>Saudi approved for F-35>48 planes>$24.3 BILLIONhttps://www.state.gov/releases/bureau-of-political-military-affairs/2026/09/kingdom-of-saudi-arabia-f-35-lightning-ii-joint-strike-fighter-aircraft/With all costs included, thats half a billion per plane, what the fuck? No contract comes close.Also what are they going to do with the F-35s when they can barely do anything with the 200+ F-15s that they have?
>>65518354Create competition for the Greatest Ally slot, which is a massive Trump W.
>>65518354In the context of competition with Iran and the the Yemeni Civil war, buying F 35s makes no sense since it would be like shooting a gun against an ant. Deterring Israel is the most likely use of these jets.
>>65518366There is no way these aren't downgraded somehow to let Israel keep it's edge.
>>65518354RIP F-35's invincibility.
>>65518386As someone who comes from a country that doesn't exactly get along with the US, I can tell you that the influence Israel has over the US is exaggerated for propaganda reasons to make the US look weak. Israel's power is often overexaggerated.
>>65518354>Also what are they going to do with the F-35s when they can barely do anything with the 200+ F-15s that they have?F-35s are stealth planes and the Israel-Iran war has proven to them, Russian and Chinese air defenses and radar are completely useless against them. F-35s would allow the Saudis to actually take the fight to the Yemeni without fear of being shot down, and to strike against Iranian targets whenever they wanted to. This is probably the best thing possible to project air power.
>>65518398Shits somehow gonna get shot down by a fish bed knowing the collective IQ of Saudi Arabia. Like how the fuck can you not fully make G3s? The fucking Portuguese can figure it out but not the Saudis?
>>65518386Sure they are, they just put Saudi pilots in them.
>>65518400This. AIPAC spends less on lobbying than the National Association of Realtors. It's just a hot button issue because AIPAC only lobbies one side, so the other bullies them for it. No one is ever going to go after a lobby (like the fucking real estate agents) who pay everyone. >>65518366I don't think you realize what sensor funsion means.
>>65518406>Sure they are, they just put Saudi pilots in them.
>>65518400https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-f-35-jets-be-sold-saudi-arabia-lack-israels-advanced-features-2025-11-19/I didn't make that up, this was the story just last year.
>>65518411>Only time I've ever seen SFWs misdeployed out of parameters they just slammed into the ground in the carriers still.Saudis ruined the reputation of those. Genuinely the most chucklefuck of the Gulfies AFAIK.
>>65518400>As someone who comes from a country that doesn't exactly get along with the USAre you danish?
>>65518354What the fuck? Didn't Finland get 64 for like 10 billion?
>>65518418Omg if it's that Danish lunatic abandon thread.
>>65518400It’s funny that the UK is now in an anti Israel phase. Probably because they believe Israel convinced us to bomb Iran, and they feel extreme jealousy because they tried for years to scam Biden into a similar campaign only vs Russia, and spammed the internet trying to get the US public on board, and it didn’t work
>>65518403Or the Saudis use them in ways that completely negate the stealth advantage and then claim that America sold them defective planes when they start getting shot down.
>>65518354>supply both ideologically opposed neighbors with weapons>the MIC's face when
I for one want to congratulate Lockheed on a never-ending source of replacement aircraft orders
>>65518420These contracts often include different terms which fucks with the price. Saudis often build full life cycle costs into the contract (front load) because they got fat stacks. Places like Finland will back load because they dont have fat stacks lying around so when it's time for a rebuild or new engines they will do a new contract
>>65518403>F-35s would allow the Saudis to actually take the fight to the Yemeni without fear of being shot downAre you under the impression the houti use radars?
>>65518424Kys, zigger
>>65518418Worse, I come from Serbia.
>>65518420Czechia bought 24 for 6.5 billion
>>65518420They filled the rebate out correctly, fucking autists
>>65518424>>65518424>Seething about the UK out of nowhere>Random Russian persecution-complexYou really can't help yourselves
>>65518354>$24.3 BILLIONwith that amount they could literally build millions of hornet type attack drones and kill every single houthis
>>65518407>AIPAC only lobbies one sideVery untrue but lately they seem to have realized leftist "Jews" aren't real Jews.
>>65518420Well known trick when buying a boat: bring a woman and get a better price!
>>65518424It's because the UK is Islamic.
>>65518448Its funny when you lot try and push that line.
>>65518457>>65518443>>65518433>bongs get mocked on /k/ >instantly these replies You are making it too obvious who is doing the anti-Russia spamposting Nigel. Calm down fella
>>65518354because they can't do any of the maintenance ect. themselves so all those costs get included in the sticker price
>>65518462>making it too obvious>Nigelno, u.And do you really think after multiple years of russian shills from /pol/ spamming /k/ anyone is gonna buy your narrative that people are only anti-russian because of an anglo saxon conspiracy web?That's like shitting on someones doorstep, looking them straight in the eye and telling them it wasn't you.
>>65518470I agree nigel. People who make fun of the UK being Islamic are really Russians from /pol/No american calls the UK islamic. That narrative has been identified as a Russian talking point. Which is why any level-headed american would reply with "Moscow.jpg" if anyone made such a joke. Carry on everyone.
>>65518354>The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has requested to buy forty-eight (48) F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter aircraft with conventional takeoff and landing; and forty-nine (49) Pratt & Whitney F135-PW-100 engines (48 installed, 1 spare). The following non-MDE items will also be included: AN/PYQ-10 simple key loaders; KIV-78 cryptographic appliques; secure communications, precision navigation, and cryptographic devices; electronic warfare database support; cartridge actuated devices/propellant actuated devices; aircraft and munitions support and support equipment; spare parts, consumables and accessories, and repair and return support; training aids, devices, and spare parts; engine component improvement program; major and minor modifications and maintenance support; classified and unclassified software delivery and support; classified and unclassified publications and technical documentation; transportation, ferry, and refueling support; personnel training and training equipment, including simulators; clothing, textiles, and individual equipment; studies and surveys; site surveys; U.S. Government and engineering, technical, and logistics support services; and other related elements of logistics and program support. I mean, all you had to do was literally read the release you yourself posted to know what they;re getting for that money, but, I guess actually reading beyond a headline is too hard for low IQ /pol/ shitskins.
>>65518480you fucking cunt, that text is basically the same for most of the purchases you can find on dsca mil, for example as is for the czech republic which paid 1/5th of that for half the planes, not to mention this is without weapons too, so no, its not obvious where a 10 billion gap is, NIGGER
>>65518478Its literally a photo from Moscow.https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/04/21/in-photos-russias-muslims-celebrate-the-end-of-ramadan-a80898
>>65518494The 10b gap is probably to try and keep USA invested in it's based in Saudi Arabia. Nta
>>65518354Beyond the aircraft and everything that's necessary to fly it, look at what's included:>aircraft and munitions support and support equipment>spare parts>consumables and accessories>repair and return support>training aids, devices, and spare parts>engine component improvement program>major and minor modifications and maintenance support>classified and unclassified software delivery and support>classified and unclassified publications and technical documentation>transportation, ferry, and refueling support>personnel training and training equipment, including simulators>clothing, textiles, and individual equipment>studies and surveys>site surveys>U.S. Government and engineering, technical, and logistics support services>and other related elements of logistics and program support.When buying a F-35 not only do you need to acquire the support equipment, you're also buying the program to train your personnel and the simulators that allow you to continue that training in-house. If you buy more F-35s after that the cost per unit is lower since you don't have to buy all the support chain again.The first tranche of Brazilian Gripens also cost something absurd like 212 million per plane. Almost a quarter billion. You don't buy aircraft and fuck off, you need to acquire a pile of documentation, software, hire experts to train your trainers, etc.
>>65518494>Defence Minister Jana Cernochova said the state will pay 150 billion crowns ($6.47 billion) by 2034, which includes 44 billion for base upgrades in the Czech Republic along with fuel, staff training and taxes.https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/czech-government-approves-plan-buy-24-f-35-jets-2023-09-27/Funny how the total jumped $1 billion USD. Almost like the contracts include different things and calculate costs differently, huh? Furthermore, the price is going to jump significantly when 2026 prices are accounted for.https://www.airandspaceforces.com/f-35-price-rising-new-upgrades-inflation/
>>65518521yeah except the Gripens are partly made in Braziland yes every contract has maintenance included, not the point, when you take that into account its still insane>Romania $225M/jet>Greece $215M/jet>Saudi $506M/jet
>>65518542The approval releases are so vague as to be completely useless to calculate cost per unit price. And they're released that way for a reason. They don't include the exact number of spare parts; number of munitions testing equipment; amount of anything, really - just that they're getting some amount of certain equipment and support personnel. Nor do they include all the support building like maintenance depots and the associated automated maintenance and spare replacement system; fuel storage areas, and fuel trucks; munition storage, testing, and refurbishment facilities; F-35 training facilities for pilots and maintainers, etc. We've been over this countless times over multiple years with you, yet, you continue to ignore these facts.
>>65518542Yes, the Gripen cost included the tech transfer. It's all dependent on what you want to buy. The more you want to do in-country the more it will cost.I can't find details on the Greek and Romanian deals, but if they acquired less support because of shared EU infrastructure it makes sense that the Saudis are throwing cash to get all the bells and whistles since they can't do a short hop to an allied nation.
>>65518354How many Shaheeds can u buy for 24.3 BILLION?
They canceled that Neon Line thing or whatever it was right? So they can afford it.
Greetings from south americaCan the US sell Chile F35s instead of gifting old F16s to Argentina and Peru and negating our best strategic edge and regional stability for no reason, knowing those two countries are vastly more unstable and eager to start shit than usThanks
>>65518480>cartridge actuated devices?????
>>65518480>>65518494>>65518505Anyone with even the most basic knowledge of the Saudis knows they always pay more for long term contracts for high tech items due to a almost total inability to preform maintenance tasks themselves, this is a nation that famously has hired laborers to clean the individual small arms of some National Guard units because the soldiers don't know how to do basic PMCS on their own rifles.
IRAN, YOU HAVE ONE JOBONE. FUCKING. JOB.
>>65518407>This. AIPAC spends less on lobbying than the National Association of Realtors.Yeah, except the National Association of Realtors doesn't have, nor need, an exemption from lobbying on behalf of a foreign power, which is illegal for all 200+ nations on Eartth but NOT for Israel (as well as being straight up illegal for things like campaign contributions).UK? Has to register as an agent of a foreign government, no campaign contributions.France? Has to register as an agent of a foreign government, no campaign contributions.Saudi Arabia? Has to register as an agent of a foreign government, no campaign contributions. (although our President being unimaginably corrupt and compromised means they can just employ his business. Totally not the same thing! Totally not the entire point of the Foreign Emoluments Clause).You worthless baboon. How dare you conflate the two.
>>65518657so what youre telling me is that if a saudi f-35 pilot leaves a skid mark on the seat, they wont clean it in house but rather hire an american contractor for 3x the price to do it?
>>65518354how long until the houthis shoot one down than?
>>65518407The issue is that AIPAC is a foreign agent but somehow not required to register. Also I find your claim about how much they spend to be unbelievable.
>>65518424>because they know Israel blackmailed us to bomb IranFTFY
>>65518732Not that simple but in all ways that matter yes. Read 'why Arabs lose wars' to learn more, we will do shit like spend millions translating technical works about basic upkeep and training Saudi Officers how to teach people to do those tasks and the first thing they will do when they get home is literally burn all the manuals. If you know how to make it function then you have power, if you teach others you lose that advantage. So you get armored units that look great on paper or parades but there is only one guy in the entire battalion who can calibrate the sights or even knows what the laser indexing system does and he will take that knowledge to his grave.
>>65518457>>65518470Shut the fuck up, you snaggle toothed pussy. Everyone knows your country is a bunch of fucking faggots who suck muzzie cock every opportunity and hate Whites.
>>65518497
>>65518354>selling our top-grade military tech to the S*udisMight as well email the blueprints to the Chinese at that pointUnironically a killswitch might not be the worst idea here
So the pieces of an F-35 are definitely getting captured at some point.
>the sauds are actually unironicly gonna get F-35Where does one even begin with this one? The fact that the sauds can't war for shit and that they're 100% gonna get one shot down? Or that it's only a matter of time before some aspect of it winds in in China's hands? Fucking hell I hate this timeline.
>>65518910>it's only a matter of time before some aspect of it winds in in China's handsWho's gonna tell him?
>>65518715Shills will ignore youI wont.
>>65518910>chinks will fail to reverse engineer 20 year old technologyOh no
>>65518424>Probably because they believe Israel convinced us to bomb Iraneveryone on Earth heard what Marco Rubio said
>>65518973The City of London is the root of globalism, the banker control, the carving up of the ME, the Iranian regime, and the problems in it today. Lloyd's Insurance of the City of London (tm), the Bank of England of the City of London (tm), British (Iranian) Petroleum of the City of London (tm), and Brent Crude of the City of London (tm) keep making all their money on their terrorist tax (tm) from these ME conflicts, and have since their shitty empire fell apart. Just like the City of London's (tm) using their Cayman Island, Panama, Jersey, etc territories in their shadow banking industry hiding the elites wealth behind trusts and trustees to launder more than $54 trillion in nontaxable assets and cash. They're just pissed the US is attacking their money and control source.
>>65518981You know, if you didn't invade Ukraine I'd cheers to that and say fuck England. However you're Russian so sadly I'll drink alone
>>65518981>>65518424Why are the vatniks so intent on starting shit about Britain in this thread? It ain't even slightly related to the topic.
>>65518981Replace London with Washington/Jew York and you'd have reality.Most of those bong corperations exist as US client entities.
What is the delivery timeline at this point? I get that they're just buying them as a bribe but surely there are better political choices at this point for unloved exports that prop up some swing-state towns.>>65518386I assume it will be like Egypt where they won't be allowed to buy useful munitions.
>>65518983>>65518988Literally not a vatnigger, and hate those low IQ disgusting mongoloid rape rat FAS having subhumans just as much as I hate you leftoid and shitskin subhumans. I would shoot you in your face for calling me a vatnigger IRL. Guaranteed I'm Whiter than both of you subhumans. Projecting and NPC name calling won't negate the facts of my post, though.
>>65518354>Half a billion dollars an airframe. Crikey
>>65518999Stop smoking dirty dick, you seething faggot. The City of London banking scheme is world known.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np_ylvc8Zj8
>>65519008You posted that entire image for me to just call you a stupid nigger regardless, shame
>>65519022Seething and ignoring reality won't make you White, my man.
>>65519014Ah, you are a retard. Got it.
>>65519032Not the anon you were fagging it up with, but it only white men can truly say nigger with confidence: which you lacked to do for some reason. Also, who the fuck posts their genetic ancestry on 4chan
>>65519038Because I'm not talking to a nigger: just seething shitskins and leftist tankie troons from leftypol. Prove you're a nigger, and I'll call you a nigger. I can call you a sandnigger instead of a shitskin if that helps you cope better?>>65519035>Let me just ignore reality and replace it with my American bad seethingYep, we have a leftypol troon seething again.
>>65518354this niggas are getting buck broken by khat chewing retards >>65518981>the carving up of the MEottomans did worse and Arabs can change the borders anytime they want
>>65519044>we both hate /pol/niggersThere seems to be some blue on blue here and for that I apologize
>>65519049>ottomans did worse and Arabs can change the borders anytime they wantSo, you admit Britain carved up the ME, and created Israel and the main problems in the ME today? Got it. Takes for backing me up.
>>65519014>>65519044Really weird how perpetually seething indians platform and fund documentaries seething about bongland.Look up pic rel.
>>65518542WTF are those broke(back) Greeks doing? They can't even maintain their existing aircraft. They have no real threats.
>>65519063Michael Oswald is a poo, my seething shitskin fren? Or is that just your way of trying to attack the source instead of the information within? We both know the answer, Mutthammed bin inbred.
>>65519063Most of the funding is US based "open society foundations" and the like, otherwise known as CIA influence operations, but I'm not surprised Indians are in on the usual deflection over the US and Chinese debt hegemon.
What is with the random schizo tangent going on in this thread?
>>65519077>Most of the funding is US based "open society foundations" and the like, otherwise known as CIA influence operationsMichael Oswald's funding is from US foundations and the CIA? Proof?
>>65519071Low IQ shitskin can't even realise this is the website of the guy he's shilling for, can't even realise the highlighted name and the quote is directly from a known poo shill.Grim.
>>65519069theyre bankrupting themselves by trying to match the Turks 1:1they spent over 3 billion on used/new Rafales so they could have the Meteor just for the Turks to buy the Eurofighter last year with the French approving the Meteor sale to them as well
>>65519084>>65519071>Michael Oswald is a poo, my seething shitskin fren? Or is that just your way of trying to attack the source instead of the information within? We both know the answer, Mutthammed bin inbred.Here's Michael Oswald's website: https://michaeloswald.net/Can you link me the exact page that your image is from? Or just link the website from which you got your screenshot? Also, guaranteed I'm Whiter than you, you projecting inbred shitskin paki.
>>65519097That's his personal website not the project website. You can find the quote yourself, jigger.
>>65518434Rip.
>>65519097>Giving 23andMe your DNA just so you can one up random internet strangers>Pre 2019Lmfao>The 23andMe data leak was a data breach at personal genomics company 23andMe reported in October 2023. The cyberattack gathered profile and ethnicity information from millions of users.Should I look up your name and address btw.
>>65519100Then just post it. Also, what, exactly does having a poo give a review prove? Well, besides your centuries long blood feud between you inbred shitskins and your poo brothers leaking into every post made on 4chan anymore? Keep your shit colored mutant blood feuds on /int/ and in your shitholes where they belong. I'm White, I don't give two shits about your shit colored subhuman infighting, so, stop trying to put me in the middle of it.
>>65519108I don't give two shits about 23&Me having my DNA, because if the kikes control everything like you claim, they'll get it if they want it. And two, my DNA information was never affected by the hacking and leak. Not like I'd really care if it was, anyway. WTF are they going to do, clone me? lol lmao even. Only seething shitskins care about DNA companies because it shows you to be inbred subhumans with shit genetics.>Should I look up your name and address btw.Please do, and post it.
>>65519119Did anyone mention kikes controlling everythingIs this a bot.
>>65519126>Did anyone mention kikes controlling everythingCome on now. That's literally all /pol/ talks about when mentioning DNA tests. Stop acting like you're ignorant, or that I am. Also, when are you going to post my name and address? I thought you were looking me up? What happened, shitskin inbred? I want a new fren to play with, my basement is empty.
>>65518445build with what?
>>65519129You're not on /pol/ anon.
>>65519057>the main problems in the MElol eslwho came before the british and had more impact?
>>65519140Don't act like you didn't come from /pol/ shitskin.>>65519160>eslNothing wrong with that sentence fragment, Mutthammed bin pakijeet. Maybe pay attention in your ESL classes next time.
>>65518354$500mil per plane w/o radars.but at least they threw in engines.
>>65519057>, you admit Britain carved up theyes but it was not and is not a big deal, abrabs only say it bad because white people are cucks who worship anti-racism, they can change it anytime they want. Ottomans and mongols did much worse and had longer lasting impacts>created Israel and the main problems in the ME today?yes which is why I always supported hitler, and even before hitler in his letters to Rosenberg he called Arabs a "coalition of cripples" but most middle eastern countries are too pussy to do anything and buck broken my ESL friend
>>65519181f-35s have radars you knob gobbling jeet
>>65519176so you're deflecting now
>>65519233have you read the press release you bongistani retard or is that beyond your abilities?
>>65519222>>65519236Post hand, outlet, and gun.
>>65519243>>65519239Seriously now, what's going on with this thread.
>>65519239would you care to point out where in the press release it mentions them having no radars?
>>65519243You must first post gun before challenging you fucking off board nigger
>>65519239https://www.defensedaily.com/apg-85-radar-in-lrip-northrop-grumman-says-f-35-program-declines-comment/air-force/
>>65519253NTA but thats not how it works
>>65519248Post hand, outlet, and gun.>>65519253I asked you first, Muttmet. We both know you can't, though.
>>65519257LITERALLY HOW THAT WORKS NEWFAGGOT
>>65519278Not a timestamped pic of your hand, outlet, and gun.
>>65519282>not timestamped>all the times in the imagePost yours you worthless noguns /pol/nigger
>>65518354Can't wait for these sandniggers to lose them to their cavedwelling cousins.
>>65519286Don't care, didn't do as I said. Your airsoi pistol is pitted to shit, too. Mommy's not going to be happy about you not taking care of your toys she worked hard to buy you.
>>65519301You can't even post a knife you sad little weaponless nigger.
>>65519311Oh, you're mad because your airsoi pistol didn't fool me. How sad!
