https://aviationweek.com/defense/aircraft-propulsion/nasa-asked-several-former-sr-71a-staffers-help-secret-restart
>>65548209This is probably another of current NASA director's personal fantasy projects. TBQH its been 25 years and the thing was strung out already they may not be able to do it those staff are over 100 now.
new missions like flybys at the superbowl?
>>65548209That's a lot of work for a mule to carry ram and scram jets up to operational speeds. Using a rocket booster would probably be cheaper long term.
>>65548241High altitude flights
>>65548239you're a faggot
>>65548209The retired dude interviewed seems to not understand NASA ingenuity. >you need a cart to remove the engine! oh no, not a cart! Surely that is LosTech.
>>65548209Reminds me, is it worth going to the airshow at Kennedy Space Center? It is expensive as fuck but the lineup seems decent.>F-104>F-5 four ship>777 aerial research laboratory flypasts>Thunderbirds>Golden KnightsPlus two TBAs, both described as "military".
>>65548271Fuck you I appreciate the aesthetic but pic related me on the right
>>65548322The most unlikely aspect of that entire movie is that a bunch of retards kept a 249 functioning.
>>65548209Sweet
>>65548277What kind of a retarded question is that?Any visit to Kennedy Space Center is worth it.>>65548241Probably flying reconnaissance missions over Iran
>>65548209the Byzantine empire lost the tech for greek fire around 700 AD and never recovered it, despite lasting another 700 yearsI think about this often
>>65548581That's cool but irrelevant to the thread since we're making an SR-72 now.
>>65548602may we see it?
>>65548624It's stealth
>>65548671kek
NASA should fix the A-12 and M21 if they can for the flex.
>>65548680top kek, not gonna happen, would be cheaper and easier to just build an entirely new mach 3+ mothership and mach 5+ daughtership.
>>65548241Rather my taxes pay for that than foodstamps.>>65548363Blackbird is irrelevent for recon in the age of drones and satellites.
If Trump isn't a total faggot he'll bring these things back.
>>65548680It was destroyed when Snake used it, sorry.
>>65548800bothhe'll bring them back and gift them to israel
>former NASA SR-71A staffersThis story is fake.>>65548759>satellitesthe CIA's A-12 became obsolete in 1966, a year before it entered actual operational service thanks to GAMBIT-3 and successorsnot to mention its Air Force derivative cousin that also was just as obsolete on its entry to service 1968 * * * * * * * * * *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeTQhTtrTts* * * * * * * * * *SR-71s were only of interest to NASA for high speed aerodynamic, supersonic researchThere are many other airframes/ways to accomplish those goals in 2020s than in the 1970s
>>65548863amen thank you for your cervix brotha! gobbless until valehalla! UNSC 1992-1993"I carry a .45 because they dont make a .46"I stand with Isreal!
>>65548863>all that fag talkI bet when you suck dick you don't even have the decency to swallow
>>65548581The last recorded instance of Greek fire being used by the Byzantine Empire is the siege of Dyrrhachium in 1108 against the forces of Bohemond I of Antioch.
>>65548759Satellites have fixed orbits and are easily tracked. Drones are jammed. Covert Observations at the edge.Plus it's combo economic stimulus and all the shit cool flybys do.
>>65548863>There are many other airframesThere is no other airframe that can travel at Mach 3.2 at 80,000 feet. Sorry.
>>65548937>>65549152>reeEEEEeeeYes there are retardplenty of UAVs and other hypersonics in the pipelineVideo gamer brainlet gash dilaters
>>65549179Name three.
>>65548209Awww-yeah. SR-71 being re-born. :^)
>>65549180https://www.nasa.gov/hypersonics/https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-facilities/glenn/is-a-mach-4-passenger-jet-possible-nasa-industry-explore-idea/
>>65549612None of those exist.
They need a reusable high speed test asset, that isn’t something that exists currently and it’s questionable to put all your eggs in the startup basket here. If they can get it working it would be very helpful as a carrier/launch platform for hypersonic test assets. It would be nice to see NASA doing aeronautics research that doesn’t receive around lowering price per mile for airlines again.
>>65549626#65549179>in the pipelineSR-71 'exists' in museums. This board is so fucking stupid. Absolute 25-IQ brainletsoh wait sorry: They're video gamers. D'oh my bad
>>65549643You type like a fucking faggot and you were proven wrong. Have the decency to take the L like a man instead of acting like a teenage girl.
>>65549653>hurr 'u type'Robert has been triggered. Video gamer gash dilater (You) seethe harder. kekHates being called what he is: a *brainlet* video gamer. lmfao
>>65548209We have become the dumbest fucking country in the god damn world. Just a bunch of idiots that inherited an amazing apparatus that gave us unending wealth and power and we’ve gone and screwed the golden goose with only a small percentage of people actually benefiting from how we’re handling things. Very bad.
>>65549643>>65549661The SR-71 has been kept in good conditions and by the standards of most refurbishments, it's not been much time at all. The only actual hard part will be the fuel.
>>65549672Never will occur. Ever
>>65548209Cool, another useless toy that won't even get finished. Healthcare pls
>>65549695the A-12 was a useless toy by the time it reached operational service 1966, and the U.S. Air Force's slightly later useless toy was 'justified' during the 1970s and 80s latter-cold-war era with a few combat deployments along with repeated public airshow appearance.Cygnus was a highly impressive aeronautical achievement of its time and was used (YF-12A and SR-71) by NASA for valuable research but the original CIA military reconnaissance purpose it was devised for was made obsolete and superseded by other more advanced technology by the time it was ready to serve in its original role.Whatever the OP is talking about 2026, is total fantasy
>>65549715You posted it again...
>>65549716Having chopped off (You)r own balls creating a gash isn't our problemback to discord, Robert
>>65549179>pipeline>UAV in era of broad spectrum jamming while still HITL.Name a real solution.
>>65550134>a real solutionThere's no justifiable commercial business market for supersonic transports, that's why there hasn't been one in half a century.$$$$ talks and bullshit walks. Same with manned interplanetary space explorationThe aerospace advances and projects of the 1950-1980 era, occurred because massive amounts of $$$$ were flowing in to cold war-related programs, at that time.There is already a spaceplane UAV the X-37 (little of which is known publicly) in progress for more than a decade. There may ? be other projects not even NASA connected, probably run by DARPA or NRO about which we know nothing.
>>65549007that was ersatz, and contemporary sources note it
>>65550202>X-37an unmanned Galosh, how coolnot
>>65549695Stop being a fat bitch.
>>65548209Reverse parachute/skywriting
>>65549661>>65549683You are the epitome of a bitch.
>>65556521Seething isn't going to dilate that gash
>>65549695Kill yourself shill>>65548209Wonder if the idea is to convert it do the crazy shit they did with the Concorde, like chasing eclipses.
>>65549695Leave commie I aint paying for your fat ass
>65549661>65549719>65556530I just think its funny how chudcels know more about post-op hygiene than actual transgenders, lmao.
>>65557006Why is that forging so far off the final dimensions?
>>65557160>reeEEEeeeeyou wnbaw and lost tranny
>>65557161because it'd be retarded to cast it to final dimensions right away and then find out you need to work on an area due to tons of potential production variables.
>>65557565Not to final dimensions, no, that'd be unreasonable, but it looks like they mill away a good 90% of the material still there. They might as well have shaped the whole thing out of a billet and a giant aluminum cutting band saw for all the difference the rest of the forging makes.
>>65548209* the US is now so broke and unable to innovate they are refurbishing 60s-era airframesFixed it for you.
>>65558496s/n 60-6924 Article 121the first OXCARTin flight over Nevada 10 July 1962at this time during its early test flights powered by J75 engines(the second aircraft s/n 60-6925 Article 122 had arrived at Groom Lake two weeks prior and was assigned to several months of RCS testing on the range at Groom Lake before its engines had been installed, it would not fly with J75s until December 1962)the first flightworthy J58 engine was not installed in Article 121 until October 1962 (and then just in the port nacelle); not until 15 January 1963 did the first flight with dual J58 powerplants occur
>>65548863A-12 short service was primarily due to political bullshit around Vietnam(there was a lot)The Blackbird was never quite obsolete. Obviously the increasing capabilities of air defense and their proliferation reduced where it could go, but unlike a satellite that has a known and repeating orbit, this was actual on demand, high altitude surveillance. Allegedly, the US doesn't have anything operational that can do that, evidenced by Congress bringing up returning one to service every 5 or 10 years.Although at this point it's pretty sad that America won't reveal what they've already got in this field, or build something new. Resurrecting 60-year-old retired technology is not exactly the sign of a healthy empire. And yes I know there's probably a lot of yoys we don't know about, but just the same, you have to slam your dick on the table every now and then as a matter of maintaining respect. It doesn't matter how badass you are, consciously or subconsciously the more important thing is always how badass have you been lately?
>>65550202>There's no justifiable commercial business market for supersonic transportsThe thing about infrastructure and aggressive technological innovation is that it never makes sense on paper. Something something Henry Ford if I had asked the people what they wanted they would have said a faster horse. The Concord got grounded purely because of safety, not because it's capability wasn't useful.
>>65548209Surely with the past 40 years of advancements we would be able to build a superior high-speed airframe?
>>65558562>primarilyNo (and you didn't watch the video in post replied to)First of all the A-12 was a *Central Intelligence Agency* project and airplane (despite the 'U.S. Air Force' markings on most of the manufactured Articles that were for deception purposes). The co-sponsor and administrator with CIA of the A-12 was the NRO — National Reconnaissance Office (that made the explanatory video in preceding post video you didn't watch). By 1966 new imaging capabilities in low Earth orbit satellites the NRO was using to observe the Soviet Union and China had surpassed what a photographic overflight aircraft (or even hypersonic ramjet drone, the D-21) could accomplish. In July 1966 the BoB (Bureau of Budget) questioned what *both* the CIA's OXCART and U.S. Air Force's (separate airplane/project, multisensor reconnaissance instead of the CIA's photographic overflight A-12) SENIOR CROWN SR-71 programs were achieving for the money and resources expended on each. A 12 December 1966 meeting was held among the participants in which only Director of Central Intelligence Helms cast the 'no' dissenting vote about terminating the programs. At this time the Air Force's SR-71 was scheduled for initial operational capability in September 1967, events in Indochina / the Vietnam war were escalating, and the team leaders concurred on assigning the high altitude Mach 3 reconnaissance missions to USAF's SR-71 fleet. As it turned out the two different CIA / USAF aircraft were deployed during the ensuing year to Indochina operations in BLACK SHIELD (the CIA's A-12) and a domestic fly-off between the two types was also held to compare capabilities in Nov 1967. As of May 1968 the SecDef and president Johnson made the official decision to retire the CIA's OXCART.Both the SR-71 and A-12 were obsolete by the time of their late 1960s entry into service; the A-12 was completely retired by CIA and its eight produced Articles mothballed in 1968.
>>65548602SR-72 has been "under development" for almost two decades now.
>>65558568The quote (You) greentexted was about economics, not technology.>purely because of safetyNo. Concorde operated at a massive financial loss its entire operational duration, and additionally only even was ever designed/manufactured thanks to massive government subventions from the participant nations. The cost of operating large supersonic passenger transports can't be justified from a business financial perspective; the planes are too expensive in fuel costs and maintenance for the seat-miles delivered.
>>65558613>the planes are too expensive in fuel costs and maintenance for the seat-miles deliveredYeah it's a shame that Aeronautics hasn't advanced at all since the seventies.>>65558598Yeah I didn't watch that shit, and I'm not reading all the dog shit you've just posted, because I'm already well familiar with both aircraft and their operational history. You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded, by the way.
>>65559270>well familiarkek (You) know less than nothing and have been btfo from this topic18 years is the minimum age to post on this siteEnglish is the language here
>>65560355You're really bad at this you know. It doesn't matter how much pilpul you shit out of your pie hole, you founded your argument upon the idea that the plane was obsolete when it entered service. Which is a hell of a claim to make seeing as it held a capability that was never done before or since, and the program ran for 25 years. A plane so obsolete it set records in the 90s that still stand today. I don't know what's wrong with you, but you really ought to get your head checked. Or just kill yourself. That works too. I could see you being a furry or some other sort of failed male lol
>>65560927>A plane so obsolete it set records in the 90s that still stand today.Secretariat also set a bunch of records but nobody was dropping their car to run out and buy a horse.
They're expecting a situation where satelites are destroyed and want backup options.
>>65560927>completely BTFO, mald turned up to 11
>>65561292X-37 (recoverable spaceplane, not a stationary sat) exists and is an ongoing NRO project.Mach 3 spyplanes became totally forever obsolete (GAMBIT-3 already had done so a decade prior) in 1976 with the operational introduction of KH-11 Evolved Enhanced CRYSTAL aka Key Hole live real time hi-res digital imaging. (CIA's A-12 was retired by NRO - AF - Agency concurrence in 1968 and the SR-71 only survived additional U.S. Air Force limited service due to continued 1970s-80s repeated requests to Congress for re-funding it that had already been placed in severe doubt from 1970 onward, not to mention the gov climate towards mil + intelligence gathering from the mid-1970s Church Committee hearings forward. It's over; Mach 3 stratosphere spyplanes were dead & buried half a century ago upon their entry into servicewatch the NRO video # 65548863 itt
