M1E3 Abrams looks amazing!
>>65496231Would you buy one?
missed zelensky? what a shame
>>65496231is that a fucking javelin on the roof?
>>65496231I see we are embracing the Nork theory of tanks need more DAKKA
>>65496231>Missiles>CROWS>AGLSo a cargo cult Chonma-20 on an antiquated 40+ year old hull? Yawn.
I mean, it is like they saw a picture of a modern tank and just added stuff that 'looks right' without really knowing what it actually does....They didn't even copy the most modern version with the proper drivers position to allow for a future fifth crewman/drone operator. Why can't the USA make something for the real world instead of refighting past wars?
>>65496261>>65496266They need to be a able to upgrade old hulls to the new standard.
looks sick asf
>>65496274Weird situation. They made a whole bunch of new hull designs with central drivers and then went back to a new super sized T-62 based hull. They have some new turret designs that they can put onto older T-62 variants but the latest turret is probably too big. However they recently showed off a bootleg EuroPack and transmission so it is possible they might be able to pull off enough power to use those older hulls.
>>65496231Thats the prototype for the prototype just to make sure unmanned turrets are something the Army even wants with current tech. It’s not going to have a Javelin either, they said that was something they had lying around and put on because the CROWS looked empty without it. So far as we know the actual prototypes will look more like this.
>>65496231>green instead of tired old meme tanThey need to start painting them in full woodland again, and then we can truly say that nature is healing.
The Bradley also looks really fucking good in woodland.
>>65496241I want this for my garage
>>65496266I can never tell if you're just trolling or have legitimately shit takes all the time
>>65496245>>65496261Yes. They made it pretty clear that this was a display meant to showcase what it was capable of having, not what they planned to put on it. The guy standing there said in not so few words that they didn't really have anything substantive to install before the show
>>65496619Why not both? I freely admit that on an open battlefield (Desert Storm was a bad thing for US tactical armored thinking) the Abrams is a superior tank but the Nork's don't have entirely bad ideas, especially when it comes to adding more dakka and capabilities to their armor. The Norks do less with more than almost everyone else because they have no other choice. Their production decision making process is also probably more streamlined than anyone else.However i would stand by the statement that Ukraine would probably get better use out of the latest Nork designs than their Abrams or Challengers due to the Nork tanks being lighter, more maneuverable and having NLOS capacity. Nork tanks are multifunction ambush vehicles while armor on armor is a secondary concern, Abrams and Challengers are brute force assault armor. I really admire them saying 'fuck it, we liked the T-62 so we are sticking with that idea'>>65496644Obviously; i'm mostly just using quasi-trolling and snarky half truths to point out that prototypes aren't reality unless they are piloted by Best Girl Mari.
>>65496253We invented it.
>>65496677He suggested that they need to be able to upgrade old hulls to the new standard. That isn't possible since they are really heavy turrets that need new hulls. I pointed out that they have upgunned turret designs that they are using on older hulls but the latest ones can't work with those hulls. They are upgrading old hulls as part of their transition to a more western style force but the older ones will not be as good as the new ones.Seems pretty straight forward to me; they can upgun old hulls but need to make new ones for their new tanks going forwards if they want standardization. What is hard to understand?Image just because it is funny and true in a geopolitical sense when it comes to preventing a global nuclear war.
>>65496266>>65496261KYS you pissdrinking faggot
>>65496619Anon he literally participates in urine drinking and shit eating threads on /gif/ and espouses a love for communist monarchy politics as a legit ideology, of course his takes are authentically retarded. He also frequently talks to himself and forgets to remove his trip.
>>65496923>>65496951So all you think about is my piss?
>>65496951Proofs plz. I need this laff.>>65496685 #I like to imagine a few M2 "Combat Cars" being shucked over to Wake Island shortly before Dec 7th, just as an apparent better than nothing bandaid... but then actually roflstomping the initial jap beach landings. Requiring yet another week of bombing raids. And yet another turnaround and regrouping.Dunno if that'd just piss the japs off more with even worse prison camp consequences for the American survivors.Or if having Wake stay in the fight and be liable for needing support would hurt us strategically, maybe would've prevented Midway from unfolding as it did.
>>65496685The british invented dakka with their landships
>>65497230NTA but he posted in a thread about drinking the piss of a korean camwhore and shitting worm eggs on gif and forgot to remove his tripcode. He deleted the post afterwards but a few anons got pre-deletion screenshots.
>>65497397The worst part of this is that there is then more than one person on /k/ who is into that.
>>65497417Not a surprise. There are multiple Bundeswehr on /k/. They frequent the armor and BRG threads.
>>65496619>>65496951>>65497230>>65497397Retards, LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A NAME AND A TRIPCODE. THE !5PczJ/8PMc IS COPY AND PASTED FROM THE ACTUAL TRIPCODE USER TO TRICK PEOPLE LIKE YOU INTO THINKING IT IS HIM.LOOK I CAN DO IT TOO. Since I don't know his actual tripcode I can't actually get this properly. It isn't the ACTUAL Norktard but you guys are so fucking new you don't know the difference between somebody copy and pasting a tripcode and an actual tripcode.
>>65497465Uh-oh, Norky melty! It's okay! Corophagia and commie fellatio are hecking valid xister!
>>65497465Fair enough.
>>65497465We've been flooded by AI chatbots funded by thirdie nations and trained on fucking third world ESL phoneposters. All the insane mispellings and general retarded thoughts plus simping for loser thirdie nations has been clear for the past half year plus.Shit's bad.
>>65497486>>65497478This is norktard replying to himself
>>65497491
>>65497497WOW KNOW HOW TO USE MS PAINT OR TWO BROWSERS?! SURE SHOWED ME! I WILL SUBMIT AND DRINK KIM GOOK-COONS FROTHY PISS AND EMBRACE JOOCHE CORPHAGIA!!!
>>65496231
>>65497505You're not worth the effort of taking a photo of my screen to upload.
>>65496231We must go back
>>65496284>>65496266>>65496261Do Norks still use the turret toss auto loaders the Russians use?
>>65496923burgermutt melty
>>65497491I have called Norktard a fucking idiot on multiple different occasions, thank you. I'll let his posts stand on their own merit (which is sometimes very bad), rather than dubious hearsay.
>tanks in 2026grim
>>65498240>droneniggers still seething about the fact tanks aren't obsolete in 2026kek.
>>65498265They aren't obsolete, just burning in a field is all
>>65498240When the dronefags ignore that both Ukraine and Russia desperately want to resume maneuver warfare.
>>65499089>both Ukraine and Russia desperately want to resume maneuver warfare.It's a complete mystery why they can't
>>65499140Because neither side has the manpower to conduct an assault at the scale needed to break through the others defensive lines.
>>65499181Because tanks are drone magnets lmfao
>>65499182>thirdie understanding of combined arms warfareWhy am I not surprised.
>>65499195>my tank can only be used if we have complete air, ground and naval superiority Useless pile of shit on tracks
>>65499231Look at what happened to tanks in countries that cant have air superiority, air superiority is a requirement for any kind of true advance. Why hasn't Russia been able to make any true gains since early war? Its because they lost air superiority, and Ukraine, while lacking air superiority aswell has taken advantage of this in order to completely rape Russian rear-echelon troops and equipment. Ukraine still has tanks because they see the futility of using them in an environment that lacks air superiority, and this includes drones both big and small. Neither side has any true counter to drones, regardless of if they are able to routinely shoot them down. Until laser/microwave/precision targeting systems take off, this will continue. Anti tank nigger pseuds will try and refute this.
>>65499269Even the USA is getting hammered by shitshole Iranians living in caves using drones There is no countering drones. Even with air superiority.Hence why tanks are obsolete.
>>65499286>reddit spacing>dronefag>retarded generalization The jokes write themselves, and the USA is getting hammered so bad because they got rid of all their SHORAD systems after the cold war, they would be better off even with Chaparral launchers and M163s. There is also the interceptor shortage, which definitely doesn't help. Faggots like you act like every drone gets through, they dont, and a majority are shot down before they can hit anything, but once they hit something, you 'people' cant shut the fuck up about it. Drones aren't invincible, and I sincerely wonder what bandwagon you niggers will jump onto next. Probably something to do with AI or whatever the fuck.
>>65497134
>>65499286TRVKE
>>65499315All of the meaningful damage Iran has done, what little that amounts to, was with ballistic missiles in the first place.It is just brown cope.
>>65499368Sounds like migger cope to me
>>65499368Didn’t all American soldiers who died (all browner than Iranians btw) die due to drones?
>>65499379Out of the 14 Americans who have died in the war the majority of were from a tanker refueling mid air collision.Think about that, Iran has gotten assraped and it has only managed to kill 14 Americans.
>>65499315>>65499286FAGS.Apparently the new tank meta will be using bulked up cheaper drone tanks to push forward and drain the surrounding enemies drone stockpile before a big armored push.this makes a lot of sense since most tanks with fat armor can take up to 20+ drones each and it takes time for logistics to supply the drone teams at the front.there apparently also had some success with the older revamped anti rpg system flak thing alhough it apparently runs out of ammo fast and only has like 12 shots so they will have to make a specific one for drones and not rpg's.Anyway perun is still a glowie fagget shill and he can kill himself.
>>65498647>angry passive-aggressive dronenigger response>no argumenti accept your concession.
>>65499344embarrassing dronenigger samefag.
>>65499489>can take up to 20+ dronesJust 1 (one) drone with rpg-7 warhead enough to damage tank track. Thus render it immobile. Immobile tank = mission killed tank. The drone teams can just ingone it for a while and hunt another more important target until more drones sent to finish that tank.
>>65499777Trips of truth and annihilation.Droontroon thirdies on suicide watch.
>>65497486>We've been flooded by AI chatbots funded by thirdie nations and trained on fucking third world ESL phonepostersNo you haven’t, take your meds
>>65499808Drones don't aim at tracks, they aim at ammo storage, fuel tanks and engine if circumstances permit choosing point of impact.
>>65499089>army without tanks executes blitz krieg against army with Abrams tanks in the year 2026https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g7vr0lngwoThis is the power of the drone in year 2026.
>>65499489>this makes a lot of sense since most tanks with fat armor can take up to 20+ drones each I heard such vibes beforehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2905817.stm
>>65499777>passive agressiveThe aggressive one hurling insults because he is offended is you>but the other commentsAre not me. Because I am not the only one who has swallowed the bitter pill that tanks simply aren't viable at their current state
>>65496685>We invented itI take it you've never seen a Tank Mk.1 then.
>>65499949>unironic survivor fallacy
>>65500202>t-the aggressive onecorrect, i'm actually just aggressive, rightly so, because you are a subhuman and deserve nothing but aggression, you're a scared little bitch who only ever insinuates things because he's scared of direct conversation lol.>t-the bitter pillthat tanks aren't obsolete and your ego boosting fantasies are wrong? seems like you haven't quite swallowed that bitter pill, son.
>>65499949>i heard this reality before and it makes me angry because as a dumb dronenigger, i assumed all tanks got one-shotted by fpv drones.fixed it for you.
>>65499489>we're going to charge the enemy until they run out of bulletsDo tankfans really think like this or is it ragebait?
>>65496290Unless Israel has us fight China or something, it's going to stay tan.
>>65499889t. gunless outletless turdie
>>65496231>useless Javelin>no integrated APS/AA
>>65496289ahh that's better and makes more sense, thanks
>ukraine shitfest goes on for 5 years>noone in US procurement even bothers to acknowledge itJust keep buying obsolete 1970's ideas forever with ~upgrades~
>>65496231The new Abrams lacks soul IMHO And I hope the guns on top double as a small AA turret or it is retarded Pic related has SOVL
>>65499384To be fair to him since only whites can be American the actual count is something like 6.
>>65501965>>65501957>>65501936You can tell who has absolutely no idea what the vehicle in the OP is.
>>65496923>>65498088>>65496923So all you do is think about drinking my urine? While i'm flattered that you think in me in such a romantic way you aren't my type.>>65497491No, it was you.>>65497971No, never. 4 man turrets.>>65498152I will stand for my own autism thank you very much. >>65499343I liked the one where she pissed of the Centaurs and ran off shouting horse slurs better. Not /k/ related but i have this song on my mind lately; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJL70Lvt8OII know it is AI slop
>>65497465>Norktard 5PczJ/8PMc>Since I don't know his actual tripcode I can't actually get this properly. It isn't the ACTUAL Norktard but you guys are so fucking new you don't know the difference between somebody copy and pasting a tripcode and an actual tripcode.Correct, thank you for pointing out the difference. I'm reminded of old baby boomers who no matter how many times i have bought them a DVD player they can't be bothered to read the manual that comes with it.
>>65502793For the record ¶ I am getting really pissed of at impersonators ¶ why would you impersonate me‽
>>65496289>they said that was something they had lying around and put on because the CROWS looked empty without itWtf? Is this how Yankee weapons manufacturers behave? Are they serious? This ain't some 40 year old clapped out second hand car...wait
>>65505231The CROWS they had for it had the javelin mount so they put it on the mount. It’s something they could do if they wanted but wouldn’t be that useful so probably won’t be done.
>>65505231The point of the vehicle is moving the crew to the hull and a new powerpack. It's not designed with whatever will or won't be mounted on the roof in mind, it does not matter.
>>65496289>Thats the prototype for the prototype "proof of concept" is the term you are looking for
>>65497949What in the Oldhammer?
>>65496289
til nork sucker is a piss connosieurwhy am i not surprised
>>65502825>>65502793Shut up fag. No one cares about your blogposting.
You may not like it but this is the tank's ultimate form
>>65496231I bet the new M1a3 will have bullfrog turret integrated and receiving radar tracks from the trophy/iron fist radar on the cheeks and rear of the tank.
>>65511497A tanks ultimate form is protected by multiple gun equipped UGVs with radar. Also a mine clearing one in front as well. Tanks are gonna operate more like carrier strike groups in the future who have to demine, defend from air attacks and non line of sight gunnery
>>65511956"Bullfrog turret"And here I thought you were referring to the French.Bullfrog Turret by Allen Control Systems.The wait for demonstration and implementation will be excruciating.I don't think I could ever get involved with that work, despite how interested I am with militaria. Even though I don't hate math, I don't particularly love it either. Yet I imagine air defense is 90% calculus and trig.
>>65511993Are they really tanks at that point? It's an IFV + drone carrier + drone pickets at that point, plus maybe a HIMARs or SPG for high speed NLOS.
>>65512146WW2 tanks looked, and to large extent operated, quite differently from WW1, yet we kept calling them tanks.Tomorrow's tanks will just shift from being Paladin to Druid (companion pet drones).
>>65512146It is armored, tracked, has a gun, enclosed, and can't fit infantry inside of it. If the Schneider CA1 is a tank, so is it.
>>65511956The Army is going for 30mm RWS.
>>65496274Why? Everything but the steel is gonna be dry rotted or corroded, may as well recycle the hulls as well.
>>65512427while the Abrams X tech demo did feature a 30mm i doubt they will implement it because prox fused ammo is $500 a shot and produced in tiny numbers not to mention a small magazine. A burst of 7.62 or .50 is effectively free. Marines already use bullfrog in their closest L-MADIS
>>65512103They said in one of their recent podcasts or videos i cant remember that they currently track in real time something like 55 parameters with the goal to be over 200 in further revisions. they have to monitor current to each individual motor as none rotate the same and that dictates accurate rotation, motion of object, motion of turret in x,y,z axis when mounted on vehicles, range differences, size of target, list goes on
>>65512786$500 a shot is cheaper than the cheapest drones and 30mm reliably allows engagements against faster/larger/higher drones than your basic FPV
>>65497468It's >coprophagiaAnd it would be urolagnia.
>>65499889The situation is even worse if that is not the reality.>>65501247Greentext that.
>>65514209Do they make guided cannon ammo like those guided bullets they revealed a while back?
>>65514209The lead time is an issue for all of these weapons. The effective ranges end up being about 700m against non-maneuvering targets, and since a mavic or fixed-wing spotter drone calling arty today is typically 1200-2500m away, while a hypothetical western AI FPV is going to be ziggzagging and hugging the earth, I don't have high hopes for anti-drone point defense. Like, expect it to stop 1-2 old-style FPV drones coming in on an easy trajectory, not an artillery spotter, insurgent fiber-optic pilot or an AI doom swarm.
>>65505631The old Twilight 2000 WWIII game
>>65512786should just be using airburst rounds for the main gun, nevermind stupid add on's that can't reach out far enough
