Thank YHWH that the industry is so oversaturated and that basically all barriers of entry to suppressor ownership have been removed. For far too long, suppressor manufacturers have been able to overcharge by 250% at least for what is essentially just a metal tube, just because of the commitment (and $200 tip) required. And people were happy to pay it.But things are different. The sorts of prices we are seeing now would have been unthinkable even 3 years ago. Everyone who wants a suppressor pretty much has one. The question is, how much lower will we see prices go? I know Europoors get $50 no-frills direct thread aluminum cans for hunting rifles which never get too hot. Do you think we're ever going to see it that low?
>>65549430Someone needs to corner the market on Form 1 kits.
>>65549430> I know Europoors get $50 no-frills direct thread aluminum cans for hunting rifles which never get too hot. Do you think we're ever going to see it that low?yes for that exact reason, some fudd is gonna get one for his durr rifle.some based liberal will make it a law requiring supressors for hunting, making everything more based.
PLEASE KEEP CRASHING
still not gonna celebrate until we don't have to register themanyone with a brain would move for them to be unrestricted indefinitely
>>65549942Anyone with a brain not addicted to krokodil wouldn’t want American style school shootings and swivel eyed wackos to start using suppressors and get them banned again for serious collectors?
>>65549993>serious>collectors
>>65549430A tube with a couple of washers in it should cost $40 made in the west and $4 made in the east.
>>65549993Shut the fuck up, bitch.
Until they're direct order straight to your door they'll never crash to near raw material prices.ARs took decades to get to this point
>>65549430Have leftoids ever fearmongered over compensators?>it LITERALLY negates the recoil and lets you shoot like a laser!
>>65550221As a leftoid please learn the difference between the left and authoritarians.I want everyone to defend their legal coke crop with legal machinguns.
>>65550221I recall flash hiders being considered "scary features" on occasion during the Feinstein era, but I dont think they've ever gotten that specific over their function.
>>65550241As a leftoid you should kys
>>65550260As a rightoid you should learn basic economics.
>>65550312I dont care about money.
>>65550221Yes.>>65550241That's not left. Left is power from the system; Stalinism Moaism, Fascism, National Socialism.Right is power in the individual. Anarchism is as far right as you can get.Stop buying the bullshit of classifying political spectrum based on social issues stances.A constitutional republic of pure misogynists or one of pure feminists is still a consitutional republic.
>>65550430Fascism is the authoritarian right as shown by they economically right policies like privatizing banking.Communism is the authoritarian left as shown by their economically left polices like the nationalization of banking.I'm an economically left social libertarian that wants people to have maximal freedom while natural monopolies and banking are nationalized.The 1950s which many understand to have had the highest level of economic freedom for the working class were built of socialist economic policy like the 90%+ top tax bracket.This ain't /pol/ as I won't elaborate beyond that.
>>65550454I wonder what else we had in the 50s that allowed the material and social conditions everyone enjoyed and wants back?
>>65549942You don't have to register them. That's what the whole 5th circuit lawsuit was about. Retard..
>>65550461Retards focus on race, those that read focus on economic policy.Thanks to improvements in education an inner city high school has more literacy than 1950s suburbs.
>>65550466All the economic policy in the world isn't going to stop someone getting stabbed on the subway. That social strain creates its own economic knock-on effects. All economics is downstream of whether or not you have a homogenous society.
>>65550258Leftoids have passed AWBs blanket banning threaded muzzles as a spooky feature so you can'thave any muzzle device on the gun yoj have to weld on a brake. I know New Jersey has a ban, so does New York, and Washington. A few other states probably do too.
>>65550474Crime rates have drastically reduced from the 50s mainly because everyone isn't breathing lead all day.The media plays it up because fear drives views but check some stats and see for yourself instead of falling for propaganda.As things get worse for the working class I expect crime rates to start increasing again out of desperation and that kind of crime can 100% be fixed with economic policy.
>>65550480Literally no economic policy is going to prevent someone with an IQ of 80 from harming others over perceived slights or schizophrenic hallucinations. The only thing that will is physical and social separation. You are a deluded freak moron who will be burned upon the pyre of the very god you worship. May God have mercy on your soul.
>>65550221hell yes they have
>>65550484>Literally no economic policy is going to prevent someone with an IQ of 80 from harming others over perceived slights or schizophrenic hallucinationsCorrect, I never said it would. What would help in that case would be a well funded public mental health program, of course you want to minimize the cost of such a program so having it publicly owned and operated means no stock dividends or buybacks reducing total cost.Remind me, what's it called when the state owns things they provide at no direct cost to the public?
>>65550466Low effort bait.
>>65550491As you bleed out on the floor of the train car your last words are going to be >he... didn't... have... enough... money.. for... dem.. programs...andd we will all laugh at you.
>>65549942Anon this opinion is disrespectful to lawyers. Their BMW payment is more important than your “constitutional rights.” Think before you post next time.
>>65549430>ARs are like 500 bucks now>Suppressors are in free fall >You can get good thermal scopes for 2k now>Ceramic body armor is as cheap as steel used to beThis hobby is getting too cheap. I can no longer flex on poorfags
>>65549993Better yet, we hang gender-affirming-care doctors in gibbets along major roadways and subject Columbine and O9A-adjacent faggots to the Brazen Bull, streamed live on CSPAN. How about that?
>>65550258I completely forgot about that bitch or how she died in 23. Fuck me, I need to make the pilgrimage just to piss on that harpy's grave, maybe bring a suppressor and a printed copy of Bruen just to make her seethe even harder in her eternity in hell, knowing she didn't just fail, she royally fucking failed.
>>65551246Go with the /k/ standard method: buying hideously overpriced shit, then flexing with that while insisting it's superior despite not being able to explain why. Sure you're an idiot to anyone capable of independent thought, but don't let that stop you.
>>65551339Ok but this is genuinely the only 556 suppressor that I can fire indefinitely without my ears hurting even a little. No gases to the face, hearing safe enough, yes this is worth it.
>>655513391100 used to just be the going rate for a good 7.62 suppressor. But I'm glad that's no longer the case
>>65549430Top row is literal who of suppressor companies... but your point is valid. We should really see the price of trad design SS/Aluminum baffle stack non-modular suppressors begin to plummet, especially as these things hopefully continue down the path of deregulation. That said, 3d printed Ti and Inconel suppressors will still likely stay just as expensive as they have been. The R&D + the waste generated by the printing process means they're natively much more expensive than water jet & cnc stuff. tldr; Sure your YHM and Gemtech stuff will probably get cheaper, but don't expect your CATs and Huxworks to get cheaper any time soon.
>>65551240You're thinking about dentists and your teeth, Anon.t. guy with eight medically unnecessary fillings because my childhood dentist wanted to make his Mercedes payments.P.S. -- I should note, after he retired and I had to dentist-hop for a while, three more dentists tried pulling the same scam -- "You have a cavity that needs to be drilled and filled!!!" then next dentist says "What cavity?? There's no cavity." Repeat multiple times as I hop through multiple dentists. . . .
>>65551339I dont think ive ever seen a Q anything posted to /k/, thankfully
Looks like a good place to ask.What's a good option for babby's first AR suppressor? I've got a 16" AR-15 in 5.56. but I've also got an AR-10 that I'd like a can on too. I'm game for getting separate suppressors over time, but my budget isn't unlimited. Just looking for something dependable and functional.
>>65549430I plan on buying a top $$$ 556 upperand bottom dollar 308 can
>>65551374>literal who of suppressor companiesWelcome to 2026. I'm not paying $800+ for your rollmark, I'm buying from the new upstarts with reasonable prices that will put you out of business.I'm not exaggerating here. A lot of these companies can, should, and will go out of business in the coming years. Because they're inefficient boutique brands run by greedy retards who can't adapt to the new breed of companies optimizing production at scale and price to consumer. And if your business can't survive without a 300% margin, frankly you deserve a lot worse than bankruptcy.
>>65551246Yeah if you like cheapslop instead of cool things
>>65551493$3500 for a SCAR today is like paying $1000 for a SCAR in 2009, when they were retailing for $3500 new
>>65551339Kek >>65551493 there it is, pottery
>>65551476>Welcome to 2026. I'm not paying $800+ for your rollmark, I'm buying from the new upstarts with reasonable prices that will put you out of business.Word, here in Europe you used to see every gunsmith turn out their own suppressors. Although what happened here was that the gunsmith special suppressor kind of died off since the big companies could make better ones cheaper
>>65551374Lyman licensed the Sonicore from models from popular cheap Euro suppressor companies, KGM was the OEM for Dead Air for several years, don't know about Backwoods
>>65551476>>65551500Off-topic: I see this in the whiskey industry. I've visited a lot of distilleries and tried A LOT of whiskeys. Whiskey made by big corporations like Buffalo Trace and Diageo is better AND cheaper 90% of the time.
> if your business can't survive without a 300% marginThen it wouldn’t be margin. If you can’t survive without it, it’s a cost of business
>>65551496Well I can't dispute that but the "you only need an AR, can and Glock" crowd is still wrong
>>65549443Suppressors are the only NFA item that kits are actually regulated in law. For everything else constructive possession is just DoJ guidance. I don't think you'll see form 1 kits until suppressors are off the NFA
>>65551543There are form 1 kits now, retard.I swear you people get more stupid every year.
>>65550463Nta but half of the states still require registration for suppressors
>>65551455If you're swapping between 556 and 7.62:Cheap: >OCL Polo 30Middleground:>LPM Anthem S2'Spensive (not in any particular order): >OCL Infinity (heavy tho)>Huxworks 7.62 Ti>CAT ODB or CAT Alleycat 7.62Any of the above will have fine suppression on 556 while tolerating 7.62/308. Go HUB instead of proprietary mounting so that you can easily swap between host rifles.
>>65551624Thanks for the spread. I'll look into those.
>>65551509Buffalo Trace is great, unfortunately I'm in NC where liquor stores are government owned and run by the mob, so they only have Buffalo Trace once or twice a year and it gets bought up quick
>>65551722Gas stations in Missouri have it for $24.
>>65549430As production increases, the cost to produce the next unit goes down. Companies like ruger and savage keep bolt action prices down, the AR companies keep AR-15s cheap and now companies that have the machines will run them 24/7 to crank out suppressors. Eventually it'll become like europe where companies like B&T sell ultra-specific suppressors, basically each gun getting its own suppressor. Your hunting rifle will get a large reflex aluminum suppressor, your ar-15 will either get a flow through or a simple k-can with low backpressure characteristics and your pistols will either have an ultralight can or 9mm traditional can with a nielsen device. Universal suppressors won't go away, but the catalog of available designs will explode and costs will drop.
>>65553050>Eventually it'll become like europe where companies like B&T sell ultra-specific suppressors, basically each gun getting its own suppressorB&T is like the only company that does this though
>>65549942I bought one with a form 4473, it took 5 minutes.
>>65549532I actually bet a democrat would argue that suppressors should be required for hunting so you don't needlessly damage your ears all because he was sad his grandpa couldn't ever hear him well and the loud gunshot also scared him.
>>65555436Think of the hunting dogs!The poor pupperinos who work hard to get the hunt moving! It save their hearing too!!(I'm sure this will be an argument, a perfectly valid one)
>>65550466im retarded and i read, turns out the best for of economic policy is to limit unfettered immigration and that diversity is actually a huge negative
>>65550480>certain crime ratesrecidivism is down simply due to higher incarceration and conviction rates; simple as. freakonimics tried to push this myth and it turns out people dont steal or commit crime because they are hungry and poor, they do it because they are pieces of shit and no rehabilitation fixes it; so with new tech comes less of a chance they can commit crime repeatedlyturns out its something like less than 1% of a population that commits the majority of bad crime. removing these bad actors is what reduces the majority of crime stats.
>>65551252>conversation has nothing to do with trannies>anon remains obsessed
pretty sure in a few years suppressor specific brands and companies will likely go under as market share falls back into the hands of the firearms maker; since brands like glock and ruger will simply include a suppressor with the gun for an extra $100-150 since the suppressor costs $40 to make at most
>>65550466Sauce.
>>65551374>waste generated by the printing processwut
>>65549942sorry you live in a gay state
>>65555723you still have to 4473 them, this is a registration regardless of what they call it. we are not free
>>65555735so you just don't have any guns?
theyre slop suppressors
>>65555739so a 4473 isnt a registration?
>>65555716You'll have to do some digging for the post/data, but there are a significantly higher number of failed manufacturing in print suppressors vs typical machine/SS suppressors. All it takes is a minor error on the print and you've got an entire batch of suppressors that aren't suitable for retail and have to be discarded. That's why those first batches of SAW cans were so fucky.
>>65551246shoot your guns. if you aren't too poor to buy ammo are you?
>>65555755Literally not, at least legally speaking. You cannot prove I still own anything that was previously purchased on a 4473.
>>65555494>>65555436These are solid arguments that have been used for years for legalizing suppressors. Quality of life and prevention of cruelty to animals are important.
>>65549430Can we just make our own like any other firearm now?
>>65550454That isn't at all how it works. The right wing is actual, literal monarchists. The left wing is a milieu of anti-monarchist reformers. The political right hasn't existed for over a hundred years, everything you see is just a screeching mass of varying flavors of leftist.
>>65562435migatards are basically baffled monarchists
>>65562435The right support the existing rigid power structure which was the monarchy, then merchantilism and now capitalists.The left have always wanted more dispersed power.What is very rare in western politics today is an actual left party getting power anywhere because everyone from the Dems in the US to Labour in the UK accept corpo donations and act in the interests of capital.
>>65551356sparks everywhere
Speaking of suppressors, anyone got experience with the Rhodie 6 line? I'm thinking of grabbing a 6J tonight when they go on sale.
>>65551543Couldn't you file your Form 1 first and then take possession of the kit?
>>65550466Economics is directly affected by racial demographics.
>>65558078But they can ask you what happened to it and then probably get a warrant to search your property for it if they don't like your answer.
>>65566132Show a single time that has ever happened.
>>65562435>>65562446Monarchists don't count, certainly not in modern terms. They are simultaneously left and right.They believe in power in the individual, but that individual IS the state.
>>65566185Are you implying that warrants are not "shall issue" in most jurisdictions?
>>65566241Show a single time that your retarded made up scenario happened. Surely just one news article of it happening is out there.
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>>65562669-2 night vision-3 concealment+5 intimidation+3 auraWorth it
