AK General /akg/AKR (Krinkov) Edition>Thread #2103Old thread here >>65526735
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how are we dying guys i mean doing, how are we doing
>>65598174Not great, not terrible. Better than the RAM/GPU market at least.
WTB Polish KBK grenade launcher shut off gas block for milled AK47
VSK-100
>>65598401So it's a Belarusian Vepr? Neat.Too bad we probably can't import them.
>>65598174Do you mean the AK “community” or the board?
>>65599961the ak community in particular
>>65600267I think we have to stop with the doom and gloom. AKs are no longer attractive to poors and imports are relatively limited but people who are in it for love of AKs will continue to be.
>>65600267>>65599961I think we need to start publicly shaming and boycotting these type of boomer faggots.
Does anybody have experience using AIMS74 magazines in an Arsenal SLR104UR? I want steel mags for the STALKER look but my gun doesn’t seem to like the tantal mag I have and I was wondering if this is a known tendency.
AOA's got a bunch of unissued AIMS-74 stuff and I gotta say these are gorgeous. Not payin 160 dollars tho
>>65600972i love posting this bubba listing lol
I want a Meridian 101, but they are fucking retards giving it a 1:7 twist and putting that dumbass shelf safety on it. Plus they need to fix their muzzle devices apparent accuracy causing issue.>inb4 why is 1:7 badMost people shoot 55gr, plus the Soigas were 1:9 so if they wanted it "correct" they fucked up.>SafetySame as the "correct" bit above.
It’s new gun day bros. Just got my Krebs KTR-03V
Are KCI mags really that bad?
>>65601455Yes, don’t do it. >>656012141:7 is flat out better. Fuck off retard
>>65600577For what it's worth I'm poor and I just bought my first ak. I saved for 3 months to get one of the arsenals when they went on sale over the summer. It's an awesome gun and I'm having more fun with it than I've had with my ar's, but that said, I don't see myself getting another one.
>>65600972Wtf. Do people actually just drop 2 grand on a gun without checking to see what it's worth? Or even if it's any good?
>>65601193Kek
We back?
>be me>own AR>never really shoot>want AK>buy parts kit from anon>still needs receiver, barrel, and front trunnion>never put together>decide if society ever collapses, would be nice to have AK over AR cause I never clean my AR, and like idea of minimal maintenance (but like idea of 5.56 being everywhere)>also think would be cool to LARP with can innawoods someday (ears are sensitive)Should I->A) cope with AR>B) build 7.62 AK>C) turn 7.62 parts kit into 5.56 AK>D) just buy 300 blackout upper, and a can, then sell parts kit
First range day with the Krebs VEPR. This thing is sick as hell. It’s always a good time magdumping dirt while old people are trying to sight in for deer season. I’m very surprised that the Pioneer arms US made 5.56 magazines worked so well, if Bulgarian commercial magazines weren’t so cheap then I’d get more of them. >>65601913What kind of parts kit?
>>65601913Sell it and get a WASR or a ZPAP.
>>65601930>What kind of parts kit?It’s a mix of Romanian and Russian. The furniture is Russian, and I think everything else is Romanian.
>>65601930I also have a Bakelite mag as well.
>>65601913>>65602030Sell your AR and the parts kit and buy a Krebs M23 or some other 5.56 AK. If you’re stuck with an AR and want a 5.56 AK then nothing else will do. I used to be in the same boat and find myself much happier after i sold my AR and got the AK I actually wanted.
>>65601630There is a massive issue of mid to subpar companies discontinue their products and these gunboomer dipshits like Ivan Drago at the ak files acting like massive kikes trying to charge $6.5k for a fucking beryl.
>>65601630I would really hope no one buys the uf pioneer 5.56 for that much since the pre revamp models eat firing pins like a lard ass at the all you can eat buffet. Now according to magdump_supreme and KalashmanGA, the revamped version of the 5.56 sporter is not terrible for the low price and they have taken it to shooting matches.
>>65598154Question for anyone with experience with them. Looking at getting a Zastava M90. Anyone got any experience with them?
>>65601913>if you have a lot of moneysell parts kit, buy WBP Jack, WASR or ZPAP, and then buy a 5.56 AK. So you'll have an AR, an AKM or good yugo AK, and a 5.56 AK>if you don't have a lot of moneyD) sell kit and buy 300 upper
>>65601935>>65602054>>65602356Just out of curiosity, how much would it cost roughly to build it?Like I said, everything is there minus the receiver, barrel, and front trunnion. I also have a press. Just need a jack. Probably need a go gauge too.
Does Akg like Vaski
>>65602399checked. All the good parts are on arms of america but >fb radom barrel $130>good receiver $100>good front trunnion $100then ~$250 for labor building it, I may be off on this one
>>65602482That doesn’t sound so bad if I do it myself.Where’s the best place to get the parts?
>>65601455Some are okay enough until they aren't Some are bad Its you're dice anon anonawitz
>>65601455Just get the gunmagwarehouse commercial Bulgarian mags. They’re g2g
Does the M77 use an AK dovetail?
>>65603773No, I believe they use the M21 dovetail same as other Yugo imports.
>>65603773Iirc zastava uses svd style side rails for their rifles
this is pretty cool, east german hunting rifle for the export market, only 120 made
>>65604219Neat. Not $4.5k neat, but still. DDRs version of a Norinco Hunter?Where'd the info on the number of them made come from?
>>65602994read my post again
>>65604844Gotcha. Thanks anon.
>>65604777https://www.progun.de/marketplace/geller_sport_und_jagd_gmbh_herr_achim_john/t749kpnd_veb_gwb_wiesa_speger_mit_zf_carl_zeiss_4x32_nummerngleich_sammlerstueck_-_762x39.html#beschreibungI've read the number both in a twitter post and the item listing, i guess there's official documentation.read the listing description, there's a lot of info on it regarding design and history
>>65598154norinco paratroopers with AK mags, yay or nay?
>>65605781Thanks. According to the Kalashnikov Encyclopaedia, there were 147 made. So I was curious as to where the seller got the info.>apparently I was wrong and it is worth the price tag being possibly the rarest variant, again according to the KE.
>>65605926If it takes AK mags it's no longer a paratrooper, it'd be an SKS-M I believe.So nay.
I love my Vepr so much bros
So anons, let’s just forget about practicality and ammo cost for a seconds.>7.62 or 5.45Which do you find more fun? Why?
>>656070885.45 or 5.56, especially with an AK74 brake. I just like them.
Anons, I want to build my AK parts kit, but it appears to me that I’m going to have a lot of money in tools. Correct me if I’m wrong, but if I have the kit, a drill press, and a hydraulic press (minus the jack), what kinda tools will be involved? Is it just not worth it?
>>65607088i likey the banana mag
>>65607561>rivet jaws for the front trunnion>rivet jig for the trigger guard>rivet jig for the rear trunnion>front trunnion support fixture>ak barrel component install tubes>metric drill bits>punches>headspace gaugesi like building guns for fun so to me it was worth it even when i assumed i'd only ever build one AK
>>65605926It's "yea," not "yay."
>>65598174My health insurance premium went up 50% yesterday so people who makes <120K at my company wouldn't get a premium increase. Is this was socialism feels like Eurobros?
>>65608128Anon, do I have to have jigs? Is there no poor man’s option?
>>65607561A 12-ton press from Hazard Freight is like $150
>>65598154So is KUSA completely kill? I thought I heard someone bought them out a few years ago but haven't heard anything else.
Anyone know where I can get some sick ass furniture for my M70?
>>65609213APS firearms if you want wood.
>>65608142how nice of you to pay for them anon
>>65609213up my bum
>>65609068Does it have to be 12 tons?
why are aks so heavy? just get an ar.
>>65608370some of the rivet jigs overlap in uses depending on who you buy from, but youre going to have to some kind of bucking bar(s) to rivet an ak receiver togetherso unless you want to mill out and harden some jigs yourself stop being a poorfag and buy the stinkin jigs>>65609875iirc 12 tons is the happy medium between actually being able to install the barrel while still having the ability to feel if something is fucking up before you crush your rear sight base
>>65609845The cross between gunfag and footfag was unexpected, but not unwelcome.
>>65609845pshhh obviously reversed video, not impressed
Can anyone recommend a speed reload pouch?
>>65612588That thing is cool as hell. Specs?
While officially designated as the AKS-74U in Russia, Afghan Mujahideen fighters during the Soviet-Afghan War dubbed it the "Krinkov".
scream if you love serbia
>>65614590Serbia is pretty alright. What magazines have you tried with your M90?
>>65614618got those ac unity ones they work well, gunmag warehouse ones are very tight but they do fit, and the zastava mags work fine, tried the circle 10 mags and they are TIGHT but I think will work
>>65614618Used WBP, ((10)), Chinese mags, bakes, plums, and all worked fine
>>65614639I might try some of the AC Unity when my Saiga gets back. The gunmag warehouse ones fit perfectly but magazines for my 74 (EG Bake, Izmash plum, old surplus Circle 10) won’t even insert so I’m scared to try Circle 10 waffles in it. Converted 74 mags work perfectly in my Vepr so I may order some Circle 10s anyway.
>>65614590I bought this for my m90 when I had it, no idea if he still makes them...https://www.akfiles.com/forums/threads/zastava-m77-m90-m91-m76-or-riley-m77b-rak308-custom-5-position-adjustable-gas-regulator.533750/#post-7862608
AK smith fucked my M92 up. Its a title II SBR. I paid him him to drill holes for an underfolder, weld up the rear screw hole from the pic rail and re-blue it. He took it upon himself to scrub off the read manual lawyer markings and carved the fuck out of my receiver. He ghosted me for 3+ months and if he had simply asked, I would not have wanted him to do it because its covered by the underfolder. He said he's gonna rebuild it on a Childers. I said ok, but you owe me some cash or ammo because now instead of a factory gun I have a US made parts kit. Pic rel 1.5mm receiver no more lolThoughts?
Just put an lpvo on my opap, gonna try it out this week and see if I like it. Might head this route and end up replacing my red dots if I can get some fast shooting in. When the reticle is illuminated it seems you can actually still see the horseshoe and dot for fast target shooting even when the eye relief is fucked and can't see through it.
Anons, as much as I’d like to build my parts kit, I just don’t think it’s gonna happen. Thinking about the tools I’d need and the money I’d need to spend is kind of a lot more crap I think I’d care to get into.I really wish I could build it but I just don’t think it’s worth it.
>>65614694This is why I only do shit myself
>>65614868Why would you buy a parts kit without researching the tools and processes required to assemble it?
>>65614868Don't give up you faggotWhat better things do you have to spend money on? Fat titted anime figurines?What better things do you have to spend time on? Fapping and browsing 4chan?
>>65614868>>65615220https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdVd3Ak_wHYC73cSwSck8Wz4Nz8_kFuG8 WatchThis guy did it in his kitchen
Blackbush is finished with my rifle bros>>65614651
>>65614694Post who the smith was so no one else gets fucked over like you did.
>>65615654>Post who the smith was so no one else gets fucked over like you did.M-13, but they shit canned him this summer for being unreliable. So its a non-issue for the AK community, no one will ever use this guy. He's leaving the industry to focus on producing tranny porn.
>>65615832Damn, some people just keep failing upwards.
Wrangelers started getting delivered today, Yugo M72, KP9 have shown issues so far, Tried my Saiga 12 but had some issues with dimensions of the cassette itself
>>65615989Damn, I guess I’ll just keep waiting.
palmswell or dong
>>65615851LmaoHe sat on nearly a dozen of my kits for 2+ years and only built one gun. He was good at small parts and refinishing, I had him do a few trunnion and front end swaps. He’s completely unreliable now.
>>65616370I originally asked inrange to convert my Saiga. He doesn’t do them anymore and recommends M13. I’ve read a lot of sketchy stuff about M13 so I sent it to Blackbush instead. It’s been a little over a month and they called me today saying it’s done. They’ve been pleasant to deal with during the process. Here’s the gun, I’ll post more when it gets here Friday >>65614651>>65615599
>>65616367Depends on my mood/the AK. AMD brake came in.
>>65616516People sleep on Blackbush because everyone wants a big name quality smith. Turns out that using the big names means massive wait times and sometimes shoddy work.
>>65616534That thing looks sick. I always wanted an amd65 but I ended up with a zpap m70 as my first ak. My next goal is to get an amd65 with tupperware blue furniture.
>>65616367I never liked their looks or ergos. Its funny, my first "build" (atlantic barreled action with NOS furniture set, it was like $550 all said and done) was an underfolder with the reverse dong, and I sawed it off flush because i got tired of dealing with it for mag changes. Now people would cry if they heard somebody did that because they're like $150 dollars lol
I desperately need my saiga mount to arrive from Belarus so I can actually use the scope.
>>65615225What is this thing called that put the barrel in with? Is it homemade?Since this is my only AK, I’m looking for the cheapest way to put it together.
>>65615225Forgot pic.
>>65617784How much are these barreled receivers?
>>65616876I wonder how hard it would be to convert a 5.56 Galil ACE to use the Bulgarian Gunmag/AK-74 pattern 5.56 mags
>>65598264There are places that tax unprepared food?
Anons, probably a stupid question, but can a 7.62 parts kit be made into a 5.45 parts kit? Minus the bolt of course.
>>65619175Sorry, I meant can a 7.62 parts kit be made into a 5.45 AK.
>>65619175Going to 5.56 would probably be easer. Galil bolts will work in akm trunnions t m k. If I am wrong though, please someone correct me.
>>65619177AK-103 bolt might be your only choice, t m k those are 74 stem width
>>65619175See: Rifle Dynamics pm63 5.56 builds on arms of america’s website. You’ll need a bolt and an AKM spec barrel. Also a KNS piston unless you want to nuke your rifle’s internals.
>>65619185>Rifle Dynamics pm63 5.56 buildHow are these? Not the anon you were talking to
>>65619182You’re right. I think he’d have to use either a Galil bolt or one of the transgender WBP bolts. An AIMS-74 bolt might work for 5.45 but I’m not sure. >>65619175Are you the anon who isn’t sure about the Romanian kit?
>>65619190Not sure, I don’t have any experience with them. I’d imagine they’re pretty similar to the regular RD 5.56 rifles since I’m pretty sure they use the same core components except for the gas block. I think RD is using a combination of Romanian surplus and new WBP parts for their 5.56 rifles.
>>65619203The WBP part concerns me if it is their trunnion or bolt. More concerned by the bolt since they use their own firing pin.
>>65619209Bad news. If I wanted a 5.56 AK right now and didn’t want to convert a Saiga then I’d wait on the Meridians to come back in stock.
>>65619182>>65619185>>65619198Thank you anons. I appreciate all of you so much.>Are you the anon who isn’t sure about the Romanian kit?Yes. I have since decided that maybe I could just slowly buy the parts 1x1 and maybe someday it will be built. The anon who sold it to me literally demilled it, so some parts like the trigger guard and sight block have minor dremel marks. I thought about replacing those parts, but part of me doesn’t think it’s worth the money to replace. My AK is going to be the coolest AK on this board. Possibly the most scuffed, but let’s hope for the best.
>>65619218Dodged a bullet anon ty, was looking at the one on fudd broker.
>>65619221You’re welcome. If you’re looking at 5.45 you might as well just build it in 7.62, ammo will be cheaper and parts are easier to source. Depending on how scratched up the parts with dremel marks are you might be able to get away with just coating the whole rifle in Rustoleum appliance enamel since I don’t think you’re worried about clone correctness and it’s a mismatched kit. >>65619224No problem, I wish WPB would have just copied the Tantal/Beryl spec for 5.45 and 5.56 rifles, it probably would have saved them some trouble. Have you thought about a Zastava M90?
>>65619256>7.62I do like the fantasy of someday running a suppressor with subs. I like ear pro. Plus if I went with 5.45 I’d have to at least get a bolt, new piston probably, and a different recoil spring.But then again, 5.45 would be crazy.>mismatched kitYeah, honestly I’m like 99% sure the main kit is Romanian. Furniture is Russian, and I have a few Korean mags along with a Bakelite>RustoleumI’m also 90 something % sure the guy spray painted it or something. Some anons told me these AK’s are just like that, but I have my doubts that the Romanian's said>you know, I know we can rub off this finish with our thumbs, but these are good enough
>>65619271I wouldn’t mess with a 5.45 build unless you had a stockpile laying around. Even then I’d probably find a Bulgy 74 before building a pm63 kit in 5.45. Do you have pictures of your kit?
>>65619256>I wish WPB would have just copied the Tantal/Beryl spec for 5.45 and 5.56 riflesLikewise, would have made service and repair much easier.>Have you thought about a Zastava M90?Here is the thing, I already own a Beryl and it annoys me that it is almost fully akm/74 spec with its furniture. The upper handguard is different and feels limiting to me for furntire I wouldn't mind using. I know thee was some guy making Beryl/Tantal handguard adapters, but they have been out of stock everywhere for a year and a half now. Also I am unsure how to feel about the Beryl folding stock since I have a weird obsession with wanting folder AKs.If Zastava brought in pic related with an option to not have a siderail I'd just get that.
>>65618639I dont think atlantic sells them anymore, I bought mine 8ish years ago, they were 450-550 then
>>65618378Everything in that picture can be bought from toth tool
>>65619277I have a picture of the box of parts, but mom not sure what you wanna see.Like I still need a barre, receiver, and front trunnion.I do like cheap ammo..
SAM7R-62PM OrWBP Jack 7.62And why! Looking to purchase a first AK. Parts compatibility options is important, but not a deal breaker if the milled arsenals can still take lots of parts. Which is more enjoyable to shoot and own?
is my bayonet lug cucked?
>>65619771The lug is intact but the distance between the gas block and fsb is abnormally long. What rifle is it?
Anons, when building an AK from a kit, do the flats require anything more than bending, heat treating, spot welding, and painting?
>>65619916it’s a Cugir WS1-63. From what I’ve read, it’s a version made for Western European markets. The bayonet slides on fully, but it feels like it’s a few millimeters short of seating properly. The latch clicks, but detent pin pressure is enough to push the bayonet back off the lug.
>>65619175How many fucking times are you going to ask about your parts kit lmao. This is like the 4th time I've seen you ask about it.
>>65619950riveting? you could argue riveting not part of the receiver making but you do need rivets for the rest of the gun.
how do i clean gun after shooting corrosive ammo?i get conflicting responses from ppl. either they’re throwing parts into water or they just clean the gun normally after shooting.
>>65620176Spray it down with water hose, wipe dry and then oil. The water breaks down the mercury salts.
>>65619766Shop around for an Arsenal SLR-107FR on Gunbroker. The prices for them are coming down and you can get one for 2K now. Milled Arsenals are butt ugly and heavy and the furniture availability is way less than stamped receiver furniture.
>>65620126Based, so there’s no additional holes that needs drilling?
>>65620281danke. do i also clean out gas tube eveyr time i shoot?
>>65620021From what I've read those have 425mm barrels while the standard AK pattern is 415mm.
>>65619766WBP Jack. It's retarded to spend 2k on an AKM from Arsenal. It's retarded to spend 1k too but that's what we have to do now
What is the m193/m855 of 7.62x39?
>>65620955123/124 grain FMJ from TelaAmmo, Belom, Golden Tiger, Brown Bear, Red Army Standard and a shit ton others
Anons, is there a particular flat I need for my Romanian AK?
>>65621041Why not just get a 100% receiver?
Has anyone managed to get ahold of tort tort? Bro is restocking next week and I want to see if he can match a kbk serial before it drops. I think I’m a bit screwed as he’s likely busy working on them.
>>65620288I… live in California>>65620951Starting to lean towards the Jack
>>65618373Bro... It's the tothtool barrel removal/installation tool. If you can't even read the video titles and gather such information I don't think any AK build is going to turn out well in your hands.
How are the parts kits that are built by Atlantic firearms, they have a polish circle 11 on Childers receiver with a FB Radom CHF barrel?I want a polish 762 rifle, don’t want WBP maybe will cheap out and get a pioneer arms. If their guns is a good build I’d rather get it than the other two.
>>65621041Akm flats are generally all the same but there are nearly imperceiveable spot weld idiosyncrasies that ultra giga autists will notice
>>65621302I havent heard bad things
Okay, any recommendations for ammo, I need 762, 545, and .223/556, for bulk I was looking at Atlantic for it, but I believe there is cheaper. I really want to shoot my Ak collection.
>>65620951>AKM from ArsenalIt's retarded to spend over $2k for any AK, but Arsenal does not make AKMs.
>>65621051Would it be less cool if I got a 100%? I think the biggest thing for me is I don’t wanna pay transfer fees to my FFL. Last time it was like 40 bucks.>>65621318Oh ok. Gotcha. Thanks anon.
Anons, in terms of prepping, would it be a stupid idea to go 7.62 AK over 5.56 if I live in the western hemisphere?Hear me out- I’m the Romanian 7.62 scuffed parts kit anon (pic rel). Should I just build the 7.62, or buy the additional parts to convert it?Parts I don’t have->front trunnion>5.56 bolt>receiver>adjustable piston>barrelAnon who sold it to me, if you’re here, no hate. I’m honestly happy with it. Just haven’t gotten around to building it yet. And yes, I still have your sock you sent the Bakelite in.
>>65621521Anon…
>>65621521It doesnt matter what caliber your gun is, as long as you have 500-1000 rounds (realistically even less) stockpiled, you'd never run out in any possible shtf scenario. Doesn't matter if its 5.56x45 or 7.62x39, or 351 WSL or 280 remington. Doesn't fukken matter
>>65621668Incredibly based. Thank you, anon.
>>65620749I measured about 420 mm but i guess it's enough for the bayonet not seating fully
>>65620387Yes, your gas tube will rust on the inside and around where it meets the gas block if you don't. Ask me how I know lol.
>>65621352Ammoseek. Local gun trading sites for surplus Bulgarian/Russian 7N6. I occasionally find tins for 450 - 500 in North Texas.
>>65621521How many fucking times are you going to ask this, schizo? Jesus christ
>>65621521556 AR and 762 AK, just got both in their native chambering. Stop being poor
>>65621521don't be a nigger, the girl is meant for big chinky boolets, not teeny weeny peasthe bigger it is, the more tolerance it can have, the easier it is for you to work on itthat dong DEMANDS 7.62 steel magsgive it a good finish too, she'll like it, though only if you do it properly
>>65616367>palmswell for lifeI already have a dong that serves me just fine. I don't need to hang one from my rifle.
>>65621521Can you space all the parts out? Why does it look like you have a populated barrel?
My gun is finally back from Blackbush bros
>>65616881I will never for the life of me understand why people put risers on AKs. My absolute cowitness EOTech is at the same height as a 2.26 mount on an AR. Do you really want it taller than that?
>>65622370Range day tomorrow.
>>65622656Did you use a stencil? It looks almost like pea dot in a desert camo, it looks good.
Are Atlantic's kit builds any good? I was looking at this.
>>65622764I have one built by them that I bought in 2021ish, I javent that any issues but I've probably only shot 1000 rounds or so out of it. the top handguard was a little wobbly but I wrapped a piece of wire around it to tighten it up
>>65598154Does anyone know a good way to mount a LAM to an AK and hold well enough zero without getting a handguard that mounts and holds zero? Im thinking a barrel mount but my only concern is heat and if they actually hold zero. I have an ak101 with a leader kit that will hold zero fine, but I wanna build an ak102 soon and im realllly wanting to use an ak100 series handguard. Ive thought about the ultimak but the heat concern is even higher cause its the actual gas tube and ive heard they done hold zero well, zero doesnt have to be perfect since LAMs arent an exact science, but it should be close enough.
>>65622769RS Regulate BM2 maybe. I have one but it has a surefire mounted on it, I don’t have a LAM or I’d test it. What kind of 101 do you have?
>>65622769There was a Russian LAM that mounted to the side mount
>>65622771I built it myself, Picrel
>>65622809Very nice. What receiver and front trunnion did you use? Gunmag warehouse mags?
>>65621302Shit I didn't read the thread all the way through. I'm looking at these too, seems like a good deal.
>>65622837front trunnion is from a WBP parts kit that I milled out a slot for the stock latch in so its technically not an ak100 profile but ak74, Rear is a russian trunnion i got years ago and yeah, they run great. Much better and sturdier than the WBP mags. That entire rifle is kinda a mutt build but im not really a purist with my hard use rifles as long as it runs, I got crazy autistic with a few of my surplus kit builds that were "clones". Picrel is not a clone, but my pseudo converted ak104, it looks better now but old pic. I need to convert the rear trunnion.
>>65622855I have a 5.5mm Iglim rear trunnion if you need one. It came with the parts I used to convert my Saiga (>>65622421) but I wound up buying a Russian one.
>>65622870Shoot me an email, Kadow13@protonmail.com. I just expended my "stupid money" from my budget for a minute but my next build where ill need one is a few months out anyway. Does it have all of the parts with it or is it just the trunnion?
>>65622903Just the trunnion. Atlantic sells the parts for it individually
>>65622366I’ll post pics tomorrow. I’m in bed for tonight.>Why does it look like you have a populated barrel?The anon I bought it from tried beating the barrel, so it flattened out the end. So now I have to at some point cut the barrel with my grinder to get the gas block off.Somehow I need to get the sight block off it as well.>>65622174Hopefully my last time. Also, it’s not good to use the Lord’s name like that.>>65622319Thanks for your input anon. You have a point. I’ll build a 7.62 then. Also, it’ll be cheaper and easier since I’d have to replace less parts.
Why is /akg/ so dead compared to /arg/. Anons are posting some pretty cool guns here.
>>65624289Well AKs are harder to build, get parts for, find information about, and ownership is a fraction of AR ownership
>>65598154What are the best 7.62x39 mags available in the US? Are they the ((10)) waffles? They're about $50 a piece so I hope not.
>>65624711I suppose that depends on your definition of "the best" is. I'd take 5 beat to shit Romy steelies over a single ((10)) for roughly the same price, but I wouldn't call them the best.>It's bakelites
>>65624289for every one AK owner there are probably 5 AR owners
>>65624747nope
My humble WASR
>>65624782Slabsides are cool, but heavy.
>>65625081um, just lift more broif you can club the enemy to death with a loaded magazine you're doing it right
>>65624289It used to be more active just a few years ago, it was most active during pandemic and post-pandemic years. Oldfags are still here, we just lurk now.
>>65624711>Are they the ((10)) waffles?Yes.>They're about $50 a piece so I hope not.Just don't be poor.
>>65598154Am I the only one who sees this?How tf did this faggot survive in Afghanistan in the 80s?
>>65625774Maybe he spoke the language fluently. That would have helped.
>>65624289Because AK's are collector pieces at this point.
How and what do you put on mini wbp so it accepts regular ak stocks?
>>65624289There is nothing to talk about. Ammo costs are through the roof, so no range reports. Imports, nothing really new and honestly just more leaving the US market. Then as other anons have pointed out AKs are just more expensive than an AR. Hell one of the best options in the AK sphere atm is the M90, and those new are like $1300 just for the rifle. No upgrades, no mags, nothing else. What sort of AR package can you put together for $1300 that is the complete deal? Parts, mags, sling, ammo? Quite a few.
>>65626058Fucked up, isn’t it.
Hey anons, Romanian parts kit anon here. I need a little help.So recently, I bought the bolt cutters for the rivets. I’ve been looking on AK builder for a set of rivets. I have no idea what said I need for my kit. Also, I’ve been on been looking on Childers guns, and Recreator, and I’m a little confused about all the different receivers.Then lastly, I can’t seem to find a Romanian front trunnion anywhere. Like one place had one for $150, but idk if there are better options. Oh and do I need a bullet guide too?Guys I’m so sorry for asking so many questions. I just need a lot of help. I have no idea what I’m looking for.
>>65626260what exactly is your parts kit? normally they come with a trunion. if it didnt come with one then you are probably missing other shit. what exactly do you have? once we know that then we can say what you are missing.
>>65624711Bulgarian steel reinforced smooth mags from GunMagWarehouse, they're 90% of the Circle 10 function for a third or less of the cost.
Whats the best way to get a 74u or a 74u clone at this point? i missed the boat by years
>>65626272So the anon I bought it from built it then demilled it to send to me. He told me that he wasn’t going to send the front trunnion because he thought it was considered part of the receiver or something. Idk. Didn’t make sense to me.As far as I know it’s Romanian with Russian furniture.Parts I need->barrel>front trunnion>receiver>rivets (not all are there)>go gauge (I have a no go)>not sure if I have a bullet guide eitherEverything else is there from what I can tell. Post rel is my kit >>65621521 . I can space everything else out tonight or post closer pics if needed.
>>656180715.45 steelies look really nice>>65626305Buy an slr104ur
>>65626348Been looking at those. Is $3000 a fair price? It seems extortionate
>>65626356That's a bit high but they also haven't been imported for a long time. 2000-2500 would be better. You might be able to get an unchopped one for a little cheaper
>>65626339bro you have a trunion its right there. unless theres some random damage from how they cut it that makes it unusable
>>65626469ah wait nevermind i was wrong
>>65626469>>65626485Yeah, that’s the sight block.
>>65626339Both you and the dude who sold you the kit are retarded.
>>65626273They’re also the closest thing to a “standard” 5.56 AK magazine. >>65626272I believe he has most of an md63 kit lol>>65626339Anon, I’d seriously consider just sending this thing to a builder. No offense but you don’t seem like the kind of person to build multiple kits so I wouldn’t buy all the equipment. >>65626348Is your AKS-74 a SLR-104?
>>65626867Anon, I hear you; but 2 things.1- I really do believe I could do it, and want to build it myself.2- I already bought a couple of tools, and I don’t even know how to/ how much a builder would charge.Like I’m 99% sure I’d have to send it off by mail. Money. Then pay the builder. Money. Then get my local FFL to transfer it. Money.That’s a lot of money. I’d rather take my chances doing the hardest part myself, and hammering in the barrel by hand. Free.
>>65626912Roughly what geographical location are you in? You might have a builder close to you. Also, the only FFL transfer you should have to do is when you get your reciever. The builder will probably just mail it back to you directly since it’s already your gun. Also most builders are open about what they charge on their site and will give you a quote before they start work. Blackbush, Pod, and AK Andy all have prices listed.
>>65626922I basically live close to the border of Florida and Georgia.>the only FFL transfer you should have to do is when you get your reciever. The builder will probably just mail it back to you directly since it’s already your gun.Ok, see that’s cool. I didn’t know that’s how that worked.
>>65626348Im on the hunt for a Romanian steel 40 rounder. I wonder if I would be better off catching a flight to the Balkans and trying my luck.
>>65626986I don’t know anyone close to you, I’m on the other side of Georgia. C&W is in Miami and there’s a guy everyone on the Outdoor Trader recommends in Cartersville, GA but those are both pretty far from you. I’d encourage you to ship it to one of the builders I mentioned earlier, they do a really good job. Also, your furniture is Romanian unless there’s different furniture in the like in your box.
On the off chance anyone here 1) lives in NC and 2) isn't a serial killer, would they be willing to meet in person to buy ammo off me? Have a good bit of 7.62 I want to get rid of since I sold my AK a while ago. The guy who I sold it do never wanted any and I don't know anyone else with gun in 7.62. Don't want to deal with selling online. Gonna try and find good local forums too...
>>65627020Bring some FDLs and single ribs back from the Balkans, if you go.Keep your eyes peeled for the elusive Romanian 5.45 bakelite too.
>>65627094I would if you could help me build my AK.>>65627078>your furniture is RomanianYou’re kidding? Wow.. I’ll try to buy a receiver and look into those other guys if I deem it too hard. Thanks anon.
>>65627312Take a picture of the furniture by itself so we can identify it better.
>>65627312Also there’s already a bag of the correct rivets in the box.
>>65627315>>65627317I feel kinda retarded admitting this, but there were more bags in there than I remembered. The “AKM rivet set” is open and only has a couple in it, but I think maybe the clear baggy has everything I need? Idk.
>>65627398Anon… that furniture is as Romanian as it gets. Also, you have all of your rivets. Can you take a picture of the rest of the parts laid out in the same way so we can get you on the right track?
>>65627398Also, I’ve compiled a list of barrels and front trunnions that will work with your gunBarrelshttps://armsofamerica.com/fb-chrome-lined-hammer-forged--sporter--barrel-16-/https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1198098687https://www.apexgunparts.com/hungarian-akm-take-off-barrel-16-25-stripped-7-62x39-good.htmlTrunnionshttps://www.apexgunparts.com/romanian-ak-front-trunnion-nw.htmlhttps://www.apexgunparts.com/hungarian-ak63d-front-trunnion-partially-b-blasted-ex.htmlhttps://www.apexgunparts.com/polish-akml-front-trunnion-used-vg.html
>>65624289being an akfag is just grim right now tbqh with you. I have basically consigned all my AKs to range toy status and caved and got myself a quality AR15 as my shtf gun. Nothing beats AK vibes though and honestly if you told me I could only have one, I'd probably pick an ak.I havent had a chance to shoot my M90 yet, I will give a range report for you guys after I go, wondering if I can just shoot it on setting 1 and get away with it from the start? My gas tube lever is SUPER fucking tight on it to the point I need a tool to move it, so just set it to 1 after the first clean
>>65627398>>65627444And receivers. If you go with Childers then the options in my screenshot are correct. We’ve provided you with a list of parts you’ll need and a list of good builders, you should have all the info you need. https://www.childersguns.com/CG3-US-AKM-47-Receiverhttps://recreatormfg.com/product/romanian-forty-7-receiver-pm-md63-7-62x39/
>>65626305There's a Bulgarian 5.56 Krink for sale near me with Dead Air Wolverine no Form 4 (Texas) for $2500. It's a crazy deal.
Why did they do this? Why make the optic sit offset like this.
>>65627553To have the irons be usable. I believe Eastern European doctrine around iron sights and optics is different than western doctrine.
>>65627444>>65627452Anon.. you are the absolute best. You have no idea how much I appreciate you. We should 100% watch anime sometime when I build AK. Also nice trips.>>65627408>Romanian stockWow.. oh well then. At least I have all the rivets, that’s good.>more picsAbsolutely. Here you go.notes>rear trunnion still needs pins pressed out>if you look closely, anon tack welded the front sight >gas and sight blocks are still on the barrel (I gotta cut the barrel cause he tried hammering it out I guess)>trigger assembly is in long clear package>no go gauge 2 pins and a spring are in the other packet>I still have anon’s sock
>>65627553wot scope?
>>65627569
>>65627568This is the model kit you havehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_Mitralier%C4%83_model_1963/1965Since other anon did some weird shit to the sight block here is a cheap replacement https://rifledynamics.com/surplus-romanian-akm-front-sight-tower-gas-block-set-45-gas-port/In your box it looks like you have a gas tube with what’s called a cheese grater upper handguard on it? Is that correct? Also, if you’re going to use a builder I’d let them finish demilling the parts so you don’t accidentally mess any of them up. The ribbed dust cover on the left is the correct one for your kit, the smooth one is probably from a Saiga or Sam 7. You may be able to sell the spare furniture in the kit that you don’t need in /bst/ to recoup some money.
>>65627588>cheese grater upper handguardYes, that is correct.I really appreciate the link to the sight as well! Thank you.>bstNoted. Thank you.
>>65627568What's going on with that barrel? Is the RSB pressed too far onto the chamber side barrel journal or is the chamber cut off (and that's why the trunnion is missing)? What's that chunk between the RSB and handguard retainer? Your gas block pin holes look way oversized. How much did this faggot charge you for the kit? If you insist on doing the headspacing yourself for your first build, do yourself a favor and just buy a virgin trunnion https://armsofamerica.com/wbp-front-trunnion-762/This isn't a dig at you specifically, but you're going to fuck up your barrel pin. Skip the heartache and buy a new trunnion so you can drill a new hole. Make sure you fit your barrel to the barrel components. Take strips of emory cloth and evenly sand down all of your journals to around 2 thou. If your drill press has enough height you can nigger rig a lathe by putting your muzzle in chuck so you don't make your journals out of round.Your trunnion and bolt won't match, you should lap your bolt to ensure you have even engagement. Whittle yourself something like this out of a stick and use water based lapping compound. Check the lug faces with a sharpie until you have even engagement on both lugs.https://recreatormfg.com/product/bolt-lapping-tool-7-62/For your first build, especially this one, just pay AOA or AK Builder to headspace and populate your barrel. You'll send it post bolt lapping. If you opt to send it off, skip the journal sizing step, they'll do it themselves. AKB is a little more expensive, but you can tell them to hold your barrel so you save on shipping.https://armsofamerica.com/akm-headspacing-service-customer-supplied-kit/https://ak-builder.com/index1.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30163IMO you should cut your losses on this kit and either buy another one that's not fucked up or send it to a builder. It's going to cost you more in the long run because you're trying to be cheap.
>>65627614I really hope he sends it to a builder. I’d like to know what the anon who sold the kit to him told him to convince him to buy it.
>>65627621You guys are scaring me.
>>65627580Have that one for a while? I've been looking into copies lately since exports have dried up.
>>65627614>how much for the kit?I think it was like $350 or $400 back when I bought it. He let me know it was kind of rough.
>>65627655We just don’t want you to get over your head. While you likely have the mechanical skill to build the kit there are a lot of little intricacies that could result in you doing something wrong without knowing. Order your parts and shoot Pod or Blackbush an email for a quote, they’ll set you straight. Don’t blow them up with a million questions like you do with us or they’ll probably ignore you.
>>65627655This isn't a good kit to learn on. Everything about it is subtly fucked up. From your previous posts it came across like you're trying to do this on a budget which further complicates this. AK building isn't particularly hard if you have the right tools, but tooling up is expensive. If you don't have someone tard wrangling you and you have a decently equipped shop you're going to pay for your experience with ruined parts. I've been in your shoes before which is why I'm being harsh. Building parts kits is incredibly rewarding, but it hasn't been a budget option since Dubya was in office.What do you actually want to get out of this exercise? Do you just want an economic path to a gun that *you* built? Consider this kit:https://www.apexgunparts.com/hungarian-ak-63f-fixed-stock-parts-kit-w-populated-barrel-assembly-16-25-matching-7-62x39-good.htmlIt's matching and the barrel is populated/headspaced. So knock $175 for headspacing and $150 for the barrel itself and $25 for shipping/taxes off the price. It has a trunnion, a non fucked up gasblock and the RSB isn't fucked up like yours potentially is. That's another $150+ off the price. So net $100 more versus unfucking your kit you'll have a matching kit with a military barrel. It also reduces the domain of issues you have to solve at the same time. You will just need to:1) learn how to press a barrel in and out without galling it too much2) learn how to demill your parts3) learn how to rivet4) learn how to refinishThese are fundamental skills and a better set of problems to deal with before tackling how to populate a virgin barrel, match a bolt to a new trunnion and troubleshoot a bunch of potentially pre-ruined parts. Fewer tools to buy and fewer things for you to mess up.It's 2026 and we have original barrel kits again, take advantage of that. >>65627671Ehh, you didn't get raped, he just didn't give you a buddy deal and sold you his problem.
>>65627699>I've been in your shoes before which is why I'm being harsh.Thanks Brandon. I really appreciate it. You guys have been incredibly supportive and kind. Honestly, more so than arg ever has. Seriously, God bless you, man. I appreciate the additional information as well.My goal was basically “building an AK? Sounds like fun. Gain skills, prove to myself I can do it.”But being a race car driver is one thing. Having the money to build a race car is something else.>>65627688Again, I really appreciate you guys looking out for me and actually caring. That means a lot to me.>Pod or Blackbush an email for a quoteI will do that. Thank you again, friend.
>>65627665I bought it back in 2019 I so. I had another in the grey enamel with the 1.8m rangefinder (this one is a 1.7) but I begrudgingly sold it.
You know what. If anybody wants to buy it off me, how much would you give me? >>65627568I’ll even throw in a pair of bolt cutters.
>>65628450Dang it anon. Shoot me an email if you’re interested in trading anything for that cheese grater
>>65628502Awesome, I emailed you.
>>65628574My bad, I left a t out of my email. It should work now
>>65628631I was just about to respond. I sent another email.
Anyone got one of these?https://zastavaarmsusa.com/product/zpap-ak-underfording-stock-kit-no-gunsmithing-required/
>>65626867>Is your AKS-74 a SLR-104?Sorry for the late reply but yeah it's a 104fr. Are you the anon that recently had their saiga converted? Looks good
>>65629168That’s me, I appreciate it. The Saiga is now my favorite firearm that I own. I just fitted an EG bake to it. I’m also attempting to trade the anon with the absolutely raped Romanian kit for it. How many furniture sets do you have for your SLR?
>>65629184>I just fitted an EG bake to itHow painless is the process on converting 5.45 mags to 556?>How many furniture sets do you have for your SLR?I have three furniture sets for it now: the black poly it originally came with, a plum set that I used for a while, and a wood set that I recently picked up for the 70s aesthetic. Funnily enough I think I prefer the black polymer that came with it the most of the three.
>>65629301>How painless is the process on converting 5.45 mags to 556?Aside from feeling like I’m destroying a bake it’s pretty painless. For something that already has an AK-74 spec magwell and trunnion like an SLR-106 or a Beryl you just need to put a Pod Arms or whatever brand you choose conversion follower. For Saigas it’s a little more complicated. 223 Saigas use AK-103 spec trunnions instead of AK-74 trunnions, the magwell is also cut wider for AKM spec magazines. The 103 spec trunnion’s locking lugs protrude further down into the receiver than 74 spec lugs would (circled in red, 74 on the left, converted 223 Saiga on the right). This prevents 74 spec magazines from being able to be inserted all the way. Many people choose to modify the front trunnion and have the lugs milled down, I opted to leave the lugs alone and file down the front part of the magazine instead. >Funnily enough I think I prefer the black polymer that came with it the most of the three.Back when I was in high school I used to just stare at them on the K-Var website and dream about owning one. I graduated in 2015, possibly the worst period to be an AK fanboy. By the time I had a job that would let me be able to afford one Arsenal had discontinued them and Veprs and Saigas got import banned.
>>65629432>>65629301I also had to file the bottom of the rear lug on the magazine to get it to lock in. The right magazine is converted, the left isn’t.
>>65629432>possibly the worst period to be an AK fanboy'89 bans sucked pretty bad. So did the 2004 AWB.The AK market adapts, although it's never the same. I'm surprised there's not a lot more FOMO fear mongering, but I guess the AK guys are just used to it. >Buy what you can buy, when you can buy it because you'll probably never see it again
>>65629464My favorites are specifically AK-100 series rifles and stamped 74s. All of the bans suck 2014-2017 was the worst for me personally.
>>65628922looks like a diaper
>>65629432>>65629452Ahh I see. That's pretty cool if I ever get into a 5.56 ak I will definitely do that to a few mags>Many people choose to modify the front trunnion and have the lugs milled down, I opted to leave the lugs alone and file down the front part of the magazine insteadsmart fella. I wouldn't want to mess with the trunnion either>Back when I was in high school I used to just stare at them on the K-Var website and dream about owning onekek same except polytech legends on gunbroker
>>65629603If you get anything other than a Saiga or Zastava you should be able to use unmodified AK-74 magazines with just a follower swap
Anyone ever cut a window in a magazine?
A tip to those wanting to convert a 74 mag to 5.56: The Bulgarian commercial mag followers, spring and even the base/button fit in 74 mag bodies just fine. I like this method since I don't own a printer and also didn't want to give the Pod Arms fag money. I converted 3 East German and one Russian bakelite mag with them so far. I loaded one mag up and they loaded in fine. I haven't gotten to do a range visit yet, but I cycled all of the rounds out of a loaded mag by working the bolt as fast as I could and they all fed and ejected fine. Going to get a 45 round mag to take its internals for the Molot bakelite RPK mag I have as well.
>>65630586Didn't work on my Bulgarian Krink. The cartridge doesn't sit high enough or straight enough not to jam it up at an angle into the top of the chamber. Glad it works for you though.
The anon with the absolutely raped Romanian kit traded it to me for some items he could actually use. I’m going to use the cheese grater and ribbed dust cover for a Metro: Last light clone and what I can salvage from the rest will wind up getting built into a 14.5” combo block build with an ultimak.
>>65630843Mission accomplished
>>65622164oof. thanks for the tip
>>65630843>>65630976Also, if anyone wants the bakelite pieces I cut out then let me know. You can probably make guitar picks or something out of the.
>>65629464I wish I had red nods.
Looks like these retards have a misidentified SGL-12 for sale. If none of you anons want it I’m going to buy it and throw it up on gunbroker tomorrow. https://www.jwfirearms.com/product-page/used-izhmash-saiga-12-12ga-no-box
WBP Jack or Arsenal SAM7R?Buyers guide in OP says that “minor magazine wells conversion may be required”What does that mean?
>>65631521WBP. The milled gun is way more heavy for zero gain. > Buyers guide in OP says that “minor magazine wells conversion may be required”It won’t.
>>65631523Do the features of the 100 series jack (i am assuming theyre ak74 redesign features) make a lick of difference to the standard AKM pattern?
>>65631530No, they just make the gun look dumb. I would just get the base one and not mess with the “”””100”””” series features that WBP does.
>>65628922Yes but it's not mounted on an ak. What do you want to know?
>>65631864Why isn't it mounted on an AK?
>>65631523>The milled gun is way more heavy for zero gain.The benefit of milled guns is that there's no rivets so there's less for the slavic Homer Simpsons working at the AK factory to fuck up.
What's the best muzzle device for a m14x1 lh threaded barrel when my rifle barrel does not have a detent pin?
Besides Grenade launchers are there any other uses for the accessory lug? Anyone have pictures?
>>65631903I'm working on a "toz-106 we have at home" and made a wood stock for a bolt action shotgun that I put it on. The whole project is pointless but fun.
>>65631534Noted, thank you king
>>65630843>>65630976hell yeah
>>65632174It holds your cleaning rod
There's always debates on what barrel lengths are best for ARs, what about AKs?
How does AKG feel about 5.56 AK’s? Do they feel the same as shooting 5.45? Is 5.56 arguably better?I either want to get an a1 upper for my AR or someday snag a 5.56 AK. Ballistically though I’m not sure if 5.45 is better out of a shorter barrel. I really like 5.56 out of a long barrel. Just never have been big on AR’s quite honestly.
>>65632473Only get NATO approved 5.56 AKsSuch as the FB Radom BerylEnjoy any AK you can get, I fully expect bans to take place in the next 6 years
>>65632486Idk anon. They’ve been saying that for years.
>>65632525Charlie Kirk was only the beginning. I'll tell you that much.Belom still the best 7.62x39 in brass casings?
Shit I want to order the WBP Jack but need to update my driver’s loicense address
>>65632486>Only get NATO approved 5.56 AKsSuch as the FB Radom BerylThat’s literally the only NATO AK. Stop giving retarded opinions.>bans in the next 6 yearsFear mongering doomer retard. >>65632473 #I love them, but you have to do a lot of research before choosing one. Performance is near equal between the two calibers with 5.56 being slightly better. The Zastava M90 is good.>>65632534> Charlie Kirk was only the beginningThe beginning of a better world without that piece of shit lol
>>65632727Bulgarian / Arsenal is also NATO approved! :^)
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>>65632736>creating a new thread at 305 postsWhy?
>>65632772Because he likes the taste of dick.
Can M64 kits be built with an M70 trunnion and receiver?
>>65633512You’d need an M70 barrel too.
>>65633516I mean obviously, the kit I was looking at has a cut barrel anyhow
>>65632174accessories
>>65632262You only need one to hold it in place the other end get place in the handguard..
