How would you fortify this position?
Don't, just treat it as a lost cause.
>>65492540I wouldn't fortify anything. I would listen, which is what no one else did.
turn it into such a shithole that none of my neighbors would ever want to reclaim the territory
>>65492540Step 1: Scour it clean of life and try to find the closest thing to Prussians I can to repopulate it
>>65492558
>>65492540In a manner that would see all who challenged its walls destroyed until naught but ash and echoes remained.
Belkamaxxing
Fill it with russians, let the HIV and degeneracy act as a natural barrier
>>65492540nuke it the moment it gets invaded
>>65492540Defense in depth. Since paratroopers are a concern, we need to maintain security in the rear areas as well.On that note, I need you to plan and conduct a patrol that crosses each of these seven bridges exactly once.
>>65492540Station nukes there. That usually works.
>>65492540Noooks
>>65492631is there even a solution to this? First time I have also heard of such a logic puzzle.
>>65492556Wild reference. Also, fuck him for that line of reasoning.
>>65492751yes, it's called conducting a river crossing with amphibious units
>>65492757I always thought it was funny how he misunderstood the question. "What would you say to those kids at that school that day?" (in reference to the kids who were shot) and he interprets it as "What would you say to the teens who shot them?"
>>65492751The russians built an 8th bridge when they got a hold of the territory.
>>65492751No, there's too many odd nodes, you can have infinitely many even nodes as long as you have 0 or 2 odd nodes, but with four as there are here, there is no such walk
>>65492558done. now what
>>65492757its been a /tv/ meme for a while
>>65492540With nuclear weapons./thread
>>65492552FPBP
>>65492898but only if you know which ones work or which ones are duds due to lack of maintenece and corruption. Otherwise you may be fucked.
>>65492751https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Bridges_of_K%C3%B6nigsberg
>>65492833To be fair it's a fucking stupid question.
>>65492917>only if you knowYou mean only if the aggressor knows, or is mentally retarded enough to take the chance. If you're around an operational nuke while it's operating, you're kind of fucked by definition.
>>65492540Are there any actual civilians in there? Just drone swarm it shell it flat whereever there is a thermal signature if that is not a concern after a naval and sea blockade of a few months
>>65492932You don't know what fortify means, do you?
>>65492931The catch is you have to be absolutely certain which of the 5000 you have are duds (the vast majority) and which WILL work. Given Russia were serviced in Kharkiv and require service every ten years due to the radionactive decay and effects of radiation including the complete replacement of the detonator and the electronics and Russian designs also have corrosion in galvanised metals around the plutonium core and that no servicing has taken place since 2014.
>>65492939Name one urban ara that held longer than 3 months while surrounded, cut off and shelled. I'll wait while you go think about it.
Realistically you put in DUMBs and make the surface inhospitable with drones and mines and all sorts of buried fortifications and a lot of them so countries like the US can't burst damage you down with limited supplies of precision weapons and has to commit to a months long conflict. Mind you the competency and means to make this work is limited to maybe a dozen countries and Russia is not one of them.
>>65492939If you think that's defensible then it's quite simple, you are retarded.
>>65492939do you think something being a fortification suddenly makes it immune?
>>65492951he's not strategically or tactically literate, it's a jingoist
>>65492540nuclear claymores
>>65492540The biggest road in Scandinavia does not connect any cities?
>>65492540Remove all the Russians from it
>>65492954You're just literally illiterate, the question wasn't "how would you reduce any fortifications here?">how would you survive on this desert island?>mang just starve to death, ur stoopid^ this is you
>>65492540Add a P to the front
>>65493001That's not a road anon.
>>65493001>>65493103
>>65492943Leningrad
>>65492631The real answer to this is to use a boat. Just do the patrol backwards after the first cycle to reset the boat.
>>65492540Fill it with subhumans so savage and ruined by FAS and inbreeding that nobody would want it.
>>65492540Secede and join NATO. There, you're basically immune to everything.
>>65492943Sarajevo
>>65492540How you win as German general during WW2?
>>65493207Survive, write a book, work for NATO maybe, live off royalties. Fairly easy.
>>65492631Easy, start on the middle island.
>>65492540Mine the shit out of it and leave.xaxaxaxaxa silly HATO, we didn't not of needed it anyway)))))))
Piggybacking on this thread to ask:Congrats!!! You are now the colonel-in-chief of the Operational Group of Russian Forces in Transnistria!!! How do you fortify Transnistria against the degenerate Moldovans?
>>65492540Indefensible. Just plant mines and boobytraps everywhere along with lots of signal emitters which make it seem like a division level command structure inhabits it.
>>65493275no
>>65493294Plant minefields and disperse units to towns, wait for reinforcement.
>>65492583I just realized that Live action Dorn should be played by the guy who plays Pike in SNW. That is all.
>>65492940No, dumbass, Ukraine was just one of several service areas for Russia's nukes. And no, they did no unique function that Russia itself doesn't have alternatives for.
>>65495019>they did no unique function that Russia itself doesn't have alternatives for.Could you remind me again where the Admiral Kuznetsov and Moskva were made?
>>65494947>wait for reinforcement
>>65492540scorched-earth policythey have wisely started in 1945
>>65492868profit
>>65492540Mobilize the children
>>65495042>but what aboutYou don't look smart trying to be cute.
>>65495522Anon you are Russian shill, your average potato looks smart compared to you.
>>65493294First I seize control of Transnistria and declare neutrality. Then I rework the laws to make it a tax and banking haven. After that I turn it into a tourist destination.
>>65495712>After that I turn it into a tourist destination. fucking howtax and banking haven, I could understandlike actually i am genuinely interested in hearing about how you would turn Transnistria into a tourist destination
>>65495750>how you would turn Transnistria into a tourist destinationNta but turn it into an open-air USSR museum. Go full LARP when you're inside. Like, you get given fake USSR documents when you get inside, get randomly stopped by people to see your documents, stuff like that. Make all the Soviet era shit like bunkers and missile silos able to be visited and make it, again, LARP central like the Star Wars thing. Have people dressed up in 50's Soviet shit, walking around pretending to do stuff. Plus historical shit in general. Tighina Fortress and Noul Neamt Monastery are sites to visit anyway. Finally, promote cross-border tours with Moldova to cover their vineyards and stuff. So one side is relaxed food and drink and light cultural stuff while Transnistria is a full LARP area.
>>65492751you would need to build a pontoon bridge in the correct place.Of course, this exercise is extremely difficult under enemy artillery fire.
>>65495879But 50%+ losses is perfectly acceptable and expected for river crossings.
>>65493294I will use all the soviet ammunition they left behind for me. No artillery shell shortage for me!
>>65495750>turn Transnistria into a tourist destination"You wanna come see our pile of old munitions that may or may not go off at any time? There's guided tours through the depot and you can buy a shell as a souvenir."
>>65495885Not much left.
>>65495712>Then I rework the laws to make it a tax and banking haven.The Moldovans, as of this year, have started imposing their customs-duties and taxes on Transnistrian businesses.
>>65492552You can do a little better than that. Withdraw from Ukraine, and offer to return Koenigsburg to Poland. Use both as diplomatic leverage to regain access to having an economy and maybe try unfucking the lives of the average Russian citizen. Granted, that probably ends with the current Putin body-double ending up in a shallow grave, but that's no real loss.
>>65496221>regain access to having an economyJokerDarkKnightThatsGoneForGoodNow.webm
>>65496228Russia's still got a shitload of natural gas, other petrochem shit, and god only knows how many metals. It might mean them having to rent out access to those resources like the third world shithole they are, but it's got to be a hell of a lot better than what they're doing at the moment.
>>65496221>offer to return Koenigsburg to Poland*Germany
>>65492558Actually Kalingrad is actually really fucking nice, it because it near all of the nice EU countries so a rising tide even lifts the russian tardies.
>>65496271
>>65496268Fine. Return Królewiec to Poland. Are you happy now?
>>65493122Pidorsburg was never 100% surrounded. They always retained contact and some form of resupply through lake ladoga
>>65496221>regain access to having an economyThis would make of the goal was money in the short term but part of the initial reason for trying to take over Ukraine was to have an autarkic economy that wouldn't be dependent on trade with other countries to be powerful (we've long since past the point where this would be beneficial obviously, it's just about genociding Ukrainians for daring to resist).
Put up like five defensive lines and wait for rescue through Suwalki etc. Fuck this, my computer crashed and I lost the message I had written with all the refrences and jokes.
>>65496664I'd like to live in Elblag.
>>65492556kek this shit will always get a laugh out of me
>>65496271>>65496314>>KalingradCanceled, here is your new vacation location:https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyrk588dlrohttps://news.sky.com/story/russian-tourists-are-holidaying-at-a-new-north-korean-seaside-resort-but-whats-it-really-like-13405090https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/9/russians-arrive-in-north-korea-as-first-foreign-tour-group-since-covid-19To be fair the DPRK's resort alternative is much less likely to come under missile attack than Kalingrad, is crime free, has excellent service and has loads of Nork booze. You can even do a day trip to decide if you want to pay to see Mount Paektu!Pic unrelated to whatever we were talking about, i just think it looks like it would be really fun to fly and the drawing is amazing.
>>65492540I certainly wouldn't deploy my units stationed there to another theater of operations! That would be a very bad move, right? btw let's check how the 11th Army Corps is doing these days...
>>65496612>Putin fell for the Autarky memeI suppose I shouldn't be surprised he'd be that retarded, but fucking hell.
>>65496271its a dead corpse of what it once was. Königsberg. The biomass squatting in the ruins is mostly imported from the southern urals and has zero connection to the historic lands>>65492540the enclave itself is impotent without a relief force breaking through, in bulk, from belarus. But to get there they need to break through the vilnius-woody swampland belt on the border. Which is not easy it lithuanians and poles mount anything resembling a defense. No point in talking some fantasy about annexation. Westerners are so scared out of their minds of monke they wont even allow moldova and ukraine to delete the trannysistria abomination. Despite it would take a weekend to do so once forces commit. Königsberg is just a bigger version of that, even in war
>>65497308>No point in talking some fantasy about annexation. Westerners are so scared out of their minds of monke they wont even allow moldova and ukraine to delete the trannysistria abomination. Despite it would take a weekend to do so once forces commit. Königsberg is just a bigger version of that, even in warI don't think Ukraine or most particurally Moldova really want to use force on trannynistria. Ukraine has bigger problems and Moldova would struggle to absorb them (and giving it to Ukraine would suck for everyone).
>>65496680trust me, you would not
>>65500658Why?
I would bribe the POTUS with my infinite gas/oil moneyseems to be working so far
>>65492631They made it a lot easier.
You airlift anyone and anything you can out of there
>>65496228It was never really an option. The salty former pale of settlement residents that run US foreign policy now have done literally nothing but fuck with Russia from day one.
>>65492540I would place several guards around the map such that their cones of vision overlap. I would also have them turn 90 degrees periodically. There would also be several groups of patrolling guards which would be hard to take out one by one.
>>65492540Nuke Kiev
>>65496664So like five defensive lines, wait for rescue from the Potato Man through Suwalki. Mine the waters and make small attack boats to fight NATO. Nuke the Kaliningrad city when it's over run.
>>65492540backyard bomb
>>65496221>You can do a little better than that. Withdraw from Ukraine, and offer to return Koenigsburg to Poland. Use both as diplomatic leverage to regain access to having an economy and maybe try unfucking the lives of the average Russian citizen.Then you need to move away that half a million Russians that lives there(because nobody wants them in region) and move in new population in order not not make a shithole from it. Keep in mind that many parts of critical infrastructure is different than in rest of Europe.It's like with Norks everybody wants unification until they look at cost
>>65501104Ą hunts there, expect for that there isn't much there
