It's happening today at 5:30 ET. Source: My uncle works for NAVAIR.
I doubt it, but would be nice.
>>65549192Liar. Every one look at this liar man and laugh at him.
>>6554919225 minutes to go. The other Anon is retarded.
https://www.war.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/4614270/contracts-for-sept-29-2026/Doesn't look like it.
>>65549250>war.govI hate this gay-ass timeline.
My bets are on Boeing and it being called F/A-45.
>>65549192Nah, it's going to be on October 2 to coincidence with the main release of Ace Combat 8.Source: My dad works at Bandai Namco
>>65549192> 10 mins before this twitter postwitnessedhttps://x.com/__CJohnston__/status/2105038262909956193What's your hope for the program OP?
>>65549192https://breakingdefense.com/2026/09/boeing-navy-ngad-faxx-next-gen-fighter-competition-northrop/Right on time, Boeing wins
>>65549334Well good luck seeing F/A-XX before 2045.
>>65549314Tell your gay fucking dad to stop putting yurislop in my giant robot animu
Damn guess I should move to STL for a job
>>65549334>Hung Cao, the acting navy secretary>hung cao>navy secretaryThe absolute state
>>65549314It released today for people who bought the deluxe edition so it still fits
So a navalized F-47 or a bespoke plane?
>>65549389>Viet refugees, dad was a bigwig in the SV government >Enlisted in the navy >Ultra-mustanged it and retired 0-6 >College degree in naval engineering >EOD, Naval Parachutist and SWO>Did some spook shit at the end of his career >Did a bunch of anti-drone stuff in the navy and private sector Yeah, pretty cool guy.
>>65549396F-47 is too big.XA102/103 are too wide for a twin engine navalized fighter and everything points to them using a much smaller lower thrust version of the adaptive cycle core. The real commonality between the two will likely be in software, not hardware.
>>65549396The rumor going around was that Boeing designed an absolute stellar F/A-XX and then used that as a basis for the Air Force's bid. Essentially "denavalizing" the aircraft, which turns out to be much better strategy than going the other way.
>>65549387Kansas City Anon here. No, you should not. Trust me.
>>65549422>Essentially "denavalizing" the aircraft, which turns out to be much better strategy than going the other way.Yes, it avoids much naval gazing.
>>65549422>The rumor going around was that Boeing designed an absolute stellar F/A-XX and then used that as a basis for the Air Force's bidDo you have a single fact to back this up?
>>65549192https://www.war.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/4614331/department-of-war-and-us-navy-award-contract-for-fa-xx-program/
>>65549460OP called it correctly, so there's an above average chance that the rumors about this program are credible.
>>65549460No, did you read the first four words?
I told you all it was going to be Boeing and you didn’t want to listen.
>PIC RELATEDis the future "carrier" and "6th gen" naval fighter
>>65549258You are gay
>>65549482that was kino when they did it in macross zero
>>65549460We know the Navy, Air Force, and DARPA all tossed money into the pot for the Aerospace Innovation Initiative, which was the program name that developed the demonstrators. Anything beyond this will officially be rumors that cannot technically be substantiated. The “rumor” goes that Lockheed and Boeing each tailored their demonstrator more towards what one branch wanted to see. Boeing has a very strong relationship with the Navy, as they produce most of the airframes they operate nowadays both in type and quantity. Lockheed targeted the Air Force. However Boeing was able to also do a lot of what the Air Force wanted to see on their ostensibly Navy targeted demonstrator. Lockheed’s on the other hand was a bit of a shit show. It flew years later than the Boeing offering, was overall less impressive, and had certain flaws that were not going to be easily addressed if they carried the design to production. From what I have heard this included significant stability issues in certain parts of the flight envelope. Northrop did not participate in this program, they were too busy with B-21 when contracts were handed out. This was why they were never going to win, Boeing had a very successful demonstrator to point to, Northrop as far as I know did not. The industrial base concerns were mostly the Boeing did not have production space to execute both. That this news comes as the St. Louis facility expansion phase one is reaching completion on some buildings isn’t a coincidence.
>>65549429Already live in SIL so MO would be an improvement Could just commute
>>65549490Think you swapped L and B But too your point didnt Beoing beat Lockheed by a year in the fly off?
>>65549422This post >>65549408 proves that's not true.
>>65549507You live in East Saint Louis, Illinois? How many times have you been robbed?
>>65549515No, even worse as far as we know they beat them by about three years. DARPA presser for F-47 quotes first flights for X planes in 2019 and 2022. Could be closer to two years depending on exact dates, which I do not know, but Boeing has been known to have these in the bag since about the time Lockheed finally got their bird in the air and it became clear there were significant disparities. Reading through my post again I don’t think I mixed them up anywhere, what part do you think I got mixed up?
Boeing render.
>>65549192Do we know when they'll show off both the F/A-XX and F-47? 2028?
what are the odds that the F-47 program is currently a shitshow? everything's behind closed doors so i dont think we'd hear about it until a couple years from now, but considering what's going on with T-7 and KC-46 before that, i have serious doubts that Boing! could have miraculously stopped being shit and done things half competently with NGAD
>>65549548The shit show is coming from NGAPBasically the engines aren't going to be ready until the early/mid 2030s, so the entire first production lot or two of F-47 will have to use interim engines. But since there isn't any interim engine that's the exact size/weight of the XA102/103 engines, it's likely going to require extensive modifications whenever the new engines are ready.
>>65549567If the engines aren't ready yet, how do we even know they're going to be a given size/weight in the first place? Interim solutions have a habit of becoming permanent solutions in situations like this.
>>65549585Both companies have submitted designs that have iirc passed the needed approval milestones to begin prototype production, with parts currently in fabrication. Dimensionally they shouldn’t really be changing from here, however there’s a massive amount of validation and testing to be done, with any needed changes being most likely to come in the form of things like alloy composition and blade design, not so much footprint.
>>65549567>designing an aircraft around an engine that doesnt existlol wtf, i thought the air force could do acquisition in a slightly less retarded manner than the navy, guess i havent been following things closely enoughi suppose the nice thing for boeing is that they'll have something in production by the time that NGAP inevitably gets canceled, so at best, they'll end up with another ~300 airframe tech demo like the F-22
>>65549599The F-22 ended the way it did because the Cold War was "over" and because Obama was a Manchurian aligned president. We won't see that again unless another, rather overt Chinese ally ends up in the White House.
>>65549599F119 was developed alongside F-22. F135 was developed alongside F-35. There’s been some issue with timeline slip as none of this r&d was funded as well as it needed to be in the Biden budgets, but there’s nothing all that strange about what they’re doing here.
>>65549625>nothing all that strange about what they’re doing hereTrump rushing the F-47 EMD is what's wrong.
>>65549624The Senate voted 58–40 to strip $1.75 billion in F-22 funding from the fiscal year 2010 defense bill.Yeah Obama threatened to veto if they didn't remove the F-22, but it wasn't really that divisive at the time.
>>65549548Boeing wouldn't be awarded F/A-XX if they were bungling F-47, use your brain for 5 seconds.
>>65549630Demonstrator flew in 2019. 9 years from demonstrator flight to EMD first flight is an eternity. The program needed to get back on track after the budget doldrums of the Covid/Biden years and is being provisioned to do so.
>>65549631Probably because it was political suicide to stand against the cult of Hope and Change at the time. Let's not forget that they were so thrilled that Obama wasn't George W. Bush that they gave him the Nobel Peace Prize for it.
>giving all the orders to Boeingwhat a bunch of retards
>>65549650Boeing really isn’t performing any worse than the other major primes and had the strongest demonstrator in the fly off program. There’s nobody it actually makes more sense to give to, they were the only horse in the race
>>65549637you sure? this is the same Boeing that assassinates whistleblowers in broad daylight and gets away with it. if there was ever a defense contractor that could bribe their way into winning a contract while simultaneously fucking up multiple contracts that they've already been awarded, it'd be Boeing
>>65549658Literally didn't happen
>>65549647I mean at a certain point you need to have some responsibility in it. Calling Obama a manchurian president because of that is just retardation.
>>65549192Will Boeing's F/A-XX be a navalized version of the F-47? Are we getting the F-4 Phantom all over again?
>>65549667Given his explicit embrace of degrowth and the total stagnation of the US economy since the 2008 financial crisis that he used to cripple the US economy to this very day, I am more than willing to blame him and his apparent anti-American sentiments for things.
>>65549658>the same Boeing that assassinates whistleblowers in broad daylightDo people actually believe this? I thought it was just a meme.
>>65549528Nah nigga the corn fields>>65549531Nvm
>>65549676Other way around, the F-47 is a de-navalized F/A-XX. So yes we are getting another Phantom.
>>65549703I hope they call it the Phantom III then.
>>65549717Alleged program patch for the demonstrator had it called Voodoo II, though with them sweeping the competition and it being an open question how similar the designs are Phantom III is certainly not out of the running
>>65549258Too true
>>65549535
>>65549535I can see a Super Bug/Raptor intake copypasted to the model there so this is probably a meme render
>>65549759Of course it is, none of the renders shown off for NGAD or F/A-XX have been representative of the actual airframes.
>>65549650meanwhile lockheed has 1500 orders backlogged for f-35 and northrop is busy fumbling sentinel (but nobody wants to talk about that)
>>65549765I want to believe...
>>65549769Maybe
>>65549769Well that one was made by an Argentinian guy for his instagram like ten years ago before being licensed to RTX as a cheap placeholder render, so it’s almost certainly not that.
>>65549657It's not about their "performance" per se, it's about having a healthy ecosystem in the MIC, where companies routinely make good shit, keep up their competencies and get profits to finance their crap in the future. You don't want to end up with a monopsony, where a single contractor will dictate to you how and what you'll have to buy because you've stopped having choice.
>>65549820Lockheed has F-35 to sustain them for decades to come and can play design house for others if anyone gets the money and wants a 5th/6th gen airframe in europe/asia. Northrop has B-21 and LGM-35 to sustain them for decadesBoeing getting both 6th gen fighters is just as "bad" as lockheed when they got both 5th gen fighters. It will likely reduce the available contractors for fighter aircraft from 3 to 2, but Northrop's F/A-XX was really their hail mary attempt to save their own fighter division. It's not a MASSIVE loss since they haven't done a fighter for decades anyway. This was their last ditch attempt to get back in, and it failed.The US is still left with two modern prime contractors capable of delivering stealth fighters.
>>65549389Hung Cao ain't a chink.And he's also based.
>>65549851LM seems to be making a lot of the higher end loyal wingman/CCA drones. Also the SR-72 if youre still a blackbird II truther.
>>65549910>sr-72Is it even trutherism when the company starts the damn rumor?
So, it'll be a ghost, not a cat.
>>65549924There is no telling if they actually did much of anything with it. Honestly it could have just been clever marketing to maybe draw up interest. As far as I am aware the DoD never asked for it, so they would have had to of funded and flew that thing all on their own. I imagine that would be way too expensive even for LM
Naming convention rankings>Sexual Innuendo>Cats>Ghosts>Native American Tribes>NATO Alphabet Boggle>Birds>Weather events>Cities and States>Soldiers>Numbers>Presidents
>>65549334After lockjeet dropping the ball on the fifth gens and boingo dropping the ball on the sixth gens, at least the seventh gens will be as unbeatable as the B-2 still is forty years later.
>>65549955Not enough buzzwords in your post, Vatnik. Try harder next time
>>65549192How is Boeing (McDD dept.) coming out of nowhere and beating everyone at the same time that Boeing (spacecraft) and Classic Boeing (airliners and airliner acces--err, airliner-derived military aircraft) are wrecking every program they have? Have the Mudhen and SuperBug programs somehow produced top-notch 5th-gen engineers? How have the Chicago bean-counters and DC lobbyists not fired the remaining competent employees to save a few pennies?
>>65549994Supposedly they planned on winning both contracts the entire time and were building their entire new manufacturing line and other infrastructure specifically to handle both programs simulteanously. They also were flying first back in 2019, 2-3 years before lockheed. And rumor is lockheed was still having stability issues that boeing simply wasn't, on top of having years longer in flight testing to refine their own designs and software. They basically made it indefensible for the military to choose anyone else.
>>65549994They bet the farm on winning the next generation competitions and had inherited all of McDonnell’s work on tailless stealth fighters from the 1990s. Phantomworks is no slouch, they had spent the period after JSF and before NGAD bidding any DARPA work they could get. They weren’t at all poorly positioned tech base wise, and invested the most to win because they would be knocked out of the fighter game if they lost.
>>65549994Boeing's defense and civilian halves have different regulatory requirements. You cannot, in fact, just outsource the software programming of a US fighter jet to India, as much as the C Suite wishes they could, and an engineer who wants to go from the civilian to military side is effectively applying for a new job (while engineers who want to go the other way don't exist). There are structural barriers to hollowing out major defense contractors for a quick payday that, for "freedom reasons" don't exist for major industrial pillars of the civilian economy.
>>65549994The commercial airliner executives in Seattle/Chicago literally did not have the security clearances required to walk in and micromanage Phantom Works' black projects. The defense engineers were effectively insulated from the commercial division's corporate culture.
So Boeing is putting out the jets, NG is putting out the bombers, and LM is putting out the CCA with loyal wingman drones like the Vectis that will fly alongside all of this. Am I missing anything?
>>65550075Lockheed has 0 confirmed orders for any CCA, and in fact are behind Northrop and Boeing who both have actual drones ready to bid and not just renders. Lockheed is drowning in the F-35 backlog and that will occupy most of their attention probably at least into the 2050s
>>65550075Yeah, your dad is putting out pawjobs for a dollar apiece on the USS Lincoln to raise morale.
>>65549759They are much wider than either Hornet or Raptor intakes and there is no diverter that both those planes have.
>>65549535It has canards.
>>65550089yes to aesthetically pleasing wideboy lifting bodies
>>65549994imagine if fucking canards solved the problem, kept costs and complexity down and won them the contract over LM proposing some insane nose mounted cold air thrust vectoring warlock shit.
>>65550099This bolsters the "F-47 is F/A-XX" theory, which has the same configuration. It explains how and where the aircraft achieves low airspeed performance for carrier landings, too.
>>65550115And HLC's F-22 character gets more reasons to keep saying canards are gay. Win/win
>>65549954>Native American TribesI hope one day we get something named after the Tlingit, the coolest of the redskins
>>65550099Looks like both the canard and wing are dihedral. That’s likely to become Boeing’s visual “trademark” so to speak going forward. I don’t hate it, it’s an interesting look. The angle obfuscates it a bit on first look, but the cockpit and nose area looks very similar to the F-47 renders.
>>65549778This guy's stuff is cool, would be a lot of fun for games.
>>65550099That engine housing exhaust looks huge as fuck in the back. If that's anyway representative of the actual aircraft it makes me wonder how big production of the adaptive cycle engines are going to be.
>>65550131Navy at least claims they aren’t going to use those, but rather a derivative engine of something already in service. If I had to guess the engines are just high set. Placement helps shield the blades from radar, and perhaps more importantly would free up space for weapon bays. Even 4x2000lb class munitions is demanding to fit inside a stealth aircraft, especially one limited to carrier size. They need all the room in the lower fuselage they can get, and that’s a good way to get it.
>>65550120Yeah I agree. Also looks to be very close to the "Christmas tree" design that Northrup Grumman pioneered many years ago, just more modernized. That layout supposedly has a very, very low RCS.
>>65550152Definitely. Not quite as extreme without the dorsal inlets, but I’d say between this and the Area 51 footage Boeing has definitely gone down that road. Also notable that the wingtips are both obscured, would be very surprised if they aren’t concealing anhedral wingtips there.
>canardsAPOLOGISE
So the area 51 footage is almost certainly of a Boeing test bed and they've been flying those for a while knowing Boeing was going to win. I wonder if that was the F-47, or F/A-XX demonstrator(or whatever more advanced prototype)now.
>>65550163>would be very surprised if they aren’t concealing anhedral wingtips thereWell considering they did make and fly the Bird of Prey, there is familiarity there so it would make sense. I personally find it to be a bit ugly so I hope it doesnt.
>>65550186I think they’d have to be there, both out of familiarity and also to help stability and maintain control of the aircraft during carrier landing. A tailless aircraft will need all the help it can get there, especially when the weather is not being cooperative
You really have to be retarded to read these threads>>65549490>>65549531Same grammar and takes every chance to change his story. First it's two years and then it's three years. From a whatever post on 4chan.
>>65549535>J-50 at home
>>65550248J-50 is quite literally the Temu knockoff of whatever data they were able to hack from Boeing.
>>65550256>flying plane is the temu knock-off of a pdfSeems about right
>>65550040How did they manage to botch the KC-46 and P-8 so badly for so many years, then? Were those held to a lesser standard than the F-15 and F-18 because they were based on airliners?
>>65550242I don’t know the date of first flight. One flew in 2019, the other in 2022. DARPA said as much. But we don’t know what month. If one flies late 2019 and the other early 2022 that isn’t three years. If it’s the opposite it could be nearly four. All I’ve ever said is I heard a few things that have so far turned out to be right.
>>65550040What the fuck is this psychobabble nonsense.All of Boeing has been fucking up for a decade. All of it. It isn't even for a quick payday, they're simply non-competitive. As a business they haven't functioned for years.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_StarlinerHere's an example of your vaunted Boeing defense division.
>>65549399Had me at mustang. Based af.
>>65549192>>65549334How much did you make on polymarket, OP?
>>65550248>>65550266>>65550268>>65550280
>>65549334So is the future of US air superiority officially dead now?
>>65550290>t. raging brownoid
>>65549724Not an auspicious name selection.
>>65549192Those look like shit.>canards>no vertical finsLike a goddamned flatfish. There's a nice NATO reporting name, Flatfish
I like how it’s immediately all doom and gloom once most of the country’s asleep and the sun is in that other part of the world
>>65550280Different team from the fighter program. Starliner team knew that they had infinite budget until Musk came along and humiliated them.
>>65550316I don't see how you think what you just said helps your argument.
>>65550302Is this the cope you're really going to go with, Dong Tu Smol?
>>65550316Uh, and?
>>65550308Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're the only one in this thread posting from the Virgin Islands. This is still America hours.
>>65550350Nah. Americans have a quite strict 8:30pm beddy-bye time. They wouldn't be up this late.
>>65550360>beddy-byeThere's no hyphen in the words beddy bye, ESL.
>>65549482>TEN MILLION LIVES
>>65550350Man its 1am east coast and every board goes to shit at the same time every night, because that part of the world wakes up and clocks in at their job of making the internet worse
>>65550390Connecting South East Asia to the internet, sans Japan and maybe South Korea, was a mistake.
About damn time they moved ahead with the Navy's 6th-gen fighter. Last I read about the F/A-XX, it's going to be the cheaper 6th-gen vs the F-47 but what could they possibly save on besides the size (which would naturally lead to other smaller and lighter components) to make the cost savings meaningful? The technological developments being explored for next-generation fighters in both the US and across the Pacific are bleeding-edge.
>>65550182>So the area 51 footage is almost certainly of a Boeing test bedIt doesn't look anything like the render Boeing put out today.
>>65549696A lot of people believe in that sort of thing
>>65550395100% this
>>65549696A political or business committee ordering a death over millions of dollars is even easy than a single person deciding.A single person might have guilt. If you have three people deciding, each one can tell themselves>It wouldn't have made any difference if I had said no, the other two said yes so it would have happened anyways
>>65550280The F-15 and F-18 programs have been quietly but steadily improving over time. That said, Boeing/McDD went 0-2 in the 5th gens, laughably so with the X-35.
>>65550529iirc, there was some chicanery on the Joint Strike Fighter program that happened late and more or less guaranteed that the Boeing team could not offer a competitive bid with how far along and how little time left there was to build their prototype.
>>65550529>That said, Boeing/McDD went 0-2 in the 5th gens>The prime contractor, Lockheed Martin, built most of the F-22 airframe and weapons systems and conducted final assembly, while program partner Boeing provided the wings, aft fuselage, avionics integration, and training systems.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor>Boeing is teamed with Lockheed Martin, Pratt & Whitney and the U.S. Air Force to develop the F/A-22 Raptor as a replacement for the F-15. >A $9.55 billion contract for F/A-22 Engineering and Manufacturing Development, or EMD, was awarded to the Lockheed Martin/Boeing contractor team in August 1991.https://fbaum.unc.edu/lobby/_107th/122_EA-6B_Prowler/Organizational_Statements/boeing_fa22_background_info.htmBoeing also played a huge role in the B-2 program.https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/08/02/Boeing-reveals-size-of-its-role-in-Stealth-bomber/4277618033600/And like you said, the F/A-18 SH block III upgrades have went extremely smooth, as has the F-15EX, and MQ-25 programs.
>>65549399>>Ultra-mustanged it and retired 0-6What does mustang mean in a USN context?
>>65550665Enlisted to officer
>>65550667Thanks.I can see how that would get respect, especially from enlisted.Is there a special badge or anything for it?
>>65550557I believe the issue was that JSF had always been Lockheed’s to lose, as they’d been the prime on a DARpA project to develop technologies for a next generation STOVL fighter. So they basically had a multi year head start on the most make or break part of the competition, and very naturally swept it as they were the only one a capable vertical lift element that actually met program requirements. It was hilariously far from fair, but in a way that couldn’t really be easily protested.
>>65550390>>65550395>>65550507we must retvrn. the numbers only get worse by the day, 30 percent of india iks yet to access the internet for the first time.
>>65550751It's like being cast out of the Garden of Eden. We can never go back.
>>65550811We can. We already have cable cutters, just not the will to use them.
>>65550751>India >36% of the country had internet in 2019It's going to get worse isn't it?
>>65550366kill yourself you fat nigger dipshit https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beddy-bye
Remember when /k/ was laughing at stealth canards?
Are fog machines mandatory for 6th gen fighters?
>>65550692You can get increased officer pay grade to account for your time in as enlisted.Mainly it's just the respect thing. Enlisted feel you understand and relate to them better, standard commissioneds know that you earned your O grade more than they did.
>>65550316It's also worth mentioning that NASA, and the various congresses that have controlled it, are a big part of why Starliner has been such a mess. The whole program has been a clusterfuck of shifting requirements and timelines, intermittent funding, problems with subcontractors who are often only involved because some congressman demanded that they get the work, etc. Somebody, maybe Scott Manley but I can't remember, did a good video a while back explaining a lot of it.
>>65550266While I do appreciate the trolling, anyone who doesn't live under a rock knows that yes, chinks in fact often make knock-off before the original product actually is put into production. Because making something which looks similar, based on leaks and espionage, is easier than actually making a good product after a long development cycle. Normies can see a good example of this with iPhones, when chinks often release a clone before the actual product is even announced.
>>65550751>brown internet theory
>>65550954Thank you for defending me, anon. You're a cool dude.
>>65549490>Lockheed’s on the other hand was a bit of a shit show. It flew years later than the Boeing offering, was overall less impressive, and had certain flaws that were not going to be easily addressed if they carried the design to production.Reverse X-32/35?
>>65551011You can see them clearly on IR if they don't use the fog generator.
>>65551084Funding problems don't take away the three problems that lie at Boeing's feat:1. The specifications they went with for the thruster banks were decided without any thermal modeling or testing2. The spacecraft leads never did any systems integration engineering and assumed it would all work, and outsourced the software to run it3. They dismissed the concerns from NASA on these subjects because they were Boeing, and they knew better, and were difficult to work withUltimately, Boeing learned the hard way just how expensive it is to be cheap.
>>65551292>featfeet*
>>65551084Pretty much none of that is true, Starliner is a mess because Boeing space is a clusterfuck that is culturally stuck in the nineties.
>>65551292"funding problems" meaning Boeing was used to being able to make a project as expensive as they could get away with and couldn't do so under firm fixed price
>>65551313The important thing to note about being culturally stuck in the 90s: the MBAs had fully taken over management decisions by this point, and decision making was guided by optimizing for contract returns. This ultimately translates into doing the worst job they can get away with because the Government was their only customer and they were used to sudden cancellations by that point, so they optimized their processes to turn a profit on programs that go nowhere, and high cost programs that did the job but were more focused on being high cost than being competitive. This is a major part of what opened the door to SpaceX's disruption of the launch industry.
>>65549926>spectre>apparition Idk if I spelled last one right but that’s the only two I can think of.
Entering this discussion to say: Congressional meddling in SLS was a travesty. Fuck Utah and their stupid fucking boosters.
>>65550815it must be done, they must also be removed from the White man's lands to ensure they can no longer desecrate anything not intended for the 70iq mongrel.>>65550920>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_India>As of 2025, 7 in 10 Indians are now online, with 70% internet penetration>>65551095it is no theory the Internet is much more centralized and filled with people who should never have been allowed within 5000 miles of a microchip and agitprop botsto keep on topic, had F/A-XX development started on a level playing field timeline wise would locksneed have the experience to develop a complete naval fighter on their own? this is boeing's forte after all.
>>65551332Wraith. Revenant. Banshee. Geist.
>>65549192NOOOOOOOFUCK YOU BOEINGFUCK YOU DONFUCK YOU USNNOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>65549637Yeah there'd never be a shambolic and corrupt procurement disaster within the US MICThat can't happen
>>65551547Anon you aren't supposed to double down on being a slobbering retard.
How the fuck is Boeing winning these contracts? They are such shit.
>>65551091Idk about that one chief the newest iPhone series are copies of Xiaomi designs and the iPhone Duo is a blatant rip-off of the Huawei Pura X
>>65550287None, because that would be illegal.
>>65551728implessive
>>65551746Indeed Mutts can't make phones for shit
>>65551705The civilian Boeing is basically another company than military Boeing
>>65551818No it's the same company that operates two different divisional sectors. One is military and the other is civilian.
>>65551818The military branch has been fucking up as well.
>>65551728Implessive!
Read the catalog >>65551358
>>65551569Boeing is a huge company and their fighter division is one of if not the only part of the company that is still on the ball.Also >>65549422
>>65551839...this is the older thread moron> 09/30/26(Wed)12:08:38 No.65551358> 09/29/26(Tue)16:45:22 No.65549192
>>65551839Retarded faggot know it all cunt trying to correct people while being wrong. Tale as old as time.
>>65551930Oh yeah? Prove it
>>65551871>>65551930The timing of this thread makes no sense.
>>65551728Nice cope
This, the F-47, and Trump's stupid battleship are getting cancelled the second he leaves office.
>>65549926>>65551332>>65551350Spook, Golliwog, Sambo, Rastus
>>65552010You are quite literally retarded.
>>65552032in 2043
