what air defense doing?
Air defense is not having ammo, because retards in the middle east keep shooting gucci BMD missiles at flying lawnmowers.
>twitter postdie in a car fire
>can't stop any of the missiles>Doesn't matter anyway because Russians can't aim for shit.
>>65516765>*because retards voted for Republicans who ran on and won on ending aid to Ukraine Fixed that for you bud. Sans gratis.
>zircon hypersanic cruise missileliterally does not exist
>>65516761>S-400 in ground attack >ZirconI'm guessing they didn't have to do anything
>>65516761Significantly better than zigger air defense, it seems, given your seething.
>>65516761What's the point of these attacks if they don't have a WMD payload?
>>65516784That is a problem, yes, but Ukraine and its remaining allies can't even *buy* the goddamn missiles now, because the US is running low on them itself due to so many being wasted in yet another stupid misadventure in the middle east.
>>65516784I voted for the racism, not the war
>>65516824Well that's weird because you helped elect the most compromised, zionist slave administration in history, and when you look into who is encouraging massive immigration and liberal social justice, its not Iran or Ukraine.
>>65516824You don't support the Western chauvinist tradition of butchering persian fairyboys and retarded arabs?
>>65516824Fair enough
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>>65516765>>65516784while you aren't wrong, this is only a minor aggravation to the issuethe REAL issue is that the EU (particularly Germany) is genuinely, literally, and unironically retarded to an insane degree and refused to invest in defense spending despite the US *begging* them too for decades, and despite the very obvious sign that they'd need to in 2014REMINDER>Russia annexed Crimea in 2014>Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022>Despite the above, Germany did not hit its NATO spending goal until 2024>also as an aside Germany removed its nuclear power in favor for greater Russian oil and gas dependenceI hate Europeans so much its unreal, after free riding for decades they deserve everything thats happening to themaside from Eastern Europeans, you niggas are alright
>>65516824Good job, you got a corrupt zigger-zion elected instead. Dude's own son had his wedding bankrolled by the Russians.
>Russian frontline gets pushed back into Luhansk, entire force there begins routing>Immediately wastes 20 ballistic missiles terror-bombing civilians in KyivI feel bad for the civvies, but damn are Russia retarded, killing random 70 year old women and setting apartment buildings on fire does not advance Muscovite goals in any way shape or form, the fact the vatnik OP actually felt this was something to be proud of and post about shows how incapable they are of actually winning a war.
>>65516864Well. A decrepit old russian bear high on krokodil flailing around without any kind of aim has to be happy if he hits -anything-, right?Also, those shills have to brag about something,and if the frontline doesn't give anything to brag, it has to be a destroyed garden shed in Ukraine. No shilling, no rubles. No rubles, no vodka. Please understand.
>>65516824>voluntarily voting for the most objectively compromised Shabbos goy in the history of the United States because le based racism Peek human cattle behavior.
>>65516859This won't get any replies because the honorary third-worlders known as Europeans don't have a single argument against it. See that anon up above trying to shame another for not voting to... have the US provide EVEN MORE free defense to a European country?
>>65516824The fuck did you think was going to happen you stupid cunt
>>65516859>>65516891Privet tovarish wild berries status
>>65516948bold of you to assume he was thinkingA key (but far from the only) source of the instability in the west is coming from people who have decided that "policies lead to outcomes" is too complicated to understand and retreated into magical thinking
>>65516784Voted Republican earned me FRTs and suppressors removed from the NFA so it was worth it.
>>65516761>S-400 in surface to surfaceIt seems air defense is playing land attack
>>65516761Nothing because retarded faggot american subhumans used all patriots for their war against iran which they lost btw
Oh yes the good old russian tradition of nigurigshka in action. S400 doing ground attack.
>>65516761Thats a lot of expensive missiles. Did they hit anything worth that investment?
>>65517017They missed the children's hospital and hit residential buildings like always
>>65516859With how people are talking you could think germany = EU, since seemingly noone else matters. Which should give you a hint that rest of europe needs to step up, instead of solely relying on germany. Germans are already paying for everything and people still have more demands. And with that I mean real money and not shit that was standing in a desert or missiles that are about to expire like the US did.How about not relying on germany to be the savior for once. They are fine with just playing irl factorio and being the wallet, what more do you need?Here is a suggestion for the US, how about you whores increase oil production by 500%. Then maybe all your fuckery wouldn't impact everyone and you would make a lot of money. You wanted to increase manufacturing, why isn't patriot production not insanely high? Lazy ass fuckers that never actually wanna do something themself.
>>65516824>I didn't vote for this.That's the neat part. Ya did.And it's not like it wasn't obvious he was a comic caricature of slimeball corruption from the get go either. Seriously, you could not have distilled a dodgier looking, dodgier sounding, old fat white male.
>>65516859>"The EU are lazy and ungrateful windbags who refuse to spend any money on defense, and just expect America to do it for them. This is why they can't send munitions to Ukraine.">He says, while the EU has outperformed America for quantity and quality of military aid and resources provided.
>>65516784you just say gratis. cocksucker
>>65516761Making money for brown small hat shareholders
>>65516976This. We're in the finding out phase of ignoring loads of problems for decades, and many people's reaction is to vote to try and ignore them harder.
>>65516784even if you voted for democriesats nothing would have being better because the problem is foundamentally mental usa is a fully capitalistic country down to buying even the simplest screws from random companies russia isnt like thatchina also isnt like that they have a big percentage of manufacturing being done by the goverment instead hell even the whole nuclear maintaince and production isnt even part of the u.s goverment
>>65516824*I fell for the propaganda
>>65517037Germs are genuinely floundering and shitting themselves lately, the old idea of them being the only relevant country in Europe is just that, old.
>>65517098Yeah yeah Harris would've started a war with Iran, increased the debt and caused high gas prices. Thank God this was avoided with Trump.
>>65517129people that being diagnosed for a lesser form of stupidity
>>65516864>does not advance muscovite goalsBut the goal is genocide, I thought that had been made very clear by now.
>>65516761hmm.. does this means russia can fly their aircraft in ukraine airspace with little to no resistance?
>>65516807I'd say Russian air defence performs much better than the US air defence in the Middle East, and Moscow in particular has by far the best AD on the planet right now.
>>65517145It's going to take an awful long time if your plan of genocide is killing 7 pensioners every 9 days
>>65517179>We didn't need those refineries and logistics centers anyway Lol the copes never change, they just get reworded
>>65517179>trusting russian claimsI've a bridge to sell you
>>65517188Somehow I doubt that a temporary dip in Russia's refining capacity and several burned down warehouses with Chinese flip-flops is an equal exchange for the destroyed ports, railway network, power grid, petrol stations, metallurgic factories, and ah yes, 90% of warehouses. At this rate, scam call centers will become the only enterprise that generates you any revenue.
>>65517215Man those warehouse losses really rattled Russia.
Brown thread
>>65517215All that and you've still been pushed back into Luhansk. Sad.
>>65516856Announcing reports is against site rules, genius.
>>65516761>impacted Kyivnotice that they did not mention if any actual targets were hit, and if the ballistic missiles were launched at a target within Patriot coverage
>>65517179The real question is how that air defense would perform against F-35, B2 bombers. I don't think it will do so well. Patriot is old as shit garbage anyway, arrow 3 and arrow 4 are much more advanced. Israel made it and US claimed it immediately. Israelis are by far the most advanced when it comes to surface to air tech currently.Its funny seeing all these Euro muslim shitholes seethe about Israel and Palestine while also making deals with Israel about cyber sec tech, drone tech, surface to air tech (Germany bought arrow for example). Doesn't make sense to shittalk and sanction the country feeding your own defense but w/e, western Euros are ruled by retards.
>>65517260>Russian animal decides to try his hand at divide and conquer shilling
>>65516859>>65516891Kys, false-flagging zigger shill.
>>65517262NTA but he's not wrong and it's a genuine defence procurement consideration for the yurofagsunderscored recently by the Macklemore/Sheeran controversy
>>65517267>pointing out that EU nations refuse to invest in defense and mil-industry now makes you a zigger shillI am John Borisson of London oblast and I am of agreeings, all European nations must immediately cut defense budget by 50%, to show the Trump who is boss)))
>>65517179>believing zigger claims>>65517215Well yeah, it isn't. The effectively permanent destruction of Russias refining capacity and crippling of one of its most important logistics providers is a hell of a lot more impactful than light damage to a couple ports, a few busted locomotives, a few outlying sections of a power grid or afew paetrol stations. Let alone all the other fantasies you zigger retards try to pander.>90% of warehousesYeah, Wildberry ones. Nice attempt at projecting, tho.>At this rate, scam call centers will become the only enterprise that generates you any revenue.You mean besides the still growing ukrainian MIC that is pumping out more missiles and drones to cripple your shithole third world country with every day that passes, pidorovich?
>>65517260>>65517268Don't samefag so obviously, pidorovich.>>65517293>gets called out as the false-flagging zigger shill he is>brings out the next false-flagging zigger shill talking point, straight off of the scriptYou subhumans are so obvious and predictable, it's pathetic.
>>65516842Did all of you retarded faggots who's replying to this guy forget who the other candidate was, and what the other side stands for? Most people who voted for Trump, voted against the radical left.The funny thing is that for all the kvetching about the alt-right back in the day when they still existed, they were supposed to be an alternative to the zionist right, exactly because of shit like this. People were sick of the radical left, and wanted to vote right, but didn't want to vote for a zionist Republican.Funny how it ended up being subverted not only by jews, but also by various other thirdies, like muslims, indians and russians.
You might as well just go back to posting the gay porn, this thread's about as subtle.
>>65517315>who the other candidate wasThe most centrist and milquetoast Democratic candidate in a long while?
>>65517215A temporary (it's permanent btw) dip in refining capacity matters a lot when your economy looks like this, zigger>>65517305>this week's zigger false flag is to call posts obviously contrary to russian interests as zigger false flagsSlightly more clever than usual, but still pathetically obvious. TZD
>>65517179>"damaged by debris"Ah yes, the magical, target-seeking Ukrainian drone debris that always falls on refineries or Wildberry depots, such misfortune.
>>65517322Fuck off, retard.
>>65517215Just like how they destroyed 100% of the ukrainian military in the opening of the war, right?You zigbots are fucking worthless, why do you even spam this shit here where people can easily see and call your tactics out rather than your home territory of twitter/ect.
>>65517323>26% of the russian economy is "unclassified transactions"
>>65517260You seem Jewish.
>>65517055>EU outperforming America for aid on a war on their continentDuh? What, you want us to fight your war for you?
>>65516761Damn russia is strong
Stop bumping your low-quality shitpost thread.
>>65517179>this is almost>vague, nebulous, allows wiggle room if questioned>oil refinery, admits 'several times'>Wildberries warehouses and logistic centres; does not state how many hits (videos show multiple drones hitting a single building)>Several industrial zones 'damaged by debris'So what you're saying is, Ukraine has hit dozens of targets?
>>65516800They are definitely different S-400 has been in use for (a year?) a long time and many. Also Zircon's launcher is the Bastion launcher not the S-400 launcher. My think is now there was some budget Bastion/Oniks coastal defense development done pre-2022 (i.e. a solid fuel staged missile) that converted easily to TBM. Also S-400 warhead is bigger than that on Zircon - weird.
>>65517325The debris knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or debriation. >>65517388The pidor problem is self-correcting since Ukraine will eventually /k/ube enough Russians to put an end to the porn spam and slide threads.
>>65517179Russian sources are saying that the maion reason the Lyman front is collapsing is because they can't get supplies through their usual methods. Their usual methods being "having it delivered by wildberries".
>>65517323Show us where refined petroleum is on the chart.
>>65517477Show us where refined petroleum is in Russian gas stations
>>65516761>>65517447AMK Mapping is a terrible source, not only is he the type of zigger that buys into kremlin narratives, he also doesn't believe in the concept of grey zones.
>>65517055The EU has nearly twice the population of the US, they should be sending twice the amount of resources to Ukraine.
>>65517500they should be GIVING stuff to Ukraine too, not merely LENDINGand it should be guided missiles and launchers, not just 155mm common
>>65517500twice of zero is still zero. luckily we send much more than that. but the point remains. you pledged assistance to ukraine and now you don't. that caused quite a stirrup and it's one of the many reasons your allies hate you. cause you're not reliable.
>>65517519The US has sent 116 billion dollars worth of aid to Ukraine. >cause you're not reliable.The feeling is mutual, the US has put up with unreliable European allies for decades at this point.
>>65517522>>65517519Ziggers false flagging to divide and conquer
>>65517179yeah.
>>65517179>>65517548yeah x2
>>65516784no new wars choice, btwMan, republicans are fucking stupid
>>65516995What is the legal status of the original XM177E2 flash hider?
>>65517179Yeah
>>65517179>all AD is now in Moscow>rest of country has noneUkraine struck a gas field in the arctic that had all the AD removed to 'protect Moscow'
>hypersanic
>thread opens about X topic>X topic within 5-25 posts always pivots towards either trump, america, israel, or iran (but only in relation to the previous 3)why?
>>65517624>trump, america, israelBecause trump is teh retard in charge of america and does whatever isreal tells him to, (or what russia tells him to)>iranthaks to teh actions of teh above iran gets to fuck the entire world's oil supplyHow is this not blindingly obvious?
>>65516784/thread
>>65517624>OP is blatant thirdie shitposter spamming>"Why dis thread a shitpost thread?"
>>65517548>>65517550>>65517566Impressive.Now let's talk about percentage. How many missile and drones ukraine launch and how many actually hit the target?
>>65517647fair
>>65517650Since Russia does not publish data, we don't know
>>65516995Suppressors weren't removed from the NFA, retard. Walk into your LGS and try to buy a can.
>>65516824You voted for a demented orange rape nigger that gave a cow fucking DEI pajeet unlimited power to catch, jail and rape white women you fucking retard.
>>65517663trying too hard
>>65517663Is the FBI that short staffed?
>>65517657Really?? >>65517179
>>65517650...zigger-shill arguments...
>>65517676>zigger-shillAsking for a data makes you a zigger shill?
>>65517322Yeah but she's a woman and I'd sooner rip out my small intestine and hang myself with it than let a woman take power
>>65517684I still don't get the culture war against all thing correlated to woman. Isn't your mother a woman too? do you hate her too because she is a woman?
>>65517691No, I hate her because she's a junkie bitch that shot and nearly killed my younger brother
You can tell you're arguing with a yuropoor. They keep pushing dems as better candidates on the weapons board full of Americans that own firearms and despise democrats.
>>65517704ukrainians, jeets, mudslimes and chinks do it too, because they know Democrats are spineless at best, if not actively anti-American
>>65517701>Broken home victimAhh.. i see now. My condolences for you, anon.
>>65517704>>65517708>more divide and conquer spamTell your handler you need a new script
>>65516765Even one of the chosen race is worth more than all of Ukraine put together.
>>65516824>I voted for the racism>slave to jews who imports millions of indians to ameristan anyway and outright says americans are not competent enough the average amerigroid actually has 3rd world IQ
>>65517673>rando twatter screenshot>'Russia publishes data'These things are not the same.If it was Russian MoD website, ok maybe. Even then Russia lies about fucking everything even to their own people so their data is suspect at best anyway
>>65517222>CheckedIt is hard to imagine how utterly fucked the Russian domestic situation is getting because of those strikes on Ozon and Wild Berries. The civilian population have heavily invested into online shopping because most of the time, there is no reason to open up small physical businesses in most towns or villages because of the difficulty of attracting out of town customers and there not being enough demand locally to make doing so profitable. By burning down these warehouses with their vast hordes of miscellaneous shit, they are wiping out the ability of a good portion of the Russian population from getting their hands on the most basic of supplies. Winter is going to be a strange one in Russia this year.
>>65517477No benzine :(
>>65517704You want quality republicans though. Trump is killing support for that party rapidly. Now it looks like the pendulum will swing hard towards dems and with them less gun freedom.The whole 'other option would be worse' cope is just admittance that they did a shit job and don't know how to do better. Imagine you go to McDonalds, eat there and get food poisoning for 3 days. But then people say it's fine cause if you went to BurgerKing you would have gotten 5 days of food poisoning. It's retard logic for people who can't imagine the idea of doing better.
>>65517678no, but you're still a zigger shill
>>65517743It’s the 2 parties retarded logic, and very American
>>65517716Until democrats drop the anti-gun rhetoric they will never be supported here.
>>65517708>>65517704Here's a big cup of go fuck yourself. You're the bad guys. 100% not who you claim to be or claim to associate with , you as people. You are draw to being pieces of crap like flies are drawn to it, any given situation question or opportunity. You'll be pieces of shit. Some people just are.
>>65517878You write like an indian
>>65517878You're a yuroniggers that will never fit in. Kill yourself.
>>65517673tbf I look at >>65517179 and just get confused cause I'm not sure wether it's about that only a single drone went through but somehow caused all that damage or if the math is that 6225 drones were launched and 2280 were intercepted. I don't get which of these is suppose to portrait things as good for Russia.
>>65517912You're not American.
>>65517716Condemn the NFA
>>65517716Sorry about the NFA taking a hit, redditor. It will happen again.
>>65517878Youre doing a better job shilling for ziggers than ziggers themselves. Fucking early 2000s xbox live chat behaviorApply yourself.
>>65517958OH GOD HE HAS THE SIM CARDS RUN
>>65517704>>65517708Jesus what a pathetic attempt
>>65516859>refused to invest in defense spending despite the US *begging* them too for decadesThis is a meme. If you add up the defense spending of European countries over the last 10 years its in the trillions. The real issue is that there's loads of duplication and its not designed to add up to one coherent military
So he just ban evades and spams in these threads every day, huh?
>>65516784Sorry you're not getting paid anymore, Hunter. >>65516824BASED
>>65517720Yeah the party that completely stopped H1Bs is as bad as the people using them to create voter blocs because the deportations aren't instant. Oh wait that's also because of leftist "judges".
>>65517129>Harris would've started a war with Iran, increased the debt and caused high gas pricesYes, yes and yes.
>>65517315They're shills. Or rather a shill network with proxies who pay to post here. You are arguing with literal Pajeets, Liliths and Achmeds.
>>65517624Daddy burger no gib gibs and deport turdie papa, turdie sad. Turdie then cry on 4chan about chuds. Simple as.
>>65517633>actions of teh above iran gets to fuck the entire world's oil supplyIronically Ukraine nuking Russias O&G infrastructure is what's pushing up the price of diesel.
>>6551766394% reductions in border crossings. H1Bs have a 100k cost and no new ones are being approved. Got what I voted for.
>>65517704Yep. And they have no counterargument to this.
>>65517669No. The reason is that some woman who got trafficked tried to join and they had to decline her because she was forced to perform acts of bestiality while being trafficked. Obviously, whomever she is, she is important enough that they are changing rules to get her in. So the new rule is that unwilling bestiality is not grounds for exclusion, or something like that.
>>65517322it's a woman who ran on the campaign that she was a woman and thus should be handed the presidency.both candidates, as always, were absolute dogshit.
>>65517633Seems like they're just fucking themselves and China (Russia is too gaped to feel it) while America makes bank on its own oil. Winners win.
>>65518076Also record deportations, also poverty lowest in recorded US history, also GDP growth forecast at 5%.
>>65517322Let's see the past Dem candidates who supported castration for kids.
>>65517322>milquetoast Democratic candidate in a long while?Bait.
>>65518090>Let's see the past Dem candidates who supported castration for kidsAnd open borders. And citizenship for illegals. And free healthcare for illegals. And the destruction of the energy sector. And DEI. Holy shit, the insanity of the Biden era feels like a fever-dream.
>>65517500>The EU has nearly twice the population of the US>450 is twice 350man browns are really, really bad at math
>>65516995>I'm a broke, destitute, soon-to-be shameful slave of third world tinpot dictators who can't even pay for a bottle of aspirin, a tank of gas or rent without breaking the bank but atleast I got an AR-15 with a canYou are the most armed serf in the world
>Hardcore /pol/ spamming trying to get people fighting over cultural issuesThis is their idea of being subtle.
>>65518073>dude it's totally the ukies fault!lmao fuck off zigger
>>65518097that checks out since half of us population doesn't qualify as human beings
>>65518097He's not bad at math, he's just only counting US Whites vs. the Euro 450.
>>65518073Hi, Dahnald.
>>65518098A total non-argument. >>65518106Russia produces about 6% of the worlds diesel but, importantly, it's generates about 12% of global seaborne diesel exports. Since sanctions have been a thing Brazil, Turkey and Africa are it's primary markets. Y'all have taken almost 12% of the worlds diesel out of circulation which means the markets they used to sell in now have to compete in other markets to meet their needs. More demand, less supply, prices go up globally.
>>65518136>Y'all
>>65518136Sounds like Russia could’ve avoided the sanctions and refinery strikes by not acting like a complete nigger.
>>65518147>Iran is winning the energy war Bait.
>>65517954I enjoy watching the same faggots calling trump a worse anti-gun faggot than obama/biden over the bumstock ban get btfo with frt's and the nfa being gutted.
>>65518147>Alex Jones
>>65518147>Saudi Arabia>Syzran and SaratovKek what a retard.
>>65518149Yes. Ukraine could also not undermine a parallel war against a key Russian ally by driving up fuel costs right at a politically sensitive time in the US. Why is why Trump is mad. Ukraine just needs to hold off for like three months and then they can go balls-deep on Russian oil and gas. But nooooo the Ukranians need to be pigheaded retards about everything all the fucking time.
>>65518147>he deleted itAhahahahahahaha
>>65518089Yup. It turns out it's easier to break the country than fix it but shills live in an alternate reality if they think white gun owners want open borders.
>>65518158> Ukraine just needs to hold off for like three monthsHow about this? No.
>>65518096Don't forget using Covid as a test run for authoritarianism. I fully expected that we would have another outbreak every election cycle with the associated flood of mail in ballots from addresses that don't exist, no creases despite allegedly being in an envelope, and only the presidential race filled in.
>>65516859You generalize too much I would say. Yes Germany is the biggest retard in the room, together with freeloaders like Spain n' Portugal and backstabbers like Hungary, Greece and Slovakia. But then at the other end you have countries like Poland, Nordics, Baltics, Romania, Czechia and the UK who have gone beyond the rest in terms of either supporting Ukraine and/or re-arming themselves.I would say the biggest issue is the voting boomer generation who has fucked over everyone in the political sphere, because they wanna retire and fuck everyone over until they are in the grave.
>>65518098How are we slaves compared to you, turdie? Let's hear it.
>>65518136>Russia produces about 6% of the worlds dieselHopefully not anymore.
>>65518158Ever notice how shills use this every-sentence-is-a-paragraph shit? Is it a discord thing?
>>65518114I agree that commies don't count as people.
>>65518181>You're being pigheaded retards and are under mining your own interests >Yes >>65518184"luxury boomer communism"
>>65518191God forbid someone use paragraphs to separate thoughts.
>>65518046>If you add up the defense spending of European countries over the last 10 years it’s in the trillions.They have a population of nearly twice that of the USA, they should be spending twice the amount that the USA spends on the military
>>65518194>You're being pigheaded retards and are under mining your own interests>you should leave your enemy actively terrorbombing your cities alone on a vague promise that SOMEONE might do SOMETHING in three monthslollmaoHit 'em again Budanov
>>65518192actual commies (tankies) are like 1% of the US population and most of them are terminally online retards of no consequence
>>65518194>Just let Russia benefit from Trump sending oil skyhigh as they try to genocide you.No. Why doesn't Trump try to make a deal though? Instead of demanding they fight their existential war according to what's convenient for him and will pull his nuts out of the fire, why doesn't he try offering something of equal worth to the Ukrainians?And actually delivering for a change.
>>65518194>under miningCan you at least try and pretend English is your first language.
>>65518205>a vague promise that SOMEONE might do SOMETHING in three monthsYou're aware there is massive ongoing conflict with Iran right now, yes? You're equally aware that Iran is Russias No. 1 ally, yes?
>>65518201Not every sentence warrants its own paragraph, especially when they're connected thoughts.
>>65518212>why doesn't he try offering something of equal worth to the Ukrainians?Killing Russias biggest ally is *something*. >>65518213>Heh, that's a good point and I don't really have a rebuttal >But autocorrect cucked you so ha! Either make an argument or just ignore my posts.
>>65518215I'm aware that Russia is providing targeting data and intelligence to Iran, and Trump refuses to even acknowledge it.
>>65518223>Killing Russias biggest ally is *something*.Collapsing Iran, even if American can do it (doubtful at this point) doesn't help Ukraine at all.
>>65518216That's how I write. Get over it.
>>65518233I will not tolerate unnecessary faggotry
>>65518215You're aware that America is doing nothing to help Ukraine, so Ukraine will act in its own best interest to fight the enemy it can fight, yes?
>>65518231>Collapsing the country that is providing Russia with ballistic missiles, 300,000 shells per year, and drone infrastructure has no benefit to Ukraine Bait.
>>65518202Europe should’ve definitely been spending more on defense, but we shouldn’t act like America’s defense spending is reasonably proportional to our population. We could cut the DoD’s FY26 budget in half and not lose anything of value because most of that money is paying for overpriced contracts with private sector firms. If Lockheed says they need $12B for a project then you can bet your ass they only really need $8B, but the DoD will just pay the asking price every time.
>>65518238You will. And you will be made to like it. >>65518240>Someone is murdering my enemies key ally? I'm going to pompously interfere with that!You must be European. This is a very specific kind of idiocy and it's very prevalent among Europeans.
>>65517213Almost perfect condition, just needs 2 hours and some guys with a cement mixer?
>>65518255The D&Cfag gives himself away yet again.
>>65518255You see this fucking shitpost?! I'm going to teach you format a proper post with this fucking shitpost.
>>65518255You're either a shill or a bored troll, but in either category you should strive to do better. Or kill yourself.
>>65518258D&C how? I'm the one saying Ukraine should be triangulating with the US. You, or the person I am replying to, is arguing that Ukraine should tell the US to pound sand. My argument is id unity, yours (or his) is of disunity.
>>65518252Europe’s problem is they don’t think power projection matters. Stealth tech, carriers and long-range naval assets, air superiority, etc. They’ve neglected these things because they only think about defending their immediate borders, which makes the alliance as a whole shitty because most of the nations in said alliance are barely capable of initiating serious force outside of their own countries. America’s military spending is reasonable, it’s the other wasteful social welfare bullshit that ironically is the real drain on wealth.
>>65518269>I'm the one saying Ukraine should be triangulating with the US.How do you triangulate with a nation that actively refuses to help you and is in fact telling you to surrender
>>65518263Anon, my shitposting is of such high quality that even when I effortpost it has inherent undertones of a shitpost, bait is built into the dna of my posts even when I'm not baiting. I have mastered my craft, you would do well to study my works.
>>65518277>How do you triangulate with a nation that actively refuses to help youBy not acting like a petulant child and getting out the the other countries way so they can finish murdering your enemies greatest ally. Obviously.
>>65518280>By not acting like a petulant child >AmericaOkay, you got me.
>>65518098I'm not broke or destitute though? I have no debt, a paid off home, 200k+ in crypto, and another 100k in cash in savings. Not even going to mention my 401k but I'm well over one million net worth.I'm voting Republican in the mid terms again btw.
>>65516859Dude Germans want cheap russian resources they hoped this shit will end fast. Now that it's obvious it won't they are hoping for Putin to get coup'd. Russia is no threat for EU not even Poland. Maybe Baltics but opening another front when Ukraine is going so bad would be completely retarded. But then so was attacking Ukraine so who the fuck knows.
>>65518299You seem very insecure to be posting here.
>>65518306You seem very brown and poor thobeit.
>>65518289>Why no, I don't have a rebuttal. Yeah.
>>65518270>Europe’s problem is they don’t think power projection mattersTrue (except for the UK and to a lesser extent France), they got complacent because they thought America’s interests would always align with their own so we could just project force on their behalf. It worked for them during the Cold War and GWOT but it’s not a good long-term strategy. >America’s military spending is reasonableIf you ever work in defense contracting you’ll find that’s not the case. There’s a reason the DoD has never passed an audit.
>>65518136>noo it's the ukies fault!fuck of zigger
>>65518246We're talking about Iran, not North Korea. Iran gave Russia shaheds and that's the extent of their material assistance.They are certainly not giving Russia ballistic missiles or shells.
>>65518278You may have talent, but I have decades of experience and you lack discipline. Any man can bait a thousand posts and catch a thousand fish, but a master can bait a single post and catch one thousand fish.Nigger lole.
>>65518304>but opening another front when Ukraine is going so bad would be completely retardedDude, read the book about Russian history and geopolitics during XX century, Being completely retarded is the default state of this, duh, state....akshually, when you think about it, it was like that during Tsar times as well. Just slightly different flavour of retardation.
The ziggers trying to get Euroanons to fight MAGAnons with D&C posting are hilarious. You're not getting our guns, commies.
>>65518202>nearly twice>450 is now twice 350if I got a penny for every time you make that retarded claim, I'd have two pennies from this tread alone
>>65518257I'll even throw in the cement mixer!
>>65518334It is, to a large degree, their fault.>>65518342>They are certainly not giving Russia ballistic missiles or shells.They were. But not anymore. I wonder why?
