Previous:>>65427199What are FRTs:Forced Reset Triggers (FRTs) are firearm modifications that allow semi-automatic rifles to fire more rapidly by automatically resetting the trigger after each shot, while still requiring a trigger pull for each round. They increase the rate of fire without converting the firearm into a fully automatic weapon.List of platforms that offer FRT/Super Safety support or are currently in development, footage and recommended distributed sellers.https://kg2g.github.io/FRTINFO/webpage/FRTINFO.htmlRecent News:- 3 position Trigger Kicker is teased- HK G36 22LR is released by duality arms co- Selectable Glock FRT released by G-Force CNC Solutions- Selectable Canik FRT teased by Advanced Reset Tech- Browning 1917 / 1919 FRT released by Appalachian Arms- Two round burst and progressive TX22 FRT teased by Advanced Reset Tech- FS2000 3 position FRT released by Izhmash Arms
>>65492239Are people unironically putting frts in their carry guns?
good news regarding nitter
>>65492250I would seriously hope not
>>65492256I was watching an armed attorneys video and they mentioned they were at a gun show and a guy was making bank because he was installing frts into people presumed carry guns
>>65492297whelp, selling to retards do make money historically
Browning 1919 FRT install videohttps://odysee.com/browning-frt:0
I think I'll just go for asd mp5 lower with an ss and wait for the arhk when it gets a version 2.
>>65492687what changes you think the version 2 will have?
>>65492715Mostly cosmetic to make the levers look closer to the original hk ones.
Did the AHRK get released? The webpage now has lever options and says out of stock.
>>65492880not yet, but it appears that they are gearing up for the release
>>65492890>>65492880UPDATE 9/7Production is complete and we are waiting for parts to arrive to our facility to start building. Exact drop date will be announced on product page as well as ig and fb as soon as we start building.
I bought the Arizona Regulator because I was looking to build AR clones and wanted a period correct exterior.One issue I had was the finish of the AZ Reg kit, it was too black for my tastes. You can see in the pic the difference between original M16A1 and AZ Reg finishes. You can use a milspec full auto safety. The milspec trigger too, but you have to cut a small notch on the back of the trigger assembly to fit the AZ Reg disconnector. Alternatively, you can use a milspec disconnector, but you'll need a dremel to trim it down.
>>65492968I assembled my XM177E2 kit first. I used all the parts from the AZ Reg kit. Trigger, disconnector, and hammer. I refinished the AZ reg parts (except hammer) with the same moly resin I used for the receiver. So far it function tests OK. After I put my A1 kit together I'll take both out for a range report
>>65492980One thing I also had to do on the AZ Reg safety was grind down the index marker on the RH side of the safety as the Vietnam-era rifles didnt have that.
>>65492980Forgot to mention I also used the AZ reg safety.
>>65492968>>65492980>>65492984That looks great!
what does s3igu2 mean by this?
>>65493017Thanks. I suspect the XM177E2 will need a heavier buffer, but we'll see.Had the two AR projects for roughly 7 years. These are my only ARs. I tried to be as period correct as possible. Even going as far as getting the 80% lower marked with a hydraulic press to replicate roll marks instead of using a laser engraver.The M16A1 will be the real challenge. I have a HEL-E4A suppressor I'll keep on it full time, getting it tuned with a full back pressure suppressor and a FRT will be interesting.
>>65493654>More dumb side quests instead of working on the 249 triggerVery cool to see why it's going to take another year.
Red star Palmetto AUG trigger was supposed to ship 2 days ago, according to his site, but no updates yet.
>>65492251xcancel.com is already back up and running
>>65494594Email them and go "Hey I noticed we're past the automated system's ship time window. Will this be shipping soon?Hope Labor Day went well!"They were probably closed Labor Day and catching up Tuesday with older orders than yours, but never hurts to ask
>>65494489>More dumb side quests instead of working on the G36 triggerFTFY
>>65494489you have a 249? There are like 6 people working on it
>>65495040No updates from rare breedCustom Smith abandoned the projectMotus devs doesn't have enough money to get the prototypes madeASD will inevitably abandon itThe guy in the sticky is using AI to make it look like he's shooting the gun in his demo videoReally black pilled on this one. Starting to think I should just sell the 249, get an MFR56 and call it a day.
>>65495083>The guy in the sticky is using AI to make it look like he's shooting the gun in his demo videoactually? have proof of this? I'll remove it if true
>>65495101You can clearly see where the video switches to AI at 1:53. Look at this "muzzle flash" it added coming out of the link ejection port.Also you can update the SCAR in the sticky. The ASD design is no longer a separate lower. It's just a modified ARC-Fire now.
>>65495125Alright fair enough, those items will be updated. Thanks for the feedback
>>65495134You're welcome based FaRTSauSage sticky anon.
>>65495083>>65495040he's still working on it, s3igu2 just posted this today
wen Vz58? I remember multiple guys working on that and they all went radio silent months ago.
Complete newbie to FRTs, my brother got a couple of hoffman trigger kickers and is sending one my way. How do these stack up to other options? Anything I should know about? It'd be going into a basic PSA 16" carbine upper on an Anderson lower with a mil-spec trigger.
>>65496526That guy hasnt posted in a while
>>65496777make sure you have at least a h2 buffer and enough gas, other than that be safe when shootingalso it's only two position for now, as in safe and FRT only
>>65496833he's right they also copied the lever blocker
>>65492250Unironically why wouldn't I? If I'm in a self defense situation where I'm otherwise legally allowed to shoot, why wouldn't I just dump an entire mag in half a second? It's probably within speaking distance so most of the shots are on target and sounds better to me than taking x number of deliberate individual trigger pulls. Those situations like the mall shooting at a long range is the only case where I'd be thankful for single shot only
>>65496914because you are way likely to shoot someone else by accident and FRTs in pistols arent super reliable
>>65494489I see we’ve strayed from the teachings of John Moses Browning
>>65496914Because in a self-defense situation you still own and are liable for every bullet that leaves your gun. That means collateral damage up to and including shooting a bystanders is going to be on you. A FRT in a pistol is harder to control than a single shot, combine that with a massive dose of adrenaline and you can see how shit could go sideways pretty fast. That is assuming the tuning on the pistol is rock solid so that it doesn't shit the bed when you need it.
>>65496959JMB (bless) would want us to FRT beltfeds not shoulder fired fiddys.>M2 FRT when
>>65495083It's unlikely everyone is just going to abandon it - theres enough M249's out there to make money. You're just going to have to face the music that multiple AR belties as well as HK21 and HK23's and likely the MG42/MG3 will have good solid FRT's long before you do so adjust accordingly.There's too much SAW parts and accessories to justify getting rid of it, you should modernize it in the meantime with the short para barrel (SBR)and the collapsible stock and rail handguard
>>65497419>Modernize your 249Just need a light and maybe some BEAMZ then it'll be complete.>MG42The semi auto conversions barely function to begin with. Someone will have to come up with something drastically different to make them viable.
>>65494489I feel like he can walk and chew gum at the same time
Still waiting on my cp33 FRT.
>>65497898surprised this isnt out yet
bump
>>65496929>>65497371How many bystanders are around, behind or between a murderous maniac and me? All 3 of my encounters have just been a me and him or it scenario where any stray shots would hit a street or building at worst. 9 milly isn't penetrating a billion houses and ending a family of 10, its causing minor utilitarian or housing damage in any sense where you'd have to pull a gun
>>65499335FBI stats most gunfights involve an average of 2 to 3 rounds fired. I dont think a FRT is needed for this.Another reason not to is like what I said earlier, pistol FRTs are not reliable. You pull to hard on the trigger, you get a malfunction. This is because it's not a machine gun.
>>65499345>pistol FRTs are not reliableI agree but am responding on the viable concept that they can and will be with development. My argument is that that if you need to put a bullet in someone or something you may as well put 10 or 15 or whatever you're carrying through an (almost) automatic feature, it'd be equally justifiable
Noob hereWhat (3 position) supersafety will work the best in a Radical?Reliabilty > durability > everything elseAnd do you guys recommend an H1 or an H2 buffer?
>>65496929
>>65499451H2, any super safety made with good materials should work well
>>65500402So I shouldnt have any issues with an Atrius then?
>>65500903no, just make sure your low reciever has a low shelf or m16 shelfWhat I would recommend over the atrius though is the ARC Fire as it is more robust and costs the same and has the same requirements. It also comes with a cut trigger so you dont have to worry about that.
If a SS is not working in semi having to manual recock and will fire bursts 3-9 at a time on SS but will stop at needing to recock on a live round what should be looked at first? In a m16 pocket lower with a full auto BCG. H1 and H3 buffers have been tried. 3d printed center is on the SS but is not tight to the sides package came with a cut trigger.
>>65500952make sure your disconnector spring is on correctly, possible you need the upper part cut or you can use the quarters trick.check this outhttps://activesafetydesigns.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/folders/158000991910
>>65500917Its between the ARC and the Atrius for meI was under the assumption that the Atrius doesnt need a cut trigger, is that not true?
>>65500972that's correct. If you really dont want to take your trigger out at all for some reason, then sure atrius would be better. The ARC fire comes with a cut trigger though but of course your would have to replace your current trigger with it.If the deciding factor for you is based on not wanting to replace the trigger then atrius would be the option
>>65500967Everything is looking correct the disconnector spring looks a little bent not sure if that would matter. I'm thinking its the 3d printed centering block as it never fit right in the receiver. Others have said it can cause dead trigger which is what was happening. I heard some people use a earpiece to center it or just run nothing.
>>65501466Trigger spring is on backwards
>>65502251Thanks bro that was the issue :)
>>65499370>you may as well put 10 or 15 or whatever you're carrying through an (almost) automatic feature, it'd be equally justifiableWhile technically true, I doubt a prosecutor's office would see it that way in most cases.Yeah I'm fully aware of the two cases Ayoob wrote about, one where some guy was being chased down by a motorcycle gang and the other where some gunshop owner responded to a ram-and-grab robbery where some scumbags had driven a car through the wall of his gunshop to open the place up.Neither of those was a random mugging attempt by a single criminal or a robbery in some restaurant. Both were in 2A-friendly jurisdictions, and in both cases the defenders had the time to prepare and think about how they were going to handle the actual shooting part.Fire off a burst from your Glock in the middle of downtown Chicongo and, well, sure that's pretty normal, but most of those cases involve dirtbags who don't care about the consequences and whose bodies produce enough melanin that the Soros-owned prosecutor won't charge them, unlike you.
So if I'm planning on building an mp5 clone, the ARKH is the one I should be looking at?
>>65502899yeah
PMXS 3 position FRT in development by Duality Arms Co
ABSOLUTELY HUGE"The Wrangeler" by The Triggered Company. A 3-position, drop-in cassette trigger for the AK platform. Inspired by Pyotr Wrangel, last commander of the White Army who stood against the Communists during the Bolshevik Revolution. Murdered by Communist agents in 1928, he was defiant to the end and the epitome of Better Dead than Red.
Thoughts and or experiences with the Samurai Firearms KIKASS FRS?
>>65504164Absolutely based. Would love an AK FRT but I am retarded/lazy and working on AKs makes me sad. This might be my cure. Would post a pic but I seem to have lost my copy of Always with Honor.
>>65504665Never mind. Was on my other bookshelf.
>>65504651I read some impressions on reddit, seems well built. The product is way too new to get a lot of information on it though. Some great features too, world with low and high shelf and there is a version of it that works with Geissele triggers with no blocker and no cuts needed
>>65504011>FRT in developmentAll I want is Uzi Model A, Mac11/9 and BAR FRT. WHY are they punishing me?
>>65504667that's pretty cool
Anyone working on a saiga 12 trigger?
bamp
>>65505671maybe the new cassette will work? There isnt any documentation for this firearm
Hoffman new post
s3igu2 again teases the SCAR
>>65492239Is that a Gen 2 19 or 17?
>>65508154i would say 17 because the drum fit flush
>>65508159Based. I’ve got a Gen 2 17. Thanks anon.
xcancel is down again
Fostech teasing a forced reset trigger for the ar-15.Looks like cassette but with a different type of lever in the back for the reset. looks interesting.they have patents that pre-date anything rare breed owns.
>>65510161this one is two position only yeah?
>>65510166hard to say for sure with only the teaser. but i'm thinking it will be 3 position. in the shooting the selector is in the 180 degree position from safe. and in the short time you can see some parts of the cassette, it looks like there's multiple tails for the selector to interact with like other similar products. but still hard to see.
bunch of fucking clowns
>>65499345>FBI stats most gunfights involve an average of 2 to 3 rounds firedWe gotta get those numbers UP
>>65507989>triggerkickerHandgun maybe?
Anybody know what the best frt option is for the century ap5 navy? Got a line on one for unbelievable price.
>>65510854I went with L2 Prints because I wanted a trigger pack that matches.It works great, and is insanely fun. But you can tell it's life is limited. I've gone through over 2k rounds, and it's still working. Had to replace the plastic buffer the L2 FRT came with, as it was getting chewed up.I reccomend going with a drop-in, if you can find one. Or go with the AS designs SS lower, if you don't care about it looking gay.Do not change a fucking part in the gun. All that shit about locking pieces will ruin it. Out of the box, it will work flawlessly with a FRT and suppressor. Also, all that noise about QC problems at MKE is with the earlier guns. I have yet to have any issues with original parts.
>>65510161>they have patents that pre-date anything rare breed owns.Like that would stop them from suing lol
>>65504706Same brother, at least the uzi and macI'd love to need a BAR frt
I want an FRT for my WASR. Will one fit without a major headache? And would I need a AK Master Mount enhanced safety lever cut for a full auto sear?
>>65511070>I want an FRT for my WASR. Will one fit without a major headachedoesnt exist yet
>>65511081https://www.artakedowntool.com/products/ak-47-frt-super-safety-100-usa-made?
>>65511112if you can fit it without a major headache then good for you
>>65511283Is there any indication it would be a pain?
H2 or H3 buffer for 11.5 AR FRT? Super duty h2 good enough?
>>65511395I only ran H2 honestly and they work for my 11.5 carbine gas
>>65511398The black buffer for my KAC doesn't work, Idr if it's H1 or H2 though
>>65511395I personally have H3 and it "just werks."
>>65510161>>65510205>>65510979ok. looks like their website is updated. now it makes sense. they are putting a rare breed into their rifle from the factory if desired. obviously under license. I think this is the first time a rare breed trigger pack has been installed from the factory? interesting.
>>65512601>I think this is the first time a rare breed trigger pack has been installed from the factory?no, B&T is doing it with their 9mm PCCs and tipman now sells a AR22 with factory rarebreed
Besides an AR or a MP5, are there other guns that actually take an frt well and don't become super janky as a result (looking at you, kriss vector)?
>>65512608gotcha. thanks.
>>65512680yes, manyB&T PCCKunaAK if installed wellAUGTX22SKSand many more if you check the link in the OP
>>65504164Got any more info on this? Can find literally nothing
>>65512705There was a page by artakedowntool.com that had a lot of information stating that the trigger would be sold by them exclusively along with a sign up page. I signed up but the next day, the page was gone. The original IG post that announced it also seemed to be gone.My thinking is that maybe they announced it too early or something?
>>65512705from the AR15 forum>The Wrangeler will hit our webstore in October and to select dealers in phases as production numbers increase. We have confirmed compatibility with a large number of AK variants across a wide spectrum of models and manufacturers. Testing in additional models of AK will be an ongoing process, and results will be listed on our website. The Wrangeler is far different from existing AK triggers-It is a drop in 3 position cassette. Additional Wrangeler details will be released over the coming weeks so please subscribe to our social media and our newsletter. by a user called HelpfulGuerilla
>>65512722>October IT BEGINS
>>65512722>OctoberExcellent birthday gift for myself
>>65512695Texas Trigger p320 reaper. Very effective our the box.
VZ58 bros....AKMs finally go the last laugh no FRT made for our superior rifles...
>>65513275that's true, wish it was selectable but is what it isI have the selectable glock neo trigger, I need to go to the range soon and test it
>>65513722there was a guy working on it, not sure if he is anymore though
>>65513735Radio silence last time I saw. His website is was still incomplete
>>65513732I installed flat trigger in mine. Gives much better control, almost progressive in feel. Need to train with it but try it.
>>65514015any brand in particular?
I can't wait for selectable pistol FRTs. I will be EDCing one.
>>65514063there are at least two now, glock and m&p
>>65514063based and problem solva pilled
>>65507989that cannot possibly be Tim's post, he would have put that on his feet if it were.
>>65510161Can you list the patent numbers? I'd like to read them.
>>65514026Sig brand flat skeletonized. Simple. Works.
>>65514069The fuck is that frame
>>65514674>he doesn't carve his own glock frames from old pallet planks
>>65514356https://fostech.com/manuals-patents/
>>65514605thanks! looks like texas triggers also sells it
>>65515250Many thanks. I skimmed all of them. All of the trigger-related patents are for binary triggers, not for FRTs. There may be some overlap where the claims could read on Rare Breed's products and force a settlement, but none of them are about the same subtype of product that we call FRTs (or used to call them that before Rare Breed trademarked "FRT" -- now they're Forcibly Assisted Resettable Triggers, or FARTs).>>65510161>different type of lever in the back for the resetWell, good luck to them, just because they have a patent on something else doesn't give them any special privileges on a new product that they just came up with. Rare Breed pretty well locked down anything with a cam and a lever for the next 15 years.As far as "pre-date anything rare breed owns", their earliest patents are in the 8 million range. Rare Breed had one in the 7 million range which is now expired.
Why is it so expensive to build a p320 flux? The chassis is over $400 and even used p320s are about the same price. On top of the the Texas Trigger (although I hear it's great) is another $100.
>>65517941just use the strike industries products. they are cheaper and do 90% of the same thing.
>>65517941Shoulda got a cheap one on labor day. They'll probably have another sale on Black Friday
>>65517941The cost being asked by TT for the reaper is remarkably low considering what you get. It's so good I bought 2 more.
Another TP9 FRT in development
>>65519438When will they make a TP9 that actually works though
>>65520522Maybe the pro?
>>65504164>>65512722Hope this works on SAM5
I need a 1301 super safety before duck season this year so I can intimidate boomers and establish dominance.
>>65521310that would be pretty sick actually, the closest we got are the gen 12 FRT, IMG 12G upper FRT and JTS12 FRT
https://ar15discounts.com/products/texas-triggers-sig-p320-reaper-forced-reset-trigger/?avad=211021_f4f3d2d71&avad_ttl=1789809889Aftermarket sites are now selling the reaper. What a time to be alive.
>>65522489woah that's awesome
>>65522489>those machining marksthey cant tumble the parts? looks like shit.
>>65523266My only complaint about it. When I got mine it wasn't really "drop in" required some light filing to move freely. I was using an older legacy fcu though but still, a little bit more fitnfinish would be nice.
Anyone else believe that frts are eventually going to be tlhe soft open that eventually leads to full repeal of the NFA? With iterative development they're only going to get better until it gets 98-99% similar. Or maybe atf registration doesn't go away, but not being able to purchase new mfg machineguns is just fuckin dumb.
>>65523346>Anyone else believe that frts are eventually going to be tlhe soft open that eventually leads to full repeal of the NFA?no
finally tested out the neo slectable glock FRT. It works pretty well and does do what it says to do. I do have the same issue with PSR though as long strings of fire doesnt seem to work though. Basically I would get bursts of 10 or so then the trigger wont reset unless I take it off completely.I am also looking to purchase the advanced reset tech version to compare
>>65520648Having to shell out an extra couple hundred for a gun thats already over $2k for a chance it'll run... the Swiss have gotten away with it for too long.
Anyone put an AZ Regulator in one of these? If so how did it run.
>>65526330curious if you have to cut the bolt weight like SS/ARC/Atrius
>>65521400>gen 12 FRTIs there any new news on this? Last I heard was as designs would get to it eventually
What's the absolute best, easiest to install, and requires the least gunsmithing frt for AR?
>>65527822same stuff, you can also use a service from EVT to make it work
>>65527841cassette style FRTs like the partisan FRT, you have to replace the trigger and selector though. You have to replace even less with the atrius since it's just a selector, however atrius requires the lower receiver to be low shelf/m16 pocket which is an additional requirement.
I shot a ghm9 with a rare breed frt and it was the most delightful shooting experience ive had in a long time and now I want a frt 9mm gun.I have a brokie boy ap5p already. I am primarily concerned with a headache free frt experience, then actually controllability in full auto, then hollowpoint compatibility.Should I get an frt for my ap5, or should I get a ghm9 and frt that gun? I could be convinced to spend for for an apc9 if it’s actually better under automatic fire, but I prefer the longer boxy tube gun look of the ghm9 to the and tall but stubby lookin apc9 aesthetically. I bought the flat front ap5, so if I want to suppress, I need a new gun anyways.
>>65528848all of those options have FRTs and are easy to get running. If you want the GHM9, just get the GHM9, you'll probably be disappointed with anything else.
>>65528857maybe I should qualify my “automatic” shooting experience >beltfeds, m249/m240/m2/mk19 in .mil. most experience on m240, in dismounted b/l config and mounted to vehicles in the c config. >m4/ar15, and a little g36. all good and fun. >shooting the ghm9 without a stock, just creating tension with a single point sling.so Ive shot plenty of automatics, but basically no 9mm automatics, so Im curious if anyone could compare the fun/controllability/owner experience of the mp5 family to the b&t family.
new M&P FRT coming out
I just picked up 2800 rounds of Norco sport 308 for $0.53 per round the next day Lima 6 teases their 308 upper. I think it's a sign.
>>65529012>Lima 6 teases their 308 upper.really? that's sick as hell
>>65529012wish there were more FRT options for AR-10s, the only option right now is a super safety which works well of course, but has a lot of requirementsASD is working on a 308 lever though and that same lever works for the GEN-12
>>65529012>I just picked up 2800 rounds of Norco sport for $.53/roundWhere the fuck'd you find that!?!
>>65529542Guy I met through other friends was looking to to get some money so he was offloading a bunch of old ammo he got at cost. He had 5 crates of 560 china sports 308 he sold me for 1500.
>>65529554Lucky bastard.
>>65502468We’ve been there
>>65528873All the B&T's are direct blowback, albeit good direct blowback.The MP5 and the other roller delayed PCC's - Stribog and Kuna, are just flat out smoother, lower recoiling, and more spiritually fulfilling.
Does there need to be any sort special consideration taken with piston guns? I'm wanting to buy an ARC for my MR556. I think the factory buffer is comparable to H3. I will be suppressing it also
>>65531240Not for the MR556/416 and the T91 except sufficient buffer weight.As for other pistons like LWRC who cares
>>65531240not that i am aware of
>>65529046You could probably create a Trigger Kicker equivalent for an AR-10. Obviously the one Tim ships isn't going to fit the bolt carrier, you'd have to figure out the critical dimensions and cut your own.
>>65531973that's a good idea, might depend on the bolt carrier or something too
>>65528848I would FRT the AP5. GHM9 are solid guns, my friend has a nicer one, but I absolutely prefer the recoil impulse of my AP5-PRaregreed and ASD both make a drop in FRT trigger pack. >>65529012>308 for 53cprBased>>65529030Ya it is real and comin (oh lawd)>>655308679mm PCCs are just fun. I've got a buddy with a totally tricked out Stribog. Lingle Scorpion mag lower, Triggertech AR trigger, KD Gunwerx buffer... Doesn't shoot as nice as an MP5, but shoots pretty nice.
>>65532496what do you think of the cassette AK FRT trigger
>>65532624I haven't seen one yet?
>>65532645check this out>>65504164>>65512722
>>65532649Eh. No picture of an actual product. Not that exciting IMO. For legitimate reasons (namely that the AK space is in large part fat retarded neckbeard soi leftist scum faggots and their fatigue inducing pets) the vast majority of AK FRT products are even more gimicky than AR FRTs. The product space has been full of legitimate criminal scammers like KONO etc.
>>65492239I wouldn't say that Izhmash Arms has *released* their FS2000 FRT just yet, it isn't available for sale on their Gundibs page yet.
>>65532711you can get on their gunbroker page yeah?
>>65532717Only pre-orders there from what I can see.
>>65532711>>65532723ah I see what you mean, I place preorders in released because you can spend money on it
>>65532724I'm just following the guy on Reddit to watch for when he says it's good to go; he's told me that if he needs beta testers, I'm on the list, but from what I've seen it looks like he's got this down, just a minor deviation from his PS90 FRTs, so not a lot of extra work needed.He also said that he might do a 3-pos Saiga 12 FRT too, so I'm looking forward to that as well, haven't seen any one making one of them yet.
>>65532727>He also said that he might do a 3-pos Saiga 12 FRT too, so I'm looking forward to that as well, haven't seen any one making one of them yet.now that is fucking sick
>>65532653fair enough, it's made by the same guys that made the partisan if you care about that
>>65492250How legal is this in a state like say Georgia?
>>65532895I'm not a lawyer, but as far as I can tell;If someone can legally carry a gun, and can legally own a gun with an FRT, they're technically allowed to carry with an FRT installed.It would be fucking retarded to do, and if they actually had to use the thing in a self-defense shooting, they'd probably get absolutely raped by the legal system, even if was a legitimate self-defense situation.
>>65532900>they'd probably get absolutely raped by the legal system, even if was a legitimate self-defense situationAh yes, my favorite legal issue.>yes you can legally use this thing (FRT, that silly RIP ammo, etc), but I'm going to twist it against you in the most melodramatic way possible in courtI wish prosecutors put even a fraction of this nonsense towards jailing actual criminals.
>>65532900>>65533104In all fairness, FRTs send a lot of bullets downrange very rapidly, and in a way that is less controlled than someone firing single shots at a time with intent.The law allows you to shoot "to stop the threat", not "to blast so many wound channels through the perp that he's guaranteed to bleed out". The purpose is to stop the immediate threat, not to put Tyrel into an urn (even if that's what you really want and is best for society in the long run). It's the same legal theorizing that causes people to be criminally prosecuted for "finishing shots" and even "warning shots". The firearm isn't there to threaten or to kill, it's just there to protect you and end the threat, nothing more, nothing less.And from our side of the sights, I don't know why anyone would want an FRT on a CCW pistol because if you run out of ammo then the dirtbag's accomplices can cap you while you're standing there with an empty gun.
Is $50 for 5oz of tungsten powder a good price?I need some to fill up the debouncing sled to use a SS with a CMMG.Last time I tried to buy some, the fucking shipping company dumped it on my neighbor's driveway the night before a snowstorm and it probably got shoveled into a snowbank by the plowing company.
>>65533179That's literally not how self defense works. Self defense requires you to fear for your life AND neutralize the threat. That means killing the aggressor.
>>65499335>How many bystanders are around, behind or between a murderous maniac and me?you don't know, your planning for a future situationthey need to make a 3 position pistol frt
>>65533279There are a few of them hitting the market soon. They're putting the switch on the trigger itself, oddly.
ARHK not out yet? Thinking about buying a Zenith MP5 and I want a real drop in trigger without needing some aftermarket shit.
>>65533456not out yet unfortunately
>>65533456Either get an ASD lower for better ergo and an Arc v2 (preferably 0/45/90), or go with the rare greed. Say what you want about the people running the company, but their FRT is by far the best on the market.
>>65533179They'd have to be some incredibly disciplined dirtbags after 15 of 33 rounds just cut up their boy, the rest causing an effect on them known as "suppression" which gives the uninitiated extreme fear and the feeling of suddenly needing to empty their bowels as they go right past "fight" and into "flight"
>>65533272>That means killing the aggressor.While I concur that that is desirable, that isn't a requirement.
for trigger kickers, how many of you just tried it yolo without the schid hammer and had sucess? I know I have the demilled hammer, should I just spend the extra 10 bucks? its anderson lower
>>65534436you should be apparently it could work just not reliably. Just to save yourself from annoyance, I would just spring for the hammer man. Buy some ammo with it or a h2/3 buffer.
3D2A project that allows a AR15 ACG to shoot a Ruger P89 slide with the trigger kickerPretty sweet
First 4 position FRT for sale? (preorder)https://harrisongunworks.com/product/4-position-ar15-trigger-kit-preorder/
Out of complete and total curiosity; in a societal collapse scenario let’s assume someone had only a handgun with an frt.Would it be better for that individual to run ball ammo, or jhp? I mean obviously jhp would be a better defense. On the other hand it’d be easier to stock up on ball. I wonder though, when you have something with a high rate of fire, does it matter at that point?
>>65534601I love that ROF
>>65536440>societal collapse scenario let’s assume someone had only a handgun with an frt.I would take off the FRT
>>65535434Please tell me this would work in an MP5 with an ASD lower.
>>65536515Well, it looks like it requires a Kabuto so no, it wouldnt. Good news though is that ASD or at least s3igu2 is working on a 4 position. He had demo shooting footage of it in an AR using the ARC Fire. Since that one is based off the ARC Fire, I can see that version working.
Someone explain to me why the hell there's still no Uzi FRT.
>>65536554probably too easy to turn it into a machine gun or something
>>65536554Do you just expect things to pop up out of thin air?
>>65536918Yes.
>>65537338I admire your optimism.
oughhhhhhh XCR when
>>65536440Why the fuck are you mag dumping blickys during the end of the world? Then on top of that thinking you are going to have time to repack mags.
FPS Kenny's video on the P320 FRThttps://youtu.be/lC8y6DmWXg0
Does anyone have a good recommendation to look at for Glocks?I probably won’t get one, but I at least wanna look into them.
>>65539081check the link in the OP
>>65532735Izhmash told me to expect the FS2000 FRTs on his Gundibs page around Oct 6, so keep an eye out for that, fellow Tactical Tuna owners.
>>65539792wish I had a FS2000
Apparently the ATF was saying that certain FRTs are now MGs, when will these retards fuck off already
>>65541145You going to post a source on this claim?
>>65541175You could look it up yourself lazy faggothttps://www.ammoland.com/2026/09/atf-suppressor-sbr-guidance-form-4473/
>>65541191You could also post the source to a claim that the ATF is saying they are machine guns in the general that is all about FRTs. What you posted says the ATF think some MIGHT be machine guns and they need to look at the mechanism to determine.
>>65541191>some are MGs>ATF will go by statutory definition (aka 1 pull, 1 bullet = safe)What are these goobers saying? I've never seen an FRT that doesn't reset.
>>65535434Neat.
>>65541191>>65541732Non retard take - there have probably been some isolated cases where people have taken the FRT craze and used it as camouflage for selling or even just using actual MG conversions. Retarded fed is failing to elaborate to try to fear monger like they usually due whenever they lose. Try to make things as unclear as possible to chill the market.
New footage of the bren 2 FRT from 009515. This is different from the one by Nexus Firearms that's in development but it's similar in which it's a separate lower. While the Nexus version accepts cassette style FRTs, this one by 009515 uses lever style.
New TP9 FRT being released by cloak industries, developed by marksman guns and ammohttps://youtu.be/Ra9jjKY_reAthat's a grand total of 3 FRTs for this in development. 2 position for now, 3rd position in development.
>>65542557>that's a grand total of 3 FRTs for this in development.correction, 4 in development
https://youtu.be/MwJN0WfiIww
Some ASDesigns updates from their page>ARC-Fire Stealth (Roll Pin Selectors/No screws)>DROP DATE - 10/14 3PM EST (LIMITED QTY AVAILABLE)>ARC-Fire Z>In testing phase. Info to be released once samples arrive.I have no idea what the ARC-Fire Z is, the only thing I can think of is the 4 position?>AR10/GEN-12>In sampling and testing phase. Expected to drop by end of November.This is extremely crazy. There is currently only ONE frt on the market for AR-10s which is a super safety. This is breaking new ground.Other updates herehttps://activesafetydesigns.com/production-status/
>>65541191panic bought the P320 FRT because of this
Why isnt there more selector options for the ARC yet?Options like, the magpul selectors or the radian talons
>>65534601Tim Hoffman really is a genius.
>>65543190If he's so smart where is the Uzi FRT?
>>65543190hello tim
>>65542622You could have just hooked it up to a mechanism in which a drill spins a hammer around where each strike would cause a round to be fired
>>65542619Where the FUCK is the ARHK
>>65543389>t. Fed
>>65543396Nuh uh.
PSR's P320 FRT videohttps://youtu.be/-KqMApi4d6Q
Galil ace gen 1 FRT in development by D-lahhh on reddit. Same developer that's working on the Tavor FRT I believe this is the standard AK FRT outfitted Apparently will be 3 position.D-lahhh is mostly known for producing beretta optic plates
Taurus RPC frt coming out really soon by duality arms co. Apprently you have to print the cam and selector though but the trip will be purchasablehttps://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/gadget/dac-taurus-a-r-t-dualityarmsco
KineticTechProjects was able to get the super safety to work on a reproduction m3 grease gun. Product is in production.
Just finishing up the weekend at Oklahoma's Full Auto Shoot and Trade Show (OFASTS) with plenty of time behind a PKM.Someone please tell me that someone's working on an FRT for semi pkms....I have a powerful need bros.
>>65544137im not aware of that being in development
>>65544137There was story of someone designing one like 8+ months ago, who happened to have a PKM. Haven't heard shit since.I'd wait to see if the Yugo M84's make it in before hoping a FRT will materialize.No I won't give a source it was nearly a year ago
>>65543951The ATF is going to walk itself right into a trap after 2028.>>hurr durr FRT= MG> incompetence gets MG's legalizedThey are in a no-win scenario, and RBT has already done enough legal posturing to meet the criteria and be safe from their bullshit
>>65536440By handgun do you perchance include PCC/AR pistol, or conventional pistol in a raider like body kit?
So what's ASD doing with the ARHK besides sitting on their ass blowing nigger dicks?My mp5 needs this.
>>65545883they are certainly taking their sweet time.
>>65545981It's a shame, they have people lined up ready to throw money at them and they're ready to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.I'm sending my housing off today to be engraved in preparation.
rare greed frt or as design arhk frt for my sp5k?? The rare greed is more expensive but I like how the safety selector looks since it doesn't have a fucking screw in the middle of it. I don't mind waiting for the as designs but I do wish it came with a stealth selector (Maybe I'll wait for v2?)
Also I heard the rare greed frt resets the trigger in semi mode too and the as designs one doesn't? Anyone know if this is true and if it's something to be concerned about?
>>65546208It does but it honestly isn't noticable. It just feels like a small nudge on your finger and it's so slight you have to be really paying attention to even notice. If you're shooting groups in semi auto you don't feel it. AK trigger slap is worse.
Taurus RPC trip from duality arms co is outhttps://duality-arms.com/taurus-rcp-trip/you will have to 3d print the other parts though
>>65543225>1970s era open bolt crappy heavy SMG>hardly anyone owns onewhy would he bother?why were you dumb enough to buy one?
>>65546890Legions of boomers were.IMO the Uzi is the most overrated open bolt smg.
Does the SCR 15p have an FRT?
>>65547418that's a great question because there are FRTs for the SCAR 16 and 17 currently out and one in development by ASDesignsThe one that's available now requires buying an unobtainum lower, the buffer serviced, a trip and a rarebreed trigger. This works for SCAR 16/17The one in development is a drop in cassette that works in the OEM lower for the SCAR16/17Neither from my understanding mentions 15p
>>65542619>hey remember how we pissed everyone off with the Arc v2>let's do it againAh yes, let's roll out two products AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME that fuck over our previous purchasers.
>>65547192looking cool is the only important factor a gun has
>>65547436>>65547418small correction. The ASDesigns one will work with the 15p
Has s3igu2 previewed the SCAR FRT in action yet? I'd like to see if it fires as slow as the actual full-auto SCARs or if it's faster like FRTs tend to be.
>>65547784not that I am aware of no, whenever he does upload footage, i'll have it on the github page
I'm a cunthair from giving rare greed my money, I'm tired of waiting. By the time this shit drops we'll be in a new administration banning all of it from being sold anyway.
>>65547784This looks pretty good. I may just buy a SCAR 15P just for an FRT PDW. Check me:>223 > 9mm/10mm/5.7mm>proven platform>matured design>drop in FRT >= WIN
>>65548193Politics aside, their MP5 FRT is the best by far. I personally have an ASD lower since I wanted to be able to use a nicer trigger, but the rare breed is top notch for being clone correct. I've heard it may need some minor adjustments though for non HK lowers, so be aware.
Fuck it, I'm giving rare greed my money
>>65548325... Or should I....?
>>65548418There's better options imo but I've never heard anything bad about their triggers
>>65548657Except the price, I guess
>>65547645The Uzi isn't a timeless design like the MP5 is, it's not even the best open bolt SMG- that distinction either goes to the Beretta SMG's or the Sterling
>>65548283Kinda hard doling out $600+ for something that's supposed to be turn key but mods are still needed. I understand turkshit QC can vary so that may fall on the clone manufacturers but it still sucks. I saw a video on YouTube where a guy was talking about having to shim the bottom of the carriers when using rb frts. Is it just that or something else too?
>>65548918You just need the extractor lever, extractor spring, and extractor pin from your original trigger pack and you MAY need to shim it if you have a turk clone UNLESS you're already using an hk or rcm bolt carrier.
>>65548325>>65548418NOOOO, KING DON'T DO IT! He'll use that money to pay lawyers to sue everyone else out of business!
>>65539792He released it early! FS2000 FRTs available now!
>>65548818So you don't have one, but you have lots of opinions about them.
>>65550208nice!
>>65533182>Is $50 for 5oz of tungsten powder a good price?asking again halp pl0x
>>65550211It (and the MAC) is arguably the most common rentable F/A SMG in the country, the barrel being piss easy to change (unscrew) is a boon for armorers.The semi auto ones aren't worth it
MAC 11/12 FRT coming out next week by advanced reset tech
>>65552262Fucking finally!>t. Cobray on Mars
>>65552262How's the trigger slap?
P320 FRT came in the mail, pretty excited
Any 3 round burst AR FRTs in development?I know about CARL, but was hopping for an option with milspec selectors so it looks good from the outside.
Explain FRTs to a no-gunz. Is it actually legal? Or kind-of, sort-of legal? Is it basically full auto from a loophole?
>>65553993Depends on state, totally legal. Government has said theyre 100% not MGs
>>65553993depends on your state laws, and it's not full auto
>>65553993https://youtu.be/kBzeaJtkv-U?is=6ERFKiQ3oRQcq-05 Good video for it. The trigger is (forcibly) reset every time it fires. 1 shot per trigger pull = semi auto
>>65553964CARL works with the ARC Fire
>>65554003Interesting, sounds too based for the government to actually do.>>65554004>not full autoIt's basically bump-firing for you? Trying to understand without actually getting into it. Is ROF the same as auto in practice? And it feels like auto as long as trigger is held down?I guess I am missing whether you actually get effectively the same continuous ROF of a true auto while you hold the trigger down with a little less reliability or there is more to it from a practical effect standpoint. Am trying to get spoonfed, I admit.>>65554005Thanks anon, I will wacth, was trying to avoid pulling out getting down to the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJnhr08aIJs level, but might have to.
New update from Hoffman regarding the selectable trigger kickers
>>65554013It was after a court battle with Rare Breed. They effectively made it safe for everyone to go nuts with FRTs but apparently there was a caveat that RB would be forced to sue any company who made FRTs. I am not a lawyer and didn't keep up with it 100% but that's basically what happened.
>>65553831it's not out yet
I installed a rarebreed FRT 15 trigger on my PSA M16 clone and when I pull the trigger I may or may not get a burst off before the bolt locks back and won't release until I let go of the trigger, how do I fix this?
>>65554141how hard are you pulling?
>>65554172Holding it down
>>65554247well that would probably be the reason, it's not a machine gun
>>65532895im in georgia, shit is legal; no one cares. anyone who runs FRTs in their duty gun or carry gun is fucking retarded and likely highly melonatedlink relatedhttps://abc7ny.com/post/12-teens-injured-georgia-shooting-carolyn-crayton-park-macon-sheriff-says/19883788/videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LMaNnohrGw
>>65554007Doesn't look good from the outside, unless if they have a version without the screw in the middle. Won't work for A2 clone builds.
>>65554368I believe the CARL only works for lever based FRTs and there arent any screwless versions available yet. There will be a screwless ARC Fire coming out though
>>65554368Good news. They'll have the screwless ARC soon
>>65554252If that's actually the reason that's fucking retarded, I don't want some piece of shit I have to be all finicky and picky and delicate with in order for it to work.
>>65554515it's generally pretty difficult to shut these down, you must be the hulk or somethinghttps://youtu.be/oB5pNoPpgwg?t=322https://youtu.be/OmlZENo1P3s?t=1257
>>65554532lolno I'm 6'1 150lb
>>65554279I don't see what two packs of nogs in Macon shooting at each other has to do with self defense
>>65554593because only retards like the low rents in the video i provided are putting FRTs in the guns they carry and rely on to work
>>65554578tis the season.Spooky Scary Skeletons
Hk 416 22lr FRT coming out by duality arms co
IT'S OUT (3 weeks lead time)Three position cassette AK trigger
>>65556333RPK...so a vepr should be fine, right?
>>65556450dont see why not
>>65556333I have a MAK90 and I have a feeling it won't work with this thing. Not like I can afford to shoot it anymore anyway.
>>65556462fuck it, since it doesnt need a trip bar im buying it in hopes i can swap it between my x39 vepr and 12g
>>65556333I think I'll keep my Arsenal SLR95 original and pop this in my Romy G kit build. Could try it in my Saiga 12, I have 2 20rnd drums for that. It would be a chopper... Opinions?
>>65557027sounds like a cool project for ya
>>65557027I sent off my vepr12 to get chopped down to 12.5" about 6 weeks ago, so halfway done with the wait. If this ends up working in it when I get it back, you better be damn well sure Im getting a 25rd drum for it
>>65557043>>65557072Quick check shows 12a 00buck on par with 7.62 within a few cpr...
