might as well put in a little more cash and get something marginally quieter.
>>65557620Bitch is onna get fat.
>>65546636>rimfire can that's not meant to be disassembledThat explains why they're sold by the pack I suppose.
>>65553145Ruged oculous and a ruger Mk 4.Any 22 can will probably be "good" these days but I like one that can be fully disassembled and is made of stainless steel so you can drop it into a supersonic bath instead of working it by hand.
>>65558336That suppressor is the easiest type to manufacture. The core and mounting threads are made from one piece of roundstock, the tubing is held in place by the nut on the end. It can 100% be disassembled in like 5 seconds. No idea why they say not to.
>>65558589Probably because they suck lol
>>65557620I love my mask. CCI 1050 down to like 10" is basically silent in semi auto. IIRC 2" is okay but not what I'd call comfortable for more than a few rounds and is highly ammo, gun, silencer, and location (immediate surroundings) specific. Not sure if I tried the Mask on 2". First round pop for the Mask is very good. I use it on my hunting rifle.
>>65488917Here in TN the wording is "in accordance with NFA guidelines", so we're full do-as-thou-wilt for SBRs, SBSs, and suppressors.
>>65557635Good.
Just bought a Dead Air Mojave 9
>>65564797Good choice. You won't regret it.
Did anyone grab one?>supposed to be available at 8pm>actually goes up at 7:55>site explodes>they all go out of stock near instantly
Getting into a new corner of gun culture always comes with more fucking retard boomer fuddlore.Is it actually bad to use a suppressor with a booster on a fixed barrel? People are saying it increases the chances of baffle strikes but i dont understand how it wont also just fuck up even worse on a tilting barrel. Is it just some consoomer culture thing forcing us to spend more money?
>>65488888You need more?
So since 4473s are a go, does that mean if you're in a state with no additional restrictions you can just start making them in the garage?
>>65567157we'll see how this dudes dog holds up, but it's looking promising. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSvizrYVibk
>>65494800A thread pitch gauge will save you a lot of headaches if you ever deal with mechanical stuff.Most of my mechanical headaches have come from not using one
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>>65567206>click video>obese mystery meat mutt with the worst facial hair in the world>size XXXL shirt with an iron on transfer of an AI Generated image>the relevant topic isnt even a whole minute long and nothing of value was said, not even his own opiniontheres like three other "gun news" sites that are legitimately identical i cant believe you fuckers watch this shit
>>65567229i posted the vid for you adhd zoomers who needed to be spoonfed, here's the source, i think, i couldn't read very far because my eyes were burning. https://www.r*dd*t.com/r/3D2A/comments/1w4nb2w/glutton_for_punishment_ftn_51_pcc_in_ht_pla_pro/
>>65558529Almost 50/ bucks for a 22 suppressor?
>>65566815I don't know about the baffle strike thing, but if you use a can with a booster on a fixed barrel then it will reciprocate back and forth as you fire and look really stupid.
That ftw still have to wear ear plugs at the public range
>>65568205>using no ear pro with suppressorsYou do understand that outside of maybe 22lr, every other caliber is still in the "damage your ears" range, right? Just because your ears didn't ring doesn't mean you didn't just get a bit closer to EEEEEEEE.
>>65568282God damn I hate how you have to preface every fucking post with full context. Yes I mean 22. God dammit it’s like promoting AI to actually do what you want, except it’s trying to avoid mother fuckers trying to be edgy or smartass or know-it-alls. Holy shit I need to make a copilot skill just to post on this fuck ass site.
>>65568167You can get a fixed insert so it can't reciprocate but that's a lot of work to avoid the simple task of removing the booster from the muffler.
>>65569196the booster is what screws on to the threads in the barrel, specifically the piston, which only contacts the actual body of the suppressor with a spring"removing the booster" implies putting something else in its place, such as a direct thread adapter that screws on to the body of the suppressor and also screws on to the barrel, which goes for around a hundred dollars for common threadings.A spacer insert is 30-40 bucks and might be a better option until you remember that nobody is going to be looking at you shooting in slow motion.
