retard here: what's the point of full auto if it tanks your accuracy so badly you can't hit with you're aiming at?with sound: https://files.catbox.moe/6gsxi6.mp4
>>65576619feeling like a big man.
>>65576619The point is that you don't aim. You just blind fire around corners until everyone is dead.
>>65576619>can't hit with you're aiming atare you fucking blind? he hit 6 times
the fucking state of those overhead baffles.
>>65576619There isnt one. Thats why only dipshits put FRTs on their guns, because they dont care about shooting properly, they care about making noise with their expensive fidget toy and LARPing.>>65576627From like 8 feet away. Lets say this was hypothetically a real self defense shooting, he would have basically grazed the attacker in a way they could possibly just walk it off, and absolutely fucking misted anything around him. This is like that Loony Tunes shit where they shoot a perfect outline around the target.
>>65576619He has the black debuff for accuracy. It has nothing to do with the FRT
>that gun>that skin tone>that hair>that accuracyIt all makes so much sense when you put all the pieces together
>>65576619Depends on usage. Full Auto basicallly either to Suppress an Area.OrAs a "Fuck off" spray.Both could or could not hit anything.
>>65576619>see fecaldermis>automatically assume jackassery about to unfold>jackassery unfoldsNot disappointed.
>>65576753>expensive fidget toyPoor detected.>>65576619>retard here: what's the point of full auto if it tanks your accuracy so badly you can't hit with you're aiming at?A gun that was not at all designed for controllable full auto fire is hardly a good example. Go look at some MP5 full auto to see the same cartridge being fired from something designed for FA.
4 mags of 5.56 in 3 round burst.
The sound is scary.
>>65576619Niggers couldn't aim before FRTs came out. You might not get a prostate sized group but with a stock and someone with white skin, most of those shots would have been in the white.
>>65576813The long fingernails always gets me.
Reset Triggers aren’t full auto fedboy.
>>65576619Being brown gives you -10 accuracy.
>>65576619>watch one guy shoot one gun at full auto>ALL full auto guns are inaccurate!Go be a retard somewhere else.
>>65576619Lessons learned in WWI and II showed that1. Small arms confrontations tended to happen much closer than the range of your average marksman rifle.2. In those confrontations being able to rapidly suppress someone by hosing their position down with lead was more effective than trying to lay precision shots.Granted, this is for squad v. squad maneuvers and when one guy is busy suppressing another guy has the time to better line up his shots. If you're dueling someone 1v1 the differences aren't as pronounced.
>>65576753>There isnt one. Thats why only dipshits put FRTs on their guns, because they dont care about shooting properly, they care about making noise with their expensive fidget toy and LARPing.Cope harder, retard. Every military service rifle since the 50s has been select fire for a reason.
>>65578620>M14 in Vietnam>L1A1, C1A1
>>65578620The M16A2 was limited to single and 3 round burst. It was the standard US service rifle when the US was actually winning wars and the Flynn effect was causing IQs to rise.And had the best camo.And was just generally cooler all round. Eat my ass you broccoli haired gen z freak. Go take your testosterone supplements you weirdo, we didn't need that shit in the 80s, we just made it ourselves in our bodies in copious amounts.
>>65576629>the fucking state of those overhead baffles.Now you know why your local range doesn't let people go full giggle.
>>6557862099% of infantry fire is semi auto now outside of CQB. Even the most inexperienced national guardsman will tell you if switching to full auto is necessary you're basically making your final stand or raiding a building so compact that you should have just blown it up.
>>65578620Just say you want to look tough at the range for your instagram photoshoot lil pup. While you're playing with your FRT toy real marksmen will pick you off while you field strip for your 5th malfunction.
>>65576619Putting the maximum amount of rounds in the minimum amount of time into an enemy in CQBANDSuppressive fire
>>65578633M14 in Vietnam was select fire.
>>65578633M14 is select fire and was so during VietnamThe original FN FAL is select fire. Leave it to the Brits and Canucks to be different.
looking at the ceiling at that range and i can tell its got no RSO and is visited by only the heavily malonated
>>65578633But the bongs won against third worlders using the automatic version of the L1A1
>people actually debating this like there hasn't been piles of video evidence since the popularization of Glock switchesEven machine pistols, the hardest to control of FA firearms, are highly effective in cqb. The whole semi-auto is better thing is just a cope and a classic case of sour grapes, particularly for rounds that are less effective like pistol rounds. Plenty of vids out there of yns absolutely dusting their ops with the things. If youve watched thousands of shooting videos like I have then you can tell that they're vastly superior in terms of quickly stopping an armed opponent vs typical handgunnery, particularly for the minimally trained. Shockingly hosing somebody down with 20+rnds in 2 seconds flat works really well. Whodathunkit.
>>65579282>YN versus YNwell, thats the issue right there isnt is>FA firearms are greatsure they are, but FRTs are not that and they are work arounds. trusting your shit not to jam with an FRT is stupid. sure, FRT or full auto seems great if you are trying to bushwack someone but then again getting the drop on someone is what won 99% of gun fights since guns were fucking guns
>>65579292Most of your post was just wordswordswrds like bringing up FRTs for some reason. Your claim that FA is only useful for ambushing people but then somehow becomes useless if you aren't ambushing somebody is both the creation of a false assumption(they are not only used or seen used in such a capacity in irl evidence) and boredering on magical thinking. If you're attempting a counterargument then I'd suggest trying again with some sort of actual points as you're arguing against piles of video evidence and you'll otherwise come off as coping
>>65579321lol, bitches about words then drops with circumlocutions youre a fag. second of all as for my aforementioned reasons FA has its places but mostly useful when getting the drop on someone like in an ambushohh, be sure to consume excrement and perish in discomfort
>>65576619It's super fuckin scary when pointed at your face. You'd be best hiding from it.
>>65578589>Lessons learned in WWI and II showed thatMore like WW1. The generals evaluating the M14 and M16 were pretty much WW1 vets looking for that cheap handheld machinegun in which everyone can walk a line down a trench with a weapon they were never promised due to cost. That tactic literally went on till Vietnam. The difference was the M16 was controllable with automatic fire, the M14 was not. The fact is the decision of the M16 and M14 was purely on a never changing infantry doctrine too expensive to fully commit. For example the Browning Automatic Rife was too advanced during WW1, the Thompson was too expensive to commit after that. The last time they tried this was with the M2 Carbine in Korea before the M14. They knew what they were doing and what they wanted before future wars only reinforced that need.
>>65578589>2. In those confrontations being able to rapidly suppress someone by hosing their position down with lead was more effective than trying to lay precision shots.>Granted, this is for squad v. squad maneuvers and when one guy is busy suppressing another guy has the time to better line up his shots. If you're dueling someone 1v1 the differences aren't as pronounced.This is you projecting your imagination onto WWI.
>>65579059>this nigger doesn't know FRTs aren't permanent and many AR FRTs retain semi-autoNooooo, how dare anyone just have fun fucking around at the range, how teeeerrible.
>>65576619This man is a marksman. He was aiming for the right arm to disarm his assailant. A true warrior doesn't kill needlessly.
>>65577838I can't fucking stand having long nails. Mine get trimmed at the first sight of growth. It's truly a disgusting habit to let those things go untrimmed. And that's why you always see it on ...them
>>65576619Fire superiority through suppressive fire.Also if you're close enough that accuracy doesn't matter much.
>>65576619I've never seen a full auto modified M&P before
>>65580360>What are stormtroopers
>>65577838>chirp 60 seconds later >chirp repeat until 9 volt battery dies.
>>65576619That's only the case if you're a weak hood bitch without proper training, stance, experience and upper body strength.
>>65579186>>65579227Because they were so uncontrollable, by the time we got involved in vietnam they were pinning pretty much all m14s to semi only (pic) except for the ones issued to automatic riflemen
>>65576619Do these fucked up triggers not reset at all when you press them, or is this fecal person just too dumb to stop pressing the trigger?
Every shot would have landed if he was shooting an American.
>>65576619This is just how niggers shoot
>>65576619Stockless machine pistols have always been a meme, stocked machine pistols can be decent if you just need a couple of bursts at close range.LMGs, MMGs, and HMGs are literally useless without full auto.For rifles it depends on range, for door kicking or trench fighting FA is the way to go, over ~50 meters you are better off in semi.
>>65580391His initial point of aim was the subcutaneous tissue on the target's hip.What a talented shooter. He starts off with a grazing shot to deter the target without inflicting serious injury, and then switches to suppressing fire, before finally walking his switched/FRT'd pistol onto the target's shoulder for a disabling shot that is unlikely to kill. Truly the most ethical self defense shooter of all time, and not at all an idiot who somehow shoots worse than a lot of people who have never picked up a handgun before.
>>65580563That's just how niggers shoot.
Suppression of an area with a machine gun puts enough bullets into the beaten zone that the enemy doesnt want to stick their head out of cover or reposition. The other rifleman are there to perform aimed shots on targets that do present themselves. The machine gun is still accurate enough that they can hit targets in the area they are threatening and their volume of fire is enough that a mass frontal charge would fail.Rifleman only potentially could be overwhelmed from a massed frontal charge, although thats still a poor choice for the attacker to make.The machine gun can threaten an area and kill exposed targets within the area without actuality needing to see individual targets.For automatic assault rifle fire it is more about firing a burst at dense enemy infantry. The idea is it can fire faster than semi-automatic and so you can wound more enemies before they're able to react and get out of the kill zone.
>>65578633>>M14 in Vietnam>>L1A1, C1A1Nogunz really don't even know the M14 was select fire anymore. And fuck the Bongs, yeah what a great surprise that the most cucked people on earth decided to cuck their soldiers. You've got one country that agrees with you and it's the one that's zero fun to play in Warno because they refuse to buy anything edgy or powerful. >>65578675>The M16A2 was limited to single and 3 round burst.Yeah that'd be select fire. And then we got rid of 3rb because it was an uber retarded idea and no one has even tried to pitch it since. >It was the standard US service rifle when the US was actually winning wars and the Flynn effect was causing IQs to rise.The Flynn Effect would only be affecting the lower ranks, generals choosing rifles would've been way outside of that bubble.Clearly the Flynn Effect missed you, tard>>65579048Yeah, 85IQ lowest common denominator troops will tend to believe shit they're told to prevent them from wasting ammo. Meanwhile SF love full auto, use it all the time and are usually the driving force behind heavy barrels being created for platforms. I know whose opinion I value here. >no anon it's more effective to shoot at people within 100yds on semi than hose them down on full/FRT with a suppressor/muzzle brakeThis is your brain on being a coping retard. Do you think the guys in Vietnam were killing those gooks at point blank with aimed semi auto?>>65579059The cope is tangible, I can practically taste it
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>>65580695When you realize fruity ass nigga is still grouping twice as accurately as the average groid
>rick and morty hoodie>can't hit center mass on a target >7 yards away with a full automust be too high IQ
>>65580675Post grouping coward.
>>65579059>t. exclusively shoots a bolt action .308 or 6.5 from a ridiculous bench support setup that removes all skill
>OP retard vidmachine pistols are gayso are drum mags
>>65580420they have FRTs for them but they were in a grey area for a while as they might as well be a switch
>>65581480With what, an FRT? The point of the thing is you don't need to give a shit about your grouping because it puts 30 rounds in front of you in the time it'd normally take you to squeeze the trigger 5 times. What're you fucking retarded?
>>65581937Guess you're the OP pic then.
>>65576619>SURPRESSING FIRRREEEEEEEE
>>65577187C'mon >range
