Previous:>>65427199What are FRTs:Forced Reset Triggers (FRTs) are firearm modifications that allow semi-automatic rifles to fire more rapidly by automatically resetting the trigger after each shot, while still requiring a trigger pull for each round. They increase the rate of fire without converting the firearm into a fully automatic weapon.List of platforms that offer FRT/Super Safety support or are currently in development, footage and recommended distributed sellers.https://kg2g.github.io/FRTINFO/webpage/FRTINFO.htmlRecent News:- 3 position Trigger Kicker is teased- HK G36 22LR is released by duality arms co- Selectable Glock FRT released by G-Force CNC Solutions- Selectable Canik FRT teased by Advanced Reset Tech- Browning 1917 / 1919 FRT released by Appalachian Arms- Two round burst and progressive TX22 FRT teased by Advanced Reset Tech- FS2000 3 position FRT released by Izhmash Arms
>>65492239Are people unironically putting frts in their carry guns?
good news regarding nitter
>>65492250I would seriously hope not
>>65492256I was watching an armed attorneys video and they mentioned they were at a gun show and a guy was making bank because he was installing frts into people presumed carry guns
>>65492297whelp, selling to retards do make money historically
Browning 1919 FRT install videohttps://odysee.com/browning-frt:0
I think I'll just go for asd mp5 lower with an ss and wait for the arhk when it gets a version 2.
>>65492687what changes you think the version 2 will have?
>>65492715Mostly cosmetic to make the levers look closer to the original hk ones.
Did the AHRK get released? The webpage now has lever options and says out of stock.
>>65492880not yet, but it appears that they are gearing up for the release
>>65492890>>65492880UPDATE 9/7Production is complete and we are waiting for parts to arrive to our facility to start building. Exact drop date will be announced on product page as well as ig and fb as soon as we start building.
I bought the Arizona Regulator because I was looking to build AR clones and wanted a period correct exterior.One issue I had was the finish of the AZ Reg kit, it was too black for my tastes. You can see in the pic the difference between original M16A1 and AZ Reg finishes. You can use a milspec full auto safety. The milspec trigger too, but you have to cut a small notch on the back of the trigger assembly to fit the AZ Reg disconnector. Alternatively, you can use a milspec disconnector, but you'll need a dremel to trim it down.
>>65492968I assembled my XM177E2 kit first. I used all the parts from the AZ Reg kit. Trigger, disconnector, and hammer. I refinished the AZ reg parts (except hammer) with the same moly resin I used for the receiver. So far it function tests OK. After I put my A1 kit together I'll take both out for a range report
>>65492980One thing I also had to do on the AZ Reg safety was grind down the index marker on the RH side of the safety as the Vietnam-era rifles didnt have that.
>>65492980Forgot to mention I also used the AZ reg safety.
>>65492968>>65492980>>65492984That looks great!
what does s3igu2 mean by this?
>>65493017Thanks. I suspect the XM177E2 will need a heavier buffer, but we'll see.Had the two AR projects for roughly 7 years. These are my only ARs. I tried to be as period correct as possible. Even going as far as getting the 80% lower marked with a hydraulic press to replicate roll marks instead of using a laser engraver.The M16A1 will be the real challenge. I have a HEL-E4A suppressor I'll keep on it full time, getting it tuned with a full back pressure suppressor and a FRT will be interesting.
>>65493654>More dumb side quests instead of working on the 249 triggerVery cool to see why it's going to take another year.
Red star Palmetto AUG trigger was supposed to ship 2 days ago, according to his site, but no updates yet.
>>65492251xcancel.com is already back up and running
>>65494594Email them and go "Hey I noticed we're past the automated system's ship time window. Will this be shipping soon?Hope Labor Day went well!"They were probably closed Labor Day and catching up Tuesday with older orders than yours, but never hurts to ask
>>65494489>More dumb side quests instead of working on the G36 triggerFTFY
>>65494489you have a 249? There are like 6 people working on it
>>65495040No updates from rare breedCustom Smith abandoned the projectMotus devs doesn't have enough money to get the prototypes madeASD will inevitably abandon itThe guy in the sticky is using AI to make it look like he's shooting the gun in his demo videoReally black pilled on this one. Starting to think I should just sell the 249, get an MFR56 and call it a day.
>>65495083>The guy in the sticky is using AI to make it look like he's shooting the gun in his demo videoactually? have proof of this? I'll remove it if true
>>65495101You can clearly see where the video switches to AI at 1:53. Look at this "muzzle flash" it added coming out of the link ejection port.Also you can update the SCAR in the sticky. The ASD design is no longer a separate lower. It's just a modified ARC-Fire now.
>>65495125Alright fair enough, those items will be updated. Thanks for the feedback
>>65495134You're welcome based FaRTSauSage sticky anon.
>>65495083>>65495040he's still working on it, s3igu2 just posted this today
wen Vz58? I remember multiple guys working on that and they all went radio silent months ago.
Complete newbie to FRTs, my brother got a couple of hoffman trigger kickers and is sending one my way. How do these stack up to other options? Anything I should know about? It'd be going into a basic PSA 16" carbine upper on an Anderson lower with a mil-spec trigger.
>>65496526That guy hasnt posted in a while
>>65496777make sure you have at least a h2 buffer and enough gas, other than that be safe when shootingalso it's only two position for now, as in safe and FRT only
>>65496833he's right they also copied the lever blocker
>>65492250Unironically why wouldn't I? If I'm in a self defense situation where I'm otherwise legally allowed to shoot, why wouldn't I just dump an entire mag in half a second? It's probably within speaking distance so most of the shots are on target and sounds better to me than taking x number of deliberate individual trigger pulls. Those situations like the mall shooting at a long range is the only case where I'd be thankful for single shot only
>>65496914because you are way likely to shoot someone else by accident and FRTs in pistols arent super reliable
>>65494489I see we’ve strayed from the teachings of John Moses Browning
>>65496914Because in a self-defense situation you still own and are liable for every bullet that leaves your gun. That means collateral damage up to and including shooting a bystanders is going to be on you. A FRT in a pistol is harder to control than a single shot, combine that with a massive dose of adrenaline and you can see how shit could go sideways pretty fast. That is assuming the tuning on the pistol is rock solid so that it doesn't shit the bed when you need it.
>>65496959JMB (bless) would want us to FRT beltfeds not shoulder fired fiddys.>M2 FRT when
>>65495083It's unlikely everyone is just going to abandon it - theres enough M249's out there to make money. You're just going to have to face the music that multiple AR belties as well as HK21 and HK23's and likely the MG42/MG3 will have good solid FRT's long before you do so adjust accordingly.There's too much SAW parts and accessories to justify getting rid of it, you should modernize it in the meantime with the short para barrel (SBR)and the collapsible stock and rail handguard
>>65497419>Modernize your 249Just need a light and maybe some BEAMZ then it'll be complete.>MG42The semi auto conversions barely function to begin with. Someone will have to come up with something drastically different to make them viable.
>>65494489I feel like he can walk and chew gum at the same time
Still waiting on my cp33 FRT.
>>65497898surprised this isnt out yet
bump
>>65496929>>65497371How many bystanders are around, behind or between a murderous maniac and me? All 3 of my encounters have just been a me and him or it scenario where any stray shots would hit a street or building at worst. 9 milly isn't penetrating a billion houses and ending a family of 10, its causing minor utilitarian or housing damage in any sense where you'd have to pull a gun
>>65499335FBI stats most gunfights involve an average of 2 to 3 rounds fired. I dont think a FRT is needed for this.Another reason not to is like what I said earlier, pistol FRTs are not reliable. You pull to hard on the trigger, you get a malfunction. This is because it's not a machine gun.
>>65499345>pistol FRTs are not reliableI agree but am responding on the viable concept that they can and will be with development. My argument is that that if you need to put a bullet in someone or something you may as well put 10 or 15 or whatever you're carrying through an (almost) automatic feature, it'd be equally justifiable
Noob hereWhat (3 position) supersafety will work the best in a Radical?Reliabilty > durability > everything elseAnd do you guys recommend an H1 or an H2 buffer?
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>>65499451H2, any super safety made with good materials should work well
>>65500402So I shouldnt have any issues with an Atrius then?
>>65500903no, just make sure your low reciever has a low shelf or m16 shelfWhat I would recommend over the atrius though is the ARC Fire as it is more robust and costs the same and has the same requirements. It also comes with a cut trigger so you dont have to worry about that.
If a SS is not working in semi having to manual recock and will fire bursts 3-9 at a time on SS but will stop at needing to recock on a live round what should be looked at first? In a m16 pocket lower with a full auto BCG. H1 and H3 buffers have been tried. 3d printed center is on the SS but is not tight to the sides package came with a cut trigger.
>>65500952make sure your disconnector spring is on correctly, possible you need the upper part cut or you can use the quarters trick.check this outhttps://activesafetydesigns.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/folders/158000991910
>>65500917Its between the ARC and the Atrius for meI was under the assumption that the Atrius doesnt need a cut trigger, is that not true?
>>65500972that's correct. If you really dont want to take your trigger out at all for some reason, then sure atrius would be better. The ARC fire comes with a cut trigger though but of course your would have to replace your current trigger with it.If the deciding factor for you is based on not wanting to replace the trigger then atrius would be the option
>>65500967Everything is looking correct the disconnector spring looks a little bent not sure if that would matter. I'm thinking its the 3d printed centering block as it never fit right in the receiver. Others have said it can cause dead trigger which is what was happening. I heard some people use a earpiece to center it or just run nothing.
>>65501466Trigger spring is on backwards
>>65502251Thanks bro that was the issue :)
>>65499370>you may as well put 10 or 15 or whatever you're carrying through an (almost) automatic feature, it'd be equally justifiableWhile technically true, I doubt a prosecutor's office would see it that way in most cases.Yeah I'm fully aware of the two cases Ayoob wrote about, one where some guy was being chased down by a motorcycle gang and the other where some gunshop owner responded to a ram-and-grab robbery where some scumbags had driven a car through the wall of his gunshop to open the place up.Neither of those was a random mugging attempt by a single criminal or a robbery in some restaurant. Both were in 2A-friendly jurisdictions, and in both cases the defenders had the time to prepare and think about how they were going to handle the actual shooting part.Fire off a burst from your Glock in the middle of downtown Chicongo and, well, sure that's pretty normal, but most of those cases involve dirtbags who don't care about the consequences and whose bodies produce enough melanin that the Soros-owned prosecutor won't charge them, unlike you.
So if I'm planning on building an mp5 clone, the ARKH is the one I should be looking at?
>>65502899yeah
PMXS 3 position FRT in development by Duality Arms Co
ABSOLUTELY HUGE"The Wrangeler" by The Triggered Company. A 3-position, drop-in cassette trigger for the AK platform. Inspired by Pyotr Wrangel, last commander of the White Army who stood against the Communists during the Bolshevik Revolution. Murdered by Communist agents in 1928, he was defiant to the end and the epitome of Better Dead than Red.
Thoughts and or experiences with the Samurai Firearms KIKASS FRS?
>>65504164Absolutely based. Would love an AK FRT but I am retarded/lazy and working on AKs makes me sad. This might be my cure. Would post a pic but I seem to have lost my copy of Always with Honor.
>>65504665Never mind. Was on my other bookshelf.
>>65504651I read some impressions on reddit, seems well built. The product is way too new to get a lot of information on it though. Some great features too, world with low and high shelf and there is a version of it that works with Geissele triggers with no blocker and no cuts needed
>>65504011>FRT in developmentAll I want is Uzi Model A, Mac11/9 and BAR FRT. WHY are they punishing me?
>>65504667that's pretty cool
Anyone working on a saiga 12 trigger?
bamp
>>65505671maybe the new cassette will work? There isnt any documentation for this firearm
Hoffman new post
s3igu2 again teases the SCAR
>>65492239Is that a Gen 2 19 or 17?
>>65508154i would say 17 because the drum fit flush
>>65508159Based. I’ve got a Gen 2 17. Thanks anon.
xcancel is down again
Fostech teasing a forced reset trigger for the ar-15.Looks like cassette but with a different type of lever in the back for the reset. looks interesting.they have patents that pre-date anything rare breed owns.
>>65510161this one is two position only yeah?
>>65510166hard to say for sure with only the teaser. but i'm thinking it will be 3 position. in the shooting the selector is in the 180 degree position from safe. and in the short time you can see some parts of the cassette, it looks like there's multiple tails for the selector to interact with like other similar products. but still hard to see.
bunch of fucking clowns
>>65499345>FBI stats most gunfights involve an average of 2 to 3 rounds firedWe gotta get those numbers UP
>>65507989>triggerkickerHandgun maybe?
Anybody know what the best frt option is for the century ap5 navy? Got a line on one for unbelievable price.
>>65510854I went with L2 Prints because I wanted a trigger pack that matches.It works great, and is insanely fun. But you can tell it's life is limited. I've gone through over 2k rounds, and it's still working. Had to replace the plastic buffer the L2 FRT came with, as it was getting chewed up.I reccomend going with a drop-in, if you can find one. Or go with the AS designs SS lower, if you don't care about it looking gay.Do not change a fucking part in the gun. All that shit about locking pieces will ruin it. Out of the box, it will work flawlessly with a FRT and suppressor. Also, all that noise about QC problems at MKE is with the earlier guns. I have yet to have any issues with original parts.
>>65510161>they have patents that pre-date anything rare breed owns.Like that would stop them from suing lol
>>65504706Same brother, at least the uzi and macI'd love to need a BAR frt
I want an FRT for my WASR. Will one fit without a major headache? And would I need a AK Master Mount enhanced safety lever cut for a full auto sear?
>>65511070>I want an FRT for my WASR. Will one fit without a major headachedoesnt exist yet
>>65511081https://www.artakedowntool.com/products/ak-47-frt-super-safety-100-usa-made?
>>65511112if you can fit it without a major headache then good for you
>>65511283Is there any indication it would be a pain?
H2 or H3 buffer for 11.5 AR FRT? Super duty h2 good enough?
>>65511395I only ran H2 honestly and they work for my 11.5 carbine gas
>>65511398The black buffer for my KAC doesn't work, Idr if it's H1 or H2 though
>>65511395I personally have H3 and it "just werks."
>>65510161>>65510205>>65510979ok. looks like their website is updated. now it makes sense. they are putting a rare breed into their rifle from the factory if desired. obviously under license. I think this is the first time a rare breed trigger pack has been installed from the factory? interesting.
>>65512601>I think this is the first time a rare breed trigger pack has been installed from the factory?no, B&T is doing it with their 9mm PCCs and tipman now sells a AR22 with factory rarebreed
Besides an AR or a MP5, are there other guns that actually take an frt well and don't become super janky as a result (looking at you, kriss vector)?
>>65512608gotcha. thanks.
>>65512680yes, manyB&T PCCKunaAK if installed wellAUGTX22SKSand many more if you check the link in the OP
>>65504164Got any more info on this? Can find literally nothing
>>65512705There was a page by artakedowntool.com that had a lot of information stating that the trigger would be sold by them exclusively along with a sign up page. I signed up but the next day, the page was gone. The original IG post that announced it also seemed to be gone.My thinking is that maybe they announced it too early or something?
>>65512705from the AR15 forum>The Wrangeler will hit our webstore in October and to select dealers in phases as production numbers increase. We have confirmed compatibility with a large number of AK variants across a wide spectrum of models and manufacturers. Testing in additional models of AK will be an ongoing process, and results will be listed on our website. The Wrangeler is far different from existing AK triggers-It is a drop in 3 position cassette. Additional Wrangeler details will be released over the coming weeks so please subscribe to our social media and our newsletter. by a user called HelpfulGuerilla
>>65512722>October IT BEGINS
>>65512722>OctoberExcellent birthday gift for myself
>>65512695Texas Trigger p320 reaper. Very effective our the box.
VZ58 bros....AKMs finally go the last laugh no FRT made for our superior rifles...
>>65513275that's true, wish it was selectable but is what it isI have the selectable glock neo trigger, I need to go to the range soon and test it
>>65513722there was a guy working on it, not sure if he is anymore though
>>65513735Radio silence last time I saw. His website is was still incomplete
>>65513732I installed flat trigger in mine. Gives much better control, almost progressive in feel. Need to train with it but try it.
>>65514015any brand in particular?
I can't wait for selectable pistol FRTs. I will be EDCing one.
>>65514063there are at least two now, glock and m&p
>>65514063based and problem solva pilled
>>65507989that cannot possibly be Tim's post, he would have put that on his feet if it were.
>>65510161Can you list the patent numbers? I'd like to read them.
>>65514026Sig brand flat skeletonized. Simple. Works.
>>65514069The fuck is that frame
>>65514674>he doesn't carve his own glock frames from old pallet planks
>>65514356https://fostech.com/manuals-patents/
>>65514605thanks! looks like texas triggers also sells it
>>65515250Many thanks. I skimmed all of them. All of the trigger-related patents are for binary triggers, not for FRTs. There may be some overlap where the claims could read on Rare Breed's products and force a settlement, but none of them are about the same subtype of product that we call FRTs (or used to call them that before Rare Breed trademarked "FRT" -- now they're Forcibly Assisted Resettable Triggers, or FARTs).>>65510161>different type of lever in the back for the resetWell, good luck to them, just because they have a patent on something else doesn't give them any special privileges on a new product that they just came up with. Rare Breed pretty well locked down anything with a cam and a lever for the next 15 years.As far as "pre-date anything rare breed owns", their earliest patents are in the 8 million range. Rare Breed had one in the 7 million range which is now expired.
Why is it so expensive to build a p320 flux? The chassis is over $400 and even used p320s are about the same price. On top of the the Texas Trigger (although I hear it's great) is another $100.
>>65517941just use the strike industries products. they are cheaper and do 90% of the same thing.
