Julius Caesar mogged Alexander the Great as a general and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
Pyrrhus was an underrated general.
>>65568145he was cool enemy for Rome, that's about itI suppose his alleged death was also fairly ludicrous (imagine being mogged by a greek granny)
>>65568162Alleged death given the same story happens over and over in history and might be an allegory.
>>65568132Yeah, but which one has a song about him on the best Iron Maiden album?
>>65568132>Julius Caesar mogged Alexander the GreatCaesar didnot had boy lover like alexander which mean he is inferior. Alexander is so chad that he able to make other boy submit to him in the sheet.
>>65568145>>65568132What about Africanus?
>>65568249>AfricanusWho? Anus of Africa?
>>65568229Julius was alleged to have been a twink for the king of Bithynia
>>65568252>alleged to have been a twink>a twinkYeah no way he mog ALEXANDER THE GREAT.
>>65568132TWO WALLS?!
>>65568252By his political enemies because he did too good a job making Bithynia an ally.
>>65568145Belisarius never gets enough credit as an all time great
>>65568132>Julius Caesar mogged Alexander the Great as a generalAs a statesman? Yeah, probably. Alexander did not give a single shit about governing any of the lands he conquered. As a military leader? Fuck no, Alexander easily mogs everyone in antiquity and probably most of the Middle Ages just due to the sheer magnitude of his achievements. The man literally steamrolled through like 90% of the known world at the time and barely anyone managed to so much as slow him down.
>>65568329The issue with that is "90% of the known world" were degenerate persians and literal jeets. Alexander had a lot of embarassing close calls and the world in which he lived simply did not have a good answer for formations of heavy cavalry. Caesar on the other hand had actually challenging and intelligent opponents. It's telling enough that Alexander's empire vanished into thin air upon his death, whereas Rome endured after Caesar and remained the supreme world power for centuries after.
>>65568289He unfortunately got outpolitick'd and marginalised near the end, I think that and the general Western lack of interest in the Byzantines until recently have dampened his reputation.
>>65568289This. So much this. Him and Justinian almost reconstituted the entire Empire. >North Africa >Huge chunk of Italy and Sicily >Big chunk of Spain
>>65568464>suddenly plague, fifth of your population is gonewhy did God decide to shit in Rome's Garum bowl all of sudden
>>65568464>bankrupt the empire>devastate Italy so badly it'll need 500 years to recover>steal everything of worth a dime from Rome>dissolve the senate and strip Italy of any priveleges it enjoyed>still lose everything to Lombards not even a generation later>set the ERE on a downward spiral that almost destroyed it Justinian was a god damn map painting retard.His campaigns did more damage than any preceding barbarian invasion of the previous century.
Thoughts on Seleucus?
>>65568329Entirely due to his dad building an army that out-teched everyone. He was a legitimately great cavalry commander but Caesar's accounts of being outnumbered massively every time are credible given he pulled the same shit when he was facing people who kept records.
>>65568438Caesar did not make Rome though
>>65568527God is catholic
>>65568531Who gives a shit about italy they were in the process of beinf thoroughly muttified already. Undeserving of holding Rome
Speaking of underrated generals, Grant was one of the greatest military commanders in US History and the best in the Civil War, undoubtedly better than Lee
>>65568285Maybe it did happen and maybe it was a good idea.Maybe our politicians should fuck each other in the ass to better international relations.Can't hurt to try at this point.
>>65568252>alleged to have beenthat kind of thing was babby's first ancient roman political slander
>>65568132Lmao, no he didn't.
>>65568438> Caesar on the other hand had actually challenging and intelligent opponentsSuch as the face painted retards in OP's pic?>whereas Rome endured after Caesar and remained the supreme world power for centuries afterHence my statesman comment. Also, Caesar didn't exactly build the Roman Empire from scratch - the republic was a thing for quite a while before him.>>65568590>Entirely due to his dad building an army that out-teched everyoneAs opposed to Caesar forging his legions entirely out of thin air?
>>65568895i think they prefer the firm flesh of their interns
>>65568590>Entirely due to his dad building an army that out-teched everyoneNo, not at all entirely due to that. Infinite rulers in history were handed a well trained army and squandered it on nothing. Those who came after him had forces vastly superior to what Alexander started with, and what did they achieve? Slow, gradual decline.
>>65568132Who knows really i think there was like 300 years separating them.There was way more money to be made looting the east at alex's time as well bc silk road.
>>65568250Pretty sure your mom wasn't alive yet.
>>65568329>As a military leader? Fuck no, Alexander easily mogs everyone in antiquity and probably most of the Middle Ages just due to the sheer magnitude of his achievements.Alexander is the greatest conqueror of the Classical era but Hannibal was the most skilled leaderJulius Ceasar is a close second in both categories and arguably had more historical impact than both of them
>>65569541Without Augustus, Julius Caesar would not be anywhere near as historically relevant. Alexander's empire broke apart, and there was no Augustus to put it back together. If there were, they'd still be speaking Greek in Pakistan.
