So I made a similar thread to this a while back, but I wanted to touch on it again mainly because I started getting into the gun scene back in 2016 and for the most part, my fundamentaltraining hasn’t changed much since then. Recently, I’ve decided to start getting serious for USPSA and I was surprised to see quite a few changes in the way people do things, but in particular people’s approach to tactical training now versus 2016 and how a lot of this feels like people attempting to reinvent the wheel. First, let me lay out some of the common differences.
>2016 >length of pull is your stock extended approximately to the bend in your elbow. Length of pull can vary, depending on the person size.>LPVOs are generally superior to red dots for medium range engagement because they allow you 1-6 x or 1-8x magnification, >Red dots plus magnifiers are not as good as LPVOs and considered to be a compromise, with some trainers saying go either red dot no magnifier or LPVO.>small vertical for grips and hand stops are good because they give you a consistent place to put your hands while c-clamping >c-clamping is the best way to grip your carbine with your support hand> using tactical gloves is universally recommended as it improves friction and grip on the gun.> high-ready and low-ready positions are the best way to go, with most professionals preferring a high ready and punching out.> feet should be spread shoulder-length apart and slightly bladed, but knees need to be bent, with a slight forward bias.> having your hand further out on the hand guard, generally in the middle of the hand guard or slightly forward is better since it gives you more control over muscle muzzle rise> a smaller red dot like a eight point T2 is superior too wider optics like the EOtech and older Aimpoint Comp M2s because having a smaller red dot mounted further out while shooting with two eyes open means that you will not see the silhouette of the dot housing.> the AR 15 is the preferred system for most guys, but other systems are viable to provided you train with them, big discussion about battle rifles versus assault rifles in terms of practicality. PCCs are a joke.
2026> length of pull is stock fully extended or one click in from fully extended if you have to collapse it at all regardless of the size of the person. Basically bringing our length of pull back to M16A2 stock lengths.>LPVOs are inferior to red dot + magnifier since most engagements and stages in a match are within 100 m, and LPVO are slower at close range because they’re not a true 1 X>red dot + magnifier is GOATed. Literally no downsides.> vertical for grips and hand stops are useless, if you have to put something on your hand guard use ugly ass tacky looking sandpaper grip tape.> we’ve gone back to the old underhand grip or this pseudo 30 to 45° C clamp I see everyone recommended now (I’ve always called this the Black Hawk Down grip) > gloves are out, tacky grip tape is in.> high and low Ready are out, Instead, people are now recommending using this sort of FPS video game hold where you have the rifle extended, but your eye is not on dot or this Vietnam-era looking low ready position thing (see pic related) because your rifle is already pointed down range.>Feet should be spread further than shoulder length apart while presenting with a 45° bladed stance and a heavy forward bias, slight knee bend.> having your hand out further on the hand guard causes you to drive the rifle left or right during recoil, you should grip closer to the barrel nut no further than halfway up the hand guard.> bigger red dots like the EOtech or Holosun 510C are superior too the old aimpoint T2 because bigger glass allows you to see the target more clearly at a distance> literally nobody considers anything other than a direct impingement AR-15 to be anything other than range toy, battle rifles are obsolete because nobody liked the SIG M7/M8. Now the debate is between hot loaded 556 and 6 mm ARC versus traditional loads. PCCs are cool again and the civilan SMG concept is now viable because of the proliferation of FRTs.
I won’t touch on handgun stuff since I only recently got into shooting handgun seriously so I don’t know what the scene was like in 2016. Maybe some of you guys can shine a light on how defensive pistol shooting has changed over the decade. But I wanted to clarify Im using a number of sources here for this information, not just Lucas Botkin, but also Matt Pranka, Nick Young, Joel Park, Ben Stoeger, and a few others im probably forgetting. Ether way these new trends have proliferated everywhere and Im seeing a lot of shooters using them nowadays and preaching it like the gospel. I wanna hear what you guys think, what works for you and what doesn’t.
>>65560100>how a lot of this feels like people attempting to reinvent the wheel.Yes, this has been a problem since the 80s and the problem reached its peak during the era of normies worshipping GWOT veterans. Every 3-6 years a new set of instructors comes in to teach a slightly different way of doing the exact same thing. BTW, you missed one.>2016 VFGs are in, every serious shooter has one to prevent the support hand from moving back as you get tired or being placed too far forward after reloading.>2026 VFGs are out because people who aren't familiar with them tend to shoot worse with them installed on the gun (gun pulls to the left if using them incorrectly) so now every instructor is saying they are bad.
As someone thoroughly ignorant on the topic, the 2016 stuff intuitively feels more correct for the most part
because the truth is you just need to do what works for youinstructors will teach you what works for them, some of it may be really helpful, some will not, if the instructor forces their style on you then they are probably trashfaggots on the internet will change it up every few years for content, so just ignore themalso I'll wear gloves when I'm shooting a lot because of the gun heating up, I would imagine that would be more popular with how common suppressor are becoming
gun shooting trends have really petered out ever since the ukraine war, which made everything feel it was all trivial since 'u cant beat them drones!'.i also feel like the concealed carry hobby crowd is starting to get tired of CCing full-sized handguns and have settled into shit like the bodyguard 2.0.as far as AR setups i dont think much has changed other than there are way more reasonably priced laser/illuminator setups these days.
>>65560117It seems like Pranka and Stoeger are the new Travis Haley and Chris Costa as the goto authority who replaced the old authority guys like Ken Hackathorn. There is no point in listening to people like Lucas, Nick Young and Joel Park because they all just copy whatever Pranka and Stoeger do and their opinions will be the same.
>>65560100>I started getting into the gun scene back in 2016Newfag
2016>night vision and thermals are the ultimate force multipliers because you can operate at night and the enemy can't2026>everyone has night vision and thermals so you should just get some sleep and operate in the morning
