Previous:>>65492239What are FRTs:Forced Reset Triggers (FRTs) are firearm modifications that allow semi-automatic rifles to fire more rapidly by automatically resetting the trigger after each shot, while still requiring a trigger pull for each round. They increase the rate of fire without converting the firearm into a fully automatic weapon.List of platforms that offer FRT/Super Safety support or are currently in development, footage and recommended distributed sellers.https://kg2g.github.io/FRTINFO/webpage/FRTINFO.htmlRecent News:- Drop-in cassette 3 position FRT trigger for the AK platform released by The Triggered Company- 4 position AR-15 FRT is on preorder by Harrison Gun Works- HK 416 22lr FRT announced by Duality Arms Co- MAC 11/12 FRT coming out soon by Advanced Reset Tech- Taurus RPC FRT from Duality Arms Co is released- M3 Grease Gun FRT announced by KineticTechProjects
I kinda want the Wrangeler but I don't actually care for my SAM7...
>Flux teasing Glock chassis>there are selectable Glock FRTs nowOoooh yeah good birthday month for me
>>65557947>Flux teasing Glock chassissource?
>>65557947>Flux Raider for GlockI want to believe.
>>65557947Insane how slowly they work, it's actually fucking crazy that they didn't have a Glock chassis ready a month after releasing the P320. I don't understand how they would have such a lack of urgency when you'd think there would be a race to get that to market.
>>65557657>kinda want the Wrangeler>>65556333>3 weeks lead time>order confirmation states ETA <1WKNice 2b me.
>>65559077when did you order?
>>65559084Yesterday.
>>65559142my email doesnt say anything regarding ETA
>>65559264Did you check in your gf's bottom?
>>65559580ah I got it from triggered directly
>>65559587>triggered directlyAwesome. Did you get the 5% off discount?
>>65559618no, I wasnt aware of that
>>65559633Never pay retail.
>>65557947Abysmal trigger slap on glock FRTs. Makes the threat of ligament damage seem more tangible in comparison to any other platform.
>>65559077>Only 7.62 AK on ARTT>>65559587Same, Nabbed 556, 9 and RPK to test on my family of stuff and send my results back to Triggered.Biggest one for me to test is the KP-9.A few years ago I made the KP9 trip and remix'd the AKV trip to not need bolt modification to work.
>>65560272>10% off>1 wk ship
>>65560272Do you know if there's much of a difference between the different carriers for the calibers? I pick up the RPK one for my vepr, but I've got like five different veprs and different calibers. I'm going to try it on since they all have the rpk receiver
>>65560721If I had to guess what Triggered Comapny did, its likely the spring or the length of lever to the tail end of bcg. >picrelLooks like the lever will pop up when in-battery thats why we saw wear on the leading edge, mostly the bcg flying back.>different carriers for the calibersAlmost definitely between major calibers, certain manufacturers probably have small differences or home builds.So for your case, Im guessing the RPK lever may be longer so the worst you will get is a 'locked' trigger since the lever is not all the way up. I know VEPR and Saiga are diff manufacturers for their rifles but I would imagine Molot would follow some TDP for 47 & 74 like Izzy did. So RPK may not cover it all, expect to maybe buy one new one if you have a .223 at the least.
>>65560750my retarded ass forgot picrel
If we're honest with ourselves we all know these are gonna get banned when the dems are back in power, right?
>>65561697probably, but the idea for me at least is that because there are so many, they would be grandfathered in.Also FRTs are threatened right now with the republicans in power right now because of the ATF shit.
>>65561703I kinda doubt they will grandfather this since it is so new.
>>65561714well they would have a hard time getting them door to door, before it was easy
>>65561703>the idea for me at least is that because there are so many, they would be grandfathered in.Like the bump stocks? Yeah.
>>65561722what happened with bump stocks? I'm uninformed.FRTs currently are sold by a ton of companies and you can make them yourself by printing them, it's substantially more difficult to go door to door
>>65561719Well sure, but if they make it a felony to possess, like the same punishment as modifying an AR-15 to be full auto, I don't think it's gonna matter that much.
>>65561735well yeah, then it goes to court etc.. then eventually it could be legal again. That's how it works.As long as no asshole maniac commits a mass shooting then we're probably okay for a while.most times when legislation is considered regarding guns is usually right after a shooting, very impulsive and reactionary. I remember there was a law maker considering banning suppressors because this incredibly rare instance, a guy used it during a shooting, they werent considering it otherwise.
>>65561728Trump "autopen" made them illegal after the country-fest massacre in Vegas. With a STROKE they were illegal. >inb4 the pen is mightier than the sword
>>65561741>As long as no asshole maniac commits a mass shooting then we're probably okaySo we're not ok.
>>65561742yeah then eventually they were legal again, rip Florida thoughWhat I mean is that there are ebbs and flows. The pendulum swings all the time.
>>65561743pretty much
>>65561741We'll see. I think what will probably happen is the conservative supreme court will be nerfed by dems when they interfere with whatever bills they pass. I wouldn't generally be this worried about it but it's looking like we're gonna lose Iowa because of this fuckass war. If they nuke the filibuster they're probably gonna reform like half the government. Hell the whole country could have cali rules. I do expect ARs and other guns that are considered "assault weapons" to be grandfathered but stuff like this seems questionable.
>>65561697I'm not sure they'll try anything drastic. If they try to call them illegal on the basis of being machine guns then that would make MGs "common use" and open the door for deregulation.Also there's a good chance that some of the NFA cases going through the courts go our way and a lot of shit gets deregulated long before the next election anyway.
Farrowtech has in development a chassis for two TX22s together like the Glockinator called obligatorily TX22inator
>>65561820Lmao, imagine thinking they'll respect the "common use" BS Scalia came up with in 2008. They are gonna pass something called "The Judicial Reform Act of 2029" and it's all gonna be over.
>>65558465>>65558607
>>65562893Also this. Image is like a month old
new s3igu2 post
>>65562896>>65562893wish there will be a 10mm version, doubt that it will. Waiting for the printable version
I got a rare breed for my sp5 and it's kinda amazing....
>>65563856nice! I'm glad youre enjoying your experience
finally s3igu2 posts footage of the SCAR FRT
>>65563309Please, please, PLEASE ASD make frt for BAR!
>>65564806What BAR?The OOW or the browning hunting rifle?
>>65564731Neat, definately going to be cheaper than the route I took with the IAC lower for my scar17. On the bright side I have the option to use a lower that can take sr25 mags/drums if I want to use those instead of scar mags.
>>65566228damn those lowers are unobtainum, how did you end up getting one?
>>65566234I think I had it on email notification and saw they came back in stock.
>>65566228How do you like your SCAR? Thinking of picking one up
FRT in development for the Pistollo 77 by jcjr1004 on reddit.com>Here’s a sneak peek of what I’ve been working on lately. Deluxe Arms and the Pistollo Brand has reached out to me to create a FRT System for the Pistollo 77. This so far has been the most interesting frt project that I’ve taken for a new production firearm. I am currently modifying and developing a 3 position lever for it so that it can be even better!
From the last thread:>New update from Hoffman regarding the selectable trigger kickersAnyone know if he's had this run past a patent lawyer yet to (1) file his own patent application on it, and (2) ensure he's not gonna get sued again by Rare Greed?The original TK pretty clearly didn't infringe anything that I know of from Rare Greed. Given his past anti-patent attitude, I'm a bit worried he's going to fuck up massively and leave himself open to a lawsuit again.
voidspec is working on a kabuto style FRT for AR10 platform, 3 position leverhttps://voidspec.com/product/acrd10/
>>65567659>Anyone know if he's had this run past a patent lawyer yet to (1) file his own patent application on itWhat would a lolbertarian do?>I'm a bit worried he's going to fuck up massivelypattern recognition exists for a reason.
deskpop's video on the p320 FRThttps://youtu.be/l4rRQVgE410
Anyone got hands on experience with KalashTriggers three position?>>65560038That piece of metal looks unacceptably thin.
>>65557651 OK, it is time anons to once again larp as the north Hollywood robberWhat is the best Ak frt and what is the best Ak rifle to throw it in. It’s the only rifle I’m going to own because Gucci shit is a money pit and gay
>>65567830I'm no AK expert, but it seems like the best and easiest AKs to get are WASR-10, M70 and WBP.Regarding FRTs, AK has always been harder than most to install especially 3 position. There is however a drop in 3 position cassette that was just released. No one has their hands on it yet though so very little information about it is known
This seems like exactly what I want. The DualityArms one is so dogshit... $500 and nothing on youtube or reddit yet...
>>65568313check the reviews, I thought this was the normal FRT just preinstalled in a new FCG. Could be wrong because of the lack of informaio
>>65568343Seems like it's an optimized one? Info is sparse... the issue is the Vectors FCG is so horrible to FRT by itself, so making a new FRT-FCG seems like the logical choice.
>>65567649these guys keep hounding my shop to carry these; >costs 3-4k each for a 9mm pcclol; lmfao even. they dont look like they even shoot nice
lol
looks like a different glock FRT in development. Looks like a switch, but isnt
another ARC stealth selector teaser
>>65568623>3MFnobody uses that shit. 3D print niggers i swear.
>>65561722>Like the bump stocks?There are substantially more FRTs than bumpstocks now.
Do they make an AK frt that uses an f.a. selector like the arizona regulator? I dont want to use an "inkorreckt" selector for my numbers matching kit build
>>65568986the 3 position AK frt requires a FA selector and FA disco
>tfw my as designs arc fire v2 doesn't work with my griffin mk2 lower but works fine in my mil spec anderson oneFUCK
>>65569020I dont why it wouldnt, I would figure the mk2 lower is low shelf or m16 cut
>>65569024It's likely out of spec somehow. Fucking griffin will charge me on shipping and shit if I want them to RMA. And it's not like they can guarantee they would be able to fix this.
Does anyone think that a lot of these demos people keep running are just full disco guns they're trying to pass off as FRT'd? I swear I can get none of them to run the way people are showing.
>>65569279no, I have several that work extremely well
Duality Arms Co PMX Teaser
>>65567725I mean, seriously, he must have hired some totally incompetent attorneys for his patent infringement defense against Rare Greed, because back when Stamboulieh was still doing videos about the hearings, every fucking time there was something obvious that his attorneys had blown, usually by not even addressing it with the court.IDK if the big consolidated case means that other attorneys are now in charge, but I sure as fuck hope so or he's going to end up getting the electric chair. And that's not even supposed to be a thing for patent infringement.
>>65568688>3mfEveryone uses that shit if they're working with either a Prusa or Bambu printer. The shittiest part is that Prusa and Bambu 3MF formats are incompatible, so you have to try both slicers and then export the STL file if you want to use it on any printer other than what the uploader uses.
>>65568623>placeholder shapes>they don't work just yetOdds that he ever manages to get that thing working as a FRT rather than a full-auto conversion?
>>65569542Duality tongues my anus
>>65565644Ynorbof? But the OOW.
>>65567824>looks unacceptably thin.Don't judge everything by your early Atrius potmetal shit breakages.
>>65567824>Anyone got hands on experience with KalashTriggers three position?I own it, didnt install it yet
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HNzSvd3vVqcOof...
>>65569654Lol, lmao even
>>65570511how did he get it? is it out?
>>65570820Probably a tester and got the go ahead to make a video. Damn I should really buy a ZF5. Not sure what barrel length to go for though
>>65570511>A few more weeksAs of yesterday.
>>65570904Meant to reply to >>65570820
>>65570904>TWO MORE WEEKS
>>65569279>full disco gunsYou are equally retarded but right in the wrong way.Nobody is passing out F/A shit, thats a liability on its own.Handing out pre-built, KNOWN good guns with FRTs, perhaps, harder to prove QA on diff manufacturers because it varys so much. Also equally harder to prove since you would need to see it fail from a lot of people (Dariyland).
>>65570511ASD owner response to the video
>>65573055I don't trust them
>>65573056why not? all of their product releases work well
>>65573073no they don't, my v1 arcfire was a finicky piece of shit
>>65573095That's unfortunate, I never had an issue when any ARC I had. I own like 3 V1 and like 3 V2.Their customer service is pretty good too
>>65573097I didn't have an issue with the v2, but the v1 was a terrible experience
2 position outhttps://advancedresettech.com/mac-11-vmac9-mpa-2-position-a-r-t-system/
Cloak industries TP9 FRT is outhttps://cloak-industries.com/product/cloak-industries-assisted-reset-lever-kit-for-bt-tp9/
>>65573853>$500Bruh.
>>65573910if you have a tp9. you can afford that
>>65573910To be fair, a lot of FRTs cost a lot. Especially with the TP9 being a boutique gun i'm not surprised
>>65573915Oh I didn't look at the image. It's just a lever. wtf. What's stopping anyone from getting a Chinese shop to cut a million pieces like that
Metal Han9 trips are outhttps://wisemanindustry.com/products.html?item=han9-trip-slip
New M249 FRT in developmentReddit user Omnia_Dynamica developing a FRT for the platform
>>65575581holy trigger slap batman
>>65557651Is the AK platform better at sustained fire than the AR platform?
>>65573097>I own like 3 V1 and like 3 V2.>like>likeSo, do you own 3 of each or not? Can you conclusively count to 3 or count to "like" 3? Fucking zoomers taking elementary math class via Zoom can't reliably count to "like" 3. Retards will get audits on thier taxes because they can't count to 3.
>>65573795Awesome, ordered. Now Uzi Model A. 3 position would be nice, but that's not the point, is it?
>>65573919Market economics. Do you people even school?
>>65575896yeah I own 3 each, dont have to be so mean about it
So what's the deal with the ARHK? It says you have to pick which caliber you want, and that it isn't user serviceable. Does that mean I can't adjust it to run in my MP5 and G3, and I'd have to buy two of them?
>>65576571where has it been said? The only thing I remember reading was that you might need to swap out the ejector for the different calibers.
>>65576571you would just have to buy different ejectors
>>65575910nice, I hope it works well!
>>65576697>>65577600Apparently it needs a stronger spring for 556/308, and you can't change this yourself.
>>65577784it's saying that if you want the extra power spring and if you dont select it, you have to send it back. Not related to caliber compatibility. If all your guns work with the same spring, then all would be needed is an extractor change.
>>65577797I hope that's the case, but then I guess you need to pray that whatever ammo you have doesn't have hard primers. This seems like a shitty setup regardless.
>>65577803wouldnt the best thing is the extra springs in general which would also work with 9mm
>>65577815As someone who has had to use Wolff extra power springs for hard primer surplus ammo, using a really strong spring on "normal" primers causes you to punch through them, which leads to a whole host of issues.
Wrangeler 5.56/5.45mm Update============================These AKs have been added to the approved platform list for The Triggered Company Wrangeler (5.56/5.45 SKU):Arsenal Bulgaria SAM5 5.56mmRiley Defense AK74 5.45mmSaiga 223VEPR 5.45mmWBP Jack 5.45WBP Jack 5.56PSA Sabre
>>65578154I don't trust that thin as piece of metal to reliably transfer the force generated by harnessing tens of thousands of psi of gas energy as it uses mechanical advantage to overcome the tens of lbs of force an adult human male index finger can produce at the tip.
>>65578316Triggered makes good stuff, I dont think it'll be a problem. If it is, I'm sure you'll be taken care of by CS
Wish ASD would do a LAW Tactical ARIC system slip trip. Can't be too different from an MCX. Picture related. >>65570511Absolutely unacceptable in this day and age especially for guys presumably as mechanically inclined as the ASD folks to make the mistake of not specifically sourcing high quality US made steel hardware and instead opting to save whatever fractional number of shekels they save by going with cheap hardware from literally whomst SARR pajeet mexican Chyna shit pot steel hardware that snaps. >>65569670>potmetalPotmetal doesn't bend and crack like this. It was decent steel, but not hard enough, and not enough cross section and strength. >>65569900Hardened steel? Pics?>>65578329>talking about warranties with respect to gun parts meant to be a part of mechanical tool objects to literally kill and save livesGTFO with this onions faggot bitchmade reddit leftist-adjacent bullshit. WBP PSA owning shitlib. Ah yes my seat belt warranty! Ah yes, my fire extinguisher warranty!Warranties in the firearms industry are not actually meant to be used. They're meant to be excessively generous, transferable, and all encompassing as a sort of economic statistical hedge/guarantee to the consumer/customer that the engineering and quality control in the product itself meets a standard/threshold that if there were any appreciable number of failures/claims the company wouldn't even be solvent.
>>65578357>talking about warranties with respect to gun partsThe gun part I'm talking about is just used for fun, you seriously dont larp and think this would be used in a real scenario right? That would be silly.
>>65578357>They're meant to be excessively generous, transferable, and all encompassing as a sort of economic statistical hedge/guarantee to the consumer/customer that the engineering and quality control in the product itself meets a standard/threshold that if there were any appreciable number of failures/claims the company wouldn't even be solvent.This jaded, cynical version, or they just fix your issues. The fact that Atrius used you as a beta tester must still taste salty.
>>65578154I hope I didn't mess up by ordering the rpk version for my 762 vepr. I sent them an email asking to switch from the rpk to the 762 version so hopefully they will get it in time before they ship my trigger out or if not, allow me to swap it if that doesn't work
>>65578372>2026>Days after SBRs were effectively removed from the NFA>Still not taking FRTs seriouslyYou're like the faggots that shit on braces because they weren't actually stocks. Get fucked. The less salient point but more important one however is that our conversation so far has gone as follows: >I point out that part of the FRT mechanism appears weak and as such might be unreliable>You say no it is okay>I elaborate with reasoning why it might not be okay>You say the company is good and if it breaks you have a warranty>I point out a warranty is useless, pointless, and meaningless in the context of a real killing tool>You say well this is a toy, not a real toolYou're not even engaging in a genuine self consistent manner. If your argument is eventually reduced to the last point, that this is a toy not a real serious tool, then why even defend it initially saying that the mechanism will be okay? Why not just start off with that argument, that you're fine with the questionable design durability because to you (soi faggot man child wallhanger talisman consoomer collector) these are just toys?>>65578771>used youAtrius and MANY other companies (PSA, Sig etc) in this space use all of us and the 2nd Amendment community writ large as beta testers for their shit products with half baked engineering, while youtube shills that aren't intelligent enough to understand the difference between quality control issues vs poor design convince everyone you included that the observed failure rates are acceptable and that le heckin warranty is somehow of meaning/value in this context.
>>65579799>You're not even engaging in a genuine self consistent manner.I'm operating on the idea that it is just a fun range toy. Of course if it breaks it stinks, but since it's just a toy, I would get it fixed. You're operating under it being a serious killing tool or something and if it breaks there would be critical consequences and that's incredibly cringe.
>>65579799>FRT mechanism appears weakTo be fair, tons of other people make 'weak' FRTs. I remember seeing the wire for the Diablo Trigger and instantly rejected that it would last. Im assuming some of these companies want you to buy more since their argument is going to be 'operator error'. Hell even the lightning links are just cut flat steel. Now some may never be used, but still how many times yo think those fuckers have been re-welded or "restored" *cough cough* re-manufactured *cough cough*Even so, the reason some of these are so thin or weak in some places tells a story of the design path, for the wrangler, I think its thinner to dodge the center support pin for stamped receivers since milled dont need the extra rivet. Hoffman did a lot as well through is development, at the bottom center is older FRT designs he experimented with, went on to do SS, and now he is kicker, and I can kinda see some of older designs slipping into the kicker.
New AR15 FRT just droppedhttps://camtacllc.com/product/camset3p-15/https://youtu.be/oPpNQ6Iyes8https://youtube.com/shorts/ArlJf6Y7fTUThe AR-15 section on the github page is getting pretty large, I may have to do something about it. If a new user sees it, they would be overwhelmed with options
>>65580003Either hyper German complex BS or some Vaporware
>>65579904>tons of other people make 'weak' FRTsThey're not "weak"... they actually are. And the fact that so many companies make these bullshit gimmicks is no defense or excuse. >wire for the Diablo TriggerMy buddy and I installed one in his RPK and within a couple hundred rounds it bent and got caught up in the action BADLY, completely fucked the wire up. >tells a story of the design pathOkay do a better design then
>>65580177>bent and got caught up in the actionTried to fit it in an Arsenal, had to shave it down a ton because of the tighter bolt to receiver tolerance. Got bent up just from hand charging.>do a better designSaying this like everyone is just magically inspired to **design**, we would be in near utopia from ideas. Its easy to get rooted in one design and keep trying to fix it, and its easier to fix with a 'known good' part, hence all the remixes you see with 3D2A stuff.Ideas come and go, not all are great and you gotta fail to succeed, there will always be copycats, etc etc. (Don't throw KNOWN shit products on your customers at a obscene MSRP - unless you are the monopoly, to which nobody has a choice anyways).We got like 5-10 years of shit to wade through for good good FRTs and hopefully by then Hughes is repealed and it was all for nothing.
>>65580225>5-10 years of shit to wade through for good good FRTsI know they get hate but RareGreed has mastered the MP5 FRT. Cloak is a good 2nd place, I've only seen one person having an issue with theirs but they also said the RB had really bad trigger slap so I just think their MP5 was out of spec because that's kinda what happens when you get a roach clone.
>>65580351What’s the meta on the best MP5 FRT setup?t. Retard that hasn’t been keeping track since the roach clones.
>>65580687It's literally the Rarebreed. The fullsize SP5 doesn't need a new locking block but the SP5k may need to be changed from the 100 degree it comes with to a 90 to 80 degree. Other than that it's flawless. There's a guy on YT shooting 15k+ rounds through his with no issues.
So legally speaking, how much worse would it be for you if you were to have to use say an frt Glock in a self defense situation?
>>65580714Legally speaking, you are supposed to use deadly force only to stop the problem, not to slaughter everyone in the room (unless that's the only way to stop the problem of course).So, a prosecutor might try to go after you for using excessive force, or for endangering bystanders if any. Of course, some states ban FRTs and so might go after you for that as well.I'm not really a big "keep the gun totally factory original and only use the blandest of normie ammunition" type, but I would not want to have to deal with the likely legal problems.Then of course there's the excessive ammo usage. My usual CCW is a Glock 26. With an FRT, that's probably three bursts. With even two assailants that's already getting iffy. And then there's the "oh fuck in my adrenaline-charged overstrength reactions I just jammed the FRT and broke it" problem. IDK if Glock FRTs will jam up the gun or break parts if you super-strength-pull the trigger. I don't want to have to find out during a shootout.
>>65580687Like >>65580696 said, rare greed is #1 if you want a pure clone correct look. ASD lower with an Arc v2 and a fancy trigger will be a LOT better in terms of trigger pull, but that means you're giving up the clone looks.
>>65580225>tighter bolt to receiver toleranceYeah fitting the trip bar on the side like that is a legit challenge to all the designs that run the trip bar there. >We got like 5-10 years of this shit to wade through Yeah seems like it overall. Alas. >>65580351>masteredIDK about that but it definitely seems to be the best option so far, ethics of jew IP lawyer bullshit and being used by the ATF as a civil NFA enforcement angle...The high round count reviews behind the Raregreed FRT RD3 and the design and the levers all seem to indicate positively. I shot my friends and it runs well.
>>65580876The answer to your fourth paragraph is the same as anyone asking about any gun or modification for self-defense: go and train with it, and learn how to use it.
>>65580876>IDK if Glock FRTs will jam up the gun or break parts if you super-strength-pull the trigger. I don't want to have to find out during a shootout.what would happen is that you will squeeze too hard and first round is fired then the slide would be locked back until you let go of the trigger in a loop until empty. Basically a really shitty normal semi-autoJust use your gun as it is, according to the FBI most encounters end in about 1-3 rounds anyway
>>65578357Wow, this AR is setup is genuinely horrendous. Lets break it down.>Sub 10 inch barrel, not good for 5.56mm>Front sight but no rear sight, it's just dead weight and obscures your sight picture>Foregrip has annoying nubs on it, shave them down>Optic is a pistol sight, these have stronger tinting, more noticeable parallax and worse NVG performance than full size red dots>The grip as more nubs on it, plus a weird looking rear hump that would dig into your hand, shave them down>The stock looks heavy and uncomfortable, replace with a magpulYou can do it. I believe in you.
>>65582146>The answer to your fourth paragraph is the same as anyone asking about any gun or modification for self-defense: go and train with it, and learn how to use it.No, it's not, because in a real firefight you will be having an adrenaline response and will have poor muscle control. You can "train" all you want but your "training" will never include that, unless of course you want to inject yourself with adrenaline before starting your training.
>>65583000Not him, but he was clearly going for a LR300 clone
I really hope someone figures out a way to make the wrangeler work in a 12g vepr. Just got this back from getting it worked on
>>65584105I'll let ya know if it works on a saiga at least, same *ballpark*
from ASD's isntagram. I guess they are making progress with the G36
>>65585606Thank fucking god.I've only been waiting since forver.
>>65585606Notice the different pistol grip lower. I assume it's an AR15 FCG lower. Kinda gay and lame that they can't make it work with the factory lower.
>>65585909why does this matter?
>>65586121Like, because.
Did the Arc fire stealth ever come out or did they drop it from the site already?
>>65587274apparently it came out? I dont even see a store page for it, hopefully there will be more
>One of the first 50 for wrangler trigger>Just shiping notif 556 and 9mm today>still waiting for shipping provider for pickupWhere I am, Prolly early next week delivery, see you soon.
>>65587628I'm pretty jealous, when did you order?
>>65587631Spamming F5 when drop started, website finally came back like 30-45 mins after deadline. Trying to see how well it works and run it at MSW at the end of the month to stress test it.
>>65587642that's awesome! please report back with your experience for data purposes.
bump
triple p89 set up with trigger kickers by @PrintsandtheRev
>>65586121Because it's a whole new lower? What do you think anon? It means it'll be a lot more expensive AND look like shit.
>>65587274>>65587606I believe this was the page for ithttps://activesafetydesigns.com/stealth/
>>65576571>>65577784>Claim to fame was being cheaper than the rare greed and having multi caliber compatibility >It's a hundred bucks less and caliber specific tooLmao, hopefully they're at least as reliable as the greeds are
>>65587644>>65587628No movement still, usps not taken custody of package
>>65580687Rarebreed is the go to by a mile. Major thing to watch out for is that they can have issues with some navy lowers(Turkish for the most part) which require shimming or requesting a different tripper from rarebreed to resolve. The ARHK is the big competitor but it's too new to know how it compares while only being mildly cheaper than the rare greed. All the other setups using SS style designs are kind of a crapshoot, they require significant modification to make work and usually require tuning to get running well.If you're talking about what host to use then SP5 is the obvious winner followed distantly by the Turkish guns. Just ignore ptr, the turk guns are fundamentally solid but with notable QC issues, which is better than the rest of your options I guess.
>>65587628Im going to apparently have to get into the back of the line again, they cannot swap the order for the RPK version to 762. I need to cancel the order and reorder.
>>65591762>All the other setups using SS style designs are kind of a crapshoot, they require significant modification to make work and usually require tuning to get running wellI can only speak for myself, but my ASD lower required zero adjusting or tweaking. I just slapped it on, added in the trip, and it ran perfectly.
>>65580714if theyre arguing your choice of gun was uncouth it means you probly acted poorly. you should not be excited for an opportunity to shoot someone and you should be doing things without thinking, ie shooting everyone in a group of people when only one pulled a gun.
>>65591710you ordered directly from them or from artakedowntool?
PPS43 FRT in development by reddit user SolidYesterday1301
>>65592101>need wacky contraption when the original design is TOOB with a big hunk of metal bouncing on a springMan I hate these gay laws.
Correct be if i'm retarded but wouldn't the lower rate of fire with a FRT be a good thing compared to the rates you get with true full auto? You want controlled short range bursts not a 2 second mag dump.
>>65592077From Triggered
>>65592077>from artakedowntoolNta, yes. 5% discount for have a collage dagree.
>>65592221>You wantStop telling me what I want.
>>65592221Anon has not heard of suppression via volume
Every time I see this thread in my tabs I read it as "fart sausage".
>>65593467>fart sausageNo, that's the one I give your mom.
got an update from triggered regarding the FRT
advanced reset tech teases FRT for tec-9. Pretty big deal because I think I've seen 2 different people working on it and it's vaporware
>>65594777>not tec-22Fags.
>>65594849why would you want that?
>>65594777Still waiting on my CP33 frt on their Instagram they are in production but are waiting for enough to start selling. They just need to hurry up and start selling because I want one
>>65577784Well that kinda sucks I swear they original said it was gonna work on everything, now I can't swap it around my different things depending on the spring I chose? (I don't even think I chose one originally)
looks like the Jakl-9 FRT is out from ASDesigns
>>65592101Is this the same guy who was working on the Suomi and Wiselite Sterling FRT's?
>>65597261got a link to those? I'd like to add that to the github page
>>65595981I was gonna get the stronger spring just for the fact that I have so much steel case and surplus 308 I'm sure the heavier spring will help with the harder primers.
>>65592539I was thinking of Glock switches where they mag dump from 5-6 feet in a couple of seconds. I'd rather have limited controlled duration bursts where i know that guy is dead but i still have a couple of bursts for his homies in case they decide to step up and draw on me.I'm kinda missing the point behind blasting some muggle point blank with a machine pistol or wasting a whole crew aren't i?
>>65594961Why wouldn't you?
>>65597394tx22 exists
>>65597462Excuse not reason.
what does this mean?
FN 509?
>>65597790>>65597795this A.R.T dude talks faster than his brain can think. constantly teasing products that are written on napkins as if they are market ready. its getting tiring.
>>65597790>what does this mean?I read that as, "striker housings are in production".
>>65597298No it was a blurb from 10+ months ago, dude was working on prototyping had no shooting footage. Haven't heard shit since he probably gave up
>>65598069not sure how that related to it being selectable
>>65598257It was probably 2 questions both related to the tx22
Another drop this weekend
I wish ASDesigns had more selector style options like radian talons or magpul selectors. I thought that was the direction
Just got back from the range trying out my new rare GREED FRT in my AP5. They're a fairly well known commodity at this point but just thought id drop a little mini review for anyone considering them.>round count aprx 200>ammo: mix of 124gr, 147gr S&B subsonic>malfunctions: 1Overall gun ran like a top. I did encounter one malfunction where a piece of brass failed to eject completely, was caught by the returning bolt, and smashed into the top right corner of the ejection port. Had to be pried out but could be done by hand. I'm not ready to lay this at the feet of the trigger group though, this AP5 had some issues from the factory that had to be rectified and I also changed out the LP for a new 100 deg RCM one this range trip to help with that(gun running too hard, caused strange ejection issues, largely resolved by new rollers but still mauling brass). I also spazzed out like a retard when this malf happened, jerking the gun rearward and likely inducing it in the first place.>Are rare breeds good for you?Honestly id strongly recommend this combo(MP5/FRT) to people thinking about a first FRT. Selector is a notable improvement over standard ones, it isnt much bigger but is notably easier to actuate. No detectable trigger slap and movement itself is something youd have to focus on to notice. Doubletaps are both quicker and somehow more accurate than doing them in semi. Triples are also braindead easy. Once you get somewhere around the 6-7 round mark though you'll need proper form to avoid undue stringing(usually up and to the right), but still very much so in the realm of combat accurate even if you arent doing your part. Definitely one of if not the most controllable FA/FRT guns I've shot.Overall Id definitely recommend it, I think the extra 100-200 bucks over the alternatives is worth it in my case for drop in reliability with even a bit of a friday afternoon example of a clone. Whether that's true for you as well is up to you to decide.
>>65599109That's a great review anon, I'm not sure whether to get the rare breed now or wait for the ARHK
Any news on the lawsuit between RB and Hoffman? How's Tim doing?
He really got this thing out quick!
>>65601671>only a few failurespretty good for Tec standards
PSA
we back?
ARHK update
>>65601973So will the ARHK only fit in polymer housings? Was it ever explained why?
>>65594768>>65591710One of the first 50. Still no movement, *supposed* to ship today.
>>65601973One week to the one month announcement of the one year delat to the one decade release timetable I don't want a fucking raregreed but it's the only option that's not vaporware FUCK
>>65602268man that stinks
>>65602278this was announced a year ago?
>>65594768>bro have a voucher that you'll likely never useI sincerely wish these retards would just give a partial refund.
>>65602370yeah that shit stinks
>>65602278If the ARHK isn’t out by the end of the year I’m getting a rare breed. I hate it and I hate them but unfortunately the clock is ticking for items like these
>>65603844
>>65603877Holding out for these guys like you wouldn’t believe rn
FRT's aren't and will never be a proper full auto rifle. Cope and seethe all you want, you don't own a machinegun you own a civilian shitbox with a shitbox aluminium part in it.
>>65603934you live in florida
>>65603934post third hole, faggot.
>>65603993
>>65603993>>65604044THIS IS A BLUE BOARD! MODS MODS MODS
What's the hottest that a .22LR barrel could get from sustained FRT fire? Say, multiple 30-round mag dumps? At the chamber since that's gonna be the hottest? Assume a 10/22.vidunrelated
>>65604572I have a mars 10/22 frt that after much gnashing of teeth and rending of garments is working 98% of the time. I have approached what you're requesting with a normal full steel bbl and the answer is too hot to touch but not hot enough to stop working. I've never used a thermometer and wouldn't go to the trouble but my amateur sense of it is that the energy 22 generates isn't dense enough to offset the ability of that much barrel steel to absorb and radiate it away between strings of fire, and I've done 3 110rd ATI drums back to back.What's hellish is the mess it makes. The fouling...my god it gets everywhere. Full auto 10/22 needs an ultrasonic every single time.
3 position Ruger 10/22 FRT by rarebreedhttps://rarebreedtriggers.com/product/frt-22/
>>65603934P320 reaper is unreal. With a 24lb NDZ spring and polished trip it is practically a machinegun. Rip after rip after rip.And they're only going to get better. Stay mad.
>>65603934who cares, it's fun
>>65604716I kind of need to know the actual temperature on some numerically based scale because I'm trying to figure out whether a polymer part is going to melt or not. "Too hot to touch" could mean 150F or 1200C.
>>65604966It would melt, but a number i cant provide you.
What does he mean by this?
>>65605585He probably means he finally has frts for the UZI and BAR. About time.
>>65605592yeah im sure that's, what it is
Neat idea he's floating aroundLess durable ARCs for people who dont want trigger cuts
>>65605614I'm curious is they were able to make the arhk drop in work for multiple other platforms. I know they found out it works great for the scar as well. Maybe the way it's designed can be made to work with guns that don't have any sort of trip.
>>65605787I think what's learned from that project will expand to others in the future. Like I think the SCAR FRT from them stems from the ARHK
Screwless "stealth" ARC is available from ASD
>>65606185>>65598704Are these ambi only?I hope these come out with a single selector.
>>65605585Anon... you're autistic... he is /j
>>65606239ambi only
USAS FRT kit came out
CP33 FRT is out
>>65607253Appreciate the post. Just ordered mine
>>65607267yeah man, hope you have fun with it
>>65605605WELL, FUCK.
>>65605614>I'll just sell shittier parts>Neat ideaFucking gay ass motherfuckers, the both of yous
>>65605614Brah who the fuck wants a flimsy product? Just give me an immortal ARC made out of some invincible material.
Greetings. It's ya boy, MR556A4 anon. The RareSneed is holding up well. We're near 1500 rounds and operation is still smooth. Problem: this little grub screw backed out again. When it does FRT mode stops working and you get a dead trigger after the firsr shot (semiauto still works fine). You have to take it out of the gun to retighten and the 416 is a little annoying to disassemble. I have loctited it in, hopefully this solves the problem. If not I will be staking it.
>>65609347Speaking of, is the HK meme gun worth the ~$4,000 price tag versus some regular peasant AR?
>>65609347>staking it.Use Rocksett first?
>>65609414It's more than 4k now since they stopped importing them. I like mine but I bought it because I'm deranged and made a 6k purchasing decision based on my favorite chracter in a literal actual chinese cartoon. Does it do anything a normal AR doesn't? Eh, not really. I guess it runs a little cleaner? I like how everything is ambi and it look fucking amazing but I'm not a tier 1 operlarper so I even if there were fringe benefits I'm probably not in a position to take advantage of them.>>65609452Perhaps. I just know staking will work.
>>65602323>>65602268USPS accepted package and is on the way, approx 4 days to delivery, see you then.
>>65609766that's exciting, hopefully mine is soon
new glock flux raider FRT footagehttps://youtu.be/C7N9p7Ig7X0?t=1531
>>65609656glad youre having fun and all, but a streamlight on that gun is fucking driving me crazy
>>65610094They make good lights, what can I say?
Worlds first FRT in a SCAR 15P by s3igu2 of course
>>65610090>doesn't have features the 320 and 365 had>suffers from shit that can't really be remedied like parallax on the optic>$500I could literally buy a MP5K for less than buying a glock, the chassis, and so on.
Taurus GX2/GX4 FRThttps://wisemanindustry.com/products.html?item=gx2-gx4-forced-reset-trigger
>>65609347Went to the range again today, the screw walked again after ~180 rounds. I have escalated to Rockset and I cleaned the screw with alcohol and let it dry before applying to give it a clean surface. Next step is staking. I will try again next week but I'm legit run ing out of 5.56 lol.
>>65611556That is some wacky stuff. I have no experience with rare greed though. I've just been running the generic push pin SS in my ARs and MP5 because they "just werk." I'll probably swap to the Arc v2 with that sexy stealth lever if I ever need a new SS.
>>65611650It is indeed very wacky becuse when the screw is in the gun runs flawlessly. But it backs out until at a certain point FRT just turns off. Then it's semiauto only.i have an AR15 Raresneed FRT and it doesn't do this so it's very odd.
>>65611556>>65611748Contrary to popular belief, if you want a screw to become permanently in place, use bearing retaining compound. That bitch will be welded.
Pretty sick
>>65613247I'm not excited until the thing actually exists for real
Desktop's video on the 1919 FRThttps://youtu.be/rhqTOlmXues
>>65614093>he's not excited for SantaAre you dead inside?
>>65614760Great, but not a BAR.
>>65614760>1919Where MG42?
>>65615044soon
>>65615087Is someone making new grip sticks and bolt extensions?
>>65610089>>65594768>>65557651So Wrangeler News:Mine got delivered, Got a 9mm and 556/545 oneSAM5, no surprise there, seems like it works but there are issues with possible OOB.9mm does not fit KP9, hammer/lever is too high for bcg.
>>65615909
>>65614970yes
>>65615909>9mm does not fit KP9, hammer/lever is too high for bcg.aww man...>SAM5, no surprise there, seems like it works but there are issues with possible OOB.On the site it says it supported though
>>65615920You wouldnt happen to be the anon that mentioned he had a saiga 12g would you? Also what makes you think there might be an OOB issue? I'm guessing you can pull the trigger before the bolt closes all the way?
>>65615942im not that guy, noI humbly have a WASR10
>>65615942was meant for >>65615909I havn't gotten shipment notification yet on my 7.62x39 version sadly.
>>65615942Let me get my saiga out and try it with the 5.56 one, Ill be back in 10-20 mins
>>65615942>>65615955Thats a no on the saiga, maybe some mild gunsmith work can get it in but I dont have the tools atm
>>65615975Im guessing the trigger pack doesn't fit? Ill have to wait to see if anyone who picks up the RPK version tries it.
>>65615979Its some outer cassette stuff, reset lever looks like it can reach, not sure how much of the shelf in mine blocks the unlocking lever tho.
PMR-30 FRT coming out this week
Ordered the VIKHR ps90 FRT kit and a K&M Lightning rear sear spring yesterday and got shipping confirmation. Supposedly the spring helps prevent locking up the FCG when cranking back on the trigger hard during FRT mode.
>>65616080>Supposedly the spring helps prevent locking up the FCG when cranking back on the trigger hard during FRT mode.really? that with the blocker probably makes it super reliable then
Ruger 10/22 3 position FRT revealed by Triggered Companyhttps://triggeredcompany.com/fm-trigger/
>>65609414I love my HK Mr556a1 with an arc fire in it (it was truly drop in with no tuning needed). Although I got it for a steal and only paid 2200 for the rifle. It also came with additional tan furniture & a geissele trigger, geissele handguard, and cgeissele charging handle. So I love mine but definitely check the used market, there are deals to be had.
>>65615187when converted to semi, mg42s already use a new grip stick, bolt, and ar15 trigger. I bet you could just throw a trigger kicker in there and it'd work fine.
>>65617068>trigger kickerTried this, the crossbolt safety and transfer bar has issues, was able to get it to work *kind of* but didnt like how stiff the kicker was for the bolt I had installed.
>>65616039Sign me up 9n this one!
>>65617068The semi grip sticks won't accept FRTs. There isn't enough clearance for the cassettes and no safety detent to make a super safety or arc-fire work so you at least need to modify them.Either way it won't work without a new bolt extension because the BRP extensions need to be .55" longer to get everything timed correctly and give enough clearance for the trip/lever.
Where's my fucking marlin 60 FRT god damnit?
>>65617702>Marlin 60Get a 10/22 grandpa.
>>65617727>Marlin 60The M60 blows the 10/22 tinkertoy away in every way, you'd know that if you ever handled one.
