Firearms for the collapse of civilizations.
Mainly USA collapse
>>65526840Glock 19>>65526843If the US collapses, the world follows, look at 1930, 2001 and 2008.
I don't want to live in a world without fruit by the foot.
Handgun. Concealable but large enough to accommodate WML and optic for overmatch. Get really good with it from 0-50 yards. Develop good instincts. Planning, evasion and de-escalation are your friends. "SHTF" will not be warfare. If you think you're going to be running around in ""kit"" with a rifle you're fucking retarded. I cannot stress the handgun part enough. If you've never shot live fire from a concealment holster, never used a shot timer, or never shot beyond 7-10 yards you should be VERY worried about how far behind the curve you are.
>>65526868Look at all that useless crap on an otherwise serviceable weapon lol.
>>65526868>trex arms pic You're an enormous faggot who probably doesn't own any guns worth posting.
>>65526868I love when people mention shit like this but never mention where they’re getting this constant supply of belted ammo from.
>>65526926where does everyone else get their 5.56?
>>65526863>a world without fruit by the footDo you mean Fruit Rollups?
>>65526867OK, Taran, back to the buffet
>>65526840you'll find 12 gauge in desk drawers and gloveboxes decades after everything else has dried up
>>65526979Those too, but FBTF are different, although similar.>also gushers
Why are there so many threads about some collapse? I don't watch the news paper anymore.
>>65527004diesel is almost $7 dollars, that uhh . . . means we're going to have to eat our neighbors soon i think
>>65527004Typical alarmist trash, it'll die down after the midterms
>>65527007>means we're going to have to eat our neighbors soon i thinkAll my neighbors are indian…
>>65527019cook them "well done" jej
>>65527004You should've been here in 08-09
>>65526840Glock, AR15. Your survival will be decided by general reliability and availability of ammunition, not if your rifle is 2MOA vs 1 MOA, or if it's 0.16kg heavier than with a different esoteric rail.
>>65527069as long as you have a few hundred rounds for whatever gun (probably even less realistically) you will be fine, even if it is oddball. even more realistically you wont fire a shot at all. even MORE realistically SHTF will never happen and you will just have to spend more money in your day to day life
>>65527114>pic>subtle cuck fetishpottery
>>65527114>interracial cuck fetish>random AI pick of zelenskybrown zigger nonsense
>>65527114>bait image>bait posti reply
>>65527133kikes are brown, so your quotation is accurate
>>65527133Israel and Russia are allies and Israel is a backdoor intelligence asset for Russia. Most Israelis are brown and support Russia, the same as troons
>>65527171ntawhy do you act like both putin and zelensky arent jews
>>65526867Not everybody lives in a city.
>>65527290ok, buddy
>>65526907trex arms is based ever since they kicked out that "i don't like training civilians" faggot twink lucas.
>>65527432nice one
>>65527456good job
>>65527290>he thinks changs economy is removed enough from americas that it would even thrive without itlollmao
>>65527512Any "collapse" in America will be 1000% worse elsewhere. The US is virtually self sufficient, everywhere else isn't.
>>65526843USA is the heart of the world economy retard when America goes the rest of the planet goes with it and that's a good thing.
>>65527290Reminder China couldn't keep lights on in a third of its landmass for half a year after a single coal deal with Australia went bad.
>>65526840Glock 19 handgun, Maverick 88 shotgun, & a BCM mil spec ar-15.
The hard part about gun maintaince is mostly primer, figure out how to make an automatic work with battery(you can make yourself using 1800 books) and it should be all fine and dandy.Shotguns should also be there with stuff you can maintain for years along with revolvers.If you have the training that is, best youll manage afterward is a blunderbuss made out of scavanges pipes and firework
>>65527019>All my neighbors are indian…Raid their pantries for spices.When you're cooking them, do a child first but make sure that the parents and ideally grand-parents are present, add some spices and tell them what kind of curry you're making the grand-kid into.They'll correct you and do it properly and you'll get an excellent Arjun Madras.
>>65526843>herpderparinoWhen the global UST-founded-default-reserve-denomination debt market implodes, so go all 160 nations worldwide. No escape
>>65527902buy an ad for your slop book
>>65527621Cool story, bro.
>>65527911>triggeredIt's not about that book at all (and I have hundreds of other illustrative economics images and graphics to upload) Dumb Fuck. [Btw for any book all anons should first consult the free public library] Its title though does happen to have direct relevance *to what eludes (You)r comprehension* hence my having done so here.What's satisfactory is that when the credit freeze occurs your vacant skull ilk will be the first to vanish
>>65527902this place is for guns and killing ourselves.get the USA faggot paper work outta here!
>>65526840I've been saying this for years and I'll say it again here, when industrial society goes cordite goes with itWith that in mind, the obvious answer is black powder rifled muzzle loaders, which are the most effective firearm that can be mass produced without oilNow there is a question here about flintlocks vs more developed designs like percussion caps or needles, but that will come down to what kind of chemistry knowledge has survived in the local area
>>65527923buy an ad instead of shitting out your deluded garbage across the website, fag
>>65527941>muh websiteGet off of *my board* pledditard underage brainetand Stay off
>>65527944lol i knew it was robert seething and shitting himself in the shadows again.
>>65527946>more of the /k/ stalkerWhoever (You), schizo, think made that post, it / I'm not Robert.Get off of our board (You) do not belong hereor we'll remove you forciblykek
>>65527948oof, prime robert melty
>>65527949so tell us who this heckin robert isIs he in the room with us rn?
>>65527333checked
>>65527100checked, generally agree>MORE realistically will never happenI'd disagree.
>>65527953yeah, he's mad he gets spotted this easily
>>65527036that was the heyday of nutnfancy (and others)
>>65526858Luckily we have China now
>>65527615Was 40 years go, not today.
>>65527935>when industrial society goes cordite goes with itFirst enough ammo already stored.Second US going down will not stop Bulgaria and China from making ammo.
>>65526858>US collapses, the world followsit's more about the US-(monetary)denomination global system collapsing, but yesMost people such as fp itt instantly gravitate to 'y-yea muh USA gonna gobyebye' and that's not exactly the full scope of what'll happen, worldwideA credit freeze would be extremely rapid propogation of effects/impact(s) too. I'd predict everyone in the globe's most populous/dense urban areas dead or dying within daysshtf prep won't even help most
>>65527935you'll only survive long enough to make use of home made black powder if you're already living self sustained life style pre-apocalypse
Did another rocket crash into a Chinese town?
>>65527983maybe for you, but I've been stockpiling knowledge on pre industrial techniques for making everything from steel to soap, my plan is to sell access to that knowledge to communities in exchange for goods and services neccessary for my own survival
>>65527973A total collapse of the USA means most of the world is probably in similar straights, or at least very not good ones.
>>65527412still not seeing any of your guns, fag
>>65527996you will be enslaved or get eaten
>>65526858>>65527290This. Better the Judeo-US burns and the world has to adapt through a decade of tough times - with freedom ahead - rather than languish under satanist pedophile controlled global hegemony, egged on by mouth breathing third generation goyswine amuricans.
>>65527228So you currently, at this moment, have a 100% self-sufficient homestead? Power, water, food, shelter, comms, all taken care of? You have no reason, ever, to go to a place where walking around with a non-concealed weapon would draw tons of attention to you and/or get you killed on sight during SHTF? Is that what you're saying, anon?
>>65527290
>>65527948He sounds like the same guy that was shitting up that mp5 thread
>>65528085no one enslaves the traveling wise man, not if they want their water filter/nitrate bed/blast furnace to work
>>65528087ffs Anon
>>65528109This has been done before, though. Not saying it's guaranteed to happen, but don't pretend like in a total SHTF there won't be people who want to on call at all times if you are actually useful.
>>65528087the 'accelerationism' retardation (and also the 'muh 4 turnings' giga-retardation) has been proven incorrect a few decades ago, and also earlier than that by TK's writingsTHere's not going to be a 'cultural decay' *propulsion avenue* for an implosion of this systemCulture degeneracy and decay is the *byproduct* and second-order effect of the inherent economic/financial corruption of the industrial society itself.It's like watching the paint job and interior of your car deteriorate, and hoping fingers-xx'd that will stop the engine from functioning/running
>what is the firearms related consequences of AMERICA VERY BAD AND GAY FAILED STATE 250 YEAR EMPIRE HEDGE MONEY OVER
>>65528132 It's firearms for the collapse of civilization, and you immediately say it's America and then you assume that it's a conspiracy people to make America look bad. Are you just like scooper schizophrenic or what. It's a thought exercise normally you get people say hey maybe you should post a musket because you can make your own balls. Or other people will be like oh no a high point and high point pistol that's way to go it's just a thought exercise it's fun you schizophrenic person who thinks a bunch of brown people are trying to destroy America using the power of this board.
>>65526840in the long term, your best bet is probably a flintlock, but to get that far you're going to need way more than a gun
>>65527996Going the history man route, well you’ll survive, but you’ll basically be a slave to whatever warlord captures if you don’t piss them off first.
>>65528396any normal person would just say "best wepon for shtf??" but no, OP says collapse of civilizations, on the boads where bricoids spend all day boasting about the fall of america.
>>65528429Are you say America is the only civilization? And also nowhere to the same any current civilization. So you can literally talk about swords
>>65528504>Are you say America>Are you say
>>65528087Think you could squeeze a few more buzzwords in
>>65526867>handgun for SHTF>handgun for 0-50 yards You don't shoot.>>65527515>The US is virtually self sufficientNo we are not we import a great deal
>>65526996>12 gauge in desk drawers and gloveboxesJust like the video games.
>>65527963The chinks aren't gonna do a damn thing. They're going to let everybody starve and die and then starve and die themselves in the best case scenario for them. In the worst case, they'll be killed by the US trying to save its system by instituting one global government, by far the more likely outcome.>>65527978Its not going to for at least another five hundred years. We're in our transition from Republic to Empire, from here on you can count on being ruled by that monetary denomination system directly as the US simply conquers any nation that won't play ball and assimilates its resources and lands to save itself. Not a thing anyone can do except watch, hence all the bitching on our Sudanese Underwater Basket Weaving Forum.
>>65528547>not going toDid you even read the post replied to?Nobody even cares about the United States anymore. It's all about China now, geopolitically and every product in all Walmarts across America is made in China. The 'collapse' if - when it happens is the global *monetary system* aka debt system.That system is founded on debt which is denominated in UST aka 'the dollar'.No, the 'collapse of the dollar' is not just solely exclusively related to the U.S. gov and treasury becoming insolvent-----thus-----end of America (which yes if the global debt system implodes would be 1 but far from the only result),it's about the entire global financial system collapsing. That is the point. It's the end of the yellow brick road, rnfor all 160 nationsnot just the United States>five hundred yearskek the global debt (bond) market isn't going to last another five hundred days
Why are chink spammers so incapable of being subtle.
>>65527004Wishful thinking. If the world collapses they won't have to see why everyone around them hates them.
>>65527019Hope you like curry and spicy mess masala
>>65528533Just because you can't hit shit at 50 yards with your pistol, doesn't mean others can't. Retard.
>>65526840bolt action or straight blowback.
>>65527948What’s this “we” shit? You have a mouse in your pocket?
>>65528581lack of imagination
>>65526840Kalash
>>65526996I found 2 old 12 gauge shells in my quad from like 5 years ago. I'm sure it's the same in every farm truck in north America. Same with 22.
>>65528576>believes thisWait until China gets turned into glass. Fucking retard.
>>65528581>>65529717>>65529279Ask the psycho schizo that think he can identify individual /k/ board users by their 'typing'>"we"Who the fuck are (You) nogunz? go back to discord pleddit whatever phonefarm you drifted in from/k/ (with a microscopic size userbase)has the largest Dunning-Kruger delusion of all 4chan Get out
>>65530291>muh ChinarrinoWow am not shocked that the brainlet doesn't understand what's postedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt-to-GDP_ratioidgaf about China and they are going to be the first nation to implode when the global debt market collapses (btw China is in an even worse debt and toxic assets predicament than the U.S.)But (You) don't have the skull capacity to comprehend what's written in the English language or these topics at all whatsoeverfucking hilarious that all the /k/ NoVa (and Tel Aviv) fat slob cubicle shills sound exactly like 1950s-80s 'muh eebilll empire' brain dead morons, dinosaurs from half a century ago updated for deez 21st century internetzthat does work on the under-50-IQ npc crowd, many such cases
>>65527004If civilization collapses, I dont have to go to work tomorrow.
>>65530337You didn't have to work during the 2020 never-before-in-human-history global lockdowns of activity
>>65528826You don't shoot you have no idea what you are talking about. 99.9 of shooters can not hit anything at 50 yards with a pistol
>>65526840AR15Glock in 9mm12ga shotgun22lr rifle
>>65528111More like, if you want to fix your condemned rotten house with a caved in roof and a bad foundation, you might as well finish the job and burn it down so you can build a new one
>>65530337Note that in most disasters, if you aren't displaced or directly affected by the fighting or whatever, you still have to go into work, but you now have the risk of your communte being delayed by getting shelled.
>>65527877That shit will blow your arm off just use steel tubing rated for high burst PSI and nest them together with a threaded cap and striker made out of a nail or something to slam fire
>>65531177Even hardware store "black iron" is good enough for modern 12ga so it would be plenty for that electrically operated black powder muzzleloader But yeah a four winds shotgun is better, no shtf scenario is happening where we run out of 12ga
>>65527935just buy a few thousand rounds of ammo and it'll last your entire lifetime if you don't waste it target shootingbut maybe you just enjoy collecting gallons of piss to extract kno3 from
>>65527983Alone in the Wilderness is great
Everyone talks about Glocks but other good handguns for SHTF are 1911s, Beretta 92FS(M9), and ironically P320sIf only because the Military probably has tons of the 1911/M9 in storage and the P320 is the US military handgun right now
>>65531602owning the same caliber the military uses makes sense but there's no point in owning the exact gun>but parts availabilityif you are looting guns from the military you can just keep the gun instead of using it for parts
>>655316021911 are well known to not be reliable while also using a less common cart and holding very little rounds
>>65530337>>65530812>What do you mean your neighborhood is currently the frontline between the loyalist state forces and the insurgents!? YOU LAZY FUCK! I came to work with a blown-off leg, my car is shot to hell, and I got full-blown AIDS! And yet you don't see me bitching and slacking off work, HELLO!? SPEAK THE FUCK UP, ANON. I CAN'T HEAR YOU WITH ALL THAT GUNFIRE IN THE BACKGROUND
>>65531695You have to admit, if your boss is that resilient, he's going to survive
>>65530293>helmettard having another meltykek
>>65531635Source?
>>65531635Listen bud, 7 rounds is better than nothing and .45 ACP is out there.Also the 1911 has been around for exactly 115 years.We are as far away from the year it was invented as it was from the presidency of George Washington.There's going to be a lot of them out there.Yes you should look to get Glocks, 92FSes and maybe M&Ps or P320s, but there's plenty of 1911s
>>65532113not your bud, pal
>>65531635Who the Fuck things a 1911 isn't reliable?Have you ever even held one?Seriously, the dumbest thing I've read today. And 45acp is one of the easiest rounds to handload.But the best ends of the world gun is what you can find ammo for, everywhere. So 22 and 12 gauge. Everything military is going to dry up, fast.
>>65531893People who work in a SWAT team irl ex military members internet forums. Take your pick>>65532113No reason to get one there is a sea of reliable double stack 9mm pistols everywhere>>65532202People who shoot a lot>And 45acp is one of the easiest rounds to handload.Who gives a fuck >Everything military is going to dry up, fast.Yeah the most common calibers with the most factories pumping the ammo out with the military police and gun shops stacking all NATO rounds to the brim are going to be the hardest to find.2 world wars are over boomer 1911s are a relic. Single stack .45acp lol lmao
>>65532281Have you considered diversifying your calibers?I have at least two guns in .40 S&W, 9mm, and .45 ACP.You never know which kinds of ammo will be more common in your area.
>>65532281>people who shoot a lot >1911 is unreliableYou're a fucking child who's never shot a gun in your life; opinion discardedAnd yeah, the military and cops are going to burn through their ammo like America just burned through its missiles. You obviously don't know any zogbots, either. As to OP: Whatever the Fuck ammo you can buy cheap and stack deep.If you're counting on picking ammo up from people who 'don't need it anymore', just fucking kill yourself already. You're not going to make it in the real world and better than you're making it here.
>>655325139mm is more common in every area>>65532621Why did they stop fielding the 1911 dipfuck? Why are 2011 so much money? Hmm
>>65530450Not op. I worked that whole time. 2 jobs
>>65532656>Why does the army request new designs so it can spend more money>Why do governments always have ever increasing budgets>Why do taxes always go up>why is it always more, more, more money getting siphoned from me to (((them)))Yeah, a child. You have to be 18 to post here junior. Get back to pleddit where you belong
>>65532695Still using ARs globally in the great 2026. 1911 are not up to par as a matter of fact yes ive talked to people who use them for a living shoot them a lot and say that have more issues than glocks etc. Dan Wesson and other high end 1911 can be reliable but whats even the point.
>>65526840Deeeepends. What stage of collapse? What faction? And what do you intend to do with it?If you are a city dweller, and you want to stay alive the longest…you can either enjoy the exclusive club of camo men holding the machine guns. Or you are the boot licker who is best off making covert weapons for whatever resistance, gang or mob boss you can gain favor with. Being friends with the 20 men you supplied with high points and obrezs is better than owning one gucci contraband rifle. If you live in a rural area in a small community. You want as much firepower as you can get your hands on. Sky is the limit. You want as much magnification as possible. All so you can deter outside aggression, and hunt big game to feed your smallfolk. If you are a loner living on your own. Weight is EVERYTHING. You are trying to get from point A to point B discretely. Only use a .22 for killing small game. You are the scavenger, the pelt trapper, the bee keeper, the fisher etc. You are the little man that supplies the bigger folks with goods. Carry only what you need to get the job done.
>>65532718>what's the point of using the tried and trusted man stopper in its tried and trusted original form I'll tell you what, you go take 2-9mm to the leg while you're wearing armor and then take a single 45 to the leg and get back to us. People stopped using the 1911 because people have turned into inaccurate limp wristed pussies that need 17 rounds to do what they used to be able to do with 6.It's the and reason they went back to 9mm after the 40s&w after the 10mm: people are now and (until we get back into hard times again) forever gay.
>>65532730Not him. but 9mm hollow points have made .45 ball ammo obsolescent in terms of lethality. .45 ball is heavy to carry and expensive. The fact I can choose to go deep into lethality with shreaders or go wide with the cheapest ball ammo is the selling point for 9mm. Same goes for rifle calibers too. .223 being sold in 55 grain for bulk and 62 grain for precision provides a quantity and quality factor that can’t be found in stuff like .300 blackout or 7.62x39. 9mm and .223 is the gold standard for versatility. Sorry boomer.
>it’s another retards preparing for a collapse that isn’t happening episodeKek
>>65532760Yeah? Where are you getting those 9mm hollowpoints?I'm in Canada, on the prairies, and I would have to drive 500km to Edmonton to find 9mm hollowpoints. Rn, sure, but hp? No. I can get 45acp everywhere that sells ammo. But if we're talking about the end of the world, 22 is the only way to go. You can got almost 100 in a tin of breath mints, carry 1000 like it's 50 9mm, and no ammo is more available everywhere on the planet. 9mm and 223, especially in Europe, are unobtainable to the plebs.Whatever, you're points are good, but you're missing the point of this semantic argument, and I'm going to bed.
>>65532783You of all people should know the importance of stocking up on goods. When times get tough and supply lines degrade, you won’t find anything at your little supply store. Even .45. So get the good stuff when times are good. Even if its 500km away. I don’t really disagree with your point on the utility of .22. But I think people overhype the need to carry 1000 rounds worth. Yes its comes in a small size, but it still a fuck ton of lead to carry. We still live in a time of abundance where you can stock up multiple lifetime’s worth of centerfire ammo on a moderate salary. But yes, if the world truly ended, the man with 10k hidden away of .22 will fair better than the man who is out of 12 guage after a few years of bird hunting.
>>65530296>noooooo>ignores all reality Debt is nothing. Cry fucking more.
>>65528034>A total collapse of the USA means most of the world is probably in similar straightsNo it doesn't, especially in the short term. In a long term supply of high tech goods and systems like micro chips may suffer but these are long term goods you can use a computer or a smartphone for decade.
>>65532818Debt literally biblical and leads to slavery or bloodshed
>>6553282380iq ESL
>>65526858>If the US collapses, the world followsAnd if the US (dollar) doesn't collapse, the world collapses. The US is too big and fat to sit like an effendi and eat forever.
>>65532864He's not wrong. The US doesn't produce much, and nothing the world can't get by without. It's entirely supported by financial coin clipping and loans from your great-grandchildren (Mexican-Chinese-Americans).
M16A4 with the full 20 inches and none of that pussy bullshit. Will drop anything like a sack of rocks and is easy to maintain.
>>65532823>>65532868The US goes and half of China will literally eat the other half, retards.
>>65532868So do it. Go on, I'm waiting
>>65532823>>65532868you're forgetting that the US is one of the biggest agri exporters in the world, and one of the biggest providers of food aid: according to the 2025 Global Report of Food Crises, between 2016 and 2024 the US provided 50% of the world's food aid (the remainder overwhelmingly coming from other western and west-aligned nations), as mentioned in page 18 of the following link:https://www.fightfoodcrises.net/sites/default/files/resources/files/GRFC2025-full.pdfnow consider that this document's discussion of affected regions is merely the places already struggling with food insecurity in the current status quo; a US collapse and the resulting drop in food supply would result in rising food prices at best and shortages at worst for much of the developing world
>>65532770>trust me bro er'tins fine
>>65532922Based digits
>>65534882Everyone on earth is a client of the United States. This means the economy of earth is functionally one system, and if you remove America, the entire global economy shits itself and half the planet kills itself. Not that that's a bad thing, but it's not the scenario non Americans cope and dream about.
>>65537959>it's not the scenario non Americans cope and dream aboutthe funniest bit is when thirdies gloat about wanting to destroy the US/the west, like the cartoon gag of someone sawing off the tree branch they're sitting on
>>65532818>triggered, the IQ decreases with each new postU.S. 10-year yield shot up 30 basis points just in the past weekHalf of the U.S. Congress-approved $2.2 trillion annual budget instantly goes to Interest Payments on the debt and that proportion gets larger the further into $41 - $42 - $43 etc. trillion the magnitude of national debt gets. U.S. Treasury reaches total default four years from now at these spending rates; the global debt market won't last nearly that long (why? Because the entire global system relies on worldwide confidence and assurance in solvency of U.S. treasury and USD, it's a debt-based economic model with all of its asset markets, transactions backed by nothing but collective belief and confidence)
>>65538329>Half of the U.S. Congress-approved $2.2 trillion annual budget instantly goes to Interest Payments on the debt
Interest Payments on fedgov national debt now vastly exceed annual discretionary spendingAt these rates of spending and the recent magnitude growth of national debt, U.S. Treasury reaches total default four years from now. And as said, the global debt market won't last nearly that long.Global debt topped $255 trillion in 2019, $307 trillion in 2023, and $350 trillion in 2025, almost four times the amount of all global economic output. Public debt—sovereign debt of governments—in 2026 comprises ninety-four percent of the entire global economy; IMF predicts in three years that reaches one hundred percent. World governments soon will owe as much as the entire global economy produces in 12 months duration. Total debt levels and deficit spending of the past 30 years has eclipsed that of the past several centuries of western civilization, and absurdly low and negative interest rate borrowing costs have incentivized national governments to no longer borrow on the expectation they will repay, but rather the expectation that they will refinance.
>>65528087>thinking they'll give any of us a graveWe'll all be in /k/ubes if they get their way.
>>65526843Looks like Yurp wants another war, and we'll be sitting this one out from a position of power, just like we always wanted. What then?
>>65528092This is you trying to fit everybody else into your fantasy.
>>65526840during the collapse? anything you can get hold of, but post collapse? it would depend on how easy is to maintain them so the list would be in order of less complex to more:>Flintlock>Cap guns>Break actions >Pump actionYou can make black powder very easy and all of this types of guns can use it but you need a spark and for that flintlocks just need a piece of flint and youre readdy but the other types i listed are more complex since you need a primer to initiate the shooting and if you dont know chemistry or dont have the components then you are fucked
>>65541526>make black powder very easyI work in the oil and gas industry, and even I would have trouble sourcing the ingredients. >sulfurYeah, you can find it in piles at terminals or old fashioned H2S scrubbers, but those are hundreds if not thousands of kilometers away, and you'd have to know where to look. >KNO3Good luck. Ordering it puts you on a list. And trying to make it the old fashioned way takes time, even if you have the knowledge, which no, you don't>carbonGood for you, you can light a fire and collect the ashes. You're at the technological level of a literal cave man.
>>65534882>https://www.fightfoodcrises.net/sites/default/files/resources/files/GRFC2025-full.pdfLooking at this countries list i dont see ammo exporters.
>>65528543>Just like the video games.Kind of just like real life, honestly. I went to my local steel supplier once to grab channel, it's a three man op so you have to call in advance to make sure someone's there. I show up, and Ed (the one guy I talked to on the phone) is missing. Lights are on, doors are open. There's a box of 12 gauge shells smashed open on his desk.I waited around for like fifteen minutes before I left, all pissed off. Later learned Ed had seen a turkey run out into the yard, didn't want to miss an opportunity, and just happened to have a shotgun in the truck and a box of shells in the desk. At work. He kept a box of turkey shells in his desk at work. Specifically for that rare potential event.There have also been times when I've found a loose 12ga shell in my brother's car, or in my dad's workshop. I probably have some in some desk drawers. They have a way of showing up in strange places.
I find it funny how Americans seem to think they are a 1st world country yet many people here seem to genuinely believe that it will collapse into a Somalian style free-for-all within their lifetimes and that they're going to need body armor and night vision to survive.
>>65541915We HOPE that it'll collapse into a Somalian style system, so we can watch you traitors to humanity get what you deserve. Just take your boosters, that way you can go up the chimney like the Fully Burnt Offering you're meant to be, instead of in the trench we make you dig with the barrel of a gun in your ribs.
>>65527004Pretty much everything keeps getting objectively worse with zero signs of getting better, so people are wistfully hoping it'll collapse instead of the boring reality that life will just keep slowly getting more miserable and they'll just get used to it.
>>65541951Here, you dropped this. Now don't be late to your airsoft game.
>>65526868My hux TI got glowing hot after 3 30 round mags with an frt. I can assure you this platform will absolutely fuck that can up.
>>65541915look at places like South Africa, Brazil or Zimbabwe. Collapse can come quick and is irreversible (because of its racial nature).
>>65528092Anon "shtf" means everyone open carrying and "shoot on sight" is only for cityoids no one recognizes. Welcome to fuckin Deadwood.
>>65541582The only dificult component to acquire would be zulfur, the NO3 you get it from chickens<And trying to make it the old fashioned way takes time, even if you have the knowledge, which no, you don'tyeah it takes time, hopefully you are not alone and have other people to work with like a comunity
>>65541915This is /k/. People just want to own body armor and night vision and will invent any number of imaginary fantasies about how they would use it. Realistically most people are fine with a gun, singular (as in plural, because one is none), but autism has a way of filling safes.
>>65527004I stopped consuming doomsayer content a while ago. I’m trying to go full hopeium by pushing through school and getting a solid career. Every now and then I talk to someone that cries about end of the end of the world and I just kinda shrug. The world is what you make it. The world has always kind of sucked and it won’t stop sucking in some way. Just do what you can.
>>65542208Tell us about your community. I'm sure it's fascinatingly rich and full of contributing members to your ideal.I don't know anyone that isn't alone now.Pretending you're not, that's not healthy. Find a wife and make some kids.
>>65541998Oh look, a strawman. Thanks for your time.I hope you're up to date on your boosters. You're going up need them.
>>65542252Good for you anon, hope you make it
>>65542307Why are you so triggered?
>>65542319Thanks fren. I used to be a minimum wage doomer, now I’m married and very close to a degree and a solid career. Not going to lie, spite and disgust towards the state of the country factors into my motivation. But my outlook is overall positive.
>>65541915It's a lot easier to plan and train for a tangible collapse in which you have to fight roving gangs or whatever than an intangible collapse where all of the sudden it's impossible to get medicine, food, or manufactured goods for reasonable prices and gas is 20$ a gallon but governments and communities still persist and the law keeps getting enforced. Think less Mad Max and more 90s Soviet Union.
>>65542313I actually am up to date because transmissible illnesses are a greater risk to the community than whatever fantasy scenario you have going on in your head.
>>65542382Thanks for doing your part by eliminating your worthless slave genes from the gene pool.Of course, if you'd just let your immune system do its job for something less dangerous than the flu, by taking a dozen plus doses of leaky vaccines that made you and your lot the super spreaders, and also not been such a worthless quisling to government overreach, we wouldn't be in this situation, sitting here, seriously talking about firearms for a fall that's already happened.Take your boostersDie suddenly. Again. Thank you. >>65542322I'm not triggered, at all. I just know that this world will be a better one when you're hanging but your neck with piano wire from the corner lamp post.And I'm pretty sure you do to.
>>65542471whatever you say dude, if not going to add to the conversation then why dont just lurk in silence?
>>65542471Anon ask yourself; >Is this the kind of attitude that a stable adult who lives in the 1st world would have?Because I don't think it is.
>>65538340It's hard for me to wrap my head around how this is going to be solved. I am a very grug brained person so I just wonder about the viability of a debt jubilee limited to a fixed date in the past to stop people from trying to rush credit before it happens. IE all national debts before 2020 are null and void. I'm sure this would be a disaster, but frankly every single possible solution or doing nothing would be a disaster by the sounds of things. >>65542252It's for the best. Social media is awful and while I've a lot of things to shit about with /k/ of late the competitor in /pol/ is demonic with how much there is a thrill to induce despair in others. It happens on every board but it's a fundamental objective there for no reason other than sadistic glee.
>>65542539vicious austerity. they voted themselves medicare we never voted for that, there is a path forward if we cut all social security.
>>65542512Explain to us the attitude a 'stable adult' has in this fucked up world. Seriously, how many different medications does an 'adult' have to be on to even ask that question here?I have another couple of questions for you: How many times did you get injected with The Science™ for covid, and how many times have you subsequently caught covid?You're in fucking 4chan you spastic, stability isn't the thing that brought you here, societal or your own. You're piece of shit job brought you here. Boost up you shill cunt. >>65542502Up the chimney faggot, or in the trench. Better hurry with your boosters. Kek. No one will ever regret not taking it. That's it, that's all. As far as guns for the end of society, I'm partial to picrel and a 22 bolt action
>Whining about covidWhat the fuck is going on in this thread?
>>65532281>Single stack .45acpMaxim machine guns are being used in Ukraine Plenty of newer .45 ACP pistols exist
>>65542647For starters, most stable adults moved on from Covid after 2023 when the height of the pandemic was over. If you actually went outside and interacted with normal people you would find that they just want to get on with their lives and not hang people from streetlamps or fantasize about shooting people into ditches. Don't make the mistake of thinking everyone on 4chan is miserable like you; I actually enjoy my job because I'm self-employed.
>>6552684038spl and revolvers and lever actions in that caliber. reloading tools. casting tool. smokeless powder, but the cartridge (and the firearms) will run black powder as well. semiautos won't.
>>65542670I see you didn't answer my questions, my 'everyone moved on': how many doses?how many infections AFTER your multiple, multiple doses of supposed vaccines?Most people would have serious questions if they got vaccinated 3 times for polio and still caught it, but not you. What, covid wasn't that serious?.Then why did you get the shots?Because you were scared. Because you were brainwashed (and honestly, who wasn't, after 8 months solid of 2 weeks to flatten the curve). Or because you were coerced.As a guy who majored in psychology before he switched to civil, I can tell you, the fact that people ABSOLUTELY refuse to talk about what happened during covid, what they did, what was done to them, to their kids, how people like you get very angry, very dismissive, very defensive when the topic comes up, is a really, really bad sign. Because it means you'll refuse to look at ANY evidence that proves you made a mistake, evidence you were forced to do something you really wish you hadn't. It means you'll never properly access a fight or flight situation again, because you're still suffering from ptsd.Never mind the kids, the poor kids. Don't worry buds.Us pure bloods will be here, with open arms to accept you and your loss.You only have to say your sorry, for playing your part in destroying this society with your complacency. But until then?Jokes on you bud. Killing yourself slowly for your job?Talk about sad and pathetic.Anyway, just sent the pureblood kids to bed, now snuggling in with my pure blood wife. Boost up, cunts.
>>65542652You're in a thread about the collapse of society, and you're too fucking stupid to see that covid was the linchpin for societies collapse, how all the happenings since December 2019 are just an extention of that event, a continuation of the decline of society into a total surveillance state?What the Fuck are you even doing here?Guns aren't going up help you. Although this one might help you fix what was done to you and yours, 'for the greater good'.Kek
>>65542679Why.Do you type.Like a faggot?
>>65542688WhyAre you typingAt allIf you'reReally shitty At reading?Just post your pictures midwit (which i see you again failed to do); the internet was remade for retards like you.
>>65542382Post your gun with timestamp
