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Rare look at the rear sight of the 656. Luckiest man on arfcom owns this thing.

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Ok I'm done for now. I'll post a pic of the FSB as well later. Forgot this is early enough for teardrop. And no deflector but there's no way I'm getting that short of shaving a charging handle (sub $100 vs like $400-600 with labor). I'll throw it on the "later" pile.

>>65515573
Currently out of stock on their website but, BCM https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-standard-20-government-profile-upper-receiver-group/

>>65515714
Actually this might be better. https://www.ballisticadvantage.com/20-5-56-rifle-length-ar15-modern-complete-upper.html

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>>65515726
That looks better; hard to say. I think I might buy piece by piece, though. Trying my best to find a barrel with fitted FSB at a decent price; that seems to be about $200-250. Barrel on its own is cheap but then I need to install a FSB (~$20) and barrel nut (~$15) anyways. Looks like I might be able to get upper and populated barrel for about $300 plus shipping, then a bolt that redirects gas for a bit over $150, a charging handle for probably $15-25 plus ship, FA I may have or again it's cheap, and the door I should have. Brings it to about $500-600 all in? Just need to be aware of M4 vs not M4 feed when ordering. I'll probably need to go with an M4 feed barrel just because of my upper and reused lower.

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>>65515726
I should mention I have most of the tools as well. Rolled a nat 20 and found a magpul AR wrench for $15 LNIB lol. Did the same on a torque wrench for even cheaper, also decent quality. That cost, aside from one tool I'll need, is pretty much zero.

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>>65515573
>>65515573 (OP)
>>65515573 (OP)
Help me out killers, have been playing full spectrum worrir ten hammers I do save spamming but in real life how do i cross a place like this when there could be enemies on ether side? how do i cross?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRE543VQzQc [Embed] gameplay video

It was touted as a game sim made to train the military apprently it was rejected but man this game is fun

Sorry had to repost cos forgot to post picture

Picture related

>>65516158
also you guys are awesome thank you very much for all your service and servuxes

>>65516158
Grenades

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>>65516158
>indoors and the shooting has already started
Throw a hand grenade down each hallway. Then throw a hand grenade down each hallway again.

>in the open and the shooting has stared
maneuver left or right and perform an LDA crossing following the TTP of your choice

>indoors but i'm trying to be a sneaky commando
Throw a hand grenade down each hallway and start the shooting

>indoors but i'm a cop and the mayor gets mad if i'm throwing hand grenades
Two lines up to the crossing, left side covering right and right side covering left. At the crossing, both lines move into the their hallways (left into left etc.) at the same time

>inb4 but won't that expose a bunch of guys to fire?
Yeah, but you'll be putting more guns into the hallways than they will. If it doesn't work out, don't worry.,the mayor will put your name on the city's memorial plaque.

Something something speed and violence of action.

>>65516158
>>65516353
>>65516189
>>65516158
sorry that was a t junction outside not indoors

I deal with a lot of antique restoration of 'non-provenance' related stuff. Which is to say I am decent with abrasive cleaning to restore functionality or mirror polish an old rusted $30 belt buckle, etc. I have always wanted to learn how to polish up parts of a gun, pistol specifically, to make it feel nicer. Is it literally just going over the parts to like 3000 grit + autosol/etc or even 15k micro mesh until it is super smooth? Or are polish/trigger/etc jobs really more like subtle dimensional changes, like slightly sanding down a part so it is more flat, or deepening part of a curve?
>Are there any good sources for learning how to do any of this? Anything from feed ramps to triggers even something to make some mag releases smoother would be appreciated. Thanks!

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the fuck happened to the watch thread on /g/? anyways, you guys are obsessed with casio F91W-1's, maybe you can help me out. i found this in the junk bin at an antique store, this is definitely fake, right?

Wait, so are all camo patterns gonna go useless and extinct from you know the look given IR cameras and the "transparency" of war?

>>65522361
camo hasnt really been about "hiding" for most of the army in a long ass time, its more of a "hey im team a/b" sorta thing really.

>>65516158
I bought that game, pretty disappointing, needed a bigger budget. Can't remember the tactics, just use your first man as disposable

>>65522323
Probably fake, writing isn't laid out well and the hong kong sticker doesn't help

>>65522502
yeah. still, had to buy it because its so goofy. the inside is a module ive never seen (not that ive seen many). just needs a new battery and ill see what it can do. i think its got zero functions lol

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Why is this rifle so inexpensive? Is it trash?

>>65523261
>Bear Creek Arsenal
yeah, just get a PSA

Why did crye make
>multicam
(for transitional environments)

>multicam tropic
(for jungles and swamps)

>multicam arid
(For the desert)

>multicam black
(For indoor urban environments)

>never made a woodland pattern for the woods in the m81 pallet.

>>65523274
They don't have 458 socom

Why do people pay for "carbine classes" when all they do is magdump into targets from a few yards away?

>>65515573
Somewhat related to OP's question
Does anyone have an idea where to get a pencil profile barrel that DOES NOT have the M4 extension and has the rifle extension instead?
It's for an A1 parts kit build.
I am not picky about the twist rate.
I tried ordering from Green Mountain's website, but it was acting up for me, or else I would just go with that.

>>65524469
Are you aware the M4 extension is functionally just fine in a pre-M4 upper? The only bad combination is M4 upper receiver with pre-M4 barrel extension.
At first I assumed you knew it didn't matter, and were just compelled by clone autism to get it right. But then when you said "not picky about the twist rate", it made me wonder.

(as far as where to get one, sorry, I have no useful answer)

>>65523558
Because most Americans are terrible with money

>>65522849
I kind of like it in it's own terrible way. Buttons have to work though, I've got a real thing against fake buttons, dials etc. phony ya know

>>65523295
The only people still shooting .458 SOCOM are unironically white trash that spend their food money on gun stuff and their food stamps on food. That goes for 50 Beowulf too. Big bullet makes the retard brain light up even if it's impractical and overpriced. That's why BCA is cheap. It's marketed towards trailer trash.

How simple is it to swap what caliber a bolt action is chambered in for something like a Bergara B14? Could I just buy one and swap the barrels or some shit to swap between .308/6.5 cm?

>>65524764
>Are you aware the M4 extension is functionally just fine in a pre-M4 upper?
I didn't know that. I thought that you couldn't mix M4 and standard together, period.
>But then when you said "not picky about the twist rate", it made me wonder.
I mostly shoot 55 grain, so 1:12 works for me.
It would be nice to have the option to use 62 grain, but it's not a big deal to me either way.
>clone autism
I want to get it right, but close enough is good enough for me.
Retro stuff is a niche, so I may have to make do with what's available.
>(as far as where to get one, sorry, I have no useful answer)
I'll try again with Green Mountain. I might have to be old fashioned and call them.

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>>65523281
they did

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>>65515573
>look again
>literally cheaper to buy a full 20" upper than to buy a 20" barrel w/ FSB alone
>also comes with FSB front sight, front sight spring, front sight detent, front sight sling swivel, barrel nut/delta ring assembly, and handguards unlike TNTE (despite delta ring being wrong model for my use, it's free)
>convenient source of the port door and FA (wrong FA and port door needs a dip) as well
I mean I guess that works, but...

Should I be concerned about overgassing on a 16" AR that's usually suppressed? I haven't noticed any issues aside from excess gas near my face but some people make a big deal out the gas pressure and I also don't want to wear parts out prematurely. The gas block is fixed and the suppressor is lower backpressure but not flow-though. I'll take it out this weekend and actually pay attention to where the brass lands.
I don't want to cause problems running without the can by changing the gas tube, so should I get an adjustable BCG or do I even need to worry?

>>65529337
No. To be fair replacing whatever wears out will be cheaper than the gasblock and time/ammo spent supposedly optimizing and timing it.

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>>65525756
There’s actual thought behind 50 Beowulf (massive kinetic energy dump under 200 yards). The Futureweapons video from a few years ago shows it shredding a car from engine block to trunk. I like it.

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I'm hoping I already know the answer to this, but hence the thread I wanna ask anyway. So I was in the process of moving last month, I had about 2500 rounds of 9mm/5.56 in factory packaging, in their cardboard shipping boxes in my storage closet. I asked my dad to store the ammo at his place until I could get my new gun closet prepped. Him not really knowing much about ammo, stored all of it in his open-end garage for a month straight here in AL. So basically the ammo was inside its unsealed packaging, inside of cardboard shipping boxes, in 98% humidity for about 3-4 weeks.

Should I be concerned about corrosion or any issues? All ammo is brass and the boxes were never exposed to rain or anything, just the butthole of the south's heat and humidity for about a month.

Im looking to buy babys very first handgun. American. Primary usecases would be self defense in the outdoors and general practice with a handgun. My first thought was just to get a 9mm glock. Is this stupid? This would not be a bear gun (im too untrained to effectively defend against a bear with a pistol)

>>65531406
Glock is Glock. You'll get more or less exactly what you expect. Nothing wrong with a Glock and they have plenty of upgrade options.
From me, if it's just going to stay stock, I currently lean more to CZ P-10s, as they feel in every way like a Glock 19 that's been just a little bit refined while not being more expensive (in my case cheaper than a Glock 19). Fewer aftermarket accessories and it has its own mags, but if you don't care about blinging out your gun it works good.

>>65531406
I second the CZ P-10. I would get the C (Glock 19 size). It's cheaper than Glock and just as good if not marginally better.

>>65529337
I would change out the buffer system for an A5 if running suppressed. Your gun will be fine without it but it really slows down parts wear and makes shooting suppressed even more pleasant. I use an A5H2 on my 14.5 and an A5H3 on my 10.5.

>>65531406
>a 9mm glock. Is this stupid?
Certainly not stupid, and the 9mm part is really just correct.
I would encourage you to go handle and preferably shoot several different pistols before you decide. Different hands and different handguns are shaped different, so the only way to know what gun fits your hand best is to try them. But for all factors other than physical fit, Glock is a very reasonable pick.
>This would not be a bear gun (im too untrained to effectively defend against a bear with a pistol)
That's an odd thing to say, as opposed to something like "not a bear gun (I don't live in bear country)". If a bear attacks you, I would strongly suggest you shoot at it regardless of your training level.
Anyway, it doesn't matter. With the right ammo, 9mm is a great choice for black bears, and ok for browns. And even if you did want more gun, you still ought to have a cheap-to-shoot (i.e. .22 or 9mm) gun as well, so best advice is to get the 9mm first.

>>65515573
>1:12 is better for 55gr
There is nothing better about slow twists. Over-stabilization is a fudd meme propagated by dumb shits who don't understand stability in air is different than stability in flesh.

how important is kinetic energy for handgun rounds with regard to stopping power?

>>65531547
Idk why I wrote that or where I read that; I must've been tired as the next day I read that and went "what the fuck did I mean by that?" I might've seen a video where 1:12 had a mildly better group for 55gr or something. I ended up going 1:7, "muh clone correctness" be damned because while I want it to look the part, it's getting whatever makes it function and shoot the best. It'll probably wear A2 furniture for this year since I just picked up a real beater set of A2 handguards. I'll also need to get an A1 lower probably next summer and find an upper without deflector once I find someone to modify an upper for me. I don't intend to neglect it but it's going to actually get some use in the woods and not just sit there looking nice collecting dust.

>>65531368
It's fine.

Well just how gay is the OP, on average?

>>65531406
Fwiw I shot a Glock exactly one time. I shot surprisingly well with it not being a great handgun shot. Not even my preferred handgun type at all, either.

>>65531554
Almost completely irrelevant unless you're talking obscene revolver calibers. Shot placement is king when it comes to handguns.

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did anyone seriously adopt/use micro uzi's in any sort of serious capacity, outside of maybe the occasional bodyguard. specifically the micro ones in full auto. it seems like they were purely range toys for civillian sales only

>>65531368
Ironically keeping it loose is usually worse for corrosion in the short term than the boxes, even with the acids in the cardboard. Dissimilar metals touching in humid air around an electrolyte = galvanic fun time. The factory boxes will keep the jackets from touching the cases and primers, especially if they have spacers.
It most likely hasn't done any damage in this little time. Pull it from the shipping boxes, check for moisture or softened boxes. Throw it all in ammo boxes with some dehumidifier packets. Pull and swap the packet in a month, spot-check for corrosion. If any of the original boxes are degraded, put them in with other rounds from the same lot so you can track any issues with it and use the loose stuff first. Light discoloration on the surface isn't a problem, crusties might be.
>t. PNW-fag who's kept several thousand rounds in cardboard in a garage for almost a year without serious issues

>>65531554
It matters, but less than most would think.

Old school advice is to carry at least 380 ACP, or try to shoot for the head/neck if using something weaker due to lower penetration/expansion. Magnum calibers like 357 or 44 are nice to have if you anticipate problems that walk on more than 2 legs, but you also need adequate barrel length to send them and you probably want adequate grip size to not injure yourself in the process too.

Realistically any gun is better than none, but 9mm is the standard and you are probably making sacrifices that aren't worth it if you go up. You should only go down if you want to carry a REALLY small gun.
>>65531406
Glock is fine if you primarily want to stick to well traveled paths. I recommend trying a variety of pistols to see how they actually feel in your hands, shooting the top 5 and buying the winner. If Glock is it then great. If you end up with a CZ, Beretta, H&K or Ruger then it isn't really any worse.

What matters is that the gun you buy fits your hands/budget/preferences and shoots well for you. Not someone else.
>>65531368
That's not an ideal storage method but open the boxes and see. If the brass turned all green or black (which is unlikely in 3 months) then that's bad. Shoot some and see if they aren't cycling like they did before, there are hangfires, duds or really inconsistent recoil. Pay close attention for squibs.

Also different brands and types of ammunition can have different degrees of protection from moisture than others due to primer/bullet sealant or packaging. Check the worst first. If that's fine the rest are probably OK. 22LR tends to go to shit way before anything else so start there.
>>65525849
It requires using a giant armorer's block and wrench to screw the receiver off the barrel. When the new one is installed it also needs to be headspaced. This is not something you are going to want to do more than once and even then it's universally better (often also cheaper) to just get a second rifle.

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Anyone know what speedloader the German cop is carrying and how he's carrying it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYZsV7fDg-k&t=330s

pic tangentially related

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Can anyone tell me what revolver this is? Never seen one where the cylinder springs up like that.

>>65536306
>>65537799
>>65532263
Thanks anons. Bottom of the 1000r box was a little soft, but not wet. Inside boxes look good and the rounds are clean. I was probably just paranoid, but wanted to be sure.

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Anyone know when we might see the Zumwalts with the CPS tubes? I know this class of ship failed spectacularly but I really like them.

>>65538070
Holy newfag noguns
Try reverse image search

>>65538070
Looks like some model of Chiappa revolver.

>>65538070
>>65538811
Mateba 2006M
>>65523261
Yes, BCA tries to undercut PSA which requires some really questionable parts sourcing and undercutting for every penny. It's not the worst of the worst but it's pretty bad.
>>65523295
If you really want to chance it the rifle is cheap enough to fuck around with, but that realistically only adds to the probability of the rifle not working right.
>>65522323
I don't know who fakes a Casio but apparently somebody did. That thing is about as genuine as a 4 dollar bill.

>>65538942
>Mateba 2006M
Thanks anon

How can I weaponize my fat wife's panties?

>>65522387
If that was the case we would go back to blue, red, and gray. Camouflage is about avoiding being seen. Uniformity of camouflage can help with identifying friend and foe.

>only ever open carried
>going to buy a CCW
>made a cardboard cutout of it to see how it would be to appendix carry
This sucked. Any recommendation for some good fanny pack so I can carry without pointing the gun at my dick and be uncomfortable while sitting?

>>65538942
There are modern Casio fakes as well of almost all models. Press the right button that switches from 12 to 24hr and hold. Real should display "CASIo". That doesn't mean fakes can't fake that as well but it's one more step that earlier fakes didn't know about or bother to implement.

>>65540109
I like a 3-4:30 OC and CC. I'm not fat; I just have a tendency to crush my nuts, etc. and hate having it pointed at my arteries and nuts. I'm not too many years into carrying, though, so my preferences may one day change if I find a gun or holster or belt that changes my mind.

Test

>>65540109
I EDC a G19 AIWB. Sometimes carry a G21 with TLR the same way on the weekends or when it's cooler out. Good holster is important. Holster wedges or pillows are pretty great too if it's still bugging you or you spend a lot of time seated.

>>65540109
Appendix carry is gay regardless of how you do it.
Just carry between 2-4 o'clock and call it a day.

I finally bought my first AR-15. It did not come with iron sights. Do I need to buy iron sights or is an Aimpoint PRO sufficient?

>>65542197
Do you want iron sights? If yes, buy some. If no, dont buy some. BUIS is larp

>>65542197
Buy some irons. They're cheap and there's no downside to them.

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>>65542197
the Aimpoint PRO is sufficient, but there's also no downside to getting irons.

>>65542580
Shut up. I have an A2 front sight and me being too poor to update my AR isn't enough justification for it being there, hence the rear BUIS.

>>65542197
Does it have a front sight block or is it a more modern freefloat handguard rifle with no irons? IIRC that affects which irons you'd need due to height differences. Carry handle has its own FSB height and flat tops have the F height front sight block. Freefloat with no front sight obviously comes as a pair so no height worries other than preference or dot height concerns.

Also I'd say irons are nice but I rarely use them. If you're going to hunt or compete or something with it (or depend on this rifle), consider putting BUIS on it. They weigh practically nothing anyways. Just get ones that actually hold zero and more importantly: ACTUALLY ZERO YOUR BUIS.

>>65542197
get a buis

people that dont are NGMI.

>>65545012
>Carry handle has its own FSB height and flat tops have the F height front sight block.
The difference is irrelevant for anything except clone autism.

>>65547029
The sight picture just doesnt look right when zeroed, the front blade is too high
I admit that is kind of an autistic complaint

>>65545025
Unless you have an acog

>>65543209
>plastic buis
>technically bups
NGMI

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Just got my voter pamphlet for Idaho and found that it has something worth thinking about, even if just a little. Which gun would you guys vote for as Idaho's State Gun? Personally I'm leaning toward voting for the Winchester Model 1894, with the reasoning being that we've got a very outdoors and hunting focused culture. Also, are any other states working on electing a State Gun this year?

>>65547039
I guess I've only ever done it the other way because I'm a carry-handle enjoyer so the post just sits a tiny bit low and it looks fine.

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How's this combination?

>>65548960
Sig product so it's cheap and barely functional.

>>65549155
Perfect for airsoft then!

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Is this ERDL or Woodland? And does anyone know if the belt kit is based on something real or if its just made up. Really love this look

>>65515573
Does anyone know a site with fast shipping that has Yugo SKS stripper clips (or at the least compatible non Yugo clips) in stock? My buddies want to shoot my SKS M59/66 this weekend and I don’t want to have to hand load it

>>65551338
For a situation like that you should paroose a few LGS and check if they have any. Usually there will be a box in the corner somewhere with odds and ends. Shipping from anywhere is just going to take too long.
>>65542197
You should because shit happens. Optics break or get knocked out of zero. A set of Magpuls doesn't cost much but it's nice to have if you're innawoods for a weekend and a screw for your mount goes Free Willie on you. Then you can just take the optic off and shoot with irons for the rest of the trip.

>excuse me, good proprietor, but I would like to measure the width of your SKS stripper clips to determine if they are compatible with my friend's SKS

>>65551391
That was my first thought, but I don’t think I’m likely to find them at my LGS. Of the two that aren’t absurdly far away, one is a zoomer hypebeast store and they don’t stock anything made before 1991 and the other closes right when I get off of work.

Does the 10/22 Carbon come with a weaver or a picatinny rail? I'm almost positive it's a weaver, but I've read a couple of things that says it comes with a picatinny.

>>65547107
Yeah, out of those, the one that most says Utah to me is the 1894.

>>65552356
It looks like a Picaatinny. PSA says it is and Ruger lists it as such on the target-oriented models. It definitely isn't the same as mine with the weaver base.

>>65552388
Thanks

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>>65515573
Noguns here, Why do modern guns like the AR15 still not have a more true in line with the barrel stock without the "boot" of the stock? If it exists what are they called?

>>65549751
its ERDL. the webbing is kinda weird. its a M-1956 harness with an M2 medic pouch on either hip, with some kind of SMG pouch under them. Im not going to call it fictional because low slung pouches weren't unheard of at the time (bong SAS were known for their custom low FAL pouches) and japs tend to be pretty meticulous about this kinda thing, but its def nothing standard. contemporary grease gun pouches were either in triple mag form, or the doubles had only one large flap rather than one for each mag.

>>65552989
Im not sure what you mean, AR buffer tubes are right in line with the barrel.

>>65552989
They have to make the stock and sights unreasonably high if the barrel is going to be all the way down in the pocket of your shoulder, or you have to scrunch your head way down which isn't feasible for extended periods.

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>>65553005
Compare with the TRW low maintenance rifle prototype I posted.

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>>65549751
Look up "green dominant ERDL". I think people also call it lowland. Closest you'll get.

>>65552989
It looks ugly

>>65553675
A1 20 inch Barrels are the only nonfugly guns in the AR15 family of rifles.

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>>65531547
Has anyone fired pic related out of 1:7 with a 5.55 or Wylde chamber to test?

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>>65553027
you put this part against your shoulder

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Not a question, but this video randomly appeared on my feed on YouTube. I think /k/ might like it.
>Process of Making High-quality 9mm Ammo Bullets | Mass Production Process in Local Factory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTQb6KsE5PI

>>65557472
I know this is the least helpful reply but I've shot 55gr hornady vmax out of a wylde 1:7 16" and it shot pretty tight groups out to 100. Or what I'd consider tight groups. Never bought Winchester 55gr hunting ammo though. If it's what I assume it is which is a close clone of the 55gr vmax, it should shoot pretty good.

>>65558172
Jesus christ that has to be slow burning powder, right? Or black powder?

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>>65540109
Not sure what model pistol you plan on CC'ing but these clipdraw things are really nice. I like mine at the 3:00 to 4:00 position. My carry piece has a safety so just make sure to practice flicking off the safety as part of your draw and you're golden.

>>65557472
I shot some Fiocchi 40gr Vmax out of a 1:7 and had it keyhole before I figured out what the problem was. Would probably end up doing the same. Super lightweight projectiles like that are usually meant for bolt actions with 1:12 twist.
>>65553027
It is in line. The AR-15 just has a gas system riding on top of the barrel. LMR had it on the side allowing for the effect you are talking about to be more visible.
>>65551745
Did you ever find those clips in the end?

>>65560814
Nah I ended up hand loading it. Will buy some online

>>65560815
Bummer, hopefully there are more gun shops around you that have odds and ends but if there aren't any then there aren't any. I'm lucky I got a few good ones around me.

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Are there any polymer alternatives to this Hogue AR grip? I like the shape, but heard the rubber becomes permanently tacky upon contact with oil.

>>65551338
Am I retarded or are Yugo SKSs not compatible with other countries SKS clips? My Chinese has been fine with whatever I threw at it.

>>65560814
First replyer to that anon; almost bought some super light 40ish gr 223 once, guess I'm glad I didn't. And repeating myself here, but the 55gr was fine. Wonder where the line is.

>>65561600
I've had that fucker almost 10 years. Nothing happened to it so far but I don't use any crazy oils, just automotive grade mineral oil which I try to keep off it as oil on rubber sucks to clean. Came with a used AR so IDK how much older the grip or rifle are past me buying it. It's been with me for quite a few miles of hiking around hunting. Very very comfy grip.

>>65521692
there's a lot of "it depends." if it's only surface rust it might only take light sanding to get off. if there are deep pits you start with 120 grit and work your way up. if it's really fucked up you might start by draw filing. a "polished" finish starts at around 420 grit. at around 600-1000 it's "mirror polished." above that is for fancy presentation pieces. the main thing you have to watch out for when polishing guns is to keep edges sharp. you have to keep your abrasive on a solid flat backing so you don't melt the edges. another challenge is screw and pin holes. sometimes it can be necessary to polish with sacrificial screws installed so you don't fuck up the holes but also don't mess up the real screws.

for trigger jobs there are two elements. one is the friction between sliding surfaces which is where regular polishing can help. the other element is the geometry of the mating surfaces where you have to change the angles. you have to be careful because sometimes filing a sear down to have a better angle will make it shorter which will actually make the trigger worse. if you go too far you can also accidentally make a machinegun.

>>65553004
>>65553066
Thanks anons. I see helikon makes some stuff in ERDL, that might be my best bet, getting real surplus ERDL seems pretty difficult.

/wg/ger here. Which are the top most numerous small arms and ammo producers in the world, and where are their factories?
Also, who makes the best quality small arms ammo? Lapua? Does all NATO use Lapua for their special ammo needs?

>>65562579

Thanks for the answer, that gives me more confidence in it.

Looking to buy an M1 Carbine repro, inland or auto ordnance?

What the fuck is going on with /meg/? They had three threads up simultaneously this weekend and all of them looked like schizo fights.

>>65562579
>Am I retarded or are Yugo SKSs not compatible with other countries SKS clips? My Chinese has been fine with whatever I threw at it.
I don't know if Yugos specifically have a different spec or if the mystery meat clips I've thrown at it are all out of spec but it took me half a dozen tries to find clips that fit.

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Is bereli a good place to buy guns? I've never heard of them until today but they have something I'm interested in at a good price.

Whats the best lume/glow paint for marking my shitty oem glock plastic sights?

europium powder with epoxy?

I gave up on trying

>>65564172
I've heard anons buy from there before IIRC. They pop up on gun.deals and other sites a decent amount. I'd trust them off my memory.

>>65564681
Probably. Might want to throw that powder in a matching color Dollar Tree nail polish, maybe ideally a neon color. Make it the same color day or night. Also IIRC tritium Glock sights don't cost that much (relatively), like $120 or less maybe. Gun.deals it and see before you buy pricey glow powder you'll have to reapply eventually. Resin might stick better than nail polish; tritium is way easier though. Also I know it glows long but I'd have to wonder if it would glow long enough to be useful between being exposed to light or charging with a strong blacklight flashlight. Tritium would be less of a PITA; it only halves its brightness, what, every 10 years?

https://files.catbox.moe/8452ae.mp4

So, this happened over the weekend on one of the police scanner frequencies a few counties over from me. I figured it was fake off the bat because it addressed civilians without an emergency alert tone, and there were no other notifications anywhere else about it. The police later confirmed it's a hoax as well seeking info on who did it.
But I'm not well versed on tactical comms or anything like that, if there was an actual surface breach by an unknown submarine off the coast of the US, that was seen as a threat, would it be addressed with an emergency alert telling people to shelter like this?

>>65563970
I assume they do because every single other Yugo gun is built to a different proprietary spec for some reason. The M48 is incompatible with KAR98K parts and the M70 is incompatible with with the rest of the AK ecosystem

T. Guy who asked the question about stripper clips originally

>>65566170
Submarines don't surface to launch missiles in 2001+25. And how would it be reported? Why would you take shelter, they're not going to shell the coastline like it's 1942 they're going to launch nuclear weapons at designated targets. Don't be retarded.

Why is there no 4.6 equivalent to the FN five seven?

whats the best brands for CR123A batteries?

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>>65569740
planned but didnt make it to mass production

what are the chances we will be able to get Taliban parts kits from pakistan or afghan if we normalize relations or ukraine war kits in the future?

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I'm planning to buy a .357 Magnum but ONLY ever fire .38 Spl from it. Unfortunately, gun stores in my area always put the two ammo types right next to each other on the shelf, making it nigh inevitable that some .357s will make their way into the cylinder. How can I prevent this?
t. absent-minded professor

>>65571293
Kys retard

>>65571295
But I can't do that if I accidentally load the wrong ammo! Help me out here!

>>65571293
Shoot a whole bunch of .38 and don't clean the crud rings out of the chambers?
If you really wanna get tarded about it, you can try to find some gunsmith willing to take your money and make spacer rings and silver-solder one into the bottom of each chamber.

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>>65564172
I bought my M9-A2 from them for $379 and despite some complaining about slow shipping complainers, it was at my FFL in 3 days.

>>65563555
yeah that's what it is, I go there sometimes to impart my vast knowledge of reasons not to join the navy but it's just a few guys fighting

>>65571293
Just look at the boxes before you buy them? Duh?
If you get some 357 in the mix that's perfectly fine. The revolver is rated to shoot it. Not like that's even a problem on the new production Pythons. The old ones would only have issues with high round counts of full power 357.
>>65569850
Taliban parts kits probably not, Ukraine maybe. There's already precedent for ATF approving sanctioned Chinese guns (Tokarevs, Mosins and SKS) from Albania because they know for sure that deal doesn't benefit China at all. Border between Pakistan and Afghanistan is very murky so it could create a cash for goods pipeline supporting the Taliban who we are still not on good terms with.
>>65569740
There was but it never made it's way to full production.
>>65563403
I hate to say it but neither. I see USGI carbines hovering close enough to their prices that you might as well just stick with that. They have a secondary value in that they are genuine milsurp and the barrels tend to be in good condition (all original 30 carbine ammunition was non corrosive). The only reason to get an M1 carbine is for pure cool factor, and repros aren't as cool.

came out to my parents as a 380 shooter

can you break a gunstock over somebody's head if you hit them with it hard enough

>>65542197
It depends who you ask. The fat retard and his tranny army on inrange say no.

>>65571701
Support group is down the hall and to the left. The margaritas are fabulous too. Don't miss it.
>>65571815
This needs to be qualified because there are a lot of different gun sticks of varying design, quality and condition. For the most part because they need to withstand the force of recoil they are tough enough that the subject's head will break before the stock does, however if it's a particularly flimsy stock or really worn out it could shatter. I've seen stocks crumble from just being handled because they were stored poorly.

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In the state of Georgia does black powder mean muzzle loaders exclusively or are breach loading metallic cartridges fine too?

>>65572137
for deer hunting just to clarify.
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>>65572137
>>65572138
Muzzle loaders only.
Minimum caliber requirement is for deer and black bear is .44
But you don't have to use a 1776-spec Pennsylvania flintlock firing solid lead round balls.
Modern inline muzzle loaders with scopes 'n' sheit are allowed.
Modern projectiles and pelletized powders are allowed.

>>65571815
It depends on how you hit them and where, and whether or not the rest of the gun is actually in the stock. Guns are great at absorbing recoil because the fibers run up and down the stock. Some guns have thin wrists or other issues and a really hard whack can crack them. Cheap wood like pine splits easily if you hit it wrong and the action can even work as a wedge to blow open the stock. Usually there's a bolt and/or a tang holding them together, but I've also seen a couple cheap guns snap in half when someone tripped while carrying them and dropped them on a rock or they got snagged and yanked by the sling.
The best chance for it to happen would be a hard sideways hit with the wrist of the gun across the back of the head while holding the barrel, instead of trying to mortar the butt into someone's skull like a sane-ish person.

>>65571815
Depends on material heavily. Glass reinforced nylon? Urethane foam filled fiberglass shell? Urethane foam filled plastic shell (M16 A1/A2)? Wood? Kind of wood? Grain orientation, tightness, density? Design of that specific stock? Break action single shot shotguns often have weak ass connections, made worse by wear and oil. Direction it's being used to hit with? Butt first, unlikely. But IIRC some soldiers did smash stocks bottom corner of the butt first, swinging by the muzzle (bottom of gun to ground) to break the stock at the wrist to make them theorerically useless if captured or re-discovered by the side that lost them. I'm assuming you're either writing or way overthinking a self defense scenario?

With the nfa being effectively dead, anyone know if there's any problems printing a can out of translucent filaments (pla+) other than durability?
I think it would be kind of neat to do a translucent can.

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>>65571293
I usually stuff this in when I shoot my revolvers, it helps with recoil management. It also helps with my IBS and keeps all the shit in so I don't go spraying everywhere.

writing a story currently. if there was a guy who was too pissed to die and he had some kind of melee weapon that he used basically nonstop for ten thousand years, is there literally any weapon in existence currently, makeshift or otherwise, that would survive being used for that long? it doesn't have to be in "good" condition after all of that time, it just has to still be usable

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>>65578657
I recommend the 'mere', which is a short club made from jade used by the Maori. Jade as a material fits the bill for what you want.

>hard and impact resistant
>used for thousands of years around the world
>doesn't rot or degrade
>millennium old jade artifacts have been dug up that look almost as good as new

Not bomb-proof, but if your guy started with a really thick club, he could probably split skulls for years, if not decades. As a weapon, the mere has provenience for being used by multiple generations to bonk with and has a lot of folklore that might be interesting for your story. Some highlights from the wiki page:

>mere pounamu as the weapon of a chief or rangatira, was the most revered of all Māori weapons
>these mere were passed through generations; they were given names, and were said to possess a spiritual quality or mana of their own
>Considerable efforts were undertaken, often by an entire tribe, to recover or regain significant mere that were lost or stolen
>Mere were buried with their chiefly owners, but were considered so valuable that they were later recovered from the grave during the second burial
>It was considered an honour to be killed by a specially significant mere pounamu
>Captives would sometimes volunteer their own mere pounamu as their means of execution rather than be killed by a lesser weapon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere_(weapon)

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If I buy a suppressor for my 1022 Ruger, will it also work on my threaded barrel mark IV?

Pic unrelated

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Help me out here gunfags, what bolt assembly is this?
https://x.com/nikgeneburn/status/2109870061687325002

>>65583277
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I want to suck and fuck those titties
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>>65515573
i want a tikka tx3 upr in FL. i have had two "licensed dealers" tell me that they won't order any variant they don't stock, even though i literally will buy it from them. what am i doing wrong?

>>65584637
Is there an FFL on this map near you? My local area had a couple marked.
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=772301#
You also might want to look into home FFLs that work with internet orders. Go on google maps and search after zooming in on your town for "FFL". I've found a couple that way. Another way that should be even better is just by going through the process of ordering something on PSA and not actually ordering it. Just get to the part that asks to select an FFL, put in your zipcode, and scroll the list. Even the smallest FFLs have current info on file or were used on file recently enough to still show. Then find wherever that model of Tikka is cheapest on gun.deals, give whatever reasonably priced home FFL(s) you find a call, and order and have one of them send whatever site it is their info with your order number. Usually you have to order, you get an order number, and the website provides a support or FFL specific email, fax number, or phone number for your FFL to send their info and your order number to.

>>65515573
Is Ruger going out of business? They wiped out revolvers, most of their handguns and rifles from their catalog.

>>65583320
Looks like something that is blowback. There's no locking surface and the overhang forward of the bolt face is to add mass. Not sure what it is exactly but think of some blowback operated SMGs/PCCs with square looking receivers and you'll probably get close.
>>65584637
They sound like retards. Try a different dealer. General SOP for special orders is for the customer to pay for the gun when it's ordered, rather than when it's delivered. The only reason I can think why they wouldn't order something they wouldn't normally stock is because they're afraid you'll back out and leave them stuck with a gun they don't want and can't sell.
Either way if you buy it yourself and just have it sent to their shop for transfer none of that is their problem. If they still refuse to transfer a gun because it's not one they normally stock then they are total retards and should be avoided like the plague.
>>65585598
They narrowed their offerings to guns that
1) sell well
2) cost little to make
3) share tooling with other guns in categories 1/2

The entire gun market is in a deep slump with high saturation and skinflint buyers. Lots of perfectly fine used guns are still in circulation and people are getting squeezed for things they need every day. It's hard to justify another fancy revolver when gas is $4-5+ per gallon.
Doesn't help that Beretta is still trying to force a hostile takeover just to burn Ruger to the ground and salt the earth.
>>65576527
Heat management. Suppressors get hot as fuck, which is a big reason why a lot of them are made of titanium.

If it costs nothing to make and you live in a state where you are free to do so you might as well fuck around and print a few anyway just to see how long it would last. Just don't expect perfection and maybe print it around a metal thread protector so that it doesn't gum up the threading on the barrel if it does melt.

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so wtf are these. i refuse to believe that kimmyboy hasnt witnessed/test fired these himself, or that he would be walking around with basically unarmed/unloaded personal protection if they were fake/didnt work. so what the fuck.

do they work? what is their capacity? why hasnt anyone else done it

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Say I want to make a break barrel gun, and i have a 12ga barrel blank
What would be the best way to attach the "underlug"
Weld, braze, silver solder, or something else?

I have a 12-gauge shotgun I could sell for $80 to a local FFL. However, I'm moving to Hawaii. I'm not sure if I should just sell it for the cash and use the money to buy a new gun there, or would it end up being cheaper to just disassemble and ship my shotgun to myself there?

What I want to avoid is selling it for $80 and then being told that it's $330 or $400 to buy a shotgun in Hawaii. If I can ship it for <$100 then I'd do that instead. But then again, I know that getting a long gun in Hawaii isn't hard; it might just be better for the convenience.

>>65586733
Why ship it separately instead of flying with it? Do you not have a lockable container? You just go to a different window at the airport to check luggage with firearms and another window at your destination to pick them up, I've done it several times.

>>65586749
Nope, I don't have a hardshell container case, just a softshell. I can order a Harbor Freight case but that's still ~$150 or I could check online classifieds for a cheap case <$50. But there's still a $200 extra checked baggage fee if I can't put everything into one suitcase. If I can just wrap it in bubble wrap and foam and stick it in a 36" long box, I could ship via USPS.

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How often are the crash-out threads on this board again, I'm drunk and the past 2 weeks have been shit

Going through a box of random parts and accessories I found I possess a new in box Magpul PRS buttstock. It is a fixed tube type so I can’t just put it on my regular AR (like if I was shooting groups or testing ammo) without changing out the buffer tube. What rifle should I build to use this?
I have a bolt action 308 and 223 I use for shooting at steel or hunting, plus my 5.56 AR. Any suggestions on a semi-auto rifle build where a big heavy fixed buttstock would be appropriate? Not interested in shooting calibers much larger than 308, so I’m thinking closer to 6mm or something.

How much gear do I actually need for baby's first competition?

>>65589554
Different competitions require different gear and levels of proficiency. At the very least you need a good pistol/rifle/shotgun that are reliable and that you can shoot well. You should be able to operate any of them without having to look at what you are doing, you should be able to unholster/shoot/move/reholster on command quickly and safely. Naturally a holster, sling, magazine pouches and a good belt are required. Hearing and eye protection as well.

The bigger barrier is being proficient. Can't buy skill off Amazon. A series of actual shooting classes, including more advanced courses that get into shooting while moving and around cover are usually recommended. You can and should practice by yourself too, but only once you know that what you are practicing is going to work. There is a real danger of leaning on bad habits and then having a hard time training to get away from them. Starting from 0 is better than thinking you have it right and getting proven wrong (usually via DQ in the first moments of a match).
>>65588490
Why not an AR-10? Doesn't hurt to have a battle rifle.
>>65586733
Double check the laws. Hawaii is pain. Shipping guns to Hawaii is horrible pain. Flying in with a gun might not be permitted. They generally require you to have a gun license of some kind before you show up with a gun. As a broad policy Hawaii doesn't recognize the 2nd Amendment at all, and you need their permission to even think about having a gun. FFL transfers there are incredibly expensive as well.

I'm hoping that has changed recently but that was my previous experience working in the industry. Sending anything there even for free was ridiculously expensive and got tied up with red tape.

What angle locking piece comes standard in a full-size AP-5?

>>65583329
Trans colors. Its a man, baby austinpowers.jpg

>>65586278
Braze or silver solder is the safe choice for a one-off.
Welding is used commercially, but I don't suppose you want to make a bunch of samples and destroy them to confirm your process is good.

>>65590807
If Kuwayama Chiyuki (Age 23 Blood Type A, enjoys sewing) is a man then I guess I'm gay.

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Why are the AA12s sights so tall? It doesnt have to get above anything, the barrel is already lower in the body, what purpose does it serve? Seems like HOB would be an issue though I guess thats less of an issue with a shotgun?

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>>65593556
it has to be that high so a human can actually use the stock.
its not height over bore its height over the stock.
its roughly the same sight height as an ar and it has to be that so humans can see the sightpicture.

>>65585698
Which repeating bow? Asking for a fren

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could someone provide me with a list of good patch sellers

I was looking on Ebay for some stuff and stumbled across these sound moderators / direction thingies. I'm looking at it and to me it looks like a case of "Buy part 1 from these guys then go next door to buy part 2 and tadaaa, you have a suppressor!" but surely that isn't what's happening. Can anyone shed some light on it for me?

>>65597645
Hahaha yeah the old sound moderator direction thingy, haven't seen one of those in years. They're legit.

>>65597753
Right, but is there a "part 2" that turns it into a proper can, more or less?

does anyone have a line on the MUP-1 FCU Jigs? I got some unbent inserts and no jig.

>>65597645
theres straight up silencer kits with baffle stacks undrilled on amazon.

Does anybody make a rubberized A2 grip? I find it super comfy in shape but the slick plastic is annoying.
What optic to mount to a retro AR? I want something illuminated but I don't have ACOG money. I can't decide between the Primary Arms GLX 2x or the SLX 3/5x optics. 5x might be too much magnification and the eye box/relief will be very unforgiving, but with a 20" gun I can make great use of the magnification. The 3x seems to strike a nice middle ground and the 2x would be very forgiving, but lacks magnification to take advantage of the ballistic capabilities on offer.

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Is this /k/ yet?

>>65598134
I have the 5x on my 20" and I like it.

Can minishells (1 3/4in) damage the chamber or forcing cone on a shotgun? I understand that the unfired length isn't the true length of the shell, and that shotguns are somewhat tolerant of length variance, but if the fired length doesn't clear the chamber, couldn't there be damage to it or the forcing cone as the projectile travels down the barrel? Or is that something the wad and casing prevent?
I was theorycrafting some extra long rounds about the size of a marker or highlighter (5-6in), and assumed whatever elongated monstrosity would fire them would have issues firing normal 2 3/4 rounds, then wondered why minishells don't struggle with the same thing in standard shotguns (or no one talks about it if they do.)

>>65598680
the damage is just more carbon buildup which doesnt matter unless we are talking you never clean your gun for a thousand rounds.

>>65598680
If the projectile is hard enough to harm the chamber, it's also hard enough to harm the bore, and ought to be in a sabot or shotcup. In which case, that protects the chamber as well as the bore.

>>65522323
I love the completely unshielded face screws. That's uh, that's fun.

I plan on installing a new buffer tube and Magpul QD backplate on my AR. I see a lot of conflicting information regarding what (if anything) should be applied to the buffer tube threads prior to torquing the castle nut. Should I apply grease and decrease the torque on the wrench 40~ percent to account for wet torque, or assemble it dry?

>>65601875
AFAIK nothing gets applied to the threads. Install buffer, plate, and nut. Ensure buffer is straight assuming collapsing stock install (easy to clock wrong). Torque castle nut and stake. Brownell's seems to recommend the same (as of 12+ years ago). I like using anti-sieze where I can but not knowing torque rating (or being unsure of material compatibility over time) sucks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMhMdbBP350

>>65601912

Thanks for the response. Magpul says not to apply loctite to the buffer tube threads or stake the endplate since its steel is brittler than that of standard endplates, so I really want to get the torque right.

>>65601875
>Should I apply grease
Yes.
>and decrease the torque
No.

From the manual:
>6. Lubricate threads of lower receiver (8) and lower receiver extension (36) with molybdenum disulfide grease prior to reassembly
and also
>13. Using the spanner wrench and torque wrench, torque the locking nut (32) 38 to 42 lb-in.

>>65602189

Thanks. Is this from TM 05538/10012-IN? I ask because in-lbs was corrected to ft-lbs after that version.

>>65602473
>Is this from TM 05538/10012-IN?
It is. My bad for copy-pasting without reading closer, didn't even register that it said in*lb.

Point is, the correct spec, 40ish ft*lb, already allows for lubrication.
Assembling it dry would be a bad idea, but if you did, that would be the case where you'd need to change torque to compensate.

Unironically
Would a Kel-Tec PR57 be a good CC?
With 5.7FN becoming more common, low recoil, lower-than-average sound signature, and being mag-less so it it's nice and thin, I feel like it would be a really good CC weapon. If we're gonna follow the logic of 9mm where shot-placement is king and most people carrying hollowpoints where penetration isn't really a consideration anyways, I don't see how having 20+1 low-recoil rounds is a disadvantage.

Wait I'm supposed to grease the buffer tube threads? I don't know about castle nuts and shit because I did a rifle length but I just shoved 'er in dry.

>>65604070
5.7 is fine for a CC. Keltec is not fine for a CC.
Hope this clears things up.

>>65604078
I thought rumors about them being unreliable were mostly a meme. I've heard lots of good things about Kel-Tec. What are the other options for CC anyways? I know there's the actual FN57 but that feels a lot more full-size.

>>65604076

Yes. It prevents galling and possible galvanic corrosion between the castle nut and buffer tube.

>>65598723
>unless we are talking you never clean your gun for a thousand rounds.
clean??

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What's the hottest that a 22LR barrel could get from sustained FRT fire? Say, multiple 30-round mag dumps? At the chamber since that's gonna be the hottest? Assume a 10/22.

vidunrelated

>>65604078
My buddy says 5.7 always overpenetrates, even with hollowpoints.

Has anyone owned one of these before? https://www.koreessentials.com/products/x-series-buckle-gray-tactical-nylon-gun-belt-1-5-copy?variant=42025824124987
I carry a full sized pistol (Im poor and its the only gun I own) and my current belt is a decade old and finally falling apart. I really like the rachet system but Im not sure how comfortable the belt will be when Im not carrying/at work

Where do I buy an authentic, original sword or sabre in Europe online? I recall someone posting a website years ago, but don’t remember. I don’t have specific needs, and don’t want to spend thousands - start with the more common stuff, slash some pumpkins.

>>65605074
I used to wear something similar, but I wear my belt so tight that it kept stripping the little plastic teeth.
So now I wear some $20 belt from Amazon that has a cobra style buckle on it. Bought it to see if I liked the idea before buying a like $90 klik belt with a cobra buckle and I'd buy the expensive one once the cheap one broke it I liked it, and I've been using it over a year now. Closer to two.

>>65604317
I don't have a castle nut.

>>65604704
The goal is to make holes not increase the other person's blood lead content. Who cares where the bullet goes after it makes a hole.

>>65605322
IDK about nowadays. They used to get advertised occasionally at places like Sarco and GPC and Hunter's Guide, maybe Numrich too. Basically all the places that buy up ALL THE CRAP that nobody wants any more and then dribble it out to the "I'm restoring an original 1892 Kruger-Wermbelsohn cavalry drilling, where can I find a left barrel ejector spring pin?!"

>>65605709

Pages 240 - 241 of this document do a better job explaining installing a rifle buffer tube than I can: https://www.m-16parts.com/USMC-M16-MaintenanceManual.pdf

>>65606237
A butthurt blue DA who is mad you killed a 42-time-convicted felon and solved a problem and will do whatever he can to throw the book at you.

>>65606550
Don't carry if you feel that way, because missed & grazing shots are "over penetrating" by default and twink school shooters are narrow enough that your extreme ultra expander bullets are going to sneak through and hit little Timmy anyway.

>>65606798
I'm in complete agreement, I was just reminding you that even if you killed literally Hitler in the middle of gunning down a bunch of disabled black lesbian trans children, some DA with a stick up his ass will probably throw charges at you.

where can I score 3M VHB (Very High Bond) adhesive backing to make my own ranger wraps?
>NB4 FAGGOT REDDIT RANGER WRAP

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Is there any way to make the metal finish of the one on the left look like the one on the right?

>>65607618
Do you just want the doublesided stuff or something else? McMaster has some, dunno if that's what you mean.

is it gay if I find extremely convincing southeast asian troons attractive?

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>>65609921
yes. but do you care?

>>65609884
I actually found a video on it with a source. now I'm frozen with indecision over what pattern and denier cordura to use.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUI2Y4wE_k4

>>65610427
Ahegao.

>>65606237
Yeah but according to limited studies of shooting after-action reports it seems like the lead staying inside and expanding tends to be more likely to stop your average NAPA than putting two clean holes through them.

What picatinny stocks would you guys recommend for a general purpose carbine? Looking at the magpul UCS at the moment.

>>65610660
where can I source high D cordura in Ahegao?

I have a pelican 1750 that I wish to cover in it.

Is there a name for the oil-slick-look heat discoloration that you see occasionally on older stuff, similar to acid bluing/case hardening but unintentional and around the barrel? I've been trying to look it up but it's only turning up stuff about painting gunpla or 40k figs.

>>65613291
Case hardening?

>>65564172
Idk about guns but have bought ammo from them several times without any issues

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>>65613295
Kind of like that, but it was more as a unintentional effect of a lot of heat. Something like this but a gun barrel instead of car exhaust. I know it doesn't happen to normal firearms but I feel like I've seen it on artillery or on older stuff before.

>Always heard that the reason box shotgun mags suck bigly is the plastic gets deformed if it's sitting loaded for a while
Is this true of tube mags too? If I have a shotgun for home defense loaded for too long might the shells fail to cycle well, or is it not so much an issue with cylindrical "stacking" pressure instead of "squeezing" pressure like a box mag does?
If it is an issue, would just doing a partial load take enough spring pressure off them to avoid it?

>>65613390
Its true for tubemags but in the case of tubes its that the shell bulges out and it takes more than 6 months. If its a pump you can force it it harder and it will still work. Its roughly a year where it wont chamber at all.
Thats why they say shoot your shotgun twice a year.
With a box its weeks before the shell wont chamber.

>>65613396
Good to know, guess that gives me a good excuse to do some shooting too.

>>65613390
The reason box shotgun mags suck balls is that 12ga fat as fuck so by the time you reach a 10 round capacity its already significantly longer than a pmag 40

I've come to realize that guns aren't nearly expensive enough nowadays
In colonial times a poorfag smoothbore was 2 or 3 months wages, a fancy rifle around a year
That would filter out all the various undesirables from gun ownership, and prevent anyone except the super rich from becoming obnoxious gun hoarders
A firearm should be a car-tier purchase imo

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>>65613291
>>65613309
Scientifically speaking, it would be iridescence or thin film interfere.
I've heard it called "French bluing", but it's not technically bluing and I don't think that it's the formal term.
It's a byproduct of the tempering process (sometimes done for aesthetics alone).
The exceptionally thin iron oxide layer on the surface reflects light differently than the underlying steel, a bit like how a prism works, hence diffraction grating we perceive as color, with the thickness of the oxide layer affecting the wavelength of reflected light.

>>65613309
IIRC you can do that to titanium and some other metals by applying voltage in a water bath and tweaking the voltage as you pull it out of the water. You can do something similar to titanium with a flame. You can do the same with bare steel and a flame but it might affect the hardness (see: steel tempering color chart). You can also hot salt blue (see mark novak redoing a luger trigger + hot salt bluing color chart) and likely fake the effect in your pic with a steady hand and good temp control. I think that's all the ways I know of doing that.

>>65613679
Normally called fire bluing or nitre bluing.
Usually done for none pressure bearing parts like pins and screws.

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>>65613686
>IIRC you can do that to titanium and some other metals by applying voltage in a water bath and tweaking the voltage as you pull it out of the water.
That's anodizing.
>You can do something similar to titanium with a flame.
That's tempering, same effect as when heating steel.
A pot of molten lead at a fixed target temperature can be used to achieve this with a greater degree of control.
That's how the smaller parts of many older pistols were originally tempered, with the nice blue color being a side effect of the tempering process.

>You can also hot salt blue (see mark novak redoing a luger trigger + hot salt bluing color chart)
That's "nitre bluing", and it shouldn't be used on a Luger trigger, since that's a heat treated part that was tempered in molten lead at the factory, same way the springs, extractors, and other trigger components on those guns were heat treated at the factory.

There are several similar processes that should not be confused.

First, "nitre bluing" as previously described. It's only suitable for smaller parts, and only for parts that don't require any sort of heat treatment since it usually anneals the parts to cheese-grade softness.

Then there are some salts that can be used to chemically change the structure of the steel, effectively carburizing it and making it harder.
The feed lips on early Colt 1911 magazine were treated like this by partially submerging the mags in molten potassium cyanide.
The colored surface layers on these are extremely thin and fragile, so they're almost always worn off.

Finally we have the processes commonly called "hot bluing" or "caustic bluing" which involves boiling the parts in a water-based solution of lye, and various nitrates.
If the process is applied to parts that have been properly polished beforehand, it can produce a nice shiny black finish that's almost as fancy as finely rust blued guns, but with far less skilled labor involved.

>>65613740
>nitre bluing.
That's a completely different process.

>>65613802
Nope.
Nitre bluing is using the molten nitre salts to achieve the flame bluing with a consistent temperature. The chosen temperature is selected by varying the amounts of different salts. Can also use molten lead as stated above.
Hot salt bluing is nitre salts in water and is done at a lower temperature. This is the common one today.

>>65607776
Probably, but I use you to reconsider. Left looks objectively sexier than right.

>>65515573
where do you get blueprints for guns from? specifically 1911 and Beretta M9?

>>65615196
For the 1911 google "internet archive files for technical data packages"
I dont think the M9 TDP has been FOIA'd into public domain yet though

>>65607776
Carry and shoot it for 130 years
In all seriousness I saw a Blackie Thomas video about aging a cap and ball revolver, so the same techniques should apply, although I think he went overboard (gun basically ended up in-the-white iirc) so keep that in mind

>>65615288
thanks, I found the 1911 on archive.org but it's low resolution

>>65615576
These are supposed to be "cleaned" drawings but I cant unzip it on mobile for some reason
https://odysee.com/@hunteroftheyellowdog:4/m1911-a1-redux-gun-1.snapshot.6:a

>>65615677
fucking king shit, thanks brother. I got it unzipped somehow, they're very clean and highly detailed, exactly what I was looking for. I fucking love /k/