The Ukraine has quietly achieved success in pushing Russia back in a recent late May offensive, what military tactics were used by Ukraine to achieve this?
Are there other fronts where russians are receding?
>>65512333uncle ivans hairline
>>65512324We don't really know as ukranian sources still keep mostly quiet.
So much for building up to taking another run at Kiev. Womp womp
>>65512337entropy is Russia's greatest weakness, they don't have the ability like the US to wage a forever war, so any 'plans' just deteriorate into short lucky pushes and trying to defend
S-steinerovich will fix this...
>>65512324I think they first flood the area, they want to reclaim, with drones and then walk in. Not a new tactic, but has likely been refined.Why do the offensive now? I think it is because Ukranian drone production is now up to it and Russian heavy duty hardware is not up to the numbers required to resist these assaults.
>>65512324>quitely you do realise this region has seen 3 counter offensives so far within a year right?call me when they actually push them east of the river
>>65512351>muh dronesAll sources point to the ukranians achieving this through combined arms warfare, with mechanized infantry, armor and indirect fires alse playing a role. Drone superiority was just one aspect of it
>>65512333>receding
>>65512358ukrainains did something? mehcall me when they complete this goalpost I just moved and will move it later also.
>>65512383russia has retaken and lost this area three timesis this better?ok so then pushing them back to where they were in january three times without being able to push them back further(so far) means jack shit
>>65512324>not follow the war very diligently>remember hearing about lyman like 4 years ago or so>it's not even red yet despite endless "gains"Bravo, Russia, bravo.
Ukraine seem to be trying quite hard to keep OPSEC, which suggests to me its replicable elsewhere and involves methods which don't leave much open for Russians to interpret what's happened and react with defensive measures. With those two facts in mind, it can only be possible that the HATOGAY biolabs have succeeded in creating the gay zombie virus and Ukraine applied it swiftly. Brave Russian patriots too busy bumming each other in a catatonic state to resist. Cats and dogs living together in peace. The conscript's eggs finally turned upon the officer. Russia must react quickly and without mercy. An immediate attack on the heart of HATO homosex is demanded: Estonia. Article 5 must be triggered and proven as paper only, Patriotic Russian anal purity demands it!
>>65512358Some russian milbloggers talked about fighting happening in villages that are east of the zherebets river. Wether those led to gains on the east side is unkknown.>>65512351Russians seem to have some manpower shortage which might left them open to counterattacks. Reason for the offensive is to prevent a larger envelopment of Sloviansk and Kramatorsk.
>>65512403Ukraine likely regained around 400km2 here, which is more than Russia has taken elsewhere all summer. And Ukraine has also taken territory in other areas.>>65512418Constant lying within the russian military and leadership leads to certain issues. Villages that aren't taken are claimed as taken and so on. If Ukraine counterattacks, takes territory but doesn't proclaim it, then Russians internally need to announce that up the command chain, which their system discourages.
>>65512418as if pidors need a Umbrella tier super virus to give into their natural homolust. The real secret were the Boris Johnson cloning vats that are now 100% up and fully operational. Drones is not the only think UK is pumping out for Ukraine..
That explains the ridiculous amount of assblasted spam. Curiously enough, jannies left way more spam stay up this time than before.inb4 this thread gets deleted and the low effort spam stays up for days.
>>65512403day 1664 of the 3 day SMO to liberate Ukraine (not a real country, also the same people) from Jewish Nazis and steal their toilets
>>65512324Shutting up about any offensive actions and pretending that nothing is happening. Pretty much the opposite of what the russians are doing, who turn every basement that has a russian in it as "captured and secured territory".It helps that most pro-Ukrainian people reporting on the war are supportive of maintaining OPSEC, with the only reason as to why Clement Molin even blew the whistle on this was because it was so apparent that even Rybar was starting to report on it.
>>65512439>If Ukraine counterattacks, takes territory but doesn't proclaim it, then Russians internally need to announce that up the command chain, which their system discourages.I'm going to randomly guess that this also prevents FAB or missile usage as the higher ups aren't going to authorise those on "already captured" villages.
>>65512474>new ruling partyGermany's next election is 2029
>>65512403>GlovesOff>EyebrowRaised>MoskvaReturned>CrestsBum-touching, peaked>AssumptionsIn the garden>BearAwoken>TuvanShrugged>AssAss, foamed, blasted>MissileAss>Penis E.Light burns>MunitionsRubbered>Red lineApproached>HedgehogAggravated>CauldronSimmering>ApostlesSloping>AxisWorked>Trash heapClimbed>PantsGravy’d>VerticalStrengthened>CoconutsCorroded>ForelockSquared, sticking out, almost flew off>EggsBeing measured>CocksDisposable>SunFucked>RoosterPecking>FrogMatured>BoysMelting>GradBloomed>UnicyclesNeeded>Unused devicesCollected>WarheadsPleasuring >TungstenIn gearbox>MoronsEnchanted>BTRBT-Aren’t>SuitcaseWithout a handle>AirfieldQuietly exploding>SnakeWarmed up>ElephantBeautifully fucked>Logisticsdonkey>FateDefiantly twirling on the American penis>ADCucked>CaveLeft forever>DicksLead to our brother’s ass>SandwichFormed>Butterfucked>SausageOn top>Mustache and ballsJudged and scratched>UAVIn the asses of marble cows>141>FlightEternal
The commander of the 3rd Army Corps issued an official statement.He says that OPEC restrictions are being maintained intentionally.The operation is called “Vivaldi”The commander explains that it will have “four seasons”That's all we know at this point.
Russian lines are at the weakest that they have been in years. This is similar to the situation before the last mobilization, Ukraine is making good on Russian temporary weakness for inexpensive territorial gains. The way they are accomplishing this is by carefully mapping out Russian positions and taking out the sensors and communications at the front while hitting the drone teams and logistics in the back at the same time
>>65512497I'm always amused by the fact that I get most of these references.
>>65512474>Trump told Ukraine not to attack russian refinerieswho cares? ukranians will only abide by that if pidors stop bombing civilians and that ain't happening with this thugocracy>German new rulling partywho are you talking about? AfD? They will never have supermajority to be a ruling anything. As for the elections zigger propaganda is hyping up, it was a state election in the former DDR that had the highest support for these rusnig cockroaches by far. This is not some burgerland type of deal where whomever wins the elections takes all so you end up with russian assets, like trump, in complete control>allowing russia to sell their shit at higher priceonly ones they can sell their shit to is chinks who scalp them to nowhere end. Only one seeing higher profit from rusnig diesel, what little they can spare inbetween the refineries getting torched kek, will be changs now you prove (you) are not a concern troll. Mock monke and pidorstan
>>65512503It's all fun and games now but when we're old the hospital orderlies are gonna' think we're insane when we explain what we're laughing about.
>>65512474Trump pissed and shit himself and wrote a random tweet to vent about it. It means fucking nothing. His understanding about russia's current role (ie: lack thereof) in the global energy market is zilch and his attention span is five seconds long.
>>65512513>now you prove (you) are not a concern troll. Mock monke and pidorstanYeah, sure, fuck monke and gayssians
>>65512418>Ukraine seem to be trying quite hard to keep OPSEC, which suggests to me its replicable elsewhere and involves methods which don't leave much open for Russians to interpret what's happened and react with defensive measures.extremely easy to deduct, anon>ukrainians retake some land under mysterious (mystical?) circumstances>ziggers immediately try to assassinate BoJoyou should be able to solve this
>>65512500it took them four months to achieve this tactical-operational success. and for pidors it took over a year to get that salient in the first place. This isn't high speed maneuver warfare by any stretch of the imagination. By the time ukranian assault teams crawl their way across the river the trench lines and bunker dugouts will just be newly built depending on where the contacts take place. Same goes for wherever pidors try to snail forwards this is war purgatory where ukranians and pidors are stuck in a never ending war until monke goes back to hell
>>65512527okay, you are alright. but yeah, ukraines position is stable as long as EU finances it. Real danger is the baltics getting attacked if vatniks decide to funnel their new biomass up north. Them getting occupied and genocided Bucha style would be a major blowback for western cohesion and morale
>>65512480That would be a well known example of it. It also makes retreat harder, as first there needs to be an admittance that retreat is needed and by that time troops could already ben cut off. Your operational awareness will be entirely dependant on your side and russias lying culture works against it.
>Trump’s crocodile tears will save Russia
>>65512550>if vatniks decide to funnel their new biomass up northWith no armor, artillery, equipment or air support? Please fucking do so I can get webms of St. Pidorsborg getting bombed to shit by Finnish F18s and F35s
>>65512571In this instance they probably dumped drones into a thin front line until it was porous then combined arms through it with little resistance. Haven't seen anything from the egg measurers saying otherwise.
>>65512532Yes thankfully the Russians are too incompetent to quickly evolve because there is much room for improvement. It's such a shame that the end is still not in sight, it wears my heart out. I'm a bit worried about the mobilization and rhetoric, if they learn from Ukraine's success it could become difficult.
>>65512592Berlin status?
>>65512571The Russian salient was supposed to be the northern pincer for the attack on Kramatorsk, removing it will now force them to frontally assault north from Kostyantynivka. It also decreased the overall frontage that the Ukrainians need to cover, which will free up men for other sectors.
>>65512592You gotta consider this is a pro-russian map. See that river/lake combo on the right side named Zherebets River? There are indications the Ukies pushed right against it, cause milbloggers reported fighting in villages at and around that river including the east side. So its a bit more than just 3 villages.
How long did it take Puccia to gain that ground in the first place?
>>65512592>Ukraine is winning too slowly.
>>65512403They aren't anymore. The net gain the past few months has been more or less 0 for ziggers. This is a trend since the start of the year, which they began taking ground 5 times slower than the same time in 2025The grinder is running out of meat
>>65512416Well they still trying to conquer Donetsk
>>65512474>>Trump told Ukraine not to attack russian refineriesWhich they promptly ignored, as they bombed one today. The USA has no leverage over Ukraine anymore, that's what happens when you turn aid into a transaction. Art of the deal, as one would say
>>65512324>what military tactics were used by Ukraine to achieve this?Allegedly they rolled out some fancy new EW that works well. Normally that wouldn't be enough due to the proliferation of fiber-optic drones, but the recent AI datacenter madness + Wildberries/OZEN logistic centers being burn limited access to that heavily.
>>65512571Offensives can lead you into a more advantageous position or hinder your opponent in archieving theirs. The issue Russia has is that they treat conquering ground as inherently valuable, while in actuality its only valuable if it allows you to archieve your goals better or is ground on the way to your objectives. All while not crippling you with the costs, which is what Russia fails at currently.
>>65512624He lost all leverage when it became apparent that Ukraine has plenty of teenage whores of its own.
>>65512605At the very least, one year. At the very most, a year and a half.
>>65512624He really fucked up by depriving them of the Patriot missile license.
>>65512497>ChandeliersHovering
>>65512624Ukraines approach to this seems to be to turn it into a suggested cease fire and extend the things it covers. In this case energy infrastructure, civilian goods, etc. So if Russia agrees to not strike those then Ukraine wouldn't either. Knowing full well that Russia wouldn't agree or extremely quickly violate the cease fire. This then puts the burden on Russia, cause Ukraine is willing but Russia is not.Additionally the diesel comment is solely cause Trump wants to push them blame for higher oil prices on Ukraine and not the fucky wucky in the middle east.
>another pointless PR offensive, so that useful idiots can point at it and soiface
>>65512655>Denying Russia the opportunity to flank the Kramatorsk/Sloviansk line and forcing them to take it head-on is pointlessEver considered a career in the Russian general's staff?
>>65512655This is the same kind of person that cheers when Russia spends 1000 soldiers to gain 500m2.
>>65512643He really didn't. By the time Ukraine would be able to produce any significant amount of Patriots the war would have been over a long time ago. Freyja is cheaper, better, and is months awayrather than 5-10 years away>>65512571Losing land all the time is bad for Ukrainian morale and by pushing from Lyman now, Zelensky is preventing Kramatorsk from becoming another Avdiivka before winter comes and makes it basically impossible for Russians to sneak into the city.
>>65512684500 is a bigger number than 400, comrade!>>65512439
>>65512698You're lacking reading comprehension. 500 square meters is less than 400 square kilometers.
>>65512702
>>65512702Foolish wit!
>>65512416personally i always like to check on google maps how far away the ziggers are from Donetskit is a very easy and simple pleasure
>>65512418Don't worry, the sacred relics will put everything in order.If Ukies capture them my sides will figure in the casualty list.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/10/russia-orthodox-church-dmitry-donskoy-medieval-prince-hand-troops-ukraine
>>65512499>The operation is called “Vivaldi”Rofl, where is Wagner when you need them
>>65512613>The grinder is running out of meatwell that's unfortunate. is TZD a pipe dream after all?
>>65512324This success should be celebrated and amplified in order to push public sentiment in the US towards sending more aid, but it hardly gets front page coverage on the major outlets. It is frankly abhorrent how the US has become much less open in the information space since Trump took office.
>>65512593Unified under NATO and the EU.Palace of the Republic? Gone, reduced to atoms.
>>65512727You're not wrong, but in that case it's usually irreplaceable Soviet Lostech getting schwacked.
>>65512497I remember reading a:>kneesheadbuttedbut for the life of me I am unable to find the source. Do anyone else remembers or did I shift timelines?
>>65512744You didn't "shift timelines," you just made like Abe Lincoln and got senile except unlike him, you probably haven't retired yet.
>>65512764Lincoln was still in office when he was assassinated.I guess we figured out who the retard is...
>>65512764I wonder what specific breed of thirdies have a gripe with Abe of all people.
>>65512764>you just made like Abe Lincoln and got senile except unlike him, you probably haven't retired yet.What is this retard saying?
>>65512336This is much better than what they were doing previously and one of the more apparent indicators that they’ve become more of a professional force. They got way too cocky and sloppy after the Kharkiv and Kherson counteroffensives and paid the price for it during the Zaporizhzhia counteroffensive, which they telegraphed for like a solid 6 months before it happened on basically every platform they could, so the Russians didn’t even have to guess where to build a meat wall lmao. Insane to think that even happened looking back, arguably one of the greatest strategic blunders Ukraine has made in this war, even more than the Kursk incursion.
>>65512404pushes like this require men and materiel, russia has a 10:1 advantage on that, so any back and forward movement is heavily favored to them, i'd bet this is actually somewhat their plan.
>>65512824>KurskKursk never even would have fell if it wasn't for the north korean reinforcements. I wish South Korea had the balls to stop them from entering Russia. It is so annoying seeing counteroffensives get fucked up by seemingly infinite meat waves of unpaid third world slaves
>>65512643The war might be over by the time the first pac-3s start rolling off the assembly line. What really fucked them over is the US blowing its load over Iran, because now the US can't even blackmail them over selling interceptors
>>65512824>which they telegraphed for like a solid 6 months before it happened on basically every platform they could,The PR wasn't done for YouTube subscribers nor to put hair on the chest of 8 yo Mykola, retard, it was specifically done to mobilize deliveries of hardware from the West, of which they received only a 3rd of what they wanted.There are several reasons it failed, some of which were beyond their control, but the PR game, back then when they were the most dependent on physical Western hardware (and not just cash), simply had to happen
>>65512836That’s very true, but in hindsight Ukraine probably could have used the troops and resources it poured into Kursk more at Pokrovsk. Had they done that I think they could have broken Russian momentum in Donetsk after a few months of hard attritional urban warfare considering how shallow Russian reserves appear to be (supported by the fact their momentum has stalled out only 20ish km past Pokrovsk even though it was taken 8 months ago) and how favorable the K/D ratio appears to be for Ukraine in urban combat. Stalling Russia in Pokrovsk for another year would have looked better on the global stage (particularly for Trump) and wouldn’t have given pretense for Putin to invite nork soldiers to fight his war. Trump was always going to be biased against Ukraine because of the Biden association but the news of Ukraine losing ground in both Kursk and Donetsk probably erased any inclination Trump might have had to hear out the pro-Ukraine argument early in his term. He’s looking for easy geopolitical wins, he’s not a thinker and planner like Nixon. So if Ukraine is losing land then to him they’re the ones who need to surrender, no room for interpretation, which is bad news for Ukraine.
>>65512527>ukie money literally depicts western supportThat's kinda sweet :3
Even the Chinese are fucking dunking on Russia lol
>>65512592What happened to "every inch gained is an inch Ukraine will never get back"?
>>65512733>where is Wagner when you need themCurrently being sacrificed to dark gods sleeping dreamlessly beneath the Sahara
>>65512990>ook ook nookyawn
>>65512324Are they calling it "quiet" because a full week into there's zero footage or geolocations to suggest that it's even real?
>>65512416The salient that Russians lost within 2 months tpok tgem over a year to get as far as they did by the way
>>65512730Fun tangent about that guy: To the layman he threw off the Tartar yoke, but in reality the Golden Horde regrouped and reasserted tributary status. His real long term success was leaving Muscovy as the dominant power among the Rus'. Couldn't make it up.
>>65512418>The conscript's eggsNothing more dangerous than an ovulating enlisted
>>65512419My understanding is that due to the open, low lying terrain east of the river, it's better to clear the villages but not hold them so that Russians can't build up a presence to attack the west. Then they have to commit to costly assaults across open predictable terrain
To be honest Russia has managed to play their pieces on the board rather well when it comes to making the rest of Europe either rely on them for energy, making them unstable by funding radical parties in their government or both, however this "military operation" is fucking insanity, and an utter testament on how much war has changed since WW2
>>65512474>Trump told Ukraine not to attack russian refineriesOfficially, Ukraine agrees to an energy truce too.But Zelenskyy has now pulled a Columbo and remembered one more thing at the last minute, some conditions, his boss insists you see.So now it has to be a grain corridor too and an energy truce would naturally include critical infrastructure, and of course Russia keeps breaking these truces so there need to be some gaurantees and some international enforcement of it.And a bunch more things that would make the truce into a trap for Russia. So Russia will reject the conditions and it's just a game of who can say no to the truce while seeming to say yes.
>>65512532Bro the snail has to be in France by now
>>65512920>Telegraphing the exact location you want to attack on social media for monthsIt was obvious to anyone with half a brain where they would attack, that's why the russians built a massive network of fortifications there
>>65512383The goalpost has merely performed a tactical recessionA gesture of goodwill and brotherhood
>>65512474>German new rulling partyNo such thing, retard. The election everyone's talking about is a single STATE election, not a federal one. And even there AfD doesn't have enough of a majority to form a state government it looks like.
>>65512593Same as it has been all year?
>>65512990fuck off bottle-squatter
>>65512550>Them getting occupied and genocided Bucha style would be a major blowback for western cohesion and moraleI think it would galvanise it actually.Actual EU and NATO blood flowing would be far more real to western populations and a vindication of everything that was said about stopping Russia in Ukraine before they got to "our" borders.
>>65512982>Even the Chinese are fucking dunking on Russia lolChinese in general don't have especially good opinions of Russians, except that they like the bbq and think the girls are hot.
>>65513034>To be honest Russia has managed to play their pieces on the board rather well when it comes to making the rest of Europe either rely on them for energy, making them unstable by funding radical parties in their government or bothYeah, nobody is saying that they aren't good at psyops and corrupting other nations.That might have been more other people though, not Putin.He was never in charge of the FSB, even after it answered to him. He was more of a peer to the FSB head and the success they had were probably not his doing.Now that heads of the FSB have come and gone, it's more under his control and we see them being far less successful.I think Putin is kind of bad at this, he was carried by people who are now mostly retired.
>>65512380Fucking based>>65512474Fuck your concern trolling, Kim hasn't answered their calls for over a month besides a few pre agreed on KN-30s, they are getting desperate.>>65512836>>65512898Worst Korea seems to have figured out roughly the same thing as Best Korea: They don't want to fight each other and neither one wants to take over the other one since it is more trouble that it is worth not counting the nuclear aspect. They both want to develop themselves while selling weapons and arming themselves to the teeth against bigger regional (or global in the Norks case) powers. This works out well for both. >given pretense for Putin to invite nork soldiers to fight his warIn hindsight Ukraine should have hit them as hard as possible to deter Kim from sending more; this can be excused on Ukraine's part due to the multi generational intelligence failure of the west assuming that their weapons and troops sucked. Everyone including your humble narrator was surprised that not only do they not suck they are better than Russians. >>65512982And i just realized that the Nork's big power production and digital push is because Kim wants a decentralized power/computing network so they can power and create a decentralized Nork AI. Juche but quasi sentient and living in the blockchain, not the hero the world wants but the hero the world needs according to Sung's digital ghost**There are several KILOMETERS of triple or even quad floor library stacks documenting the Kims wisdom and every action, quote and fart. If there was anyone capable of being digitally resurrected as a AI it is them especially Sung.
>>65512982The whole reply on that was funny
>>65512779>>65512793>>65512804Maybe the shifting timelines joke was too high-brow.
>>65512351Monke is allegedly going to try a funny and mobilize more meat.Retaking ground before that happens means that when that meat gets herded to the front at worst they'll just put themselves right back where they were a year ago instead of gaining ground.
>>65513056Not quite, but it is still ahead of Russia (and given current trends, will likely be opening up its lead for some time).
>>65512333Velyka Novosilka. But I bet you'll ask what about a third front
>>65513175>except that they like the bbq and think the girls are hotNot gonna lie, Chinese people are pretty based when they want to be.
>>65513260>they are better than Russians.Let's not pretend that's a high bar to stumble over, Norktard. Even inbred sandniggers seem to perform better than russniggers.
>>65512733Dying in the Sahel to an offshoot of ISIS / Al Qaeda.
>>65512324time to move the russian snail back again
>>65512532I wonder what would happen if monke ook'd his last? But sadly it seems evil 80 year old men have incredible longevity so it means god is evil and enjoys watching their antics.
>>65513520But still: Norks have proven to be capable and their weapons are serviceable. They can fight and fight well. They treat their dead and wounded well. Technically many of their weapons are superior to Russian weapons. Their soldiers only flaw so far has been ignorance of battlefield conditions and spending too many lives to retrieve their fallen, i count that last point as a virtue. Two Norks taken alive (out of what, 50,000?) and they had to break their arms, legs and jaws after they got knocked out? Show me anyone else in this war who has soldiers like that.
>>65513563The Shoigun would take over and the circus will go on, most likely. The Czar's lifespan is no longer the hard cap since so much has been expended, betted on and restructured for this irredentist adventure that the second it stops their economy will implode in a way that will make the crash of 91 look like a minor hiccup in the bond market.
>>65512624>That's what happens when you turn aid into a transactionAll aid is a transaction, you absolute troglodyte. In no world is there a future where Ukraine doesn't spend the next 500 years repaying war loans and Russia spends the next thousand as impoverished war criminals. But they still have to pay back every single fucking cent.
>>65513586They still don't seem to have plate carriers and are still using ironsights if video evidence is any indication so it's only a marginal improvement over your average mobik.
>>65513477>>65513511Checked and observed.>>65513622They have plate carriers and plates to go with them, they are pretty well equipped from what we have seen so far. They do seem to use iron sights, so what? >ironsightsSo your biggest whine about their troop quality is that they can shoot straight with their rifles without needing toys because they are actually trained how to use their basic weapons? That is not a criticism, it is a compliment.
>>65512497>>65512503I want a reference guide for each of these because I haven't followed these threads as closely.
>>65513613But one will be an EU member state and the other will cease to exist as it inevitably balkanizes
>>65513644>They have plate carriers and platesHaven't seen them, feel free to share.>toysNorktard, thermals and red dots are a must nowadays. Same as NVGs were in the 90s. They aren't toys, they are force multipliers. Specially in a battlefield saturated with IRS UAVs, mine-laden UGVs and loitering munitions.
>>65512470>it's 2022 and russia is about to take Lyman it's over for gay hato trannies>it's 2023 and russia is about to take Lyman it's over for gay hato trannies>it's 2024 and russia is about to take Lyman it's over for gay hato trannies >it's 2025 and russia is about to take Lyman it's over for gay hato trannies>it's 2026 and russia is being pushed back from Lyman stop making fun of us :(
>>65513034more a matter of timing than skill (although I suppose timing is a skill as well), Europe would be having these same political problems about now even if Putin had done nothing because they are primarily a result of social forces within Europe and the west
>>65513034>To be honest Russia has managed to play their pieces on the board rather wellThat evaluation only works if you judge it purely based on how much Russia can make life harder for other people while neglecting how much Russia has completely fucked itself over to do so
>>65512497>Mustache and balls>Judged and scratched>UAV>In the asses of marble cowsLMAO, what
>>65512343open the strait
>>65513671They have good basic equipment, a huge complaint when they first showed up is that they were fully equipped. These are not Mobniks, they are mostly KPA SF or force recon equivalents. >Norktard, thermals and red dots are a must nowadays. Same as NVGs were in the 90s. They aren't toys, they are force multipliers. Specially in a battlefield saturated with IRS UAVs, mine-laden UGVs and loitering munitions.Of course, thermals, NVGs ect. You are absolutely correct. However it only goes so far. A basic Nork troop in Ukraine has had the equivalent of 4 years of US National Guard training starting at age 14-18 via their Youth training services. Plus 8 years minimum as a volunteer enlisted man. An Officer (O-1) is in his early 30s and has close to two decades time in service as a senior NCO. I am pretty damn motherfucking sure the average Nork soldier in Ukraine knows how to shoot his rifle better than your average Russian conscript seeing as the average Nork has more YEARS of training than your average Russian solider has DAYS of training.
>>65513791Unless Kimchi makes them see in the dark, it matters diddlysquat. Last I checked their racial bonus was panoramic vision, not night or thermal vision.
>>65512499>VivaldiWould the finale be... uhh... Wagner?
>>65513791You mean the starving conscript who are mandated to steal from civilians or forage for food? We all saw how the NK that arrived in Ukraine behaved: they got annihilated. Stop being such a retarded fanboy
>>65513791Addendum to this: The DPRK's Officer and NCO system is really good, it is one of the best in the world in terms of how it works. They get really loyal and competent NCOs/Junior Officers. It is also very slow and takes alot of time which is why so many of their leaders are so old. >>65513810Last time i checked their racial bonus was being competent, having unending amounts of ammunition and being a ballistic missile factory disguised as a nation.Unrelated to this thread: There will probably be a big DPRK related conventional weapons test published this weekend. They are probably flexing this weekend, i'll try to cover it and download/convert their .kcmsfs so you don't have to deal with that shit.>>65513840They did their job, got honored by their Government with individual statues, got a honest account of how they died then their units survivors got entire apartment complexes devoted to their families in Pyongyang while Kim met with each one individually on national TV for 2 weeks 24/7?So tell me, how are dead Russians or Ukrainians treated in this war?
>>65513861If they can't see shit at night, they are combat ineffective 50% of the day, you gormless gourd. This isn't rocket science.
>>65513586What's the basis for your schizo lust for Kim cock? Why are you retarded the way you are?
>>65513891holy shit the face saving cope in this thread.
>>65513891>Ukraine lost a lot of foreign support by using expensive weapons in such a wayNot quite. Support dried up long before the Wildberries campaign and the international reaction was total indifference because Wildberries had the 200IQ idea to create a category of goods in their website explicitly labeled as intended for use in the war, thus destroying any plausible deniability. They have since deleted it, but nobody (except delusional churkas and tiblas) is of the opinion that they aren't a valid military target.
>>65513917They're not targets anymore, I think there's maybe 4-5 of their warehouses left that aren't razed to the groundOzon seems to be next up on the block to get the chop, really quite spectacular how ferocious the fire is from cardboard, plastic wrap and rubber cocks goes up
>>65513871They can you silly fool. They have had NODs and thermals, 323s have had thermals since before the collapse of the USSR in 1990. The point i'm trying to make is your average Russian troops don't have them and wouldn't know how to use them in the first place. The average DPRK solider has YEARS more training than the average Russian has WEEKS or even DAYS. >>65513894I spent a decade studying them professionally in the Military and foolishly read the Complete Works of Kim Il Sung, all 48 English translated volumes. It is like reading the Necronomicon in a HP Lovecraft story; once you actually understand Juche and what the fuck they are talking about it starts making sense. I am fully aware that the fact that i understand how their nation functions makes me functionally insane by normal standards, they are really weird. Don't study Juche too much, it is like the anti-Amish.>"Only the insane have strength enough to prosper; only those who prosper may truly judge what is sane."
>>65513891> I don’t think ukraine has many drones.You know I have been considering one of the Su-34 keychains. Today’s the day I guess. I do wish I could get it in to something more useful like a pen.
>>65513943I'll bite, explain it to me like I'm a mossback.
>>65513943The parts that are massive aren’t modern, the parts that are modern aren’t massive. It’s always fascinating when you do finally see a decent video of a well equipped Russian unit.
>>65513891>I don’t think ukraine has many drones.They expend thousands of drones daily. It isn't unreasonable to think it's up to 12K a day.
>>65513943Also i read a few dozen State Department/CIA Country Guides from about the DPRK from around 1978 to 2003. They were just sitting on a shelf at my unit so i took them home and started reading. It's how i know they can make a x86 chip and why.>>65513953The Nork troops are from a nation that has spent it's entire existence waiting for a apocalyptical war and trains it children from the age of 9 or 12 then does paramilitary training equal to US reserve troops until they are 18. . AFTER this they can compete to join the Norks military. In comparison to this, Russia drags random drunks off the streets then two weeks later shoves them in the general location of a machine gun or drone nest.
>>65513978>It's how i know they can make a x86 chip and why.I've usually just ignored you, but now I know that you just say stuff that is obviously untrue.What you're really proposing is that they got ahold of some one off equipment like photo-lithography machines (which famously break down in a manner that requires constant experienced aid to maintain) so they can produce stuff at whatever stagnant node process it makes. And then they got ahold of some masks for whatever x86 CPU that is compatible with their machinery. This argument doesn't even make sense. It's actually a super pathetic geostategic move that does fuck all to change North Korea's position.In reality, North Korea imports their x86 processors, and the rest of their hardware (hey by the way the "rest of the hardware" is another reason your claim just now is laughable bullshit. It doesn't matter if you can make a Pentium 2 or whatever at small scale if you can't make the computer it goes into). The same as they import basically all of the rest of their military technology.
>>65513547This upset me
>>65512497Is there a 2026 version. Would love to dab on some more communist aligned friends.
>>65514001Yes, they did that. They got them from the UN in the 1990s, it is how they are self sufficient in basic semi conductor chips. Or are you trying to ignore the 2-3 North Korean observation satellites currently flying over your head in a polar orbit?* *Assuming your nearest pole is the North One, i wouldn't want to offend south oriented persons, i don't really care what your map orientation is. All i care about is completing the Giza Pyramid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMWDOg0_ATI&t=5s
You may be laughing, but this just means Russia is advancing to the east at a very fast pace, Ukraine will fall soon enough.
What military is Russia going to have after this is over?
>>65514096AAK74's, brown-brown and berrypickers vs oil shamans vs neo-jeet dalit empire vs muslim huns>>65514022snail not harmed, also moving faster than Russia advances
>>65514096The Neo-Tuvan Khanate will have the finest donkey cavalry armed with single-shot, stockless shotguns.
>>65514096A Nork occupation force that is there to make sure that Kim's bitch in Moscow stays in-line
>>65512982Is he wrong though?
>yfw your zoomer ass gets mooooooobilized by monke, sent to attack the baltics, and a Finnish suicide drone is making a beeline for your genitals
>>65514096https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Journals/Military-Review/English-Edition-Archives/September-October-2025/Lessons-from-Ukraine/they will never throw such amount of bodies ever again something we all knew but at least now even usa understands it
>>65514096Whatever their new master Xi allows them to have
>>65514195there is also this ttps://oe.t2com.army.mil/product/russia-ukraine-conflict-north-korean-lessons-learnedbut it needs cac access tldr north korea is building 3 plants for geran like drones and they are shaping their structure to copy the russian mobile drone one
>>65513320There were some hilariously angry Russians in the reply.
>>65513511In reality both of those whores are spending all that money on drugs and makeup
>>65514022
>>65513613>loan forgiveness doesn't exist EU aid to Ukraine get's packaged as a loan so the gmGeemans won't bitch.but the terms of said loans all but make it a gift
>>65514125Russia has only degenerated though, not advanced.
>>65513833>Would the finale be... uhh... Wagner?I'm certain that Azov named this operation for that express reason.Ukrainians love to troll and wignats believe trolling is the highest form of political action anyway.
>>65514125You need to stay alive to preserve experience
>>65514185>Is he wrong though?The laughter is not because they think the chink is wrong.
>>65514257Anon is infected by the empathy mind virus, please understand
>>65512499>OPEC restrictionsheh
>>65513833Imagine the kino if it turns out that Prigozhin is alive and 4th season is him actually marching with Wagner on Mosquew
>>65514259>>65513613>forgive loan>de-valuate your currency>WIR SIND WIEDER WIR SIND WIEDER EXPORTWELTMEISTER4-dimensional Snakes and Ladders.
>>65513547Don't bully the snel
>>65513891I have a gut feeling this is master-class baitIf not: kill yourself zigger
>>65514396>if you forgive a loan that amount to less than 0.01% of you GDP that will crash your currency
>The Ukraine
>>65513034I mean, this is pretty undeniable. They're successfully mindbreaking retards in the West both on the left and on the right. Both German far left and German far right are vehemently pro-Vatnigger.
>>65513613No it isn't, you clueless faggot, lol. Plenty of aid was provided not as a loan but literally for free. The very last aid package passed through Congress was initially just aid until Krasnov started pulling the strings of his marionettes, like Johnson, and they redesigned it as a loan so that he could boast that Zelenskike was no longer "scamming" AmericaUnless you're being a homo and defining political and diplomatic leverage as part of the "transaction" of "free" aid, but it's pretty clear that I meant a monetary transaction
>>65512982I wish we could see the average Chinese take on this more often, because they do come up with the occasional gem now and then.
>>65512497>bum touching crests!Probably my favourite thing that came out of this special needs operationJust tickles my funny bone to no end
>>65512358Farming vatniks, probably. Have you never heard of spawn camping?
>>65513934Yeah, it's going to be a strange winter this year, since Wild Berries and Ozon serve as a dumping ground for just so much miscellaneous shit that we might end up reading about a chronic underwear shortage in Russia or that people are being forced to incense as kindling because they can't get their hands on chemical firestarters.Those warehouses are just like their ammo dumps, just on a mind-bogglingly stupid scale.
>>65512734They started sending drafts to women now as well to get them to replace the men in the drone corps so they can go off and get cubed. In theory, this could lead to women being killed before they can have children, leading to the exponential growth of TZD in the long-term.
>>65514476They have tried farming them in big pits a few years ago now and they just didn't grow very well. Latest trick is trying to graft them onto trees with packing tape to see if they'll send out buds but they've done it all summer and got fuck all for their efforts.>>65514480Once you get out of the cities its pretty hard for the average zigglet to get basics ranging from toiletries, toothpaste, shampoo etc so Wildberries was a bit of a lifeline to civilization such as it is in the post-commie shit hole slum or 2 dog, 1 horse village they live in. No one sets up businesses out there because goodness knows anyone with the money to do it just goes... yeah fuck that, this place is awful!Couriers will travel there so online shopping was a big deal for many, especially if you didn't have a car or internal passport, money for fuel to travel to some other dump that probably doesn't have anything you need either.I hope so many russians freeze this year because they won't be able to soak up the damage to energy infrastructure, once the power goes out in those cities it gets real cold
>>65514490the main problem is that russia is still selling argicultural stuff to europe so they cant just throw pesticides like ukraine does
>>65513891>After Ukraine attacked the civilian warehouses in Russia, Russia attacked ukraine pretty hardMore like Russia continued terror-bombing civilians just as they had all war, regardless of wether Ukraine lately hit any "civilian" warehouses engaged in miltiary logistics.>and Ukraine lost a lot of foreign supportUkraine hasn't lost any foreign support, pidorovich.>by using expensive weapons in such a way Ukraine used cheap and domestically-produced weapons to kill WIldberries and Ozon.>Poland is currently fortifying the border with ukraineCool story, retard.>Some say Ukraine suffered massive losses to retake that land"Some" meaning certifiable sunbhuman retards and Kremlin propaganda shills.> I don’t think the Russians actually held on to it. They held onto it hard enough that they now have units encircled behind ukrainian lines, pidorovich.>Russia seems to be sitting back and waiting.What, so they're losing over a thousand men a day while doing nothing? Well that means they'll be losing hundreds of thousands in weeks if they ever try to do anything. So we can agree that Russia has lost any and all capability of meaningful attack.>I don’t think ukraine has many drones.Yeah, they're only building a four-digit number per day domestically and buying more from abroad.> And I hope they captured the area without using any drones. They need to save everything they got. LOL. LMAO, even. The daily droning of your fellow ziggers will continue.>I’m surprised they didn’t push the Russians back in an area that mattersThey did exactly that, though. And are also pushign them back in all other areas that matter. There's a reason Russia has been losing ground for the last 6+ months now outside of zigger propaganda claims, pidorovich.>I think we need to wait a few months to see what the outcome will be. We knew the outcome back in 2022 already: Russian defeat. Only the magnitude of it has been in question since.
>>65514165I like our Ukrainian refugees. A good way to pad out our workforce without importing browns. Which is the solution that russia seems to be employing
>>65514165>And when they don’t have enough,Well that's nice, pidorovich. They are however, building enough domestically.>it’s not looking good. In what delusional fantasy of yours? Drone production has been risinbg steadily and they if at all are having a surplus by now. With no sign of those trends doing anything but further accellerating.>With the number of Ukrainian service men fleeing the battlefieldsAka an insignificant trickle outside of zigger propaganda claims.>I’m afraid it will get much worse with a hard winter. Yeah. For Russia.>At this point I’m not sure if it would better if ukraine went all in on a big counter offensive to push the Russians out before it’s too late or if it would be better to pull back and fortify behind the river. That could buy them a few more years at least. Or they clould just continue to mass-slaughter ziggers on the current line of contact until Russia collapses, which by every known metric will be long before Ukraine gets even close to risking the same.
>>65512497I 'member the bare ass aggravating the hedgehog
>>65514096I'm actually not as optimistic as everyone else here, I expect them to double (or I guess triple) down on revanchism because this is going to be another embarrassing episode for them that will hurt but not destroy Russia. They will continue to devote all their efforts to undermining and getting back at Europe and the US for the foreseeable future out of sheer pettiness.
>>65514528>They will continue to devote all their efforts to undermining and getting back at Europe and the US for the foreseeable future out of sheer pettiness.Go for it. Everything they dare to do against us is nothing more than flea bites, while our casual slap utterly shakes the entire foundations of their diseased society. They hold on to animal survival by sheer chance of sympathetic shills being elected in our governments>>65514536It took Snowmalia over a year to capture those "3 villages", btw
>>65514536Vatnigger, you celebrate taking every bombed-out garden shed like you've captured Berlin, shut your bitch ass up.
>>65512500I wonder if we will ever see the likes of TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO again.
>>65514441You can judge people easily by who they decide to be friends with. Afd and bsw out of their own free will decided to align themself with genocidal Russia. In Saxony they could form a goverment together, they disagree on many things except they both are pro Russia. Helping russia in their murderous rampage is a higher priority to them than anything else and thats who people vote for hoping to lead the country. Its a very damning insight. All those jokes for the US about israel first in reality and here we see something similar.Trump equally chooses to see dictators as his friends. Putin, Xi, Kim. He calls them friends in his tweets, that should tell you all about the man.
>>65514543Yeah but neither of us cares about what happens to them, they've already accepted their lot, but for normal people, it's quite annoying having to anticipate the biding chimpout every time
>>65514257Don't be mean to snails.
>>65514557we will see it happen again before the war ends
>>65514557Those vatnik cunts shot a drone at Jim Mattis' train the other day, he should join up in the AFU and fuck em up
>>65514560>in drones agenormalnigger ism.there is no "drone age"drones have been employed for decades, and the traits that make them so effective at the moment come with clear downsides that can be countered with purpose-built anti-drone weaponry. you're a retard who's assuming nobody is going to build special anti-drone systems because >"well now that my ego-stroking drone battlefield is in effect nobody is ever allowed to innovate again."it's very silly.
>>65514250In reality none of that ever happened except in a seething chinkoid brainscape
>>65513456Maybe it wasn't very good.
>>65513547That was a years worth of advances youd monster
>>65512735Tbh I think the Ukrainians are trying to maintain strict OPSEC because the last time they tried a major counter offensive every one knew about it weeks/months in advance and the Russian defensive lines were well prepared in anticipation.
>>65514721>Tbh I think the Ukrainians are trying to maintain strict OPSEC because the last time they tried a major counter offensiveThat's a valid reason but there's another one.If they don't tell everyone what they've just done, it's conceivable that nobody on the Russian side will say shit about it either.If junior officers don't report lost positions and generals don't report lost towns, it's conceivable that the Russian army wouldn't know at a command level that it had even been lost.The people lower down the chain will know not to route supplies/men there but a few could still slip through the cracks and walk into Ukrainian screening forces, the reserves that you'd need to plug the hole will be allocated elsewhere or kept back waiting for announcement of a breakthrough.You won't get the priority in armour/munitions/men that you'd need to recover either because you're not telling your boss why you need them.This will continue until Russian bloggers start talking about it, at which point, someone in Putin's office will ask the army what's going on there and the army will be forced to investigate and find out.So good opsec will enable far longer and deeper exploitation of local collapses than if it is announced with victory flags in the town square.The latter are just useful for refuting enemy propaganda, though I also wonder if maybe that's not also a missed opportunity.
>>65514775That's quite a bit of battered front as well and they've been 'doing shit' there for some time. So my impression is they're up to something far more dastardly than kicking the ziggers back across the river. There's other salients in that region which could be getting some kind of surprise.Plus the rest of us are just distracted by drones, fire and malding in RussiaNot super convinced but if there's a large force presence there operating around innabush they could be gearing up to really mess some other shit up while Russian command pretends nothing's happening
>>65514801>That's quite a bit of battered front as well and they've been 'doing shit' there for some time.This is also happening against a backdrop of starved supplies to Crimea and Kherson oblast.If Ukies are attriting Kherson oblast positions with FPVs, there could be some areas that are hollowed out and ripe for raiding shenanigans.
>>65512499>we called it vivaldi because it has four seasonsclassy fuckers
>>65514125>>65514528Where will the money for the post-war Russian "renaissance" come from? >Inb4 oil and gas
>>65514931krokodil and 5 dolla blowjobs, just like the 90s!
>>65514935I read picrel. The author spends a chapter passing on anecdotes he collected about how awesome it was from a personal level to be a Western businessperson in Moscow for a time.
>>65514422Only if you've taken loans against those loans.
>>65514536>Meanwhile the other side is celebrating and gloating about villages they haven't even captured in real life yet
>>65512358>call me when they actually push them east of the riverThey just pushed them east of the river.
>>65515466so the Russian salt mines are operating at peak capacity today
>>65515466oh god here come the pidors and jeets
>>65514566Isn't that just showing how fucked they are?russia is treating this like another victory-or-death AAAAAH MOTHERLAAAAAND war and are basically throwing *everything* at it... and the West is barely raising an eyebrow in annoyed response and tossing Ukraine some hand-me downs and coins and half-hearted cheers.Imagine what would happen if they really crossed the threshold where the normies start to agree that ziggerstan's devastation is not only morally correct but economically good policy.In before "they're smart enough to know not to cross that line" - they were stupid enough to cross the line into Ukraine in the first place. They are retarded.
>>65515486They’ve been spamming scat porn all day long over at /pol/.
>Wake up>Major General Anton Grunis is kill>>65515493yesterday there was a 'jak raid, and a dude repeatedly spamming """black on orange crime""", let's say.
>>65515466>2026>russia lost full control of luhansk too nowKEKAROOO1.5 million zigger casualties for no luhansk and no donetsk
>>65515466>>65512358>call me when they actually push them east of the river>they did a little over a day laterlmaofucking destroyed
>>65515622not destroyed at all i didnt expect them to push cause russia has a shitload of men there so either ukraine has even more soldiers there or russia pulled some out to send them elsewherewhich....was a bad idea apparently
>>65515480>so the Russian salt mines are operating at peak capacity todayThat's why Wagner was made to push so hard into Soledar, Russia needed the mines to build up a strategic reserve for later when things weren't going so well.
Guys the Ukrainians just won the battle for the bathroom in apartment 16B in the Liman Estates Apartments. According to Ukrainian sources, a meat wave of over 35,000 Russians was eliminated trying to defend the toilet direction.
>>65515641>Why are we still here? Just to suffer?Punished Pringels will return soon
>>65515671>return
casual /k/ person here who likes guns. Why dont they talk about tubes and arty anymore ? is it no longer a talking point for russian shills? just curious king of battle friends.
>>65515698uhhhhhh....
>>65515646
>>65515466Didn't need it anyway
>>65515685somehow he was the most competent leader in the Russian Army
>>65515646It took mighty bear more than a year and six-digit casualty numbers to capture said bathroom btw
>>65515671What if Wagner Group reverse engineered Boris Johnson’s cloning technology? Priggy might still be out there.
>>65515466What's the significance of the river? Besides it being a defensible line? t. not a zigger
>>65515761They're now all out of Oblasts
>>65515761Being able to establish a bridgehead across it does suggest poor Russian capacity for defense and maybe an opportunity for a localised push. So we'll see what happens.
I'm unironically starting to think that if this war keeps going for a couple more years, Russia will fucking collapse à la URSS. Especially after the elections, because a new general mobilization is coming and even the average Russian slave is tired of waiting 40 hours to fill their car
How exactly 14k dead soldiers was enough for russia to stop invading Ichkeria, but now they lose that much in what? Two weeks (unironically). And monke still going in.
>>65515761By losing full control of the last remaining oblasts, Russia loses the ticking warscore modifier that had kept them above zero warscore so far.
>>65515785Putin spent a lot of time coopting and marginalising such groups to shut them up, giving him a lot more leeway when his interests are clearly at odds with nearly everyone else in Russia.
>>65515785At current casuality rates, that's about 10 days for the russians. >What's the deal?Putin unironically had about as much political control on the country as the average Russian citizen does now. He had to be careful with what he did back then (Despite evidence pointing towards him ordering Russian intelligence services to bomb the apartment block that was the reasoning for the first or 2nd chechen war) while nowadays he can do whatever the fuck he wants because an act of God is now needed to force him to concede into pausing the war at the bare minimum
>>65515781nothing will happen r*ssians are the biggest cucks
>>65515781It'll only end when Monkey in chief dies. Besides, the Russians are merely a hive mind and cattle who act on the whims of the monkey.
>>65515742charismatic maybe not competent. he never had to do strategic planning.
>>65515761It's along the border of Luhansk Oblast, the only oblast Russia has fully taken over since 2022. Had.>>65515781This a BMP-1?
>>65515842>This a BMP-1?Yes, the webm is from late 2024 I think. BMP1 are practically extinct by now
>>65515807I think there will be a lot of draft dodging which blunts the effect of mobilising. Putin wanted a politically apathetic population, very difficult to drag them in now.
>>65515871good. grom is shit. I don't care how much gaijin buffs it in WT.
>>65515646>We didn't need the indoor toiletWe know.
>>65514709there are many russian models working in china these days, modelling agencies are awways hotspots for sex trafficking, you have to be really naive to believe there isn't a lot of that going on
>>65513260>Sung resurrected as an AII want Deus Ex from the PoV of the Norks now.
>>65516136>next Deus Ex takes place in North Koreakek
>>65513605even lukashenka has a higher chance of taking over than the wood collector lmao stop making ignorant comments
>>65516143On a side note, I'd love to see a Nork reaction to the 1984 movie (the 1984 one) apart from the fact John Hurt looks more ailing that a thin Nork.
>>65512333Armchair Warlord's hairline has been routed and is going through a disorderly withdrawal even as we speak.
>>65515710That pic shows the last 3 Ukraine fanboys still posting in these /k/ threads
>>65515466What’s the point in Russia continuing anyways? It’s just losing everything now.
>>65516275You're losing Luhansk, lmao
Ziggers celebrate taking small villages for absurd casualties and then cry when people point out Ukies taking back far more for far less. Seeing it back to back is so funny.
>>65515698Russia did run out of barrels and shells locally repeatedly. Can't tell you why it isn't a bigger topic, maybe people focused on drones.
>>65515698I think it turned out it wasn't such a huge issue, Ukraine still has military production safely underground, so these basic things can be easily replaced, also artillery isn't really used for massed fire anymore.
>>65516350>military production safely undergroundProofs?
At this rate, I'll never be able to toast to a fallen Ukie settlement ever again...
>>65512404Unironically no. A common and effective strategy is defense in depth and flexible front lines. Make the enemy pay for every mile, retake it when they refocus their efforts, and take no fight you aren't certain you can win
>russia losing ground is good actually>they are just luring hohols into cauldron
>>65516341>>65516350drones have replaced artillery as the majority % of kills some year or two agoartillery still plays a key role but it is diminished, outside of offensive actions it is used to snipe targets spotted by other means, a role in which it can be supplanted by rocket artillery, glide bombs, missiles, drone/missile hybrids etcas a consequence both sides of the conflict are unable to gather larger forces in a local area as they get instantly spotted and btfo - this in turn means maneuver warfare is impossiblethe posters tracking russian artillery losses in 24-25 were predicting a large enough hole in the russia's artillery arsenal that they won't be able to execute their 'barrage - > meatwave - > repeat' strategy of Bakhmut fame anymore thus halting their already pathetically slow creep forward this year. This prediction was consitent with what has happened.
>>65516431That's gonna be closed casket for sure.
>>65516431So which operator gets the bounty payment?
>>65516431Omg is he ok
>>65516468
>>65515829Emptying Russian prisons for warm bodies was a strategic decision, and more than any change made since Feb 2022 has had more impact than any other.As well as really everything else he did. No really he led by example and changed Russia's plans quickly.
>>65515785The people in charge of Russia at that time were not Chekists. That's the only difference. Once the intelligence services are in charge, your country is dead.This is why people like CIA butchers should never be considered for government.
>>65516535Bush Sr. Did a fine job. Russians are just bad.
>>65516468He looks fine, you can clearly see he instantly teleported somewhere else when the explosions tried to kill him.
>>65516541Bush wasn't CIA at any point.>but he was direBush is a career politician who sat in different political positions his whole life, and nothing else. He's CIA in the sense Trump is a career military officer.Putin was KGB who treats domestic politics like the CIA treats a Latin country.
>>65516438No it won’t. There won’t even be a casket.
>>65516553>Bush wasn't CIA at any pointWhat the fuck are you talking about, he was the DCI
>>65516562>but he was direBush is a career politician who sat in different political positions his whole life, and nothing else. He's CIA in the sense Trump is a career military officer.
>>65516562He was a career politician who wad appointed DCO, not a career spook who rose to it.
>>65516564He literally spearheaded Condor you fucking faggot
>>65516570Yes yes yes, in the same way Trump spearheaded Venezuela YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWNNo really, you have no argument or counterpoint that will ever make sense, you are wrong. Bush is as much CIA and Trump is military officer.
>>65516294Because they'll lose everything if they stop
>>65516438
>>65513056RIP snail
>>65516705jej
>>65516431
>>65516425WrongThe number you faggots all keep misquoting lists the number of confirmed kills.Fucking duh, these things have camera’s strapped to the front.
>>65516780No? There are no sources culminating numbers that are confused by that and they all agree the drones are doing the numbers vs simple infantry now. You aren't actually smarter than the other people in the conversation.
>>65516294Do you know any dictator that said that he was wrong and backed out without being ousted?
>>65515632>russia pulled some out to send them elsewherewhich....was a bad idea apparentlyI believe it was Ukraine who sent them elsewhere actually, the entire force there got transferred to the 9th circle.
>>65515466Mit dem Angriff Steinerows kommt das alles in Ordnung.
>>65516808Its like combat reporting-easy mode, there was a very long period of my life doing combat reports on the daily where you accounted for contacts, kills, captures, ammo, fuel, ordinance, broken things, broken people any support called in and most importantly your combat posture for the next 24h.I'm insanely jelly of drone ops, there's no fiddle fucking around or your accounts being called into question- its all there in black and white, what used and a BDA after. Anything from planes, trains, automobiles to someone's drunk Uncle Boris getting his cock rocked by half a pound of high ex and ball bearings gotta fucking love it
>>65515761Getting across a river is fucking hard. If you can make it over, that means you're doing well. Conversely, holding control of the river makes it that much more difficult for the enemy to push back, entrenching your gains in the area.
>>65516468A bag of cement will fix him right up
>>65516941Water has traditionally been the antithesis and bane to the RussianHe neither trusts, likes or wishes to confront such a liquid in any shape or form
>>65516136>>65516143For all its flaws, I liked Project Snowblind. It kinda reminded me of Psi: The Mindgate Conspiracy, which is another semi-gem.
>>65516275a janny being one of them
>>65515807What about chechens and other churkas though?
>>65516970We're going to need a lot of bags of cement today
>>65516143honestly an RPG about a military cyborg navigating the byzantine factional politics of a cyberpunk dystopia sounds pretty kino to me
>>65517060amazing how before budanov saying that ukraine needs 30k per month ukraine was killing at around 30k https://kyivindependent.com/budanov-says-ukraine-must-mobilize-at-least-30-000-people-per-month-warns-that-war-wont-end-soon/and after budanov said this ukraine suddenly started killing even more!its almost as if...someone is lying
>>65515466>"Show Luhansk" is back on the menu boysYEARS of progress, gone in an instant, like cocks in the ass
>>65517138In that case you have nothing to worry about! Since Ukraine is lying about killing Russians, your invasion force will surely overrun them in just two more weeks!Funny how vatnik brains work, remember them saying the same shit in 2022? Here they are almost 5 years later, seemingly unable to question why Russia has somehow not managed any progress in all that time against the lying Ukranians.
>>65517138Go back to /pol/ clueless Troglodyte
>>65515781>a couple more yearsgive it half a year and one or two mobilizations that were ambitious enough to scare the shit out of every remaining male in the urban areas.Dont forget that monke already turned over a million of his most lobotomized patriots into meat pallets, most of the remaining ones are of the less suicidal variety
>>65517144>Dont forget that monke already turned over a million of his most lobotomized patriots into meat pallets, most of the remaining ones are of the less suicidal varietyGenuinely underrated point about the war right there Anon, the first massive wave was mostly the Russian prison population, and kidnapped ethnic groups from the far east regions, the more time goes on, the more the Russian army begins to cannibalise the nations work force, over 1 million educated Russians are estimated to have fled the country upon the beginning of the war in 2022 just to begin with.
>>65517155And because the current system is electronic the moment you receive it you're flagged and will find it very difficult to leave, so there's been a notable uptick in people going to Turkey/Georgia/Armenia now before the hammer comes down. That rate might have increased after a Russian official formally denied impending mobilisation because they know when the eyebrow is raised.
>>65516383Wouldn't you like to know, Ivan
>>65516431Is this the drone swarm I've been hearing about?
>>65516866>Do you know any dictator that said that he was wrong and backed out without being ousted?If only there were some system by which a population could remove a leader who turned retard.Oh well, I guess this is a level of social technology that Russia will never grasp.
>>65516912I promise you whoever is compiling these reports is getting shit on daily by his command, being given 2 hours to do 6 worth of work and being asked to quantify the unquantifiable every day. The drone footage probably 20% of his day, because it is so easy. The rest is gonna be staring at maps, reading reports from illiterate gun commanders and then staring at fuzzy low rez pictures.
>>65516808he is just seething drones are, indeed, as deadly as they seem right now and countering old-school methods hard. Popularity always breeds contrarians
>>65516535cia and kgb ain't in any dimension comparable
>>65512595>removing it will now force them to frontally assault north from KostyantynivkaThere's a request from Sternenko for drone funds, like every day but this time the request was:>There are more requests from Kostyantynivka, where nothing is happening.>There were several more appeals yesterday.
>>65517171Command shits on everyone daily, its what it does. Wear a helmet!>>65517138Its almost if you can't remember 2 years ago when Ukraine was stacking 2000+ a day when the Russian's moved on the Avdiivka front or the fun times in Bakhmut when Russia lost 100's a day trying to occupy a garbage dump and the 100's of them filling up tank trench traps south of Lyman just very recently.1900+ is a large amount for a day compared to what it usually is around the 1200-1400 mark, so something get fucked up
>>65515742nah. he was a complete butcher and gopnik. he was just most well known on social media which gave him popularity. Popov was up there and when he called for ending the bullshit lying chain, to get adequate information, he was rewarded with prison for that
>>65516535Bush snr. was one of the best presidents America ever had. He had the bad luck to run up against Clinton, who was a generationally talented politician and campaigner.
>>65516294monkes gangster honor demands he never admit defeat in anything. he will just keep adding more fuel to the fire and only realistic way of stopping him is with death
>>65517197he certainly had a realistic understanding of the worlds beyond the oceans. breaking tyrants teeth while leaving them in charge to keep sectarian violence under control is one way to handle these kind of gangster kings
>>65516780artillery also uses drones as spotters and fire correction you moron. Any kill they get is also on video
>>65516980does the armchair faggot still shill for russia?
>>65516294If putler surrenders he falls off a window
>>65516438>The casket in question
>>65517187ah yes aviidka the time were ukraine claimed to have shot down 6 a50 15 su 30s the moonyes fun times
>>65517251>2026>zigger shills think we forgot about the literal hundreds of armored vehicles and tens of thousands of mobiks they lost before even reaching the town limits of Avdiivka
>>65517318>But the phrase from the brigade commander "you will all die and it will be good" does not motivateBlyat look at this coward trying to bring down morale, true comrades will die gloriously for puccia
>>65517251>extremely cunty passive aggressive response >mostly from overconsumption of American media targeted to girls>compounded by lack of father figureWow, a real thirdie, right here on my American board
>>65513644The reason they don't use them is because they don't have them lol
>>65513456It was a good joke, but didn't account for the fact that Ukraine War threads attract the most mouthbreathing tourists imaginable.
>>65517250How recent was this?
>>65517706It’s from 2023.
>>65517181>h-he's just seethingno, all the people getting mad at the fact that arty is still doing most of the heavy lifting are mad lol.
>>65517588>It was a good joke, but didn't account for the fact that Ukraine War threads attract the most mouthbreathing tourists imaginable.I only just got it now and that's because I'm a little tipsy and stoned.At the time, I thought it was a thirdy being incoherant or a troll pretending to be a thirdy being incoherant.It hadn't occurred to me to look for a joke in there. I get it now but it's pretty subtly and I don't think you could pull it off in any 4chan thread because anyone who's been here a while is hyper-vigilant about trolls, shills and feds.