>uh oh, looks like we're getting assaulted>better grab the rifle specifically made for countering it>regular one won't do, gonna need the heavy oneIs that what they had in mind when they designed such a fugly gun?
>>65511935Quite literally just a BAR autist who wanted to make modernize his favorite toy. Nobody uses these.
>>65511940He should have kept it to himself.
>>65511935BARs make my dick hard but I like modern optics and M4 stocks
>>65511935There couldn't be more than a few of these in existence. Yet you felt you needed to make a thread about this firearm like it was some kind of a threat to the world.
>>65511935id still rather have a 1918a1/a2 clone even if it’s technically less practical than an hcar
>>65511935I think the rationale was stopping cars charging checkpoints; since that was topical in the late 2000s with .50 beowulf often spitballed for this same role (never actually went anywhere though). They already had the capacity to produce BARs since the 90s, and 30.06 should handle an engine block even better than the meme round; so it wasn't much of a reach to add some modern furniture and take it to trade shows.>>65512044Does something have widespread in order to be to be mocked?
>>65511940iirc they were using receivers that came out blemished from their bar repros and said fuck it someone will buy this shit, might as well go full silly billy
>>65511935I just think it's neat.
>$6.5k>effective range of 1.2kmlmao
>>65512197Idgi
>>65512127>run an expensive ass gun in .30-06 to stop cars>could do same ass thing with an M14 or SR25 loaded with M993>BUT BLACK TIP IS EXPENSIV!>Use the $6.5k you would have wasted on meme gun to buy M993lol
>>65511935because somebody thought it was cool and wanted one, but because they're geartards they needed to make up a nonsense justification for spending their money. This is extremely common in the firearms industry.
>>65512280>BLACK TIPI wonder how regular old M80A1 would handle car engines
>>65512344This. A lot of trends in today's industry and before can be traced back to a body armor scare in the mid 00s.HCAR in .30-06 can be loaded with WW2 era M2AP and handle most plates below Level IV. M993 can be reloaded into .30-06 to handle most IVs if at 3,100ft/s. If you're dealing with very, very stout plates (Gilliam 8002, Adept Colossus, etc) then .30-06 permits a larger penetrator core than .308.Do not need to explain the M5 / M7.6.8 SPC was endorsed by DocGKR because it offered superior barrier / counter armor performance.6.5 Grendel had AP loads developed by Alexander Arms.
>>65512356Meanwhile in reality, our nearest peer is issuing slabs of mystery meat steel (pre-rusted) to their troops that are barely an inch thick for body armor
>>65512349Not super great. It's not AP, it is designed for superior terminal ballistics versus M80 while also doing better versus barriers. The core is actually softer steel than M855A1, so you can get awkward situations where stuff like AR500's A4 steel plate can do M80A1 fine but shits the bed against M855A1 out of anything longer than a 14.5"M61 is bare min. for .308 car engagements.
>>65512362Correct, as said, it was a "scare" - people genuinely thought gangbangers were going to do drive-bys with ESAPIs, so the police needed 6.8 SPC 110gr tungsten AP or ~85gr SLAP from SSA and shit for reliable Level IV defeat.Russia does have some potent body armor but has no way to actually issue it in large quantities. Same deal with AP ammo. They have 7.62x54 7N51 that can punch an XSAPI from 300 yards... and they've got fifty rounds of it so they better make it count.The US Military is the only armed force in the world with a serious body armor reserve. China has the ability to manufacture armor out the ass if they so choose but the quality is infamously mixed. Some good, some really bad.
ACSHULLY bc it uses a full power cartridge it would be a BATTLE rifle
the OG and only way to fly
>>65511935I think they're neat and would buy one if they weren't 5 gazillion dollars for seemingly no reason
>>65514021This. Why do they cost over $6k? The gun is not worth that at all, it's maybe a $1500 gun at best.
>>65514075Lot of machining in the full billet receiver and all those barrel dimples, all parts are proprietary, small scale means overheads aren't spread widely, etc.
>>65513771Thats not the original BAR though
>>65514075>>65514021Why do dumb zoomers think everything should be as cheap an a AR. How can you get into guns and have practically ZERO knowledge of machining or manufacturing?
>>65514804Why do dumb poorfags think anything that isn't an AR must be priced $6,000+? Even absolute garbage like the HCAR?
>>65514804>>65515644checked, nobody on this board has ever been within 100 miles of a firearmthey're all video gamers
It’s a cool toy. I like it. I’d pay 3ish thousand for it.
>>65514793my post+pic was specific reference to the tactical pistol grip OGthat is the Colt Monitor
>>65512133It works, tbf. I really want one.
>>65512044It lives in my mind rent free, I am upset by its existence because it makes me cringe and groan, and it's fun to shit on it with others