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i eat ass
First for fuck .40 Sissies & Women
>>65523798what's the deal with 40? it doesn't seem very enjoyable to shoot. someone redpill me on it
>>65523801the FBI got tired of paying for Servpro to come clean up the aerosolized internal organs and powdered bones of people shot with 10MM so they invented a caliber with slightly less kinetic energy than 9mm to be more acceptable for the modern era of policing
>>65523809FF would you take me shooting 10mm? I've never tried it before. Does it have more recoil than .45 supers in the 10mm underwood loads?
>>65523801.40 is born from 10mm short, the perfect duty load for police which was taking 10mm auto and reducing the load to balance recoil and ballistic performance. FBI had trouble with full power 10mm 180 gr 1300 fps loads, the training and qualification course was approximately 1500 rounds in 3 days - if you aren’t an amazing shooter you will have a lot of trouble after a mag or two. The downloaded FBI load which became 10mm short since they realized they didn’t need as long of a case for reduced load and they balanced the velocity to get good expansion and penetration from the heavier round. The heavier .40 round penetrated deeper/better through barriers and expanded larger than 9mm loads at the time (.40 still expands and penetrates better than 9mm, “9mm caught up” in performance is just justification for the cheaper logistics of 9. Calling .40 S&W short and weak or sissies and women doesn’t make any sense since it recoils more than 9mm and literally was dropped due to the rise of women in police forces and their inability to qualify with .40 S&W.
>>65523827>1500 rounds in 3 daysThat would suck.I have some carpal tunnel issues and my hand/wrist wasn't happy after shooting 200 in a night.
>>65523842I’m not super sure about that 1500 number but I thought they were just bitches after shooting a box or two out of a S&W 1006 but then I found out they were using the shorter 1076 and were shooting 300-500 full power rounds a day (I was shooting 1200 180 gr, which is a bit weaker).
>>65523827wow that's a lot of 10mm
Are Holosun lights any good? What about rovyvon? I have a tlr and can’t stand the toggle. Surefire switches are better.
>>65523809Every time you post /k/ get less and less fun to visit.
>>65523850>I was shooting 1200 180 grMore or less same. Put a few bear and defense loads through but mostly magtechI know it is their job, but it really doesn't sound fun
>>65523850They are bitches though. The 1076 was a 4.25 but still a full steel frame. Soft hands and bad technique killed the 10mm adoption.
>>65523879But without him, where will we get our objectively fucking awful advice, such as “I have never seen a precise shooter slap the trigger”? Who will mislead our newfags if “father figure” fucks off forever?
>>65523822>Does it have more recoil than .45 supers in the 10mm underwood loads?I don't think my recoil comparison would be valid considering I've shot the majority of .45 supers out of my MK23 outdoors at steel and 10mm out of my glonk 20 indoors on paper, but I would consider 10mm less pleasant than 45 supermaybe next time I'm at the range I'll make a direct comparison video, it'll be a month or two before I can compare them on a spinner>>65523879sorry chef, i'll do better next time, chef
>>65523912sexy grips on the beretta.
>>65523896Yes, but shooting 300-500 rounds in a day isn’t a cake walk out of a 10mm. I’ve done 450 rounds of Magtech 180 gr JHP in a single sitting.
>>65523924
My support hand shifts a lot with some guns when I fire a bunch of rounds, usually with subcompacts. Any advice?
>>65523912I was shooting the .45 out of a friend's shitbox so it was pretty rough, I'm sure it would tame down in a Mark 23 (jealous btw)
>>65523934You could try changing up your firing hand grip to give you a bit more space for your support hand, but it’s probably a lost cause. Subcompacts just do not lend themselves to grip durability like compact/full size guns.
>>65523934Clamp support hand to your dominate hand’s fingers rather than trying to get purchase on the gun with your palm, use your dominate hand’s fingers as your anchor and push your support hand palm towards its fingers rather than trying palm to palm.
>Rippetoe/hg/ is a conjugate general
>>65523949>>65523953Will give a try, thanks.
It's not Sunday yet but I have a confession:I still pull the trigger slowly and let it surprise me. Everytime. Sadly, I'm the best shooter I know, even including LEO and military friends, and I suck compared to most people in /hg/
>>65523961I'm getting conjugal with FF
>>65523801It only exists because 10mm Automatisk filtered DEI agents at the FBI so .40 S&W is how you signal that you're female or a minority.>>65523827>expands and penetrates better than 9mm
>>65524024I like shooting .40 s&w
>>65524024Wound volume is larger than 9mm, I would say better expansion. What’s the velocity on the 165 gr? The lighter weight .40s are usually the low recoil loads, unless they’re 155gr loads loaded pissing hot for maximum velocity. 124 gr +p vs 165 gr is a skewed comparison of high performance/pressure vs a downloaded lighter recoil .40
>>65524024[spoiler]/k/ I'm a minority but I like 10mm more than 40[/spoiler]
>>65524035Tourist spotted
>>65524035are you a white minority or the usual type
>>65524035
>>65524037[spoiler]but it's fun[/spoiler]>>65524038what the fuck is a white minority?
>>65524041>white minoritya faggot, a tranny, a rhodesian, an afrikaner, white englishman, do I need to list more?
>>65524045oh. no, i'm not white. or gay... or am i?
Talk me out of CCing 22 wmr
>>65524041Slavs.
>>65524052Do it, it’ll be super interesting and we’ll love hearing about it.
>>65524048fuck off we're full
>>65523905Don't forget other bangers like the "everyone uses their optic to rack the slide"
>>65524052Do it, it’ll be super interesting and we’ll love hearing about your death in the paper
>>65524027Me too
Let some people shoot my PX4 compact with red dot, comments were >I need to get a red dot >shoots very nice >are you sure this is a compact?
>>65524045Are there still Rhodesians?
>>65524072if you have to ask if its compact, its not
>>65524080>>65524072Is the px4 compact compact?
Open carry should be mandatory for every man, woman, and child.
>>65524032Probably not enough of a difference to make a difference.>velocity on the 165 gr?Around 1100 FPS.>skewed comparisonI'll research further.>>65524035https://youtu.be/gG7Dm14Y7wE?t=81
>>65524115I have long fantasized about opening a restaurant with pistol racks at every seat to both show off your gun, get it out of the way of your gut as you eat, and make it technically legal to drink
>>65524072I don't have a dot on my PX4 Compact but I have let many, many people shoot it at public ranges and I almost always get "Are you sure this is a compact?" or " I'm surprised it doesn't have more recoil"
>>65524136Is the rotating barrel really that good?
>>65524148Yes >>65524080It was more that it shot like a full-size
>>65524122Temporary cavity is meaningless. Otherwise we’d all be carrying pissing hot .357 Sig that creates a temporary cavity so large that it causes combustion when it collapses
>>65524077Probably, those bastards are hard nosed. I love their accent
Didn't shoot here but found some spots that I can in the future. Going to my regular spot tomorrow.
I came to the realization that I love all my handguns due to 1) sentimentality 2) customization and/or 3) they're naturally rare. I would be devastated to lose any of them in a SDU.I need a shitty handgun that I can carry that I don't mind if it's taken away like a Taurus G2C or a PSA Dagger or a Sig P365
>>65524201I would actually be really sad if I lost my px4 compact even though it's not an expensive gun
>>65524024>+P
>>65524205This is why you need to be PX4 maxxing
>>65524214I'm jealous.
Second draft of october challenge. Added yardage and slightly more permissive time limit. Thawlts?
>>65524201And then you start getting attached to the shitty "disposable" handgun over the years so you buy another handgun to take its place. I'm on the fence about buying a Ruger RXM to be that gun and to finally have an optics ready pistol, but it mostly seems like a gunsuming purchase that I don't really want to buy and shoot.
>>65524258I should get a horde of ruger security 9s lol
>>65524252I'll print it at work this week.
>>65524252Is this scaled to print on normal 8.5x11?
>>65524252You think I’m made of toner?
>>65524252You got a black and white version?
>>65524071Ugly gunBad jap beerBad girlBad caliberAnon, get you're shit together.
>>65524220nigga, you gay
>>65523801Well FBI wanted 10mm for some reason, and wanted S&W to make the guns for it (2nd or 3rd gen number slop models) all the ammo the FBI was ordering was downloaded from original. S&W was failing their contract numbers, and the 10mms they were sending all mostly sucked ass and kept breaking, S&W the saw how weak the FBI 10mm load was and figured they could shorten it to ~9mm OAL and still get the same velocities the FBI were getting, so they made 40S&W, and then tried making more of their shitty guns for it. FBI figured the 40 was smarter. But canceled the S&W contract because they're 2nd and/or 3rd gen number slop guns were absokute dogshit and wouldn't run and kept having parts failures.The same time at shot show Gaston himself, who no one really knew by looks, saw S&Ws booth and they're announced 40sw and took a single bullet sample and produced the G22 before S&W could bring any of their 40s to market, and the FBI went with glock in 40sw for their official service weapon, even though for years before and after FBI ballisticians put out multiple reports that best case 40 was round for round no better than 9mm, and at worse it had penetration issues compared to 9mm and 45. But where the FBI goes, most LEOs go, so the 40SW became the most common caliber in law enforcement by a slim margin, and where LEOs go civillians go.But even before the FBI replaced the 40, LEOs started switching to 9mm and overthrew 40, then the FBI dropped the 40 and nearly all other LEOs did the same.On the civillian market it didn't die right then though, as the market was flooded with surplus LEO 40sw trade in for pretty cheap.But today it's pretty dead, again best case is round for round no benifit over 9mm, it just has less rounds, but in reality it has more recoil, so you will shoot it slower and or less accurately, it seems to have worse effect on humans than 9mm or 45. It seems to suffer from penetration problems.
>>65524252I'm still late for the red coat challenge? Still have my printed targets in my car!
>>65523827The FBI never ordered "full power" 20mm loads, there's were always downloaded from the start, when S&W saw this they figured they could shorten the case, get the same perfomance for cheaper brass in smaller handguns
>>65524354I have a crumpled up salinas one in the back seat but I always forget about it.
>>65524214The only cool one was the sub compact, and like anything cool and good beretta makes, they discontinue it.
>>65524356how did they figure out to download the Norma 10mm spec if they never bought it?
>>65524346It has nothing to do with his appearance. Just a time saving method
Did you shoot your gun today?
>>65524376No, had to work today.
>>65524366They told them they wanted x weight at x velocity. Normal released the higher velocity stuff to the public, FBI never issued it. They may have tested it I dunno, but they never issued it to any agent.
>>65524330You’re a huge faggot in every way
>>65524214Damn I've only got two
>>65524412From what I was going off was based off a couple sources, I think vicker’s 1911 guide book had a blurb about 10mm short being related to FBI testing at quantico, and something else. They must have trialed Norma 10mm and ran agents/instructors through it from what I remember
>>65524430Also the problem was the guns, they thought lightening the load would decrease the S&W parts breakages, but it didn't.
>>65524428Do you have them set up differently?
>>65524382Cringe!
>>65524376Yessir.
>>65524252maybe make the silhouette just be an outline, and the background white as well so there's more white?
Speaking of 10mm, zeroing my dot on my g20 last weekend, the head shot was from draw after I felt good about the zero.
>>65524452This.
>>65524376Nope, going tomorrow.
>>65524454Nice.
I need to not buy another handgun and instead keep practicing with what I've got.
>>65524514Honestly, I'm at a point where I have all the guns I have always longed for (that aren't borderline unobtanium) so it feels kind of nice to only buy ammo/mags/upgradesStill want to get a nice American 1911 though
>>65524529Fugg, I want a 1911.
>>65524534The problem is wondering who to go with. I'm kind of leaning towards Ruger or Smith and Wesson. Colt is owned by the Czechs and Springfield isn't the original Springfield.
>>65524534Same>>65524545I might pickup a tisas with a rail if the barrel fit isn't too lose then replace the internals.
>>65524534
>>65524556Sample size of one but I took a Tisas and put a EGW National Match (has the number on it and built to NM specs) and the bushing fit on it was so tight I had to wrench it on.
Anyone ever hear of the Grand Power K100 or X-Calibur? Rotating barrel and actually optics ready unlike the PX4.
>>65524589I think we were talking about it last thread?
>>65524568Love a tight bushing
>>65524545CZolt stuff has better QC than the shit Colt was stamping out in the late 2010s
>>65524594I wasn't here for that
Ah Jaysus, Mary and Joseph, lads.I’ve been sat here with a drop of the good stuff lookin’ at this board again and I’ll say it plain: Burt and ppanon should’ve been together. That’s the pairing the Lord himself put on this earth. One of ’em a great fat mountain of a man with a safe so stuffed it groans, pistols fallin’ out the door, half of ’em with them ridiculous blue frames like he bought the whole cerakote shop in one go. The other a wee twink knockin’ about with a 1903 Hammerless like it’s a rosary. The contrast. The banter. The “I’ve more guns than sense” meetin’ the “this wee .32 is all a man needs.” That was real, so it was.But I’ve made me peace with it now. I’ve resolved meself. It ain’t happenin’. The fat fella’s married to the pile and the lad’s married to that little hammerless pocket pistol and that’s the end of it. I won’t be howlin’ at the moon about it anymore. What’s done is done. I’ll not be the sad eejit still writin’ essays in 2026 about two anons who were never goin’ to share a range bag.So enjoy it while it lasts, ye “it could never work” lot. Enjoy it. Because when this board turns on ye, there’ll be no savin’ ye. Faith, there won’t.Anyway. I’m off to have another. God bless.
>>65524609I was unaware burt was into twinks
>>65524545The Savage 1911 models look rather nice. They even have updated models with pic rails if that's your thing.
>>65524613He skins and eats them. He almost got me but I catfished him with pictures from highschool before I got fat from drinking so we just hung out at the range
>>65524589I need to do a little more research on them but I kinda want a K100 or Q1
>>65524589The K100 MK23 specifically are the versions of the K100 that are optics ready. It's a full size.The P1 MK23 is the compact version of the K100The P1S MK23 is the subcompact version.
>>65524617I'll fatten up too
>>65524437One in 9mm with the LTT trigger pack and the grey ghost flat trigger the other in .40 barebones. Actually think i like the stock .40 better
>>65524589I have a P40L in 10mm. I don't think the K100 is optics ready, and neither is the X-caliber. I'm still kicking myself for not trying to outbid $500 of a mk12 x-cal.
>>65524589Slovakian garbage, avoid at all costs
>>65524634Sick. I'm really curious how shooting 40s feel with the px4. Goddamn it, I need to buy it now, don't I
>>65524636The auction I'm bummed about
>>65524626Oh, I wasn't aware they made the optic ready for the MK23 models. I know they changed the operation system by way if how the barrel rotates, but neglected the other improvements of the new version.
>>65524638Don't buy a .40
>>65524650Anon just needs to tell me how it feels compared to the 9mm px4
>>65524638Bro get on gunbroker. You can get a compact.40 for sub $250. And yeah its a smooth shooter. I was genuinely surprised. Honestly i thought the px4 was just fucking typical hype that happens when autists on the chans get focused on whatever the hot topic flavor of the month is but nah the px4 really is dope.Still think I'll throw the ltt trigger bar on the .40 buti don't feel like it needs much
Is getting a handgun with a rotating barrel signalling?
>>65524625I talked about wanting a Q1 in a thread a few days ago. I kinda want a striker fired pistol just to have one, and the GP Q1 is a compact version that might be carryable.
>>65524656Somewhat. The watch is a bigger tell
>>65524659P1 MK23 is the Q1 frame using the hammer fired rotating barrel setup from the K100 (same barrel length as the Q1 too)
>>65524656I'm putting my watch on my right wrist as we speak.
>>65524653I've never heard anyone before talk up the .40 PX4 Compact before this Anon, especially not PX4anon. Also buying guns in .40 is just retarded in general
https://grandpower.eu/products/product-categories/pistols/9x19-luger/p1-mk23/vshttps://grandpower.eu/products/product-categories/pistols/9x19-luger/q1/
>>65524666
>>65524671I suppose if you found one like $200 cheaper than 9mm then maybe snag one for the lulz, but yeah.Also do they still make a 45 acp px4? Or did cuckretta kill it off like everything interesting they make?
I'm mad global ordinance discontinued the LP9M. I was looking at both the LP9M and P40L and bought the P40L first, expecting the LP9M to not go away. When I saved up enough to go back and buy the LP9M, the store page is a 404 error.
>>65524659The word "compact" has lost all meaning these days when it comes to firearms.
>>65524659>compact version that might be carryableEver since that video of that guy conceal carrying a mk23, I believe any autoloading pistol is conceal carryable
Dude, we were almost free, the px4 storm was dead, the sub compact was discontinued, the other models were selling just a few dozen units a year, it was almost over.Then LTT and beretta partnered up, and paid TFBtv for a positive review, and now here we are, px4 storm spam non stop
Definitely don't buy anything in .40 because anonymous cocksuckers on /hg/ say you shouldn't and their opinions matter because well .40 just is dumb and stuff okay?
>>65524665I like the aesthetics of the MK12 models more, and I have a gut feeling that they're manufactured better than the MK23 models. I think the Q100 is the same size as the K100, not the Q1.
>>65524698If you don't already own a good 9mm, then yes don't.If you do, and want to add to your collection, then whatever
There is a good chance someone told him not to get a .40 and he ignored them
Should I shoot .40 out of a G40?
This place has become such a troll filled shithole
>>65524711Should you?Probably notCan you?I've heard you can, never tried with my g20, because why?
>>65524712Twitter is better place for discussion of any sort compared to 4chan desu
>>65524712>says the biggest troll of /hg/
>>65524697The PX4 (Storm Compact Carry 2 G) is so lauded because essentially it's lightning in a bottle. For decades, people wanted a gun that shoots like a full-size but is light and concealable. The Glock 19 essentially IS that gun but the PX4 not only has features that a lot of people want (hammer, DA/SA, decocker, fat mag release, fat slide lock, non-Glock sights lmao) but it shoots significantly softer making follow up shots a breeze. The PX4 Compact 2, out of the box, is the best compact conceal carry piece on the market today. If you don't believe me, just try itAnd you're a faggot if you buy one in .40
>>65524727The px4 storm flips so much more than a glock, thanks in part to its sears tower height bore axis.Those "features" you claim are considered flaws by anyone but the most retarded noguns/newguns
>>65524412>They may have tested it I dunnoOnly for the most preliminary testing, according to John Hall himself:>Samples of commercially available 10mm ammunition were>acquired and preliminarily evaluated as to suitability for law>enforcement use. The high chamber pressures generated by the>commercial loadings, with the resultant heavy recoil and muzzle>blast, tended to offset the otherwise excellent performance of the>round. Therefore, the FBI Firearms Training Unit decided to>create a new loading for the 10mm, one with velocities com->parable to those of the competing 9mm and .45 cartridges. A 180>grain hollow point bullet was acquired and handloaded to a>velocity of 950 feet per second. This loading not only matched the>velocities of the other two cartridges, but it also dramatically>reduced recoil and muzzle blast.>In the absence of factory ammunition built to the desired>specifications, the 10mm rounds initially subjected to the test pro->tocol were those handloaded by the Firearms Training Unit staff.>Subsequently, factory-loaded 10mm ammunition was acquired>and built to the desired specifications, which actually met or sur->passed the performance of the handloaded test ammunition.Lots of info in the article, definitely worth reading: https://leb.fbi.gov/file-repository/archives/november-1989.pdf
>>65524252These look good anon.
>>65524252>>65524761Color version. I like the B&W because it looks more like dawn of the dead.
>>65524749Counterpoint: there are almost zero cool-looking 10mm guns even if it's a cool cartridge
>>65524272I was going to hold off on making a pdf until final revisions were done.>>65524307Should be, yeah.>>65524325Would you accept grayscale?
>>65524778the bren ten but thats a collectible now
>>65524781Why did I get a smaller version when I printed mine?
>>65524778
>>65524778>cool looking gunsYNGMI
>>65524452>>65524460How's this?>>65524761>>65524762Thanks for being the beta tester anon.>>65524786Maybe your printer settings did some scaling because it was a png? I'll make a pdf when all's said and done. That should make it more printer friendly.
>>65524798You're welcome. I work late so I was able to do this at work.
>>65524778Not a Tanfoglio/EAA Witness fan? I think they're pretty cool, though I don't own one in 10mm.Not trying to suggest P320s are cool, but I'd rather post guns that are mine than guns that aren't.Rechambered the .40 barrel and converted a couple .45 mags, back before they came out with the X-Ten. If the grizzlies ever show up down here, I'll be ready for them.
>>65524831I have an older friend who is extremely knowledgeable/skilled with firearms and he is my expert on 10mm. For years, he used to EDC a Colt Delta Elite that he put thousands of dollars into. Now I believe he's sold that and uses a custom M&P 2.0 for most of his competition and shooting. He tried a few Tanfoglios and said they were finnicky.
>>65524589They're quirky but pretty good. They used to be very cheap, but despite zero ad presence, exposure or widespread use they aren't anymore
>>65524839All colts, especially the deltas are bad, almost certainly will have to send it back to colt/a gun smith several times. The M&Ps in 10mm have always sucked since launch, and all the M&P line as been sucking ass for the last 1.5-2 years.
bring back 25 acp
>>65524841>Century ArmsHoly moly, is that a MK6?
>>65524848shouldnt a tanfo run okay for 10mm? IDK i only fuck with HK and swiss SIG these days.,.
>>65524884Show me a good looking .25 ACP gun. Protip: you can't
>>65524902Just make a 1911 in 25 acp, problem solved
>>65524902
>>65524923Ugly as sin
>>65524894Mk7 I believe
>>65524923Ugly and not practical
I want one
>>65524781What if you made the zombies white and the dots black?
>>65524932For what
>>65524938To shoot the man who killed my father but it turns out he was my father.
>>65524902I hate the NFA.
I'm thinking about buying a Kimber. I never thought I'd have these thoughts.
>>65524163>>65524211Overpressure .40 S&W is very impressive but the terminal ballistic shortcomings of 9x19 were addressed 20 years ago so it remains practical and tactical like 5.56x45.Have a good night, everyone!
>>65524958They've really turned things around since Cerberus went kaput
>>65524954No one here likes the nfa
I bought a CZ 75 D Compact PCR and Zastava M57 this week, feel free to mock me for my taste in handguns
>>65524969You get high points on the CZ-75 but low score for the Zastava so it equals out to a "meh"
>>65524969Shit tier and trash tier.KYS troon.
>>65524969Love me the 7.62x25 Tok round. Good acquisitions anon.
>>65524934I tried white zombie on white background, but the zombies blended in too much and it just looked like a bunch of bullseyes.
>muh traininghow about you just point it at a dude and shoot? a first grade GIRL knows how to shoot a squirt gun effectively with zero training. You're wasting your time. Every dollar spent at the range is a dollar you could have spent on alcohol.
>tfw no printer
>>65524923I like it :)
>>65525056>tfw I have a printer, but I'm not printing out that dumb shit
>>65524961over penetration, useless. wasted energy
>>65524964Yeah, I know. But when I think about the Lercker or the American 180, I just gotta say it.
Anyone know if the m9a4 d-lahhh mounting is substantially worse than the ltt optics cuts? Haven't looked into it since the m9a3 when it was worse.
Butt, you already probably checked it out but there's an auction on proxibid ending in about 7 hours that has a lot of cool shit for dirt cheap, including a few Radoms
Sorry for the autocorrect on the username, it wasn't intentional
>>65525093The plate is held in by less screws (2 x 4-40 vs 3 x 4-40 + slight anti recoil dovetail + peg, Dlahh uses threaded aluminum posts which are more fragile then LTT’s steel removable T-nut inserts - overtorquing a LTT will cause those to fail which means parts replacement, doing so on a Dlahh will need to replace the entire plate, I haven’t checked for years but last I remember Dlahh made a thicker taller plate as his super low one was too fragile Personally I’d rather go with Eleven 71 design’s titanium plate instead of paying 100 dollars for an aluminum cope plate from a redditor
>>65524659Shit I might pick one up next month.>>65524666>>65524664lel>>65524671>>65524698If I find one for super cheap I'll pick it up just to see and then get made fun of by my friends and /k/ hah. I have the compact in 9 and I quite like it.
I’m not among the people who have been talking about .40 lately, but the discussion kind of makes me want to grab a cheap .40 like a px4.Mainly because I think it couldn’t hurt to have another caliber for more shooting availability when things are scarce. The next reason would be that it’s simply fun and good practice to shoot more guns.It would also be a gun that I could take camping and fishing and not feel bad about treating kind of rough.>just get a cheap 9mmIf somebody say dis dey bout to get slapped.
>>65525501jus- nvm
>>65525501Just get a 9mm niggaIt will never go scarce. If you're that scared abiut availability get 1k rounds for like $200 something every paycheck
>>65525506You’re logically right but something about having another gun in another caliber just feels right.If 5.7 wasn’t expensive I’d be looking at it for sure.
>>65525515NTA but it does feel satisfying to check off having a gun in each caliber.
>>65525515>You’re logically right but something about having another gun in another caliber just feels right.Then why not go with .22LR? Or .45 ACP? Hell, go with .357 Mag. It you're gonna shoot another caliber, might as well have as different of an experience as you can get
>>65525520I currently have 2 serious handgun calibers, 9mm and .45.I have a Ruger 22/45 mk II .22LR as well.
Any good resources on suppressors for a g17? How have your experiences been with it? Wanted to run a suppressor on a g47 with an sro and x300
>>65524923I can't believe I fired this gun
>>65525539Wouldn't recommend it desu. I put an Octane 45 on my G19 and it was awful and gassy. Dunno how well low back pressure cans work with handguns so ymmv
>>65524645>>65524589There's apparently issues with the optic plate for thesehttps://www.reddit.com/r/GrandPower/comments/1s95rsj/anyone_else_having_problems_with_the_k100_mk23/
I cleaned my grandpa's gun and needed a punch to pull the slideAll of mine are toolless disassembly. Is needing tools common?
>>65525661Never hurts to have a punch set for more in depth disassembly and swapping parts, but I think almost everything is toolless for field strip? Unless I'm wrong. What gun do you have that needs a punch to take the slide off?
I just realized I don't own any full size handguns.
>>65525688Man up
>>65524452This would be perfect if it had the more flat, blacked-out slides like on a vintage one. I don't know why they remade every part custom then reused the stock modern rear sights. It seems 97% of the way there.
>>65525697Whenever I get a 1911, that'll be my only full size lol.
>>65525669Hi point c9 was his
>>65525713Why the hell does your grandpa have a hi point?
>>65525661>>65525669Some guns have a VERY tight disassembly pin at first. Either recoil gradually loosens it up by the time the first cleaning/disassembly is done, or a punch has to be used in the first takedown. Sometimes guns advise using the base of the magazine plate as a makeshift punch tool to push it out too.But it's rare that an external tool is considered necessary for merely taking the slide off>>65525713Explains a lot lolhttps://youtu.be/HiSemcczBvU
>>65525723He bought it like 25 years ago and has passed down in all his other guns. He just keeps that in for home defense It doesn't feel great but it is a fine gun. First pistol I ever shot as a kid and it has gone through thousands of rounds
>>65525752They’re not bad guns in that regard desu I was just expecting a 1911 or something
>>65525780All his guns were the cheap and cheerful variety. He shot all the time but wasn't into guns
>>65525817>He shot all the time but wasn't into gunsHonestly, big respect. What other guns does he have, if you don't mind sharing?
No matter how large of a manufacturing complex, how good QC/QA can be, and how efficient the manufacturing processes are; a polished shit is a polished shit. What you put in is a good indicator of what you get out, and I can scarcely think of a company shoveling coal into a high quality engine than modern day SIG SAUER.
>>65525819He had a taurus judge and a high standard revolver and some 30-30 lever action
>>65525501If you are at least a little smart then you can plan ahead and the whole scarcity thing will never affect you. That’s not a real problem for people who stock up ahead of time. The only reason you will be out of 9mm and have to use your .40 is because you didn’t buy enough 9mm because you were buying .40.
>>65525853Lol nice
What is your favorite compact that ISNT the px4?
>>65525936cz
>>65525938p01?
>>65525936Px…Damn
>>6552593692
I went to the gun store "just to browse"Any guesses?
>>65525950Guesses on what?
>>65525950HK?
>>65525952What I am waiting to walk out with
>>65525954Since you're acting like an insufferable faggot, a glock
>>65525954Ruger rxm?
>>65525954Probably a CZ. Going in “just to browse” is signaling.
>>65525954The employee working the counter
>>65525953>>65525964>>65525966>>65525973It was a ruger mark ii target but apparently my state has a 3 in 30 days limit so I can't walk out with it LOL
>>65525974I wish. She is a qt
>>65525975>my state has a 3 in 30 days limit so I can't walk out with itLmaoo. Good to have a 22 at least.
>>65525975CT?
>>65525975Cucknifornia?
Going to send my 92 off to get cut maybe next week. What optic should I get? I only have experience with the EPS and enjoy it, but recently I've been trying not to buy horosun
>>65525981Yeah
>>65525940Yeah or the one without the rails. They look so much better like that.
>>65525988I was going to ask, how many of you guys ccing have a wml?
>>65525975I hate those bullshit laws so much. It’s literally just a nuisance.
>>65525987Only applies to handguns. Walk back in there and get a long gun, faggot.
>>65525995All the rifles I want are way more expensive >>65525993Yes. This state has very shitty laws for guns
>>65525985EPS plate should fit RMSC optics so Romeo X Compact, Steiner MPS-C, Eotech Eflex CE, Vortex Defender CE (the small one)). etc RMR plate and an SRO is the correct choice since the round optic housing matches the curvature of the slide
>>65525976Girl at a gunstore??
>>65525985Can never go wrong with a RMR, longest track record of being reliable out all the optics on that list, ACRO is also a good option.
>>65525975What other 3 handguns did you buy this month?
>>65526014A glock 43, zastava m57, and I think cz 82
>>65526052>g43Gen 6 I hope since every ffl is pussying out of selling them after October 1st.
>>65526052Pretty fun choices desu. I love the cz82.
>>65526056Not him but what?
>>65526056Delta said they would process transfers for Gen 1-4 no questions even if they won't sell them so I can still buy shit on gunbroker and still get it
>>65526062I love the 82 a lot. One of my favorite shooters The m57 I have to figure out the sights to adjust because it is hardly on paper. Feels nicer in the hand
>>65526063Connecticut has a “Glock ban” starting October 1st. I forget what they were going after. Something about a convertible trigger or the trigger bar? It only applies to Glocks manufactured after October 1st I think, so it doesn’t really accomplish what they were going for? There’s also no military/leo exemption in the law so hopefully every ffl tells the PDs to eat shit when they need a new gen 6 lmao.
>>65526083It is so vague and poorly written nobody even knows what's going on and it won't stop niggers from getting switches for their already illegal guns
>>65526083You mean the generation of Glock meant to DEFEAT the usage of the infamous Glock switch is being legislated out of market in Connecticut to prevent new production Glocks (already intended to not be convertible) from being converted, leaving only the old gen "problematic" Glocks that WERE convertible in proliferation?And to think Connecticut was one of the original 13 who ratified the original Constitution as it stands with the original Bill of Rights.>>65526088AYYO dem socioeconomic factors be tough man!
>>65526093It's funny too. The Gen v guns for regulations basically only have this little plastic tab you can dremel off and put in a switch
>>65526093Yeah you’ve got the gist of it. It’s a clusterfuck. Everywhere is struggling to keep gen 5/6 on the shelves right now. Some stores are saying they won’t touch any glock gen, some are saying they’ll still deal with xyz like >>65526088It’s so fucked up. https://legiscan.com/CT/text/HB05043/id/3436379Here’s a copy of the bill.
>>65525973>Probably a CZ. Going in “just to browse” is signaling.I wish I had good local gun store where I could browse and impulse buy, instead of seeing the same overpriced guns on the shelf for a year and nothing but P320s and M&P's in the used case.
>>65526148>tfw 2 decent stores near meI feel spoiled sometimes.
>>65526100>>65526105Glock wasn't really doing it to comply with anything. They were doing it as a fig leaf to dump a bunch of models they didn't want to make anymore since old man Gaston finally died. Gaston didn't want to limit the calibers or sizes that he was willing to sell, but the objective of chasing ever-greater profit demanded cheapening, so here we are, the greatest excuse that could be asked for.The V series weaned people off expecting the full lineup in gen 6.
Oh I'm just browsing
>>65526170 and >>65523827 are directly related
Browsing is definitely a form of signalling
If my guntuber vid isn't dead silence with torque wrench clicking cuts then I'm not watching
Stoeger never said that target focus and sight awareness have to share centers which fucks your vision if you attempt it in poor lighting with mechanical sights. For dry fire, I have that shit teed up like golf: target focus (red) above sight awareness.>>65526083>trigger bar?State Glock bans have "cruciform" in the language to reference the sear shape but Glocks and derivatives have it integral to the trigger bar so you'll see that in the legislation too.>>65526083Yeah, the anti rights agenda is both evil and stupid.
>>65525068>over penetrationThe gel probably isn't calibrated.
>>65526148Yeah every large store near me is an hour away
Imagine if the death penalty was dealt out with firearms still. Imagine all the ballistic data we'd have from executions using different bullet types and calibers; sponsored by ammo companies themselves!
>>65526286There's like under 10 executions any given year. Ukraine is doing what you want daily
>>65526297Which is an issue with legislation imposing upon the judicial process
>>65526303I'm not getting into politics with you. You're obviously too young to be here
>>65523782Pima pistol club is not a big range, lol
>>65526199The G23 did make it to V; .357 SIG and .45 GAP are the only calibers that didn't make it at all.(Good choices, really. You can just as well sell the last dozen .357 SIG fans a .40, and let them pick up an aftermarket barrel. As for .45 GAP? Yeah. .45 GAP.)FWIW, they do still list most if not all the same gen3/gen4/gen5 models on the LEO page:https://us.glock.com/en/products/law-enforcementBut that includes the G24, which I'm pretty sure they haven't made in years, so I wouldn't read too much into that as to what models actually remain in production and/or have parts availability.
>>65526329Two hour drive northwest of there is the largest shooting range in the country, pic rel
>>65526463Too much range for you sonny
>>65526463You need 50 meters of berm to catch all your stray shots
>>65526463>lead poisoning a natural mesa
>>65526494Where should we shoot our guns then????
Imagine driving out to Ben Avery to shoot 60 rounds of 9mm and then leave
>>65526502>>65526463
>>65526467>>65526479>>65526504I'm the only anon that attempted the Salinas drill (two rounds, five seconds, 50 yards) while everyone else coped at 10.Only hit the target one (1) time but that's still more than anyone else.>>65526497You'll have to forgive anon, he's legally blind and didn't notice the sand heaps shielding the foothills.
Strong side Israeli carry >>>> Glock leg
>>65526530
>>65526530ive started israeli carrying my single action revolver but I also have to carry on an empty chamber. So now I only have 4 shots but at least im safe
>>65526530I appendix carry when I browse
>>65526578That is what the safety notch is for!
>>65526530There's really no excuse to carry without one in the pipe unless you're at like your nephew's birthday party or something
How do we modernize the revolver?
>>65526600https://midwestindustriesinc.com/product-type/stocks-braces/revolver-stocks-braces/
>>65526600We did in the 1890s, it's called a semi auto.
>>65526600Even if we ignore how the last decade of firearms marketing has forced ammo capacity as the single most important factor, you still have to overcome the fact that 15 years worth of new gun owners refuse to learn how to shoot a double action trigger. The revolver is already as modernized as it's going to get.
We need a 15 round cylinder
>>65526600Sealed cylinders like the Nagant, rails everywhere, native RMR cut, threaded barrelsOffer that new revolving cylinder design as a rifle too
>>655266226 rounds is enough
Any body know a good holster for appendix carrying a Glock 22?
>>65526052>>65526062My cz82 is probably my favorite gun I own. Be careful with the MFS surplus ammo though, I had several case ruptures in a single box.
>>65526671You never know when you can be dragged into an extended firefight in a walmart or mcdonalds parking lot
>>65526687cz82 was the first gun i ever owned. I sold it a couple years ago but for $200 at the time (2012 i think) couldn't beat that deal.
>>65526687I've never had that happen. What is the end result of that? Just tough to extract by hand?I only shot 5 boxes of that ammo, but really enjoy it. The sound is like no other ammo I have. Is that because of the lighter projectile?
>>65526600We remove the cylinder and make it feed from a box magazine with a spring We leverage the pressure and recoil of the first shot to cycle the action instead of having the shooter cycle it manually
>>65524376I shot yesterday
>>65526708As I shot the cartridge, the magazine would be forced out of the gun. There was no issue with extraction, but this is what the cases looked like.
>>65526676Anything that a 17 works with. Nerd makes decent kydex holsters for AIWB
There's not one but two $500 B80s on gunbroker ending in 2 hours
>>65526775Not interested
>>65526775Damn, that IS a sweet deal. Unfortunately, as much as I love THEATTIC I'm still trying to cobble my pennies together to win another auction from them so I can finally have a spare CZ-75 Pre- B maghttps://www.gunbroker.com/item/1194236670
WIsh me luck on this bid, bros. Unless you're also bidding for this item, then stop bidding immediately and let me win. Please.
>>65526795>currently 68 whole dollars for a magCZfags are insane.
>>65526821S&W 1006 mags are like 200 dollars each
>>65526821yeah i used to be a fan, had an 82, a stainless 75b and an original 1978 short rail. Then realized i was retarded and cz is gay. Im an HK fag now.
Guns still worked.
>>65526825Yeah HK mags are way cheaper
>>65526846My backordered ones get here Monday and they were $38 each. Not too bad but I could go for some $25 mec gar mags.
>>65526846the pistols also dont break and dont need fitting for barrels and they dont have dogshit CS
>>65526620Needs a cocking spring you wind up with enough energy to overcome the hammer spring 6x after you reload, then it recocks the hammer every time you release the trigger.Don't worry, we'll put a trigger dingus on it to keep it safe.
>>65526600Long stroke piston auto revolvers with nagant actions
Shoot with one or both eyes open?
Thoughts on the S&W SD9 2.0?
>>65526989None wtf?
>>65526989Both eyes open and focused on the target, dominant eye has aiming solution in the light path.
>>65527008Same. I started lining up my shot then closing my eyes and aiming with vibe
>>65527013If there was something wrong with this then explain how I hit the target most of the time?
>>65526600Top break with pic rail, optic cut, and threaded barrel.
>>65526989Aim with both, close them both when you pull the trigger
>>65526373>The G23 did make it to VThinking about Glock 23 V now. Who's buying those?
>>65527055Who is buying any Glock Gen V, honestly
>>65526989Both eyes open, you will lose some accuracy with irons I have experienced
>>65527070People in CT
why are these little guns so fucking sexo? I had buyers remorse at first when I bought it a couple months ago but now goddamn these are so shootable and feel great
>>65527087I think they look boring desu, but half the guns on the market today look meh
>>65527087why were you having buyer's remorse?
>>65527087It's a lot of gun in a small package.
>>65527097>why were you having buyer's remorse?I was considering two guns at the time, I actually just ended up buying both guns but as i took the Shield to the range I began to love it.
>>65527105What made you think you wouldn't like it? Or were you just afraid of missing out on the other gun, btw what was the other gun?
>>65526083I'm happy with the lobbied legislation that's actually going to break Glock's memehold on the market. Make it too big of a pain to get a Glocky and it'll finally be Taurus's time to shine
>>65527115: (
>>65527110thought the ergos were a little weird at first but all the S&W M&P guns are just kinda thin like that. Doesn't really cause any noticeable issues with grip while shooting though. The other gun was a USP 9. Two totally different guns obviously but that's just how I shop for guns, I never follow any specific guidelines I just go based off of what seems cool and fun to get next.
>>65527124Fair, glad you got both in the end. Good stuff.
>>65527075WHY ISNT THERE CHEESE LIQUID ON THE ZOOMER FLORETS
There's only 3 more handguns I want and then I think I'm free from wanting new purchases forever.
>>65527157What’s the point of taking something healthy and smothering it with cheese
>>65527231And then you see a Woox furniture AK
>>65527274>wooxCringe
I can't buy an AR in my state since 2023 and I'm real sick of it.
>>65527278Apart from your shitty stock and pistol grip, that's not too bad.>>65527285Even if they weren't, an AR wouldn't be your EDC anyway.
>>65527274>>65527278I do need a nice AK. FUck. I was onl thinking about handguns.
>>65527264Cheese isn't unhealthy. Unchecked eating is.
>>65527274The fuck is wrong with ak guys?
>>65527310>need a nice AKYou're 12 years too late.
>>65527316I'm 12 years too late for fucking everything, it's fine.
>>65527315They never recovered from the Obongo years>>65527319https://youtu.be/auLopgsgJ_s?t=83
>>65527278>>65527315Get some taste zoom zooms>>65527310I was in the same boat a few months back
>>65527326Not a zoomer and I won't be lectured on taste by someone who eats shit.
>>65527329You have no guns, you do not shoot
>>65527326>was in the same boatBut then you realized there's no real point to an AK in the 2020's?
>>65527334I have guns and I shoot more than you.
>>65526742Meant for >>65526715
>"Yeah dude this devilishly handsome man showed up out of nowhere with a Woox furnished akm and smoked the nig stabbing Bobby, he was like 6'7 and had a visible bulge running halfway down his thigh. His watch was on his right wrist too dude, he mumbled something about white pride and disappeared into the fog"
>>65527339>every firearm must have a reasonable needcucked mindset
>>65526600Interchangeable cylinders. Instead of reloading one by one, you detach a spent cylinder with a loaded one. Makes reloading more efficient.
>>65527354>I'm not going to shoot with my AKGunkoPop mindset
>>65527359>projecting in 2014+12I shoot every two weeks with a buddy of mine and I would love to make him an akqueer
>>65527357What if you made it so each “detachable cylinder” only had one round but was in a large cylinder containing many “detachable cylinders” perhaps a rectangle, that would feed each “detachable cylinder” into the chamber. The gun would automatically detach or eject each spent cylinder and feed in the next
Is there such a thing as too much capacity? If you could cram 100 rounds of 9mm into a pistol, would it be worth it, or would the pistol become so heavy it becomes too much of a burden to carry?
>>65527357Niggas never heard of moonclips.
>>65527354>>65527359>>65527362What the fuck are you two even arguing about jesus christ
>>65527364Then you'd lose the reliability inherit in the revolver design. That's a big selling point for the wheelgun, it doesn't jam.
>>65527383https://youtu.be/thY1F6f92Xg50k rounds, 12 stoppages
>>65527378I mean, that idea is really just complicating the speed loader. I do think it'd be faster to replace a spent cylinder with a loaded cylinder as opposed to using a speed strip.
>>65527362Let's see your PSAK cope.>>65527381Good AK's don't get shot with anymore because the surplus and imports are gone.
>>65527395Sure but it's a lot harder to manufacture than some bent sheet metal and a spring.
>>65527381Jeets get angry when guns are brought up on the weapons board
>>65527405Agreed, but it would be a modernization of the revolver, for better or worse.
>>65527419Oh right I forgot what the conversation was.
>>65527365I can't ever imagine needing more than >15(+1) rounds in gun on my right hip >Two spare 15 round mags on my left hil
>>65527264To make something that tastes like shit not taste like shit? Just not to excess. It's like coffee, most people actually have taste buds so black coffee tastes like cigarette ash, causing most people to dose it with a lil cream and sugar. But there are also Starbucks foids who go apeshit with 27-pump sugarbombsThe point is bare broc is ridiculous, just eat handfulls of lawn clippings at that point
>>65527654My favorite meal is at Longhorn Steakhouse. I get the strawberry lemonade and then I order the Parmesan Crusted Chicken with two sides of broccoli. The excess melted parmesan cheese I wrap in the broccoli to make it even more delectable You should try it some time
>>65527585I meant more in terms of a single magazine. At a certain point it just becomes too cumbersome to realistically carry.
>>65527585I would unironically carry a mag on each ankle toobut I have a revolver so I need to get more revolvers
>>65526600carry more revolvers
>>65527264It'd be healthier to ditch the potatoes and smother the broc with cheddar. Strive for the lowest carbs possible
anyone have an M&P 2.0 Carry Comp and have shot a Shadow Systems or other comped/ported Glock platform?
>>65527931I've shot both as loanersM&P CC + Apex Trigger >>> Glock Platform. It's not even close
>>65527979M&P get pretty mad decent after replacing half the parts
>>65527986I dunno about that. The Apex Trigger is already way better than everything but a Walther trigger, and they're pretty close. I think just dropping that into a stock Smith is all you could reasonably ask for. The Carry Comp internals are the same, perhaps polished better.
>>65527986People say this about every gun. >Glock is good just upgrade everything>Beretta is fine bro but get the LTT TJIAB>HK triggers suck you gotta replace them>Look at all shit I changed on my CZ!>No one talks about Walthers
>>65528000I'd rather be very good with an extremely common gun like a stock Glock or Beretta than godlike with a $2500 gun
>>65528000Lol truth nuke. That said I love my stock berettas. Also walthers are usually sex
>>65528019I love shooting my Beretta 92 gts. Easily my favorite hammer gun I own.
>>65528000No one cares about walther
Don’t need to upgrade parts on a revolver…
>>65528000I like my walthers
>>65527809Carbs are good
>>65528143that's how .22lr kicks for me
>>65528147
>>65528110Love the slide in pictures, hate it in person
>>65528000The reason why all those guns suck out of the box is because they're designed so the lowest common denominator who becomes a cop/milfag doesn't shoot his dick off. Sig designed a striker-fired duty gun with a light trigger and no manual safeties and we all know what happened there.
>>65528201>They suckThey are the standard. They get the job done.
>>65528201The entire genre of handgun shooting this thread enjoys the most was >designed so the lowest common denominator who becomes a cop/milfagcan do their job
I expected his pick would be a D-class grifter like "Commander" Dale Brown or some other instructor with a dubious military-background. He instead listed political commentators and culture warriors. I had thought his subscriptions to Jordan Peterson and Majority Report were relics of his youth but it seems 2014 never ended for Ole Ben.
>>65528353Ben is one of those hyper-specialized people that turns into a total retard when you try to talk to them about anything but their specialization. His shooting advice is pure gold, but that's where his usefulness stops.
>>65528371So he's a shooting savant? Yeah, that makes sense.
>>65528125Carbs can be good, but you need to keep it to 20g per day. You are not toiling in the field like a peasant with no other options. Eat protein and fibrous greens
Just make a new thread so the conversations can start again.
>>65528589Be the change you want to see anon.
>>65528595I’m on mobile, sorry. Too much work.
>>65528589You mean the shit posting, right?
>>65528589It's quite obvious that ne'er-do-wells coordinating on Discord or SIGNAL keep sliding /hg/ off the first page.
>>65528642You suggest they're signalling?
>>65528642>SIGNALQrd?
>>65528796What is it with you and buzzwords?
who bake new bread
>>65528812The message app of choice for neo leftists
>>65527157>>65527264Unless it’s paired with other specific veggies, I’m with Burt. Brussels sprouts do much better than broccoli if you’re doing some kind of diet, just use oil and garlic salt and you’re gtg
>>65528816You anon! You can be the next /hg/ OP who is absolutely, totally not wearing a watch on his right wrist.>>65528847Brussels sprouts take more prep than broccoli though. My strategy is rip.thr florets from the stem, put them in a mixing bowl with a few tablespoons of olive oil, shake some seasonings on them, toss, and roast at 360° for ten minutes. Only thing I have to clean after is the bowl.
>>65528847I drink my coffee vantablack and I eat salads without dressing
nu thread>>>65528919>>>65528919>>>65528919>>>65528919
>>65528393>but you need to keep it to 20g per dayKetofags always try to act like their weird way is the only way and not just the way they chose.
>>65528869Based. A tablespoon of oil has the same calories as a can of soda. People might as well eat a bag of chips with how much stuff they put in their salads.
