I'll start: "Gurkhas" are not and never have been elite or "badass" warriors, just ordinary infantryman
>>65585488Same for the maori
>>65585488All "badass" warrior outfits are just ordinary infantrymen.
>>65585488The "Winged" Hussars didn't really have wings and fly over the battlefield. They were just men on horseback with decorations.
>>65585500b-b-but muh heckin sabaton nerd metal song
>>65585488The thing about the Gurkhas is that they are a small force but have a super high amount of recruits due to prestige and a general wish to get the hell out of Nepal. This lets them select for the absolute best of a wide range of men. They're also ruthless little bastards.
>>65585488>>65585490Another stealth /pol/ thread?
>>65585570This. Like most elite units they develop a huge reputation and myth, mostly just because people love cool action-movie tier stories. The reality is always more restrained than the myth, but it doesn't come from nowhere.It's the same with the Maori, with the Gurkhas, with the French Foreign Legion, the USMC raiders, various countries paratroopers, and even the various special forces outfits. They're often far more effective than comparable forces around the world, but nowhere near their supersoldier reputations.
No they are the best. They run up and down Everest twice a day and that's only during basic. Amerilard waito piggus could never.
>>65585570>due to prestigeno bro, theyre just like jeets, theyre desperate to leave nepal because theres no money or job opportunities there.
The French Foreign Legion aren't elite either yet every time they're mentioned they're explicitly called elite. They're just plain soldiers too and train just like the French regular army. Except they're a bit dumb and incompetent because of the language barrier and the fact that they're mostly retards.
Rather than appearing as formidable elite units, the 1st through 3rd Divisions of the Waffen-SS seem more like formations that suffered massive casualties after being committed to brutal battlefields.
It's just faq ass westerners always worshipping mystical brown people.It's why in the 80's Amerimutts genuinely believed a 100lbs 4 foot chingchong Miagi sensei could whoop a roided up 200 lbs 6'4 white guy with his KARATE.It's why people thought that SIKHS were based badass warrior people ( until you see that they are just as goofy as the other Indians and are only tough when it comes to killing unarmed 3 foot tall Rajheesh)
>>65585488That makes them elite by Indian standards.
>>65585639The SS were elite in the same way the French grognards were; they weren't liable to break and/or desert as they were all fanatical loyalists, so they could be trusted with higher-quality equipment whether or not they knew how to effectively use it.
>>65585600Ghurkas were fearless shock troopers. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. The Bongs loved to use their colonies as cannon fodder, including white Canucks, Aussies and Kiwis. Until the end of WW2, England looks down on the colonies and even Scotland, Wales and Ireland as subservient vassals. Hence why Churchill easily abandoned Singapore and the hapless Aussies and Indians defending it.
>>65585490The Hakka is cool when performed in wide-open fields by strong warriors, not as intimidating when performed indoors in modern clothing.
>>65585639Ignoring that they often were exclusively used for high risk breakthroughs. Were they as elite as their reputation gassd them up to be? Of course not, but they were as well trained as the best Tank divisions of the Wehrmacht and had the highest morale. That's why they were often used for the more deadly encounters in the first place.
>>65585714>The Hakka is coolNo it's not
>>65585488they are foreign merceneries which regular soldiers feel uneasy about so they glaze the mercenaries and give them social status to make sure they feel included and feel loyal
>>65585872I’ve seen it IRL at rugby games, and it really does get people excited, but it doesn’t work outside of that context
The FFL was only cool once during the French invasion of Mexico Even then they kinda got shit on
>>65585490Institutions shouldn't have hakas, simple as. It inevitably results in it being performed by middle aged karens and 12 year old boys. Even then its way overused, shouldn't be done at airports for every random that comes and goes.
>>65585626>>65585640>>65585872>STOP LIKING BROWN THINGS >:(
Elite doesn't mean what you think it means.
>>65585488They are regular infantry, but they are chosen men - like the Royal Marines and Paras. So, a cut above the rest.
>>65585488>You'll get more girls while servingGee thanks Sargent Miles from the recruitment booth, all I got was a herniated disc and a fetish about women dressed as soldiers. But no pussy.
>>65585938certainly not in an office environment like that webm, at least
>>65586126obligatory
>>65585938>It does at Rugby games No it doesn't. I played some kiwis at school, they did a tour of SA. They did one before the game. It's lame and we fucking smoked them - smoked them so bad that I, a lock, scored a try running with the backs. >My only try of the season.
>>65585500Sounds like stolen valor to me.
>>65585570If there's more of them shouldn't that make up for the lack in mass?
>>65585488It's funny because the historical root of the Gurkas being regarded as a warrior race is that they didn't rebel against the British. In a clever bit of social engineering the British designated the placid tribes that didn't rebel as martial tribes and the ones that did rebel as sedentary tribes.
>>65585490Maori are beyond cringe
>>65585488But,
>>65586135The only women that paid attention to me was a nurse attached to my unit and the ladies at the bank offering me ludicrous loans.
>>65586454When Prince Harry went to Afghanistan as an infantryman he was embedded in a Ghurka unit for a reason.>Prince Charles was hoping they would behead the bastard of Diana and the Mayor of Londons affair, due to their iron loyalty to the Crown. Or that they would protect him really well. Idk.
>>65586431That’s another myth. Recruitment took place in the various princely states whose rulers were loyal to the British Crown and viewed their relationship with the British in feudal terms.
>>65586480>infantrymanWasn't he a helicopter pilot, or am I misremembering?
>>65585488I used to live in Aldershot and I remember the Paras and the Scots Guards would walk into pubs and just smash the places up.... UNLESS there were some Ghurkas already there. Then it was very polite. So whatever else they did or did not, the guys best placed to know how Ghurkas were at throwing hands treated them with enormous respect.
>>65586854>Scots guardsWelsh Guards. Memories playing tricks on me in my old age.
>>65585626>theyre just like jeetsNepalese are definitely not jeets.
>>65585488Serbs can fit 2 glass bottles in their anuses sequentially, but not simultaneously.
>>65585938>but it doesn’t work outside of that contextI saw some bridesmaids and female guests do it at a wedding once, and I got an erection. The squatting in mini skirts bit was especially good.
>>65585629>Except they're a bit dumb and incompetent because of the language barrier and the fact that they're mostly retards.The one thing you can definitely say about units like that though, is that they made choice after choice to be there and knew it was going to suck when they made that choice.So there is a certain embracing the suck to them, they're not likely to melt under pressure.>>65586034>shouldn't be done at airports for every random that comes and goes.It has its place but as you say, should not be common.https://youtu.be/XRxmrvOO7Tg?t=1235
>military myths “The USA is a reliable ally”
>>65586792He was an Apache gunner. His brother crewed Royal Navy SAR helicopters.
>>65585872You’re a raging little faggot aren’t you?
>>65586894If anon can't be a raging faggot on 4chan posting contrarianism dressed up as a hot take, where can he?
>>65586901Yes but I think sometimes we fail to call anon out and he goes about his day without having his faggotry mentioned or being made to feel bad about it.
>>655867921st deployment to Afghanistan 2007; Attached (secretly) to 1st Battalion The Royal Gurkha Rifles as a FAC2nd deployment to Afghanistan 2008; Deployed with 662 Squadron, 3 Regiment, Army Air Corps as Apache CPG
>>65585709>England looks down on the colonies and even Scotland, Wales and Ireland as subservient vassals.You're half right, but it's more accurate to say that London looks down on Scotland, Wales, Ireland and England as subservient vassals.
>>65585490hahah these are not a serious people.
>The M16 was sabotaged by the Army who wanted the M14 backI hate how ingrained this one has become, to the point it's become a self-sustaining tide of bullshit that falls apart as soon as you do any meaningful research into it. It tickles my autism in the worst way possible
>>65586894>saying no is raging Someone's triggered >>65586901>contrarianism dressed up as a hot takeThe majority of anons find the haka gay and cringe
>>65585600>USMC raidersbut they're an actual SOF force anon.
>>65585640>Amerimutts genuinely believed a 100lbs 4 foot chingchong Miagi sensei could whoop a roided up 200 lbs 6'4 white guyJews, son, you're talking about Jews. The rest of us knew better.
>>65585629Always had the impression that they were more experienced than French-born troops as they are more likely to be put on combat duty. And war-crimes.
>>65585714>The Hakka is......stone age cancer used by pathetic fecalderm pussies designed to psych themselves up to hit other fecalderm pussies with sticks and rocks.
>>65586070>PLEASE LIKE BROWN THINGS >:{
>>65587313You sound like you have a crippling illness that prevents you from giving credit to things simply because the aesthetics are just a *little* too off for your narrow, steamed carrot and mash eating palette.Like someone could serve you Borscht and you'd be like, "Ah yes, the food of the ethnics"
>>65587357You're the one being impressed and intimidated by unclothed men strutting around slapping themselves in a wide-open field, and I'm not even paraphrasing.
>>65587357You sound like a seething fecalderm getting pissy because the white man doesn't respect your savage-tier bullshit.
>>65585488With the Gurkhas they’re good but it’s because their selection process is so absurd. Last year 10,000 tried out and only 300 made it. That’s going to give you better soldiers but they’re still made of meat at the end of the day. Nothing super human about them.
>>65587421>>65587422>>65587431Back to your containment board, scum.
>>65587421>Lovingly describing unclothed men in physical activity/pol/ never beating those closeted gay allegation
>>65585644>they were all fanatical loyalistsThe SS were just regular infantry.
>>65586454>a fierce firefight with insurgentskek, I went to afghanistan. These stories are all made up. There was nothing in those villages but farmers and their families.
>>65585629I met some FFL dudes one time and their NCOIC (I think? I don't really know how the frogs military works) looked like an actual movie character. Very dour looking with a scar that ran from the bottom of his chin up the side of his jaw and terminating and the bottom of his left ear, and part of his earlobe seemed to be snipped off. Looked slavic so idk if this was an injury from combat or from just your typical eastern european mongoloid lifestyle. Also, every news outlet calls every military unit "elite". When I was in the 101st every article about us always started with "THE ELITE INFANTRY SOLDIERS FROM THE 101ST" as if it wasn't just luck of the draw that we got sent there and that 60% of the unit is angry hispanics
>>65587656>60% of the unit is hispanicsfunny, I'm always told by Americans that the infantry are majority white.
>>65587705Honestly the Infantry nowadays is like a split of 50% white, 40% hispanic, 5% black and 5% random shit like asian or native. As a squad leader I had 2 Ramirezes, an Alvarado, a Gomez, and a Morales. The rest were white. All great dudes.
>>65587705Everyone copes, no matter the branch.
>>65587008sounds eerily similar to the muscovites
>>65587715You sound like a fucking leg.
>>65587726Do you have any idea how gay you sound when you type like that
>>65587726My jump log and wings would disagree with you faggot>I am a 5 jump chump
>>65585488It is in the interest of imperial powers to propagandise the contributions of their subjects>wooow Irish/Scots/Gurkhas/Australians/etc. you're suuuuuch good soldiers! Keep joining the military, great job!
>>65587784The British always shat on Australians despite them being their best soldiers.
>>65587455I think its my favourite stereotype at this point
>>65586183Do you still play? I'm in Texas but we have a few south Africans on our team.>t. Prop/flanker
>>65587605>were just regular infantry.Yet they smoke the US Army so hard that they (The US Army), refuse to take any SS member as prisoner. Probabily as a revenge or impotent rage.
>>65585488You're a retard and have no idea what you're talking about. When I lived in Singapore there were Gurkas who stood guard outside the international school. This was considered a luxury posting for Gurkas and despite this they would stand there for 12+ hours in 100f+ degree heat and be absolutely unbothered. One time I was playing catch and the football lodged high up in a palm tree with no branches about 40 ft up. A Gurka scaled a tree just by wrapping his arms and legs around it and in about 30 seconds grabbed it and threw it down. At the annual marathon almost every year the top ten finishers were gurkas and would finish well in advance of every single other person including professional athletes and runners from the American military and the Singaporean military, which was no joke. If Gurkas on vacation are that tough I'm pretty sure ones during wartime are much much tougher. I would also like to see the armchair general OP try to tell them that they're normal infantrymen before they disembowel you with a kukri and wear your ass as a hat.
>>65585629I remember watching a documentary about the FFL training and some tiny dysgenic pygmy congolese creature with a weird crooked vulture neck couldn't do the final march and his classmates had to carry his stuff while he fake limped and drank from a canteen with his oversized disgusting lips drooling spit everywhere it was fucking horrible. and he got the white shako at the end despite objectively failing at every single task. lmao the FFL is a joke
>>65588112you're a fat retarded faggot who needs to go back to plebbit where you belong
>>65588072It's "impudent", not "impotent". Dipshit.
>>65585629>>65587305French foreign legion receive the same combat formation as the rest of the French army. Except the 2st airborne for being airborne who receive the airborne training. The real difference is that the pool of recruitment is larger (French and international) and the réputation already discourages the faint hearted. And yes, you’re going to do a lot more sport in the legion than in other non specialised corps (airborne, marines or mountaineering). The discipline is also much harsher. And so is expected of the obedience.
>>65587176Why we never heard of marsoc this days ? Why it’s always seal team six ?
>>65587605Not exactly, the SS was the paramilitary of the nazi party. The waffen SS were SS units who were supposed to fight with the army. They were infantry, tanks and sappers in the SS
The Waffen-SS expanded too rapidly to allow for the expected level of training among its soldiers.
>>65586259There's only so much budget to go around, and the Ghurkas are a cooperative unit with the British Army. As I understand it, prospective recruits that don't meet their standards typically end up with Nepal's own army.
>>65588137How have you never encountered the term "impotent rage" before? Is English your third language or something? You should at least have seen that shit in GTA.
>>65588234>prospective recruits that don't meet their standards typically end up with Nepal's own army.Nepal obviously. But even India, Singapour... (probably other asean countries) they all have "Ghurkas" (really Nepalese) units.Even the French Foreign Legion have plenty of Nepalese nowadays.
>>65588137Way to reveal yourself as a thirdie with no grasp of the English language,
>>65585488Tard helmets with ear cutouts and fag vests that cover a small part of your chest are a meme, look retarded and shouldn't even jokingly be considered military gear
>>65588294I love how unaligned country without trannies is still considered a viable insult for randalls and bubbas
>>65588321based, I fucking hate high cuts.
This whole thread is just /pol/ spilling over onto the board again to bitch. Just being a bit more subtle than usual when its them spamming their personal collection of gay/black porn.
In military terms an elite is a group that is reliable and willing to die. Most soldiers are lazy and unwilling to do anything, least of all die. It doesn't mean Rambo like soldiers who solo entire armies.
>>65588336>gay/black pornOnly happen in your head, moshe.
>>65588336threadly reminder every single 4pleb who complains about /pol/ on other boards is a transsexual faggot from tumblr who is mere days from hanging xerself
>moshe>transsexualYeah, its that sort of response that makes it obvious.
>41%clock's ticking, xer. are you counting the weeks or days? what name will your parents use for your tombstone, your given name or your LARP name?
