>>65536137
Thats cool. I wonder how much the recent murmurs of Baltic invasion spurred this, or was it already in plans before and just coincidentally timed?

Source?

And no, Germans aren't a large enough force to start doing this all over eastern europe. They could maybe do 1 more of these, 2 if they increased the size of their military, but I don't see anything more than that happening outside of smaller installations hosting perhaps a battalion-sized element

>>65536137
Cute military presence on a cute little country.

>>65536143
https://www.dw.com/en/german-brigade-in-lithuania-set-to-be-combat-ready-in-2027/a-67754124

>>65536142
It was planned in 2023 and is just now taking form

>>65536143
>They could maybe do 1 more of these, 2 if they increased the size of their military
Which they intend to do? You saying 15,000 deployed Germans isn't a sufficient deterrent?

>>65536137
>What do we think? Thoughts? Opinions?
Tripwire road bump.
What anti drone systems do they have?

>>65536142
Our government proposed this as a pipe-dream and the Germans just said "Ok."

It's very lucky and funny.
Idea is, it's more than a trigger force and actually a massive infrastructure and cultural undertaking for Lithuania, since many Germans will be moving in with families and all.
They got enough volunteers for 80% of the force, thw rest will be assigned here
>>65536143
Other countries are looking for similar arrangements with other countries, but haven't been so lucky. UK said no to Estonia and just said they'll assign some unit to defend it in case of war, Polamd has been trying to get an American base for a decade now

Why don't krautoids get their own nuke instead of skirting around with this cuck shit? Isn't Merz supposed to be the new kaiser and shit?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/08/26/germany-talks-help-fund-britains-trident-nuclear-deterrent/

>>65536142
>murmurs of Baltic invasion
Russia has nothing to invade with. What are they going to send 100 dudes on bicycles to get instantly droned? Are they going to send in flying lawnmowers for F-16s to use as target practice?

>>65536310
That's exactly it. They're going to poke with just enough to be a legitimate territorial violation, but not enough to warrant anyone stepping in with Article 5. The second a baltic country triggers Article 5 and nobody shows up NATO is dead, which is exactly what Monke jerks off to every night.

Germany is incredibly based for stepping up with 5 thousand troops moving in on a semi-permanent basis.

>>65536310
They're going to try and pull another Crimea with Little Green Men again in Estonia after they've gangpressed another 300k men

>>65536205
>Isn't Merz supposed to be the new kaiser and shit?
wtf are you talking about

>>65536364
NATO air assets can obliterate Russian incursions without declaring total war.

>>65536466
That's scawy escalation :((((((((
It's so fucking frustrating how NATO is such a fucking coward when the only thing a Russian understands is a fist to the mouth and a bullet in the head.

>>65536480
>Ziggers
>Can't even properly bomb Kyiev
>Fantasize about bombing a NATO capital

Ooh how I wish you little shits would try. Starting real shit with NATO would make your little SMO look like a pleasant walk in the park.

>>65536466
Which would give Putin the propaganda excuse needed to go through with a mobilization and give him a ramp out of this whole mess. No doubt the Cheeto in Chief would bitch about it as well, as it would ruin his plans to make a "deal".

>>65536137
Panzer Nigade 45?
4 + 5 = NEIN!

>>65536205
Isn't Merz on his way out already?
Whatever votes he gained by finally trying to align his party against rapefugees have not outweighed the consequences of the ongoing economic crisis. They should have done something about both 10 years ago.

>>65536520
He is the most unpopular German chancellor in history and only still in power because nobody else wants to do the job since it's a suicide mission. Also the BW has massive problems even getting 4k people to volunteer for Lithuania and they just gave up and are forcing people now.

>>65536364
Wouldn't the Estonian, Latvian, or Lithuanian border police just politely ask them to go home?

>>65536520
>why fix when you can merkeln
t - Merkel

>>65536539
It's a hard sell to ask the border patrol to get to 500 green men squatting in an empty forest to fuck off, and a harder sell to ask for the US to send an aircraft carrier to deal with them.

The point is that Russia does the bare minimum to provoke NATO and prove that the alliance is, fundamentally, indecisive. The only option is to bomb the fuckers the second they step over the border.

5000 Germans are 0.25% of the population of Lithuania

>>65536186
IF they put 15.000 that's close to 1% of the population.

More interestingly, the armed forces are 12k so there'd be more German soldiers than Lithuanian ones.

>>65536539
And you think they have homes?

>>65536501
I think Putin is already planning a big mobilization and is going to use the Ukraine war as the cover but a lot of those troops will be going into the baltics, Russia is already doing border prep work next to Estonia. They are going to seriously test Trump and NATO's resolve soon and it's going to get real ugly, real fast if that resolve fails. A Trump sell out here would basically be a greenlight for a spiral into WW3.

>>65536137
>4,800 soldiers and 200 civilian staff
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here

>>65536583
No I meant 15,/000 in the Baltics and region in general not just Lithuania

>>65536614
Bro, Poland can solo Russia at this point. Monkee doesn't have shit left apart from bodies.

>>65536796
I know I just thought the idea of Germans outnumbering the locals is funny. Those 5000, if all in the same place, will certainly do that

>>65536957
cope, seethe and bark zigger lmao retarded pidors are getting deleted in ukranda, they are the worlds biggest laughingstock as of 2022

>>65536957
The EU could just give Khadirov a call and offer him twice compared to w/e he's getting in bribes from Monke and promise him the throne in Moscow.
>N-n-no they can't
Sure they could. Russia is a smaller economy then Italy. Would be way cheaper then mobilizing.

>>65536583
Germany just annexing neighbours like its NBD

>>65536957
Yes I waiting to see this improved bigger Russian army to fuck Ukraine for about four years now. When again, nigger, that will happen?

>>65536583
Ostsiedlung is back

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>>65536957
>Sparta Battalion conquered in southern Ukraine in the first few months of 2022
How many of those guys are still alive

>5,000 Germans in Lithuania
Should be 5,000 German Tanks in Lithuania

>>65536466
For now NATO air assets can't even shoot down russian lawnmower drones or aircraft which illegally cross the border. Weapons don't matter if there's no political will to use them. Kinda like ruslims having nukes don't help them win in Ukraine because they have no balls to use nukes (since monke is scared he'll get targeted personally by the western powers in retaliation for opening up the nuclear genie).

>>65536999
In a modern globalized economy purchasing power is mostly a meme

>>65536957
>what Sparta Battalion conquered
They've conquered dick

>>65537069
In a modern globalized economy, nominal is important for measuring economic power while PPP is important for measuring domestic services. Foreign-produced goods might be an international commodity, but domestic goods and services are local. Cheap locally, less ability to command resources internationally.

Estonia is the country that needs foreign troop deployment the most, their population is like ~20% ziggers and is probably the most strategically valuable for ziggers to hold due to its proximity to st. pidorsburg so if Putin is going to try to repeat 2014 it's going to happen there.
I suspect that western countries are reluctant to put troops in Estonia for this reason, they know it's next on the chopping block and don't want to get directly dragged into war with Russia themselves.

>>65537110
>they know it's next on the chopping block
Estonia is a NATO member
Russia will never, ever directly invade a NATO member at the current balance of power

Sounds like current events and not weapons related.

Clean it up jannies.

>>65537118
>Russia will never, ever directly invade a NATO member at the current balance of power
Western intelligence keeps talking about a hypothetical "incursion" that may happen though, that's why I mentioned 2014 in my first post. It probably won't be a full-scale invasion to give a definitive article 5 response but maybe a small land grab a la Crimea where ziggers living in Estonia stage an independence referendum then little green men with plausible deniability move in "to protect ethnic russians". Putin has been hoping NATO fractures and toeing the line with article 5 over a small country most people won't care about is best way to apply pressure and see if western countries will chicken out and leave their former eastern bloc counterparts feeling betrayed.

>>65537118
>Russia will never, ever directly invade a NATO member at the current balance of power
I'd say that they couldn't possibly be that stupid, but then again I thought the same in January 2022, and at this point I don't think anything could surprise me anymore.

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>>65537110
Finland and Estonia should cooperate on defensive deployments.
And I mean defensive deployments in the most moderate sense you can possibly imagine.

>>65537135
This. Russia acts 100% pants-on-head retarded and they're trying to speedrun Russia late 19th/early 20th century collapse.

And tehy have realy deceived tehmselves into believing 1905, 1917 and 1941 totally didn't happen, it wasn't their fault if it happened, and tehy absolutely won without any outside help in the end.

This is alsmot China-tier delusional.

>>65536191
I dont think "road bump" is the right word given the Russians have yet to exceed walking pace in Ukraine

>>65537118
I don't know why people can say this so confidently, an easy reality check is asking yourself with sincerity, which Western country could handle the intensity of warfare and casualty rates that Ukraine and Russia have been enduring for half a decade straight?
The Russian mindset hasn't changed one bit, if anything they only have ever gotten more emboldened by the cowardice and letargy of the EU, you look like easy targets right now, they sincerely believe that it just takes one good hit to knock it all down.

Another thing that is really worrying is that Russian media outlets and shills are working extra hard to DENY this right now, just like they did on the run up to 2022.

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>>65537178
>which Western country could handle the intensity of warfare and casualty rates that Ukraine and Russia have been enduring for half a decade straight?
This one

>>65536933
What's the implication? German cock slamming into Lithuanian pussy?

>>65537063
>So yes, russians could send 150,000 pidors on bicycles
Not without NATO noticing the staging area. And 150k warrants article 5, more than just an incursion getting wiped out with minimal attention like Wagner getting wiped by A-10s in Syria is little more than a footnote.

>>65537063
>150,000 pidors on bicycles and donkeys and just overwhelm the locals
Anon machine guns have existed for well over a century at this point

>>65537068
>For now NATO air assets can't even shoot down russian lawnmower drones or aircraft which illegally cross the border
Poland literally did this recently >>65537182
King, based, and correct. The resolve the West has against Russia is immensely strong.

will the german leos redeem the great turkey leo turkey shoot by those tow missle arabs?

>>65537076
That's the point, retard, there's almost no "domestic products" existing in a vacuum. Life and real economy isn't your game of factorio, anon, there's pretty much no end-to-end local integrated chains for producing shit. A car which is "made in the US" is built using parts, components and resources made abroad. This isn't the 19th century.

That's why for example diesel in US is increasing in price, because nobody gives a shit if it's locally produced: if the international price is increasing (because the US shot itself in the dick with the Iran war), then the domestic one will follow as well, since otherwise the producers will just export shit instead of selling to locals. Regulations won't help you combat this too much by itself. It's the same thing with pretty much everything else.

Take russia for example: there's almost no "cheap products" in the country, partially because the country doesn't actually product that much shit domestically and partially because what it does produce is actually heavily dependent on foreign machinery, parts, components and so on. To the point that if a farmer wants to be efficient and grow cows he has to import fuckin' bull sperm from Europe (no, I'm not joking). Even the fuckin' USSR, which actually tried to be "self-sufficient" and make everything couldn't do it and had to rely on vassals from COMECON and those filthy western capitalists. Take two steps in USSR and shit was either foreign or was made using foreign stuff. The greatest examples of "Stalin's Industrialization"? Made by US engineers and companies on contract lmao. What is cheap in russia? Vodka and cigs (because these products have almost no actual cost and 90% of the price is taxation), some basic bitch services (because people work for pennies and thus it isn't actually that cheap for locals, that and borderline slave labor is often used), real estate (old dilapidated commieblocks in dying bumfuck towns with no economy).

>>65537182
NATO casualties wont come close to Ukie numbers since NATO will have complete air superiority from day 1 onwards. Pidors about to wish they were in Gaza instead.

>>65537122
At least half this board is just geopolitics /pol/, at least 20% of the threads belong on /his/, the rest is actually weapons. related.

>>65537076
cont. >>65537235
Pretty much anything good and desirable either costs the same or often even more expensive than in Europe and US. And I'm not just speaking about fuckin' iPhones and PlayStations, but regular mass market shit like clothes and such. A pair of jeans which cost $40 on Amazon can run you over $100 in russia. Why? Often because of corruption costs afflicting things and no stability existing so businesses can't rely on their investments paying off in the long run: there's isn't any "long run", tomorrow doesn't exist, tomorrow the government might impose some bullshit laws, steal your company, get under new sanctions, etc. And also taxation, bureaucracy, shitty logistics, lack of good business climate, etc.

Before 2022 russians with a bit of money would routinely travel to Europe for shopping specifically because it was cheaper, even taking the travel shit into account. Nuff said. But yeah, bootleg sausages and pidor style pasta are relatively cheap in the store, as well as subsidized bread made from forage-tier flour.

>>65537226
The Turks had clapped out 2A4s. These are 2A8s, they're practically different vehicles.

The Ukie's 2A7s performed very well, so I tend to 'user error' in the Turkish case.

>>65537247
very well.

>>65536957
>Russia’s military is bigger than, stronger and FAR more capable than in 2022

what will the Russian soldiers ride into Europe?

>>65537203
>And 150k warrants article 5
Article 5 is a boogeyman nothingburger. There's nothing in it to force others to fight on behalf of the attacked country. If anything, the EU treaty has more robust mechanisms for collective defense, but without US even that is a bit cucked. I don't see people in Spain, France, Italy and such willingly going to war (with everything which that entails) for Estonia and such. Sorry, but good lipservice doesn't change reality. And like a big part of a potential ruslims invasion might specifically be to cause NATO to cuck out and thus commit sudoku publicly, since if it cucks out it stops being a thing. And then countries in Europe are left alone one-on-one with ruslim barbarians at the door.

it is the year 2800 and Germany is using Leopard 2Z95 tanks

>>65536392
Except that literally can't work in estonia. Anybody claiming it will just is parroting what they heard about ukraine 2014 and is lifting it 1:1 to estonia while completely clueless about the terrain and the domestic properties

Only way pidors can stage a forced takeover of Narva, without being immediately countered and wiped out by the EDF and DL, is massing proper military in pidorsburg oblast which will be ween a mile away

>>65537063
150k meat sacks on bikes will be mowed down with machine guns and mortars alone. You are just pulling random numbers out of your ass, aren't you? Because the big assumption is balts are completely defenceless and impossible to defend

>>65537287
>left alone
Oh fuck off you doomer and kys. West and south euros might try to wiggle out of it, but anybody with skin in the game, that is pretty much everyone around the baltic sea, will have plenty of interest to keep the balts alive. Especially as they will fight with everything they have. Neither finland up north has any interest in leaving estonia alone or neither poles down south want to see the konigsberg nothing burger become a military staging ground if pidors manage to get a land bridge

In the middle of all of this is sweden that does not want pidors anywhere near their gotland. Nato will reform and retool as its functional parts l prove themselves and dead weight lip servicers are sidelined

>>65537371
very organic post comrade
I am now demoralized

>>65537178
Well it will take one good hit to piss the EU off. Tell me now, what will pidor pidorovich do when the baltic sea shadow fleet traffic is shut down in retaliation for the border skirmishes with the balts. Black sea is already dead with ukranian activity. That only leaves the Pacific for the oil and gas to exit onto the seas and even more opportunistic scalpers waiting to undercut the price

>>65537134
And that can't work in estonia without being immediately countered. Dont confuse 2014 ukraine as the standard. They have to mass to steal narva and can't take it without a limited invasion

>>65537110
It's actually the least of the three. Latvia is the most vulnerable since they neglected their defence for decades because of their inferiority complex

>>65537371
Da. I amerikanskii patriot am in full agreement. Fuck da yuropoors

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>September, 1939 - German troops have moved into the Baltics!
>September, 2026 - German troops have moved into the Baltics!

>>65536557
There is no need for us aircraft carriers. 1k DL members alone will take care of the pidor squatters in the woods with a mythical method called light infantry tactics. I know, crazy world we live in

>>65537420
There were no german military in the balts in 1939. There were in 1941 though and were greeted with a sigh of relief

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>>65536999
>poor people points
just more proof that Russia is a third world country

>>65537226
any tank can get clapped by TOWs if you drive right into them

>>65537569
the Turks parked their tanks and got missiled

the French/Brits/Italians should do an equivalent permanent deployment in Latvia and Estonia

>>65537247
the Ukies got A4s and A6s, and their A6s took losses too. A7s and A8s are not indestructible either.

>>65537802
No tank is indestructible but not driving them straight into the enemy helps

>>65537247
>These are 2A8s, they're practically different vehicles.
The germans have a whooping 3 A8's, unless this deployment is planned for 2030 then the units involved will be using A7/A7v, maybe the A7A1
>ukie A7
The ukies have A4 and A6

>>65536614
The same rationale drove the japs to attack pearl harbor. Europe is currently fighting and bickering among itself. Once the first vids of lawnmower drones blowing up a children's hospitals or little green men raping their way through estonia goes viral, Putin faces a pissed off continent. And if the warnings are true, he plans to send gerans to France, italy and germany as well. If he really does that, hes cooked. People just need one boogeyman and even the most kremlin stooge is forced to put "Murder all russians" into his speeches.
I really hope Putin is that stupid.

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the thing zigger shills don't understand and refuse to understand when it gets explained to them is that Baltic states are an escalation nightmare for the pidors.
sure you'll let your little green men wander over the border and set up a squat camp.
the guys coming to evict them will be the locals. but every and I do mean every other bit behind them will be made up of NATO/EU contingents.
the moment you so much as fire one shot those parts come into play and it's off to escalation and dragging other countries into this rodeo.
the direct fire support is German, the artillery on call is French, the medevac is Spanish, the field hospital is Belgian, the fighters overhead are Italian, the Americans are providing command and control, the AWCS keeping an eye on everything is Swedish, the guys closing russia off from the Baltic sea are Danish and Finish, the two brigades coming in as reinforcements are Polish.
and now it's up to you Pidor Pidorovisch to manage that cluster fuck and not hit a single one of those assets or risk dragging them into this.
>but time is on our side
the jeets and chinks (who are basically keeping russia afloat) are already telling putlet to cut it out. how the fuck do you think they will take an escalation like this?

the dream of ripping NATO apart over the Baltic states went out the window the moment the rest of NATO shifted to forward deploy troops in the Baltic states and the rest of the eastern flank. they didn't sell empty tales about how they would super duper put up a fight, no they put their men in harms way to show the russians they will.

>>65537245
i've been doing cost comparisons with one of my russian friends and certain vegetables have basically become luxury products for most russians, they're ridiculously expensive even compared to west-european prices where those people often have like 20x the purchasing power on average.

>>65537432
For about five minutes before they went "Liberated? Nah, more like under new management."

>>65537235
>Take russia for example: there's almost no "cheap products" in the country, partially because the country doesn't actually product that much shit domestically and partially because what it does produce is actually heavily dependent on foreign machinery, parts, components and so on.
It's because Russia has insane taxes on labor, around 80% (for every 100 rubles worker gets it's is paid 80 rubles of taxes). And this tax load is applied even to lowest earning workers.
So Russian tax load makes it inviable to have business with large share of labor and added value from this labor (aka manufacturing). Enterprises less taxed in Russia:
1.Heavy capital low labor industries
2.Export industries (they get VAT return)
3.Imported goods resell
1 and 2 make perfect industry of oil exports (low labor share, plus export VAT return).
Russia been gas station is by design of it's tax codex.

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>>65536310
I believe the tactic is to make it seem that there is a real possibility that Russia will invade (even though they don't have a damn chance of achieving success) to force NATO members to ramp up their own personal defense spendings and leave less room to loans and donations to Ukraine. Also, an actual total war or at least a convincing possibility of one is how dying regimes buy a little more time before collapsing.

>>65536364
>They're going to poke with just enough to be a legitimate territorial violation, but not enough to warrant anyone stepping in with Article 5
Where's this idea coming from that you can just militarily fucking invade someone "a little bit" and it doesn't count? Like do you expect people to go
>oh shit Russia somehow has tanks left and is rolling them over a NATO border but like idk it's not that many it feels like it'd be kinda cringe to go crashing out about it
No they're going to shit fucking bricks and start throwing bombs to nip that shit right in the bud because they've had four years to see what happens if they don't.

>>65537347
Bruh, there are regions infested with ruslims in Estonia. To the point that back during the early 2000s russians actually tried to do their take on a "color revolution" in Estonia (basically instigated a riot under BS reasons to try and fuck things up), with the only thing helping is that ruslims instantly starting looting things like niggers instead of doing moe dangerous shit.

>>65538153
Wait, really? So high taxes on work correlate with high corruption and oligarchs running your cunt? Fuck, I think I need to leave Austria. Jesus.

>>65537368
>keep the balts alive
Crucial words, keep the balts alive != go and actually fight on their behalf.

>>65537371
>This is what happens when you demographically replace white americans with brown shit: pajeets, mohhameds, shitskin martinez's and all the other "diverse" crap.
Fixed

>>65538146
800 thousand troops trying to march thrpough ceaseless artillery, aerial and drone bombardement with their logistics and rear-area support are annihilated from the air within the opening hours are simply 800 thousand walking corpses. Fucking baltic POLICE are going to slaughter them dozens to one, actual NATO ground forces will do it hundreds to one. All your 800 thousand will achieve is making sure that the reaction forces rolling in by day 2-3 will still have something to kill.

>>65537396
Look at how cucked European militaries are: drones and missiles fly in and they are scared to even shoot them down, ruslims fly into their airspace and everyone looks the other way. Should be like roaches back in the day: just shoot down the faggots - what are they gonna do? Call the "hybrid warfare police"?

>>65538205
Except it literally is the same in actual practice. Seethe more about it.

>>65538089
Yep. A typical russian lives so shitty that you faggots in the west can't even comprehend lmao. Outside cigs, vodka and gasoline (which are all priced based on taxation and not actual costs), one of the few relatively cheap things in russia are the utilities like heating and electricity, but that's mostly because it's subsidized to shit for political reasons. If people actually paid what it cost to keep the systems running they'd collapse in an instant. Kinda like natural gas for domestic consumers is subsidized by export profits of Gazprom and Gazprom has to constantly whine how much of a loss generator the domestic supply is. But it's a political question for the regime. Even that, the costs had to balloon since 2015 (often doubling) due to RU economy running out of "free growth" potential by 2012-2014.

>>65538153
>It's because Russia has insane taxes on labor
>Russia been gas station is by design of it's tax codex.
Nah, it's way simpler than that. Tax codex got made like this after their model of "free growth through oil export" has lost its steam by 2012-2014. The unofficial open secret motto of the new era became "people are the new oil", i.e. if we can't extract more money from oil then we'll extract it from people. This has a fuck ton of specific examples of how it got implemented, not the least of that being various "control systems" put in place and contracted out to monke's friends.

The fundamental issue is that it's a thug-run mafia country. One could write a whole book on the subject, but the QRD is that criminal organizations with retards in power (which is almost all of them) fundamentally can't figure out complex value added chains and thus devolve into simple/quick money making crap. To do complex shit you need smart people to run them, and smart people are dangerous. The regime doesn't like independent wealth generation per se (because it views that as potential resources that you can spend on opposition), doubly so when it has be run by some eggheads, which the regime views as hostile. It's easier to contract out complex shit to foreigners than to allow locals to create complex shit locally which isn't controlled.

That's why cartels can do drugs, human trafficking and some avocado production (good margins, short cycle, simple process) but can't do things like industry and such. Russia is exactly like that. You'll create something locally? Even if you work though all the local bullshit and survive the retarded economic conditions, the regime will just take your crap away at some point, install nepotism retards to run it and they'll run it into the ground and require subsidize from the budget to keep it afloat. It happens time and time again. Imagine how much shit isn't started because people see this?

>>65538183
>Where's this idea coming from that you can just militarily fucking invade someone "a little bit" and it doesn't count?
Have you been asleep since 2022? Don't you remember how right before the ruslim invasion Biden was talking about "if russians do a full blown invasion, then we'll respond and there will be consequences, but it it will be something small then we won't"? It was premature cuckoldry galore

>>65538215
The whole post-2022 support of Ukraine was about "keeping them alive" instead of "helping them win", which was and is retarded.

>>65538261
Ukraine is neither NATO nor the EU and it's in everyone's interest to stall this war as long as possible to bleed ziggers out as much as possible. Well not in Ukraine's interest but who gives a shit about them.

>>65538261
>but supreme commander of NATO biden said!
good thing he's going to be the one everyone's taking orders from if the russians try some shit, I'm sure they're real glad ol' diamond joe is on their side

>>65538153
cont. >>65538256
Examples of this are everywhere, from VK and Yandex to Tinkoff Bank and RosNeft.
But one of the best examples for me is: local state corporation run by a monke's friend has a local supplier -> supplier actually makes good shit surprisingly (often it's some startup made by true believer techie retards) -> however supplier is independent and doesn't want to cuck out before the master -> monke's friend pulls strings and fucks over the supplier -> monke's friend switches to foreign supplier -> local supplier gets fucked and dies. This happens so often that you can use this template and just replace the names to RosNeft, RZhD and so on lmao.

>>65538267
Why are you autistic? It's not about NATO, it's about political cuckoldry which is willing to distinguish "actual invasion" vs "small incursion" and cuck out if given the chance.

>>65538283
>Why are you autistic?
>sees cuckoldry everywhere
The irony

>>65538256
>Tax codex got made like this after their model of "free growth through oil export" has lost its steam by 2012-2014
No it's not, all this compound taxation of labor in Russia was since it's fist tax system from 90s. Income tax+social funds "totally not taxes" mandatory payments+VATs. Since day one Russian taxation shaped Russian economy to turn into export gas station.

>>65538203
>So high taxes on work correlate with high corruption and oligarchs running your cunt?
High taxes on labor make your manufacting industry uncompetitive.
It becomes more economically viable to sell oil and then buy Chinese manufactured goods with this oil profits than make your own goods. So Russia got Dutch disease on steroids.

>>65538146
>Against 800 thousands deployed troops. 5 thousands is a road bump tier.

remind me again how many were in the initial invasion of Ukraine?

5 years later and we're still having to humour vatnik delusions, jesus fucking christ

>>65537287
>I don't see people in Spain, France, Italy and such willingly going to war (with everything which that entails) for Estonia and such

Spain has 800 soldiers equipped with Leopard tanks and Pizarro apcs and an AA battery plus Eurofighters and f-18s in the baltics as part of the Baltic Air Police

another "speedbump" for the mighty vatnik snail, btw this is what happened last time russians tried to overwhelm a position defended by Spanish soldiers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L_kk8FBVTE

>>65538533
>deploying pizza and some AA batteries
what sort of random shit is this?

>>65538533
Blue division is a completely extinct breed, modern Spaniard might as well be a totally distinct race. And at Krasny Bor, they also had 4th SS div backing them, hardly fighting „all by themselves“

>>65538546
Gaming night with the boys obviously

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>>65538556
>blue division out of nowhere
why don't you schitzo about my grandfathers division instead
he lived long enough to see russians getting droned and he'd smile like a manic when I showed his a russian tank with a soviet flag cooking off

>>65538559
Xbox should've used rechargeable batteries like normal people, no discuss

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>>65538546

Various NATO operations

>>65538546
I've just requested a deployment of 2 burgers and fries for myself, you should get with the program. Supply drop should be delivered in like 20 minutes or so.

>>65538595
yes discuss
using double AA's means no disposable controller

>>65538608
You do realize that you can replace the battery in a PS3 controller? That's how they're still used after 20 years.

>>65538608
>using disposable batteries by the thousands as if it's something good

>>65538615
The PS3 is a console from the mid-2000's, when even Sony pretended it cared about longevity.
>>65538618
Hyperbole.

>>65538580
I wish I had an SS grandfather. Not because I give a fuck about the hypocritical mess that was nazi ideology but because he'd have a lot of stories to tell.

>>65538633
>Hyperbole.
Not really. You know how many batteries I use up in a year? Like two. You know what I see in people's homes who use Xbox consoles? Piles of dead batteries bigger than what our 50 guy office uses up in wireless mice in a year.

>>65538633
PS4 controllers aren't any different

>>65536843
>Bro, Poland can solo Russia at this point
Assuming you are correct, would monke even know this? Is he even getting any real information from his lackeys? Also his tendency to double down is well known.

>>65536191
Yeah thats a tiny force, they couldnt possibly hold. Russia would only take 6.5 million casualties.

>>65536843
Im pretty sure Walmart could zolo Russia at this point.

>>65538703
3-day SMO to liberate the oppressed Russian minority of Bentonville, Arkansas?

>>65538709
>3-day SMO to liberate the oppressed retail minority of russia

>>65538703
Walmart couldn't even take over Germany
Lidl and Aldi could take the russians without breaking a sweat

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>>65538146
>takes out 20+ tanks / armored vehicles per day with a crew of 2
nothing personal kid

Germany also has mass produced loitering ammunition and reconnaissance by now
and EU intelligence actually works

the only realistic option for Russia to strike anything relevant in the EU today are either
>drone swarms
>ballistic / modern cruise missiles
missile production is hard capped at a few dozen per month
drones can be devastating
but there are multiple companies (like Donaustahl) that produce anti Geran solutions, so even that has limited effectiveness

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>>65538716
Would Aldi remain unified after the war, or would the lack of a common enemy cause them to splinter even further?

>>65538748
Destroy the BundesAldi. Restore the Lidlreich.

>>65538761
It doesn't matter because nobody wants to fight.

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>>65537287
You Kremlin bots keep repeating this. Yet if it were true, you subhumans would've long since tried to fuck around and invade the Baltics. So what's got you so afraid, churka?

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>>65538755
das ist pretty funny

>>65538761
bitch, you're gonna start your 5th year of getting bogged in the poorest country in eu and you the gall to come here and talk about pretending to be strong? bitch you're the world's laughing stock, nobody takes ziggeria seriously anymore. i for one wish you attack the baltics cause then you're gonna get fucking rolfstomped like the bitch you are. you coming here andmouthing off is llike a rabid, malnourished dog that's barking like a wild animal, but runs away the moment it's threathened. you're a bitch ))))))))

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>>65536137
>German troops in Lithuania

>>65538748
Aldi Nord and Süd are already faking split
at the border regions they are already doing unified products, but for the sake of fake competition they keep it up.
the day Aldi unites, is the day the world gained world peace for real

>regular customer at aldi
>kinda more and more miffed about their anti-consumer "promotions", -X%! (when you buy three) kinda shit
>see a promo for crisps, buy 2 packs, get one free. wanted to buy crisps at this time, so might aswell.
>go through the checkout, see that i paid for 3 packs
>go back to the lady, say i should've only paid for 2
>"no it's 2 and 2 free, you needed one more"
>say no, it's 2 and 1 free, please go check
>"i can't leave a till"
>stare at her for 10 seconds waiting until she figures out she can call someone else to go check
>she doesn't, i go there myself and snap a photo of the label saying "2 + 1"
>"well, i don't know if that's the correct label - you could've took a picture of a different product's label you know"
>yeah lady, i wanted to fuck you over a bag of crisps, even thought YOU said it's 2 for 2, so i'd be fucing myself over
>lleave and never come back
FUCK aldi

>>65538849
Fuck. I heard the sound effect.

>>65536137
>Germany's first permanent military deployment outside its own borders since World War II.
That's bollocks. They were in Mali for a spell.

>>65539040
>permanent

>>65539048
>Anschluss, you say?

>>65539063
>delusions
but enough about 3 day SMO )))))

>>65539048
They were there for a decade. They were meant to stay but Nafris told them to go away (and immediately collapsed afterwards).

>>65539013
That's not an aldi specific issue, it just sounds like you got some southern idiot at the register

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>>65538761
>>65539063

>>65539063
>like jeets
Ironic, since Russia has almost identical cultural problems with India. Slavs and Aryas, two birds of a feces-laden feather

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>>65537432
>There were no german military in the balts in 1939.

Does he know?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_German_ultimatum_to_Lithuania

>>65539648
>why do people that legally cannot own any fucking guns and belong to one of the most totalitarian anti-gun anti-freedom nations in the world
>who love that aspect of it, and shill that servility as if it sets people free from the hurdles of democratic process
>who literally never come to this board other than to shill for russia and how ukranians should stop using their guns to defend themselves from rabid niggers invading them
>why should these specific russians, not all, but specifically these, get banned
gee, idk, maybe because they spam BBC porn and fill the entire catalog with redditjaks whenever they notice a downturn in janny activity.

>saar why can I not shit in the Walmart parking lot Saar, sounds like censorship to me bloody bastard benchod bitch

>>65539669
>Klaipėda (German: Memel), an important seaport in East Prussia, was detached from Germany by Article 28 of the Treaty of Versailles and was governed by the Allies according to Article 99. France assumed administration of the region while Lithuania continued to lobby for its control, claiming that it should belong to Lithuania
Sounds like a French-dictated territorial change got resolved diplomatically.

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>>65539648

>>65536137
About fucking time they got over the WWII guilt.

>>65539808
Better question is why don't we have flags yet? Know where everyone is from

>>65540092
>Know where everyone is from
>2026
>what are VPNs

>>65540107
I don't know how to decipher that shit

>>65540092
>flags
Brother, we don't have unique IP counters anymore. This whole site is held together with a budget in the same ballpark as Sealand's defense budget.

>>65540092
Only retarded /pol/tards push for flags, since they know from experience how easy they are to fake.

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>>65540092
first assignment?

>>65542009
just because you have a dysfunction does not mean you should project it to everyone else

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>>65536310
>Russia has nothing to invade with.
Someone mentioned that the point is to break the NATO *alliance* by stress-testing it with incursions. Russia does not need to invade; just break NATO into 30+ separate countries. That why Putin has a hard-on on wanting West Europe to stop expanding NATO.

>>65545166
>the point is to break the NATO *alliance* by stress-testing it with incursions.
>Russia does not need to invade;
but what happens if EU / NATO countries actually respond properly?
like bombing / shelling Russian military facilities and production lines,
even just near the border

considering St. Petersburg is <200km from EU borders
so well within reach of currently EU mass produced mid range drones
this seems like a very high risk low reward gamble

>just break NATO into 30+ separate countries. That why Putin has a hard-on on wanting West Europe to stop expanding NATO.
never understood that
to what end?
EU will continue to exist and continue to integrate military wise

also why is this always states as "reasonable" request!?

Russia had the option to integrate more closely with the EU in the early 2000s
but they did not want to
they wanted only into NATO which was declined for obvious reasons

the only reason Russia wants to dismantle NATO is to make way for their imperialistic aspirations and invade post-soviet states
which ironically is the only reason for NATO expansions

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>>65545301
It's not a delusion, that's unironically their "hybrid warfare" doctrine. Is it stupid and requires tremendous mental retardation to think it makes sense? Absolutely, and that's why Russians think it's so genius. I hate that miserable "country" so much it's unreal.

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>>65545301
And doubling down on them

>>65545301
Wtf does the X-men have to do with this?

>>65545321
Colossus is Russian.

>>65545321
>x-men == khokhols
>hijackers == draft-dodgers

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>>65545311
>wet dreams

>>65545336
>be russian
>go somewhere
>make it shit
>want to conquer some new place cause "nice European-style houses"
and in the end they'll make it also shit. Just fix your own god forsaken country and leave the rest of us alone.

>>65545403
That would require introspection, as well as an understanding of cause and effect. Russia is the national personification of that Simpsons meme.
>The Europeans have better, longer, more prosperous lives than us Russians!
>Could it be that good governance, democracy, a relative lack of corruption, civil liberties, and long term investment in infrastructure has produced a positive result in Europe that we should emulate in Russia?
>No, it is the European Nazis homosexual Jewish fascists who are wrong and need to be punished.

>>65545403
>Just fix your own god forsaken country
That would require dismantling it into separate parts

>>65545166
I don't really see why some small border fuckery at baltics would turn into some sort of "stress test".
NATO would just wipe out the invading forces and russia would seethe about it and cry about NOOKS as usual.

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>>65545301
>>65545311
>>65545336
Russia needs to be moved beyond the Urals, and a sanitary zone establisehd between the Volga river and Ural mountains

>>65536137
So Trump actually made them honor their obligations? Based.

>>65545899
Too moderate IMO

>>65545696
>I don't really see why some small border fuckery at baltics would turn into some sort of "stress test".
the """assumption""" is that they march into some border town (like Narva),
plant their flag
and expect NATO to just dissolve from the following discussion on what to do and how to react

which, of course, is incredible retarded
because bombing the shit out of a Russian incursion on NATO / EU soil is completely uncontroversial

Russia already does as much as they reasonably can without getting a bigger reaction
i.e. "subtle" hybrid warfare on infrastructure or "accidental" drones
every step beyond, even shelling from inside Russia, where counter strikes can be easily framed as defensive action, are realistically out of question

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>>65545209
>the only reason Russia wants to dismantle NATO is to make way for their imperialistic aspirations and invade post-soviet states
>which ironically is the only reason for NATO expansions

Why is a literally nothing happening considered interesting or worthy of a post? Wake me up when they start exchanging fire with Russians or something.

>>65546571
>Thirdies spam the board for over 4 years, making /k/ intensely aware of their efforts
>"Actually its the euros tho"

>>65546591
Only euros get away with crying and getting everyone they dislike banned. Why do you think euro threads are half deleted/removed posts?

Because basic pattern recognition, crying about being censored won't stop people noticing your shit.

>>65537347
>Except that literally can't work in estonia
Yes it can if Russia bum rushes the newly mobilized 300k ziggers into Narva and the South Eastern portion of Estonia that it wants for itself. All the while claiming that these dude are all native Estonians and that they're wanting to break away and join Russia because Estonia is a big ole meanie to russian speakers :(

TOTAL
>get robbed by a nigger
ZIGGER
>loses job to a pajeet
DEATH
>dies for israel

>>65545301
>Only 2.5 million Lithuanias
Umm he doesn't know Russia already lost 1.5 million men for literally nothing?

>>65545301
>we have taken over lithuania
>surrender unconditionally or we will annex lithunia
what's the logic here?

>>65546266
What imperialist ambitions? They just want Russia to fuck off so Daddy USA won't bother them about needing to have a military anymore.

>>65546627
>Dies for Israel
Weird how this never actually happens and instead a lot of goat diddlers die instead.

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>>65546649
>Vatniks
>Logic
Never the two shall meet.

>>65546652
He was talking about Russia, and it'S pretty much certain taht Europe will rearm no matter what anyone says or does.

>>65546610
Because half the posts in many of those threads are angry ziggers seething lol.

>>65545209
>but what happens if EU / NATO countries actually respond properly?
LMAO. Why would R*ssians plan for contingencies like that? Obviously, only their best-case scenario needs consideration. The other side acting outside of their expectations? What kind of gay Western HATO thinking is that? Obviously, they'll fold in three days just like Oinkrainians did, silly.

>>65545336
This is so fucking sad.

>my country is garbage
>we'll invade somewhere that isn't garbage
>I'll move there and it'll have some issues first
>but once it properly becomes my country for real those issues will definitely be fixed and totally will not turn into garbage as well

Learned helplessness. Get your own house in order, zigger.

>>65547874
Learned helplessness has nothing to do with it. It's learned pidorness.

>>65548049
Nah, it's looking to the Tsar and the outside in general for help/salvation rather than inside and to themselves that is the issue. They'll never ever change as a people and just keep switching from one slave master to another until they stop doing that.

>>65545696
it seems like it's all based on a sort of hyper-cynical theory that NATO is a bullshit organization that all its member states were pressed into by force. and now that the US is not around to bully the member states around, they'll disperse at the first sight of trouble. and therefore all russia needs to do is push over the 1st domino and watch it all tumble down (mwahaha)

occasionally i browse news on reddit (im a reddit spy) and there is always someone repeating this theory. my guess is that it's old soviet bloc worldview being projected onto NATO. as in, as soon as russia let the soviet union member states do what they wanted, they broke off and ran as far as they could. so i'm guessing they think NATO is the same thing. you occasionally see russians implicitly equate the two, with the US controlling the organization, aggressive NATO expansion and so on.

all this to say: it's once again projection

>>65548147
Russians can generally only think of life in master-slave terms, because that's how they themselves are in day-to-day living.
The entire country is just a prison filled with cattle moulded through generations.

>>65539669
Lithuania was peacefully removed from occupied German territory, that's not the Baltics.

>>65536364
>but not enough to warrant anyone stepping in with Article 5
Euros are fucking cucks. They should be chomping at the bit to invoke Article 5 and bomb the Kremlin flat

>>65537068
>monke is scared he'll get targeted personally by the western powers in retaliation for opening up the nuclear genie
Which is true. The French have had a nuclear hard on and blue balls for over half a century.

>>65538118
They were far better off than being under soviet control.

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>>65537388
The Russians will do what they always do: escalate. If the Baltic sea is declared closed to shipping, they'll arm their merchant ships and escort them with frigates. They'll continue to sail right through the Baltic, threatening to NOOK if any EU state intervenes.

This playbook is like 30 years old at this point. NATO should have done a Reagan-style stomp on Russia when this bullshit cooked off in 2022, enforcing a 50km DMZ into Russia along the Ukrainian border. Black-bag all the siloviki kids living abroad, post their pics on the dark web and don't say anything to get the elites scared. Putin gets coup'd in a month and his replacement negotiates a end to the fighting.

But in 2022 the EU was asleep while the US was divided, so we get the gay and retarded timeline instead.

>>65539669
>>65538118
The Poles has other plan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Polish_ultimatum_to_Lithuania
Lithuania got Karma.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaip%C4%97da_Revolt

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>>65548447
>This playbook is like 90 years old at this point
ftfy

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>>65549030
oops, wrong quote

>>65536843
the president of poland is already saying on twitter that they "can lose territory but they will never lose their soul", tf you talking about? or are you polish? they will sell their mother just not to get involved in any war. poland it´s just like russia (nationalist/imperialist, chauvinistic, hates all their neighbours, etc...) but without the balls to do stupid shit.

>>65548447
I don't read or listen to anyone who posts slop.

>>65549055
NTA; the current President of Poland isn't exactly a normal Pole.

>>65539013
I have set my shit down and walked out of Aldi plenty of times

Really not a good grocery store
Early Marianos was king
Kroger is OK
Jewel is tolerable
I will not buy food at Walmart again

>>65549062
Based

>>65537122
Shut the fuck up, bitch.>>65537244
/pol/ and /his/ are both gay as fuck. Even with how shitty /k/ is currently it is leagues better than either of those cesspools.

>>65538028
I would 100% expect the Polish and Finnish contingents to actively engage the russians of their own accord.

>>65548147
>theory that NATO is a bullshit organization that all its member states were pressed into by force
First part is the decent guess, the later one is just ruslim delusions because in their mind everyone else is the same as they are. It's a form of reverse-lookism and/or reverse cargo-cult, basically "ooga-booga the white man is also eating people, they are just sneaky and hide it better" - yes, that's how russians really think. And them being able to corrupt western political systems for decades shows that it's at least somewhat true.

>>65548147
The underlying issue is that back in the NATO had a clear idea: everyone is scared of USSR going to annex Europe, so collective defense is the only option to survive, and US provides the backing of a super-power, who'd lead any and all military endeavors. Post-1991 this clear idea eroded to shit due to multiple reasons:
- "peace (more like piece of shit) dividend" causing locals armies to get underfunded into oblivion;
- delusional faggots across the isle all thinking "no communism == no danger" and "russia is now a normal country";
- US becoming more and more retarded with the special GWOT sandbox adventures, eroding trust into it and such;

Now add to this the slow corruption of western elites and political classes by russians: bribes given here, people inserted there, contracts given out to friends, etc. That's how you get super russia-friendly subhumans like Berlusconi and literal stasi-bitches like Merkel, while Schroder would end up working in Gazprom and such and Obama-the-nigger would run to do "reset of relations" after yet another ruslim subhuman chimpout.

So yeah, modern NATO is basically a combination of a brain-dead US and impotent Western Europe. Add to this the internal political issues caused by retarded politicians in Europe, to which the ruslims bring gasoline to stoke the flames, and you have an organization which has almost nothing in common to what it once was. I'm not sure how you'd be able to convince the German, French or even worse Italian and Spanish societies that they need to go and fight a war against russia should those ruslim faggots do an incursion into say Lithuania or such. The lack of a unified overwhelming military response would in itself be a death sentence to NATO as an organization. EU can't even do normal sanctions against russia (lookup how France and Luxemburg are removing sanctions, or how sanctions are basically cucked by design), how do you expect those countries to fight? "Why die for Riga" and all that.

>>65549888
>impotent
and corrupt and apathetic. Europeans are more infiltrated by mudslimes than the burgers, and the rest of the population are too afraid of losing their social welfare to grow a moral backbone about it.

For anyone who is slow, >>65537068 is another one of Robert’s butthurt zigger false flags that he posts. He is VERY identifiable in these.

> For now NATO air assets can't even shoot down russian lawnmower drones or aircraft which illegally cross the border. Weapons don't matter
LMAO

>>65549888
You might have been correct few years back. Now NATO has been pretty much revived and Trump shenanigans have made it so that europeans are ready to act on their own rather than wait for potentially delayed US reactions.

>>65549888
Yeah, but now its 2026 and every Western European Nation is very aware that any ground given to R*ssia is just allowing the predator to get closer. That said all R*ssia needs to be curb stomped is Poland or Finland to get upset at this point. As a Western European I didn't give a fuck about Ukraine pre-2022 and desu considered them to the be R*ssia's backyard. Now I see them as absolute bro's that have seen the light of freedom that deserve every bit of tax money going their way.

>>65550153
>if i start falsely accusing people of being myself they’ll finally stop laughing at me!
No lol.

>>65550283
>doesn’t deny claiming that NATO air assets cannot shoot down Russian drones
>only gets pissy after being called out
LMAO

>>65550294
>NATO is still at peacetime footing
>Airspace is not closed so can't go about slinging AIM's all willy nilly
>Vatniggers see this as a sign of weakness
You might have spend 60 years thinking of how to bump your own chest as hard and as proudly as possible. To cause as much grandeur as you're able. Meanwhile three generations of NATO servicemen have only been thinking about one thing; how to kill as many russniggers as efficiently as possible.

As a moderate I will once again re-iterate; I wish a rusnigger would.

>>65550153
Who is Robert?

>>65550335
He is our resident lolcow from /pol/ who failed out of the .mil, and now tries to “troll” /k/ by seething about NATO countries and making militarily illiterate statements. He gets extra pissy when everyone is talking about TZD, and makes it his mission to derail /meg/, among other behaviours that easily stand out. See >>65535392

>>65550335
Some German zigger who is going to get the rope if the war between Russia and NATO ever gets hot.

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>>65550347
no, that's Dennis

>>65550251
>Now NATO has been pretty much revived and Trump shenanigans have made it so that europeans are ready to act on their own rather than wait for potentially delayed US reactions.
Saying "our minds our with the people of occupied Oleshki" (where modern holodomor is made by russians) isn't really being "ready to act".

>>65550274
>every Western European Nation is very aware that any ground given to R*ssia is just allowing the predator to get closer
This is actually the reverse point you're trying to make. Before 1991 the russian forces were staying in Germany, and the military block was on the borders of Greece and such, i.e. very deep into Europe. Now ruslim and ruslim aligned forces are barely in Belarus. This makes the people and politicians of Western Europe stop seeing the danger, since russia is "somewhere far away". People in Estonia might feel the danger, or people in Poland kinda might feel it (but still would prefer to jerk around their old quasi-imperialistic bullshit against Ukraine), but outside it? Nah. Retards in Greece, Spain, Italy think of russia and russians as "good tourists bringing money". Retards in Germany think "we had cheap natural gas from them" (because they were paying with your future security lmao). And so on.

>>65550153
Nothing of what was said is incorrect

>>65550902
all of it was incorrect, you're wrong.

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>>65539013
Wait, does it work differently in Krautland than here? If it's their fuck up, and you can prove it, they have to sell it at the shown sticker price here. I've run into this "issue" numerous times because retards at the stores forget to change the stickers all the time.
>t. poland

>>65550335
That guy selling crab legs at the cinema.

>>65539013
In Bongland we don't get 'promotions' like that. You said 'crisps' so that limits you to the Anglosphere + Ireland (yes I know in the USA there is a thing called 'crisps' because legally a 'chip' is a sliced piece of potato fried, so things like Pringles are 'crisps' and it's the opposite in Bongland, so a 'chip' is like Pringles, 'crisps' are sliced potato fried).

>>65536539
>Wouldn't the Estonian, Latvian, or Lithuanian border police just politely ask them to go home?
With a panzerbrigade behind you, you don't have to be so polite about it.

>>65536137
Ah, this is why we are seeing "concerned German mothers" posting about not wanting their kills to die fighting mighty Russia.

>>65539013
there's always that one fuckhead and the entire fucking multinational corporation isn't responsible for one idiot cashier in whichever shithole you're from
this says more about the people in your shithole than it does about Aldi

>>65536191
>road bump
>in front of a force moving so much slower than a snail we stopped tracking the snails progress over a year ago when it hit the english channel
You put road bumbs in front of fast thing to force them to slow down, this is just a deterant and the real threat to Russia is if they do the stupidest thing possible F-35s flood their skies.

>>65551213
>Seething Aldi Employee Detected

>>65537368
>West and south euros might try to wiggle out of it, but anybody with skin in the game, that is pretty much everyone around the baltic sea, will have plenty of interest to keep the balts alive
The Baltics hold the EU's strategic resource of hot blondes, every Spanish, Italian, and Greek, man will fight to the death to preserve this resource.

>>65538938
>the day Aldi unites, is the day the world gained world peace for real
German reunification will succeed the second time around.

>>65551253
Not until Prussia liberated from Polish and Russian occupation.

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>>65550274
>Now I see them as absolute bro's that have seen the light of freedom
They are absolutely not. They have the same mentality and are just as corrupt as the ziggers. However they are a sovereign country and most importantly very useful in bleeding ziggeria out so at least the latter warrants supporting them. That way nobody else really has to do anything other than send them dosh and watch them punch snowniggers in the dick without having to put their own people in harm's way.

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>>65551287
>Not until Prussia liberated from Polish and Russian occupation.
The bear is anemic and drink but the Aldite fears the beetle.

>>65551152
>t. poland
Adopt the Euro already, you lazy fuckers.

>>65551317
wtf happened here

Again just because you don't know about them doesn't mean NATO doesn't already have troops in the Baltics ready to go

>NATO’s Forward Land Forces consist of nine multinational battlegroups located in member countries along the eastern flank. The battlegroups vary in size and composition according to military requirements. They are based in Bulgaria, Estonia, Finland, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania and Slovakia.
https://www.nato.int/en/what-we-do/deterrence-and-defence/strengthening-natos-eastern-flank

>>65551371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IyL0KG8bB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFeYv7hOJX4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6aK7GDO0Dw
video for the zoomzoom generation

>>65551371
WTF are you talking about?
AYRT was talking about Ukraine and you bring up EFP??

>>65548186
An opinion any sane European shares, unfortunately our politicians are all virtue signalling pearl clutchers more desperate to maintain the status quo than actually taking Russia as the combative, antagonistic rump state it really is.

>>65551415
I was replying to him only to ask about the video, is that AI or genuinely some durka suicide bombed himself on a segway

rest of my post was just general topic of the thread, which is Baltics

>>65551458
ah I see

>>65551458
>general topic of the thread
>>65536137
>Could this be preparing for Germany to handle most the land-based deployments on the eastern flank?
far from "most"
the Europeans have zero capability to coordinate multi-divisional operations. this is the Bundeswehr trying to train for and practice something it hasn't done for decades, if ever: deploying a combat brigade a thousand miles away. just this alone will strain their army as it is. they're going to learn that the current Bundeswehr cannot do more than deploy one (1) brigade for an enduring operation, without leaving absolute barebones back home to respond to any other situation that might arise.

>>65536501
You absolute spastics know nothing at all about logistics
Stop being painfully stupid and rub whatever handful of brain cells you have together, fucking stupid subhuman monkey

>>65536557
OK how about a couple thousand US/UK/FR troops show up (because they're already there) and tell the little green men to fuck off or die?

>>65551523
I'll believe that when they can tell the little brown men to fuck off and die

>>65551537
Are they controlling domestic immigration, or are they military personnel stationed for use against hostile nations?
What's your cunt, some third world shithole?

>>65551540
>generals will be the ones deciding whether to start a war, not the treasonous politicians who've already sold Europe to the browns

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>>65551349

>>65551458
>is that AI
That gif is probably older than 80% of this site.

>>65551564
A those politicians are constantly talking about war with Russia
B small unit actions based on initiative can and have quickly spiraled into conflict

>>65551579
>talking
oh, that's for sure
>Marco Polo Incident: Baltic DLC
>"oops, my elbow jogged the big red buttton and we blew up a hundred ziggers totally by accident, sorry. guess we gotta start up the Leopard 2s and not stop till we reach Vladivostok"
I wish, anon

>>65551589
derp, I meant Nomonhan Incident
sorry, I'm tired

>>65536310
>to get instantly droned
Baltics aren't on a war footing. So the russians would have a few hours to a day to claim some patch of dirt before a serious response arrived. The temporary gains would then get reported as a glorious victory to the tsar.

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>>65537053
>might as well go with sickles
Heh

>>65551595
Have you read about the amount of NATO assets in the Baltics? I'd give the vatniggers 300 meters before they start getting blown the fuck up by artillery and airpower.

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>>65537053
>if you find yourself alone, walking through wheat fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled, for you are a zigger, and you already have AIDS!

>>65551602
Are they on alert though? Otherwise I'd still expect NATO to react at bureaucracy speed, which is why I'd give the ziggers a few hours to live. As long as they "conquer" some uninhabited patches of land on their e-scooters.
If they actually sent tank columns (what tanks?) towards a city then I'd hope someone would have the balls and skip all the ceremony.

>>65551675
It doesn't matter because if Russian tank columns surge into the Balts the nukes will be flying, or will about to by flying.

The whole thing with 2014 is Russia discovered a new meta - military operations with plausible deniability. local forces (indigenous pop) supported by a handful of conventional soldiers, seizing land and generally fucking about.

Hence, the German deployment, and their entire NATO force posture is retarded. There will be no conventional invasion, because that means everyone dies. What there will be is some gay "5th Generation Warfare" shit, in which case light infantry and gendarmerie are more useful than big mechanized formations.

The best defense is to just totally disarm Russian psyops and tools of causing local discontent. Like, not banning Russian as a language (as some balts do) and having more populist government policies. We did this before in the post-war era, to stop the spread of communism, it works.

>>65551152
Mostly they are like that in Germany (and Austria)

But some of their stores are run by raging faggots who give no fucks and tehy'll just scam you.

>>65551687
No, I'd say German deployment and NATO force posture is quite effective. Your lil gay green man aren't going to do fuck all against an armored force while if it was just gendarmerie opposing them they could actually pose a threat.
Also Russian language should be banned and all Russian should be extradited.

>>65551793
Even if the Baltics bent over backwards to make their Russian speakers feel appreciated/respected/whatever I think that's besides the point because Ukraine shows Putin absolutely will use your Russian population for his aims, even if they don't want him to. It's a modern Sudetenland problem, and it risks being solved the way the Sudetenland ultimately was.

Russia has been escalating heavily in the baltics with their anti-social antics and behaviours lately

It is leading everyone to a consensus that action must be taken against occupied Koenigsburg, in response to Russia’s extreme aggression.

If the yanks were not run by a treasonous buffoon who refuses to take action, the world might be able to better prevent a Russian attack

>>65551568
Well I'm no spring chicken myself and it's the 1st time I see it so some info would be nice

>>65551997
Maybe because we know that Russia doesn't have the balls to attack a NATO nation. They can't even win against their own neighbor in almost 5 years of attrition warfare

>>65537368
>finland
>sweden
Sorry, bro, but they are too small in terms of army sizes and capabilities.

>>65551687
>local forces (indigenous pop) supported by a handful of conventional soldiers
This is russian propaganda actually. "Local forces" couldn't even go to a protest, because they never actually existed, so the "protestors" had to be bussed in from russia. Literally all of the initial fighting was done by russian nationals with russian passports, both cadre military and regular bums hired by FSB in russia to act as cannon fodder. "Local forces" were constructed afterwards and were mostly used as occupation regime enforcers.

>>65551948
The russian population is just a distracting propaganda talking point. Same as NATO expansion and other "color revolution" bullshit. It's just something for clueless westerners to discuss. It's never the real reason or issue, it's just a justification for imperial expansion.

>>65552213
>Sorry, bro, but they are too small in terms of army sizes and capabilities.
Finland literally has most trained soldiers in europe excluding Ukraine, and that includes Russia because of that "trained" conditional.

>>65552287
Trained in 20th century warfare and/or efficient guerilla war for defense of their own country. Explain to me how Finland would take the fight back to russia and such.

>>65552298
Eh, just burn down St. Peterburg with bombs until russia surrenders.

>>65552301
That would be a good start, yes. Does Finland posses ballistic missiles for that?

>>65552304
Sure

>>65551793
No because you're not fighting conventional forces. It's a mixture of riots, civil disobedience etc that slowly escalates into low level conflict. By the time you need tanks, it's too late, you're in a full scale conflict. You want inf (to secure key points) and militarized police (to police) to stop the process.

>Russian language should be banned
Boorish jingoism that accomplishes nothing other than giving the Russians something to leverage against the state. It costs nothing to let Russians speak Russian. Their entire justification for 2014 was banning Russian etc.

>>65552229
>It's never the real reason or issue, it's just a justification for imperial expansion.
No shit, dumbass. The point is not providing them an easy justification.

>>65552306
Nice

>>65552316
>not providing them an easy justification
Cuckoldry logic 101. They don't care if you provide something or don't. They'll fake and invent bullshit. They'll look at white and call it black. That's how russians operate.

>>65552319
Maybe. But thats harder for them than just pointing to a law that bans Russian.
>Cucking
You're a child.

>>65552325
I'm 40, retard.

>>65552327
You are, spiritually, a child.

>>65552328
It's called being of fresh mind instead of becoming a senile retard lmao

>>65552339
>Not longing for the sweet release of senility
Pathetic.

>>65549635
That's why private Perkele and Kielbasa are on the backlines until shit kicks off.
Then the Hussars ride again and Simo Häyhä is taken out of crypo sleep.

>>65552353
But all the hussars are running profitable plumbing businesses in the UK.