So after a 3-day pause in strikes (one-sided), it looks like the dronings will continue til morale improves. Hopefully we will be getting fresh footage of wailing russians watching Flamingo-strikes again
Su-34's have oil in them, i guess?
>>65588224If you squeeze anything hard enough I reckon oil will come out
>>65588188Good. Fuck Trump's bullshit. All of Russia should be on fire 24/7.
>>65588188From "You don't have any cards" to "STOP PLAYING YOUR CARDS! I WILL THROW YOU OUT OF THE CASINO!"
>>65588224Kek, eternal parking
>>65588224Heh
>>65588335Warcrime, you have been reported
>>65588335So.. what did it hit?? I don't see any plane.
>>65588339>that tweetWhat the fuck man
>>65588351>>65588258>Russia even in the slightest trouble >American political elite racing to save themName a more iconic duo.
>>65588398thank you Saar
>>65588398Tumor weaks, saar >>65588393
Not posting the same handful of spammer images would probably help avoid such claims too.
>>65588408I think they only have a set amount of FSB-approved images
>>65588270>even before a commission arrives to assess the damageIn other words, they will do fuck all since obstructing the commission might get them reassigned to the meat grinder.
>>65588409May we add the Belgians to this list? I don't trust those fuckers
>>65588188>>65588335holy based
>>65588417But the waffles?!
>>65588417>Luxemburg hands typed this
>>65588398And doing that wouldn't backfire extremely hard right before the primaries...
What will happen after every candidate endorsed by Trump loses in midterms?
>>65588408>>65588412What I always found funny is most of those pro-Russia memes are just adapted from pro-Ukraine memes. Like that "Ukraine winning simulator" meme was doing the rounds originally as a "Russia winning simulator" meme during the Kherson liberation all the way back in 2022. Same with the "what blew up this time?" was originally about HIMARS turning ammo dumps into cotton fields.Zigs can't innovate, only imitate.
>>65588342nobody knows what it hit at all or even if it hit anything the worst part of it they are just so stupid to release such picture
>wake up>wave of /pol/ shitAlright, what blew up this time
>>65588404FIVE MORE YEARS, CUMRAG!
>>655884534-6 planes and a refinery.Also fyi here's the faggot spamming herehttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/username/БPЧ/
>>65588417seconding thist.belgian
>>65588335Ooof
>>65588453Well the ukies hit an airfield, the russians hit a shopping center
>>65588335>6 su 34i dont think people understand just how big an su 34 is IF it hit any it probably hit one and one might have being damaged but you aint see shit on this photo
>>65588459i don't want to sound like a zigger shill but how do we know there was 6 planes there? satellite imagery?
>>65588465You can see 6 planes parked there on the 13th
>>65588474So they stroke their strike at some parked planes, doesn't mean they hit them.
>>65588439>"Why would you hobble yourself even more in an upcoming election where your opinion polls are already shaky?">"Because otherwise TRANNIES!"You should run for politics or be a campaign coordinator. I can already tell you'd be great at it.
>trump ceasing fire: redeemed
>>65588476Your ESL makes my brain go on strike due to stroke. Goddammit, giving the third world access to the internet was a fucking disaster.
>>65588465>how do we know there was 6 planes thereThere are literally plane debris on the air field
>>65588417>>65588458Flemish cannot be trustedNow Walloons? They gave us FN Herstal, I love FN and John Moses Browning!!!
>>65588459>>65588474might not be 6 but they definitely hit a few of them
>>65588339I don't even understand the context here can someone explain ?
>>65588489Nothing that cant be fixed with some cement and anal sex
>>65588489
Looking at pic atleast 4 complete wrecks.
>>65588494yeah 1 and 6 are probably just damage and wheeled away then again considering russia aircraft industry those are probably out for some time if they ever return to combat
>>65588500>probably just damage>jetbruh, they are toast, you don't "fix" a jet after such damage
>>65588505Humans probably could, not sure about Russians
>>65588505they were still in good enough shape to be wheeled out tho look like the Ukrainians hit the 2 middle one directly and the fire spread left and right
>>65588511It's actually the other way around. Normal countries wouldn't try to fix those inherently compromised airframes. Russians would try to because they don't give a shit about safety. But not even russians would be able to.>>65588513"Wheeled out" might as well be "managed to clean up before satellite made a photo", because removing evidence of a fuck up is the first action for ruslims.
>>65588339>>65588351>>65588491There was a rumour yesterday that he was on his way to Moscow for secret talks with the FSB, but it turned out not to be true. Instead he was at an event illegally campaigning for a GOP congressman, so he hasn't yet openly admitted to working with a US adversary, he was only egregiously abused his office for the president's benefit. I guess he got shitfaced or something after and decided it was a good idea for the head of US counterintelligence to post this in the middle of a diplomatic crisis.
>>65588555*abusingfuck me i need to proofread more goodlier
>>65588457And another data center
>>65588555Is there any head currently that isn't a complete fuckup?
>>65588564Ironically enough, the current ATF director
>>65588564rubio seems the most competent of the lot, but that's not setting the bar very high
>>65588224Are those some warhammer logo on the fencing?
>>65588564there is something very ironic in the current administration hating ( rightfully ) the result of decades of russian propaganda and it's disastrous consequences for the west, yet loving russia so much
>>65588564The CNO is pretty decent
>>65588270QUICK! Shove it over there into the burning pile of other Sukhois!
>>65588572that's because they too are the result of russian propaganda
>>65588398Since when does Trump need "an excuse" to do anything, you dumb faggot? He does whatever he wants regardless of casus belli.
>>65588569Rubio is honestly okay, but he can't be too effective when he's surrounded by retards
>>655883983 more days!!
>>65588569Rubio is bidinghis time so he can be seen as the moderate MAGA representative for the next presidential elections.
>>65588188It was never off the menu, the Ukies hit a refinery the day after Trump told them to stop.
>>65588590>>65588586Yeah, watching Rubio try to hide in the couch during the first Trump-Zelensky meeting kinda convinced me that he was the adult in the room
>>65588569I liked his Athens speech
>>65588593*claimed he made a a ceasefire between them and Russia without asking either
>>65588598He realized selling his soul for power was probably a bad idea but too late.
Aaand the post count starts droppingKek
>>65588188>Russia on fire >Gun laws being loosened>Just got a pay raise the other dayGoddamn it’s a good day to be an American
>>65588611Then Zelensky asked what Trump would offer in return for stopping and was told Starlink would keep working.Straight up extortion.
>>65588613Got to imagine that awkward moment standing for judgement and asked you why you pulled the migrant ladder up behind you to keep other Cuban niggas down
>>65588571I was thinking the same thing?
>>65588598Rubio and Vance are both smart enough to know better but let the lust for power corrupt them.It shows both would happily fuck over the country if their donors say so.
>>65588613I think the plan was for him to play tardwrangler like Pompeo did, but unlike Trump's first term, now there are too many tards to wrangle.
>>65588626>Straight up extortion.yeah, trump should be ashamed of himself
>>65588637Yeah, Vance is such a two-faced power-chaser. He now says literally the opposite of whatever he previously stood for just to get ahead.
>>65588637JD is just a robot designed in the Tiel labs to be the “perfect candidate”. Unfortunately he lacks any real charisma and just appears fake at all times.
>>65588642That's exactly what I was saying, I didn't realize it could be taken in a pro-zigger way.
>>65588653>“perfect candidate”kek perfect for who? white republican maga tards will never vote this jeet family
>>65588624Don’t forget:>Iran is also on fire Though that’s just an extension of Russia being on fire since Iran is connected ass-to-mouth with Russia
>>65588569Rubios only goal is seeing the Cuban goverment destroyed. He is basically gambling on the chance to do so. I use his face in the background to judge how things are going. He usually looks miserable and I have serious doubts he will be able to wrangle things enough to see Cuba burn.
>>65588676Even JFK is too late desu, we genuinely need a Teddy Roosevelt in office again.
>>65588566He's honestly not bad at his job, feels like the first ever director who doesn't want to just fuck gunowners as a mission objective, but is he president material?>>65588569I guess maybe? I haven't kept up lots, but has Vance blown it? He seemed pretty good at first, but the admin as a whole isn't too endearing to me at this point.
>>65588662He was designed for the pre-Trump era. When Repubs had to at least pay lip service to diversity
>>65588670That'd be kind of based, but not enough to vote for alone.
>>65588717He's not a complete fuck up, which was the purview of the question; nothing about being "president material".Whatever the fuck that means in CURRENT YEAR where Zelensky, Trump, Milei, the fat lipped Serbian dude, and Bukele exist
>>65588670I think Trump is blue balling him with Cuba on purpose.
>>65588730Aside from the island thing Milei’s actually been pretty good for Argentina
>>65588750Nah, he's only doing the island thing right now because things in Argentina have gone to shit again now (and because Israel are upset with Britain and told him to)
>>65588720they need a new model STAT
>>65588750Yeah, secured billions in US taxpayer money to prop up his "libertarian" government lmao
>>65588776I mean, smart? Why would you not accept money?
>>65588664But the redditors say they're not actually allies?
>>65588749I think he was before Iran but now he doesn't know what to think.He believed every war could be as quicky and easy as snatching Maduro but now he seems to be starting to listen to his military advisors that warned him against Iran.I'm just Rubio keeps going on about how quick and easy Cuba would be but it wouldn't take many medium range drones for Cuba to fuck on Florida and oil platorms in the gulf.Iran, Russia and China would all be more than happy to help supply and train them too.
>>65588786Redditors are retarded anon, half of Reddit is Russian bots
>>65588788*I'm sure Rubio keeps going on
>>65588754>>65588776Seething kirchnerists
>>65588794who?
>>65588788>china supplying drones that attack mainland united stateslol>russia supplying anything to anyonelmao>iranroflcopter
>>65588626Starlink is back on now though
>>65588803OK lets assume no one supplies anything and they just buy form the chink market and build Dornier DAR clones.That is something youtubers do, it's not complex.
>>65588730What's wrong with Bukele? CECOT is downright visionary, what other leader has done something of that caliber for their country in the past 30 years?
>>65588339Can someone explain why a fucking retarded and incompetent jeet who appeared in a russian oligarch funded miniseries is the director of the FBI?
>>65588817Clown world
>>65588817I mean do you really want competent people in charge of the 3 letter agencies? The less competent the less guns they can take
>>65588788>but it wouldn't take many medium range drones for Cuba to fuck on Florida and oil platorms in the gulf.unfortunately for cuba they have fuckall manufacturing and are a tiny island right off our coast. they might be able to scrape something together for a single chimpout, but they can't sustain anything
>>65588788Bro, the only reason the Cuban government is still standing is because the Americans haven't bothered. If they wanted them gone, they'd send specops to yoink all the major leaders and then ice the ones which won't let themselves be taken. By the time what passes for a military on their behalf notices, the country will be blockaded and boots would be on the ground, China and Russia would be cut off from any dealings with them before they even know it. If they have any drones, they have a tiny window to apply them.Cuba is a WAY smaller fish than Venezuela.
>>65588571I can see the outline but not the eagle.
>>65588826Rubio is probably dreaming of cuba being retarded enough to attack the US that would be ground for invasion which would probably be quick seeing how fast Venezuela folded
>>65588788Cuba is already a failed state, and even more as the Venezuelan regime that kept it afloat for over 20 years banished over night. What's the point of invading a failed nation?
>>65588852Trump first made it clear he was hostile to Cuba in 2017, 9 years ago.Maybe they have done nothing to prepare but that would be very foolish.
>>65588788China wouldn’t do shit. Cuba is too poor and too small and right off our coast so there’s no way for them to win, and Cuba and China have no history together. China is currently winning by doing nothing and they’re not going to remind wipipo that they exist as the only real threat to the white hegemony. A invasion of Cuba also sets up that invading island neighbors is a-ok. It’s a pretty glaring double standard if we invade Cuba which was never a US territory and make them a slave state while arguing the Chinese mainland isn’t allowed to reunite with Taiwan, which they both agree is “China.”
>>65588624Honestly at this point I would gladly give up the 2nd amendment to see Russia destroyed
>>65588563So that's four now?
>>65588881Fuck off, go kill them yourself if it's that important to you.
>>65588889My donations are worth far more than my life. I am not a battle hardened Ukrainian, but I am a wealthy American who can put bullets in his gun.
>>65588865prepare how ? they probably happy not to have a revolt on their hand right now good luck getting peoples to fight when the country is a shithole
>>65588895A slightly less shithole country would build SRBMs but becasue Cuba is broke as shit they would have to stick with drones.I'm not saying they are going to defeat the US military in conventional war, I do think they could set a lot of oil rigs on fire and cause a market crash.
>>65588896and then what ? the country is invaded and the peoples in charge are at best captured at worst dead what would be the point for them ?you think these peoples are noble revolutionaries who believe in the greatness of communism ? you cannot be that fucking stupid, they are just a bunch of grifter trying to keep their way of life, personal wealth and control over their country they have literally no reason to fuck it up
>>65588881I'm not willing to give up my freedoms. Puccians just need to rot and broken apart so they don't get uppity again. Putin is doing an excellent job of destroying whatever they got left but not fast enough
>>65588904>what would be the point for themAnon if you country was being invaded and you had no chance would you make the cost as high as possible or lay back and die without putting up a fight?
>>65588904I agree with your post overall but I do think I should remind you that nations are not led by robots. The entire Ukraine war was caused by tsar monke doing something so utterly stupid half of the west was saying "bro there's no way they would be stupid enough to attack right now, there would be a highway of death for hundreds of kilometers".And then there was a highway of death for hundreds of kilometers.
>>65588913>or lay back and die without putting up a fight?if my country was a fucking shithole run by retarded commies you bet your sweet ass I'm siding with the invading army
>>65588920Thirdies cannot comprehend that loyalty is earned. They only know two things.>The one above me has the stick>But at least I have my own smaller stick for the ones below me
>>65588920They aren't invading to make your life better, they just hate free healthcare existing so close it makes the donors angry.
>>65588917the difference is on paper russia should have won the war, they just underestimate how much Ukrainians actually hate them on paper Cuba has zero chance to accomplish anything that would not fuck their leaders 10x more
>>65588909What’s the point of our guns if we don’t use them to fight Russia? Genuinely at this point if we took the guns and sent them to Ukraine at least they’d do some actual good.
>>65588922>Free healthcare I always laugh at this idiocy. It's not free and it sucks.>>65588921>>65588920I felt exactly like this as a Venezuelan for over twenty years until it happened.
>>65588813Le funny meme strong arm dictator man. Not "president material" like Eisenhower, but at least he's no Zachary Taylor
>>65588922>They aren't invading to make your life betterthey barely have any food medication or gas and live under a tyrannical commie dictatorship it can hardly be worst the US taking control of Cuba would 100% improve the lives of the peoples this is not even up for debate
>>65588881See, now this is the kind of zigger agitprop that could actually be effective. If you're not a bot, I hope your supervisor gives you access to the good coffee as a reward.
>>65588881Neuter your fucking self and go enlist in Wagner you stupid un-American fuck>>65588931Cum sweetened, surely!
>>65588931It’s not a bot or zigger, the Russian internet is down after the Ukrainian strikes on their data centers
>>65588924Don't be stupid. It's our constitution and our lifehood. My heart its empathetic with Ukraine but I am not going to throw our country in arms for a foreign country, even though I hate Russians and I think they're a blight upon this world
>>65588931>I hope your supervisor gives you access to the good coffee as a rewardMore likely he'll get to access KY instead of spit during the dedovschina
>>65588936Hopefully it stays down or they segregate themselves
>>65588937Ukraine has done more for western freedoms at this point than your constitution, nobody is free under a Russian dictatorship
>>65588930>the US taking control of Cuba would 100% improve the lives of the peoplesMaybe Marshall Plan US but that died a lot time ago, see Venezuela for current day outcomes.
>>65588936That was a good meme, but not really, no
>>65588943I don't remember Ukraine being a state of the USA. Nor Western aligned ally. America is NOT the world; contrary to what Eurocucks and third worlders say!
>>65588952That’s because most of the Russian bots are on Reddit
>>65588953Out of curiosity, why are you taking the bait so hard?
>>65588188based dubs
>>65588958Nothing like seeing impotent zigger rage for a few keks! This thread will get pruned anyway, may as well probe the asshole ya know
>>65588952>>65588955And the facebook, twitter, etc. botnets are run from india and China, not Russia.
>>65588952Why would MAGA accounts be affected by Russian internet being down?
>>65588980Yeah its a mystery
>>65588980
>>65588980A decent amount of these CHRISTIAN BASED & TRAD TEXAN MAGA accounts are either puccian or jeet bot accounts.
>>65588817POG (podcaster occupied government)
>>65588994I mean so far the Trump presidency has been a disaster for Putin. His data centers are down, his oil is on fire, his allies are gone, and his front line has collapsed. Ukraine has made more progress in 2 years under Trump than they made in 4 under Biden.
>>65589003That's inspite of Trump, not because of it, dumb faggot.
>>65589008Only if you’re as misinformed as Putin
>>65589003>two years of Biden>Kyiv gesture of good will, Snake Island, Izyum rout, Liberation of Kherson>two years of Trump>around a 100 square km next to Lymanlol lmao eve
>>65589052Weird way of spelling the complete collapse of the Russia frontlines
>>65589003>His data centers are down, his oil is on fireExclusively because of Ukrainian made long range weapon systems paid for by the EU. Trump refused to provide tomahawks.> his allies are goneChina and North Korea are still there. These are the only ones that matter as Iran‘s contribution after Russia got the know how to make Gerans is irrelevant.> and his front line has collapsedMostly thanks to weapons provided by Europe and new Ukrainian tactics as well as four years of attrition.>Ukraine has made more progress in 2 years under TrumpIt really hasn’t. It effectively only now recovered from 2025 when all US material aid ceased and it spent most the year outgunned until local production and European supplies filled the gap.Trump has done jack shit to help Ukraine. Now just as things are turning against Russia he conveniently decides to fuck the Ukrainians over one more time.
>>65589077Anon, European aid to Ukraine rose massively immediately after Trump’s elections, much of this from American contributions. Ukraine would not be doing nearly as well if the US weren’t providing massive amounts of military aid and support.
>>65589077Probably still holdng a grudge for the Biden investigation thing
>>65589082Anon you can just read things instead of imagining.https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12040
>>65589089If you genuinely think that all of America’s aid is available for the public to see then not only are you clueless about operational security but you’re as naive as Putin
>>65589082>Anon, European aid to Ukraine rose massively immediately after Trump’s elections, much of this from American contributionsEU support increased due to the fact the US support was drawndown. Saying European aid to Ukraine rose due to american contributions is peak retardation.
>>65589106We don't need to know every little detail, the people that do wrote>The Trump Administration has announced some new security assistance for Ukraine, at levels lower than from FY2022 to FY2024, while continuing to provide certain previously committed assistance. In 2025, DOD twice briefly paused and resumed the provision of assistance to Ukraine. Some NATO and European officials reportedly have expressed concern that U.S. military operations against Iran could lead to procurement shortages and delays that may affect assistance to Ukraine.
>>65589107That makes no sense, why would Europe not be giving 100% effort in supporting Ukraine before this? Far more likely is that the US just started routing aid through Europe.
>>65589120Cognitive dissonance at work
>>65589120The US started SELLING to Europe with permission to transfer to Ukraine, that isn't aid it's standard arms exports.You can read more here >>65589089
>>65589123If what you say is true then most of Europe is traitors to Ukraine
>>65589127How is increasing aid year over year treason while cutting aid year over year isn't?
>>65589142Holding back funds when Ukraine needs them because you think Kamala might win and if she wins that gives you permission to slack off and not provide more support is absolutely treasonous and pro-Russian
>>65589144>Holding back fundsEveryone is always "holdng back funds", not even Ukraine is putting 100% of their GPD into the war effort and you are so fucking stupid you will think that means Ukraine is holding back because you have a childs understanding of war and economics.
>>65589150Ukraine doesn’t have to put in 100% because Russia is actually that weak
>>65589155Name any country in any war that ever put 100% of their GPD into the war effort.
>>65589158That’s what Total War is retard, 100% of the nation being directly or indirectly put to supporting a war, be it economically or militarily. Ukraine is putting in like, 30% effort right now, and they’re still kicking Russia’s ass.
>>65589163>That’s what Total War is retardSo tell me the country and war, you should be able to find it.Germany topped out at 75% towards the end of WW2, the highest of any modern war.
>>65589170The remaining 25% of Germany’s economy was still important to supporting the war effort.
>>65589120Europe stupidity toward russia is beyond retarded and I say this as a Belgian >russia spend the whole cold war financing and helping colonies revolt against European rule >finance the anti nuclear movement in Europe >finance far left ideologies in Europe and the US essentially create the woke idiocy >relocates russian into eastern Europe to delude the population >obviously threatening war forcing Europe/US to keep spending on defense despite all that shit, after the wall felt Europe does not try to fuck with russia but treat them like a normal country and do business with them >russian promptly start bribing far right party that can ride of the consequences of decades of soviet leftist propaganda >keep financing anti nuclear movement in Europe to make us dependent on russian gas >start fucking with neighbors again and think the can take over all of Europe now honestly we should just go all in and try to destroy that fucking country because they are just never going to stop fucking with us
>>65589181We really need to study the brains of pro-Russian Americans and Europeans. The fact that both far-left and right people globally support them for completely different ideological reasons is astounding.
>>65588391>RUSSIA IS THE RED MENACE!!1!!>Nooo, you can't just defeat the poor puccians USA-chan is such a tsundere.
>>65588555This is too stupid to be real
>>65589202Based on Reddit it seems to come from an extremely moralistic stance. They’re fine with Ukraine winning in theory, but as soon as Zelensky has to remove Federov to make that happen all of a sudden they’re up in arms and indignant.
>>65588457>achieving FIRE to shitpost western supremacy all day on 4chanLiving the dream man, I'm jelly
>>65588458>seconding this>t.belgianNo memery, did the data centre strikes reduce Flemish/Walloonian shitposting on twitter/facebook?
>>65589202It's simple really, stupid people love to think the grass is greener and the classic metaphor of the slippery slope is greased very effectively by money and blackmail.Just as in Russia being gay is illegal and yet the loudest homophobes are sucking dick constantly, US right wing politicians who suck cock in a bathroom are placing a massive "BLACKMAIL ME" target on their backs because if word got out they were gay their political career is over. The textbook classic zigger blackmail move is the "Get someone doing something taboo and record it" bit, if said act is also illegal even better. That alone is a significant reason homosex will be "illegal" in Russia just like corruption is despite the shithole literally being built around it, the counterpoint to "it's only illegal if you get caught" being "you only get caught if you don't do exactly what I tell you to".Combine this with narcissistic politicians who NEVER think "hmm this seems pretty suspicious, why would this person be lovebombing me?" and a small stipend from the tsar to make the medicine sweeter and you have a shockingly effective means of controlling politicians.
>>65588459>>65588464>>65588465>>65588474Well you can see pieces of two at the outer edges of the impact. Ukies claim it was Long Neptune, Ziggers say it was forbidden westtech.
>>65588489>might not be 6 but they definitely hit a few of themThe updated claim is 4 destroyed, 2 "affected".>>65588598>watching Rubio try to hide in the couch during the first Trump-Zelensky meetingYou know how desperate he was because he tried to hide in the couch while sitting next to JD
>>65588952afd politicians make sense since i assume they're at least posting from germany and aren't themselves bots, but 136 maga profiles? what does it mean?
>>65588730Zelenskyy doesn't belong on that list. He rose to the occasion in the invasion and before that, he was merely disappointing which is actually not bad by Ukrainian presidential standards. He would have lost the next election but he wouldn't have been hated or remembered as turbo-corrupt or a traitor.
>>65589283I feel like Zelensky will ironically end up being idolized by the right-wing and hated by the centrists by the time this war is over
>>65588786>the redditors say they're not actually alliesIs that the opinion of r/jihad?I don't think reddit as a whole supports either country.
>>65589236>twitter/facebookIm gonna be honest anon, I only use facebook to keep up with the boomers I know who organically swallow russian propaganda anyway, regardless of botnetsunless you mean seperatist and or flanders/ wallonia split-posting in which case I have even less of a clueand I dont have an account on twitter
>>65589287Reddit for the most part hates both Ukraine and Russia. Russia for being the aggressor, and Ukraine for being too based and right-wing.
>>65589291Reddit isn't a single uniform entity, its a collection of different boards of various topics (or in their case also multiple on similar topics).
>>65588866>It’s a pretty glaring double standard if we invade Cuba which was never a US territory and make them a slave stateAre there enough Cuban sandbox vets for BoP2: Distraction Boogaloo?
>>65589310Hence why I said “for the most part”.
>>65588881>Honestly at this point I would gladly give up the 2nd amendment to see Russia destroyedFortunately, the two issues aren't linked so that won't be necessary or even useful.
>>65589283>>65589284Zelensky deserves the credit simply through his decision to stay in the capital and not flee like a coward when Kyiv was under siege, like Putin did two years later. That saved Ukraine as a country. I can't imagine any scenario where him fleeing wouldn't have crushed Ukrainian morale and led to the fall of the city, and 99% of modern western politicians are utterly spineless and would have been on the first plane out. He is not perfect and he has made bad decisions and definitely participated in some of the corruption he promised to root out. But without him Ukraine would have been fucked, and internationally he was a figurehead that helped to negotiate a shitload of foreign aid and make deals that kept Ukraine in the fight.
>>65588924
>>65588339I don't get the constant Russia dick sucking when Iran is enemy number 1 right now and Russia is one of their greatest allies
>>65588936>It’s not a bot or zigger, the Russian internet is down after the Ukrainian strikes on their data centersThe bots aren't actually hosted in the data centres, more like using the data that Yandex harvests.They'll have their own FSB dedicated data centre
>>65589322>He is not perfect and he has made bad decisions and definitely participated in some of the corruption he promised to root out.Honestly, when? Maybe before the war but he’s stayed very focused since the war started.
>>65589003>Ukraine has made more progress in 2 years under Trump than they made in 4 under Biden.No, the Kharkiv and Kherson advances dwarf recent modest progress.
>>65589337Those were mere advances, Russias in full retreat mode, this is a complete collapse of the front lines
>>65589067>Weird way of spelling the complete collapse of the Russia frontlinesFrom your keyboard to the Great Cosmic Clown's DMs anon.
>>65588931It's a midterm redditard
>>65589331I’ve heard some generalizations of his choice of commanders and gov but not enough to justify the claim imo he does have that typical problem of doing shit at the worst time. Also something about the NBU
>>65589211>RUSSIA IS THE RED MENACENo. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
>>65588188How come every time Ukraine gets some kind of advantage on the field the US comes in and shits on the table? It's a pattern at this point.
>>65589379Tbh most of the shit you see leveled against Zelensky is just liberal whinging because it turns out liberalism doesn’t work in wartime. Shit like freaking out about Federov’s sacking even though Federov was a traitor or naming a unit after the UPA even though that’s fucking harmless and doesn’t matter
>>65589397I mean at this point it’s all of Europe desu. Zelensky straight up said nobody in Europe is helping him against missile strikes
>>65589437it's like europe is afraid ukraine will win and then no more cheap gas & oil from russia (ukraine will take too long to ramp up exports)
>>65589291They are also for the most part, pro Iran. Mostly because Islam=good in the eyes of redditors
>>65589226>This is too stupid to be realThe Russian thing was probably a democrat dirty trick to expose the illegal use of the FBI directorship to campaign for the party and on the government dime.
>>65589202Funny things happen when you fund extremists and radicals on both ends of the political spectrum.
>>65589437Does anyone have ammo for the appropriate systems? Drones are easy but BM defence options are a lot more limited.
>>65589467It’s worse than that, Europe’s turned off even their early warning systems for Ukraine
>>65589474They have?
>>65589291>and Ukraine for being too based and right-wing.The reddit dog is overwhelmingly a left wing group. Not just "social justice and healthcare seem like good ideas" but turbo-leftists who want to ban petroleum and enforce pronouns and they still love Ukraine and hate Russia.
>>65589331>Honestly, when? Maybe before the war but he’s stayed very focused since the war started.His closest allies keep turning out to be corrupt and his chief of staff before Budanov was turbo-corrupt.
>>65589492>and they still love UkraineLet’s not get ahead of ourselves, most Redditors barely tolerate Ukraine at most>>65589499Fair, but he’s really cleaned house since then, fired Federov for example
>>65589341>this is a complete collapse of the front linesIf that were true, it would require a degree of OPSEC that I don't believe Russia is capable of. Russia is actually advancing in some areas, just slower than Ukraine is advancing in others.Ukraine can force local collapses but only in one place at a time and it's a pretty slow collapse, really just pushing ziggers out of settlements.
>>65589486Unfortunately yes
>>65589407>even though Federov was a traitorThe fuck he was.
>>65588391While I agree that Trump is a fucking retard, let's try not to pretend that Europe didn't basically fund their own invasion by sucking down Russian gas.
>>65589512Huh, i didnt know anybody but the US had that kind of capability.
>>65589514He was literally calling for elections in Ukraine during wartime, the lefty faggot absolutely was a traitor
>>65588569I keep seeing this, but what the hell has Rubio actually done that's competent?
>>65589516Europe has the capability, just not the will
>>65589507>Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, most Redditors barely tolerate Ukraine at mostThe NAFO crowd are as reddit as it gets and the love Ukraine like it's a spinny fidget toy or a new PSP given to them by their wife's boyfriend.
>>65589530The only people who use the word NAFO are Russian bots. Most Redditors barely tolerate Ukraine, they’re okay with them over Russia but they’re quite hostile to their culture
>>65589507>fired Federov for exampleI haven't heard any accusations of corruption levelled at Federov, or treason like you said earlier. And this claim that the EU turned off launch detection is similarly false.I think you're an old fashioned concern troll.Honestly it's been a while since I saw one that so clearly fits the playbook.
>>65589322And here I thought it was the multiple years worth of total gdp in military weapons that saved Ukraine but it turns out all they needed was a midget in cosplay
>>65589539>https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdew8n9erlwoWhatever your handlers are paying you Ivan, it’s too much
>>65589520>calling for elections in Ukraine during wartimeThat's a political opinion, not treason.The difference is something a slave wouldn't understand. >>65589524>what the hell has Rubio actually done that's competent?Maduro?He's yet to fuck up or sell out to (foreign) enemies, that puts him at the top of the list.The bar is that low.
>>65588391>Name a more iconic duo Let's go with America's asshole and Israel's cock.
>>65589549>That's a political opinion, not treason.A political opinion handed to someone by the Kremlin designed to weaken the nation during wartime is treason. There’s no benefit to elections, they can’t be conducted safely while the war is ongoing, and the only people concern-trolling about elections are, you guessed it, Russian supporters.
>>65589547Not treason or corruption, as you promised. You're a zigger, calling me Ivan to deflect and confuse other anons. You're concern trolling.
>>65589326how new? Putin has been pockets of every politician and influencer possible for decades while spreading discord to get them elected. they've been cashing in on their investment since the war started.
>>65589560>repeating Kremlin-made talking points word for word to weaken Ukraine isn’t treasonThey’re not sending their best
>>65589557>A political opinion handed to someone by the Kremlin designed to weaken the nation during wartime is treason. There’s no benefit to elections, they can’t be conducted safely while the war is ongoingAnybody who lives in democracies that actually change leaders, governments, and reshuffle cabinets understands why Federov did that.Your treason accusation is concern trolling about Ukraine being run by traitors.
>>65589569>Anybody who lives in democracies that actually change leaders, governments, and reshuffle cabinets understands why Federov did that.Except every single one of those democracies also has contingencies that restrict elections during wartime. You’re not fooling anyone Vlad, suspending elections during war is normal and acting like Ukraine is unusual for doing it is peak concern-trolling.
Post your favourite flamingo/drone hits on a Russian refinery webm.
>>65589524people just look upon his ability to keep his mouth shut and not associate himself with failures with glowing reviews at this point because otherwise the next elections going to be even more of a clusterfuck somehow
>>65589593not quite what you asked for but it made me think of this VERY SERIOUS and VERY STRONG DEFENSE mockup of a russian refinery
>just violate your constitution bro>said on 2A board
>>65589600lmao they even painted the toy in Ukraine's flag's colours
In my humble strategic opinion the ukranians need to go all out and bring down as much zigger oil refineries as possible as quick as possible, eventually the ziggers will figure out a workable defense strategy and/or force trump completely against the ukranians
>>65589516Correctballistic missile detection is run through SBIRS and passed directly to Ukraine for timely raid warnings for the civvie population and the US is the only game in town.The US operates launch detection sats because they operate a triad so require the warning time to flush land based strat bombers or ground silosEurope doesn't operate launch detection sats because their nuclear deterrent is entirely second strike based (i.e. SSBNs with orders to launch at preselected targets if they can't get in communication with London or Paris)>>65589528is one dumb gorilla nigger
>>65589601The constitution of Ukraine prohibits elections during wartime which means that Federov’s demands to hold elections actually do amount to high treason
>>65589575>every single one of those democracies also has contingencies that restrict elections during wartimeWe don't have contingencies that restrict complaining about it though. Something you'd know if you'd ever lived in a democracy.
>>65589639Look at all the people who have suggested Ukraine have elections. Trump, Musk, Federov, all Russian cock-suckers. What would be the purpose of elections? Ukraine has a strongly anti-Russian president who will fight until all of Ukraine’s land is restored, the only people who benefit from an election is Russia
>>65589644Except you do, see most of Europe for an example.
>>65589652The Ukrainian people have been polled about this and they don’t want elections
>>65589639on god fr fr no cap all fax no printer
>>65589653>noooooooo! that's fake news!
>>65589331Do you not read Ukrainian news? Zelensky's inner circle was caught making backroom deals for the companies in charge of rebuilding the energy grid last year. Earlier this year he and his friends were again caught selling defense industry contracts for bribes. He also kicked several generals out for not prioritizing optics over lives and was forced to reinstate more than one. Then there is the whole huge mansion built north of Kyiv deal.People need to actually listen to what Ukrainians say because they are now starting to blame Zelensky and his corrupt ways for some of the goings in the war especially his meddling with military command and structure. They might not want elections yet but there is no way they will accept a leader who wasnt a real military leader in the war after him. It will be very interesting to see a true bloodied nationalist like Zalushnyi or Budanov enter politics.
>>65589652Why is only ziggers and zigger stooges pushing for elections? It's because they know they can rig them through bribery and force, or at worst muddy the waters to cause unrest. The ukranians can have their elections as soon as every zigger and zigger stooge is removed from their land or turned into compost/cubes/dog food
>>65589663Okay now you’re just concern-trolling
>>65589668No, they’re fighting a war not to be raped by homosexual Russian orcs
>>65589673>Rigging an election through bribery or force or using time honored russian-judaic tactics to muddy the watersInto the cube you go comrade
>>65589673Who would get to vote in elections? The soldiers would have a harder time voting, while the soft hearted women and cowards who fled into Europe would have no problem voting. It would not be a representative sample
>>65589677If ziggers are so concerned about a democratic ukraine why not pack up all the orcs and go home, thereby ending the war and restarting elections?
>>65589677Democracy is for fags, the Roman Empire had no need of democracy
>>65589601I think that was a D&C attempt to conflate support for Ukraine (TZD) with gun control, and thereby turn some portion of /k/ against Ukraine. >>65589631>linking a 2a mention with "Federov is a traitor"And the mask comes off the concern troll.You ziggers really aren't looking forward to his robo-hohols are you.The sound track of your future is this https://youtu.be/KWPpJH--91w
>>65589687get in ze cube
>>65589684And yet...Romans were fagsCurious!
>>65589684>anon conveniently ignores the majority of emperors being puppets who had to do what the senate wanted when it came to anything important
>>65589692Why are you so opposed to the orcs going home so the country they're invading can have free and constitutionally congruent elections?
>>65589692fuck off zigger. nobody's falling for your retarded argumentsTZD
>>65589687Early voting and mail voting doesn’t work if you’re in a fucking battlefield
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>>65589667Why? I don't think anyone should feel concerned by such an obvious fact. Its not 2022 anymore and Zelensky has had his image stained by scandals. Meanwhile most of Ukraine has been affected by the war, most Ukrainian men have served, been in some form of combat deployment or have had to leave their homes, and most Ukrainians in general now are more familiar with and more comfortable AND trusting of military figures than of civilian ones. It's basically guaranteed Ukraine will be ruled by a long list of veterans and military commanders and very few civilian politicians like Zelensky whenever those elections happen, it's actually very stupid of Russian shills to insist on them because it will only democratically confirm Ukrainians hate the fuck out of Russia.
>>65589701>>anon conveniently ignoresThey probably don't even know that Romans had elections for every fucking thing, a senate, and guaranteed representation all over the place.
>>65589710Ukraine has a long bright future of electing pro-TZD politicians once this war is done and it brings a tear to my weary eyes
>>65589710Except Ukrainian vets aren’t calling for elections and overwhelmingly want to stick with Zelensky
>>65589003this you?
>>65589720Yeah? that's the point. The Ukrainians don't want elections yet (even if they could), but if they DID have them, it'd go horrendously bad for Russia. It's completely idiotic that this is an item of discussion being pushed by anyone and i question what exactly is the logic behind it.
>>65589723why would there be an election when 20% of the country is occupied? Are you retarded?
Personally, I think the funniest outcome would be that Ukraine does have wartime elections, internationally verified as legit, and they end up electing some Mariupol native Azov guy with a verifiable kill count on a platform of "It's not over until we say it's over" in an overwhelming landslideJust imagine the zigger seetheimagine
>>65589710Zelenskyy was the softest option before the war but it doesn't seem so likely now. Would Poroshenko or his puppet be as vengeful as say Federov or another civilian like that huge foreign minister?Obviously a Budanov or Zaluzhny (or an Azov candidate) isn't a fair comparison.
>>65589731They had elections when 10% of the country was occupied. And the occupied parts are the parts with the Russian disapora in them so the electorate would be even more ethnically Ukranian.
>>65589723It's against their constitution, it's literally as shrimple as that. It's not even a discussion point by anyone except ziggers
>>65589245>minimum of 2 and a high possibility of 4 airframes utterly wreckedNice>>65589677They do, you retard. The Ukrainians just don't want to be bombed while at a polling station. Something that the Russians said that they would do
>>6558973471% of Ukrainians when polled opposed holding elections
>>65589728>The Ukrainians don't want elections yet (even if they could), but if they DID have them, it'd go horrendously bad for RussiaThe latter is true but in more ways than you say.There's quite a bit of deadwood, corrupt, and outright traitors in the rada. An election could purge a lot of those. I'd support a system for recall or special elections, one seat at a time. The Rada could use a refresh.
>>65589690Based Cossack Siromaha enjoyer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dGDhKuOSDc
Before this thread drops into bumplimit from the current discussion of "Ukraine needs to ignore its democratic constitution" the actual thread topic was "Russian oil refineries are back on the target list"Really makes you think why the end of the discussion was different to the start :^)
>>65589744Zelensky is already doing pretty good purging the corrupt politicians already, it’s not worth the risk to the civilians to hold elections
>recycled post-Clankening concern trolling about electionsI see that lots of stuff in Russia is getting blown up.
>>65588391If Russia were to collapse into full sectarian violence, would those who could escape end up in freedomland? I don't think Belarus would want them.
>>65589746I like his stuff. I hadn't heard (or seen) that one, thanks!
>>65589764Article 83 of the Constitution of Ukraine — provides that if Parliament’s term expires during martial law, its powers continue until the first session of the newly elected Parliament after martial law ends. Article 108 of the Constitution — provides that the President exercises their powers until the newly elected President takes office. This helps explain why the president remains in office beyond the normal term until a successor is elected and inaugurated.Article 19 of the Law on the Legal Regime of Martial Law — this is the explicit prohibition. It states that during martial law, elections for the President, Parliament, local authorities, and certain other bodies are prohibited.
>>65589764It's also constitutional you dumb zigger
>>65589760>I see that lots of stuff in Russia is getting blown up>>65589751>Russian oil refineriesA GRU drone school was blown up, including officer and student barracks. No casualty data yet.
>>65589767He’s already sacked half a dozen corrupt politicians in high up positions this year alone, Svyrydenko, Fedorov, Mudra, Kamyshin, Kravchenko, etc.He’s doing fine, let’s not over exaggerate the problem, just because he didn’t purge every corrupt official in a day that doesn’t mean he’s not making great progress
>>65589768The relevant prohibition, Article 19, is a regular statute that they can amend whenever they want.
>>65589777>He’s already sacked half a dozen corrupt politiciansThose are officials, not deputies. The latter are elected, not appointed.
>>65589515West is doing that for more than century, both USA and Europe.
>>65589772It's not.You can amend article 19 to allow for Presidential elections. The prohibition that's in the constitution is Article 83. So parliament remains the same.
>>65589701>>65589715Both of you are wrong. Rome had many democratic processes but very few made their way upwards to the emperor by the time emperors were officially a thing(Augustus). In Republican times, Romans had tiered votes based on several definitons of citizenship, There was the Curiate Assembly which included the oldest families and chose high magistrates and other formal but largely ceremonial offices, then you had the Tribune Assembly which was territorial based on all the "tribes" of Rome ie the parts of the city itself and later Italian colonies as a whole and was in charge of choosing lower magistrates like Praetors, Aediles, and Tribunes Then you have the Centuriate assembly which was chosen by wealth and therefor the military draft order, as Republican Romans served in the military role they could afford ie who could buy arms or a horse or nothing at all, and they chose Consuls and Censors. All of these were subject to varying level of shameless electoral tampering and interference all the time as Romans had no concept of buying votes being wrong, in fact, it was institutionalized in the form of Patronage and Clientele networks, literally legal mafia boss things.What changed during the empire is that the transition from a citizen conscription military service system to one of professional soldiering meant that the military became it's own pole of political power and emperors stood on three pillars of legitimacy: The army hailed them, the people cheered them and the senate confirmed them. Emperors often did without the later two but never without the support of the army, therefor they were the ones truly casting the votes and always reserved the right to remove an emperor and pick a new one without asking. There were still civilian elections for civilian offices necessary for the maintenance of the state like magistrates and senators but the Roman Empire was strictly ran as a military junta all the way to the fall of Constantinople.
>>65589777You're confusing the Rada (parliament) with the cabinet (ministers and advisors).Are you certain you're from a democracy?
>>65589779But they’re not going to and there’s no calls for it to be removed. The people DEMOCRATICALLY voted for there to be no elections in Ukraine, this is what they WANT
>>65589788I’m not from a democracy, that is correct, I’m from a republic
>>65589792a democratic republic, you fucking retard, just like practically every other democracy outside constitutional monarchies.
https://tvpworld.com/95937657/report-us-suggests-europe-should-unblock-some-russian-assets
>>65589786Note: The Assembly of the plebs was also a democratic institution that endured from the republic into the empire but they didn't really have elective powers beyond electing the Tribune of the plebs, whose powers were limited to vetoing some decisions in the other assemblies and invoking hearings in some matters. The assembly of the plebs was also not really a fully representative body of the plebeians vs the patricians(the distinction had fully gone away by the high empire), but they collected the interests of certain Collegia, guilds or even private societies.You could approximate them more to a very big Union.
>>65589801zigger Don at it again
>>65589798The US is a republic, only sometimes democratic
>>65589832The US is a representive democracy, stop being a fucking retard.
>>65589841It’s a representative republic
>>65589852What does 'representative' mean? You should be taken out back and shot for wasting oxygen like the retard you are.
Insane to see a zigger psyop actually land. You guys need to come up with better comebacks to this "anti election" shit than just screaming treason.
>>65588817He's really good at sucking dick. Dicksucker caste I believe
>>65589901>just screaming treasonThat was the zigger.I think they're afraid of Federov and want to smear him before his next project.
>>65589997They're permanently buttblasted because he turned TZD into an esport. Complete with balance patches to ensure drone crews get XP even with a mobik kills himself.
>>65589782who funded Russia after Crimea was seized?
