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>Ukraine has carried out the world’s first medical evacuation of a human via a drone from the battlefield the 30th mechanised brigade of Ukraine managed to save their injured comrade from a minefield.
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Actually looks fairly comfy, I've had far worse helicopter trips and one crash/very hard landing in the military
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It would be even better if it were possible to recover wounded soldiers who are unable to put on a harness or hold onto a handrail themselves.
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>>65598211
Why are the russian such a good sport?? They should shoot it down without any second tought!
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>>65598211
Implessive. Too bad russia is going to bomb the hospital he will be recovered in with the cruise missiles they will buy with all the money from the sanctions trump had lifted lol
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>>65598228
Goodwill gesture , hopefully jewlensky will surrender sooner than latter and spare his people from this bloodsheed ...
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>>65598211
>world’s first medical evacuation of a human via a drone
But they have been doing that for ages?

>it's a flying drone
Oh. Neat.
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bloody terrifying, but better than being bloody terrified and wounded in a trench and dying from blood loss.
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>>65598228
>They should shoot it down without any second tought!
The drone is shielded by russian incompetence and the new RU-5UCK-D1CK module deflects incomming drones
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>>65598211
>>65598228
And at the same time russians are rumored to have started to use FPV drones to attack their own attack squads if they stop to advance on ukranian positions.
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>>65598211
They need to replace the strap with a bench the wounded just need to drag themselves onto but solid proof of concept.
>inb4 some poor bastard that took shapnel to the guts gets lifted while his intestines trail behind
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>>65598211
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the US used unmanned boats to rescue downed chopper pilots in iran
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>>65598330
In agreement. I am John Waffle of Carolina Panther Oblast, ukraine need to stop attacking oil. Diesel price insane. Nobel Peacemaker Trump must stop the madness
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>>65598330
Yet we have video proof of zigger xylophone, zigger basement bondage and zigger deathpits. At this point being absurdly and unnecessary evil makes it more believeable.
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>>65598330
please be quiet
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>>65598282
Not surprising at the least. They used also mortars and artillery to attack anybody attempting to surrender. Kherson also is under attack from the human safari where random grannies and kids are used to train fpv drone pilots
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>>65598330
We are talking about a military that relys on tactical dildos to "improve" troop moral. That statement woundn't be far fetched
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>>65598211
Literal warcrime.
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>>65598341
At what point do they start fragging officers?
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>>65598359
Thursday
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>>65598359
>expecting pozzians to display bravery or initiative
Exceptions only prove the rule.
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>>65598359
>russian serf standing up against his master
lol
lmao
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>>65598359
They are not given guns until anyone worth fragging is far away from them for this exact reason.
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>>65598359
>implying
Russians are a slave race, they've been intentionally bred over multiple generations to be pondscum with little spine when it comes to their superiors.
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>>65598211
>Ukraine conducting innovations in casualty mitigation and remediation
>Russia conducting innovations in casualty exacerbation and maximization
Trees and underbrush haven't even thinned out fully yet, you know. Their insistence on using spring/summer-style DRGs into the fall season is costly. If they run it into winter we may actually see the legendary 3,000+ count.
>>65598282
They've been doing that since 2023, at least sporadically. If that's become explicit doctrine I guess that would be new.
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>>65598409
>+2100 personnel
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>>65598365
an actual genuine hero
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>>65598330
Think about how immoral the average russian zigger soldier is and now wonder how much worse it has to be with the barriertroops under chechen and GRU/FSB control. If anything those are happy they can do it this way and don't have to poke out their heads close to or at the front.

I doubt it is the official inofficial new stratetgy from higher up, it is just what they do at the lower rank levels.
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>>65598225
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>>65598365
What happened to him? Dead or still in prison?
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>>65598443
Raped to death for treason.
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>>65598441
We're not supposed to talk about the mobik groper
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>>65598211
I've read abour a version with a attached sakopharg. Has someone a picrel or vidrel?
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>>65598454
That's the mobik graber though, the mobik groper is usually a fellow mobik.
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>>65598330
>the army that has placed mines behind their penal legion and uses barrier troops would never use FPV drones for the same purpose
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>>65598327
Came here to post this
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>>65598414
It's a distinct uptick but it's not that crazy, it's been hovering around 1900+ for months and slowly crept up the last week or two.
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>>65598480
>I've read abour a version with a attached sakopharg. Has someone a picrel or vidrel?
Sarcophagus.
Yes but that's a commercial product developed by a Ukrainian company.
This heavy lift drone is just field-improvised with a winch, an extra camera, and some sort of stabiliser mechanism.
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>>65598409
>2100 personnel
>no tanks
>4 armored vehicles
This is a weird chart.
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>>65598340
>zigger xylophone
the fucking what now
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>>65598731
There have been a steady drip feed of tanks for months but then last week there was an article about a storage site that suddenly had a bunch of tanks back in it.
Maybe somebody decided to stop feeding shelter tanks to Ukrainian drones because their army was crying.

>>65598733
You've seen the variety of fates of assault-phobic mobiks, right?
>taped to things with clear wrap
>suspended from things
>beaten with things

Now combine all those things and inflict them on a row of mobiks by an angry sergeant.
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>>65598731
The russians are literaly pulling armor from the frontline to the rear and into storages, since their battlefield utility is very low at this stage. Not that "armor is obsolete", just that C-UAS technology is not mature enough for maneuver to return.

Ukraine is a similar situation, but perhaps has a bit more success with utilizing armor (see Vivaldi).
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>>65598733
hang a bunch of ziggers that refuse to sturm Z into their graves by their hands.
then play them with a bat or other beating tool.
also S3 out now, we eating good cat cat fans
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>>65598744
>>65598751
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>>65598745
>Ukraine is a similar situation
They are at least trying to only deploy them with heavy EW cover and drone support.
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>>65598232
>Tomahawks blowing up Ukrainian Hospitals and nursery schools
Ughhh…based
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>>65598330
Bro they kill children daily. Not hard to think that’s a possibility
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>>65598744
I mean, last night some I saw some zigger posting an ukrainian zamovar and asking what ukrainians get out of this war, and the funny thing is there is this peruvian faggot who tells him if someone did that to a friend he and his people would hunt down the ones responsible and make them suffer and holy shit even a thirdie can figure out why this sort of gloating or posting about you torturing your own soldiers will make most normal human beings fight to the death to not end up under the heel of Russia.
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Why does this seem to be generating so much zigger seethe?
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>>65598794
They waste 2 to 10 mobiks to kill or injure a single Ukrainian. Their logic in this war has always been "they are smaller and we have more people so even if we incur disgusting losses our victory is still guaranteed sooner than later". The fact that CASEVAC is so difficult has been the main factor in them managing to strain Ukrainian manpower and gain ground. Anything that makes it easier for Ukrainians to regenerate that manpower is a terrible reversal, and Ukrainians showing that the lives of their men matter more than Russian lives do is also humilliating.
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>>65598211
>three months later
>Russia copies the tactic
>they do it in reverse
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Drone evac makes a lot of sense because you can prestage these evac drones at the company or battalion hq. Then you activate them to grab wounded and send them to your medical facilities in the rear.

Unlike a helicopter, you can have several of these for every unit and they can have precharged batteries and sit in storage until needed.

Man-drones also have value as an air assault transport to rapidly relocate healthy troops.
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>>65598313
>inb4 some guy who was probably going to die even with treatment
Intestines on the outside is treatable with good survival rate, however your spaghetti-man is in worse shape.

Obviously a person will survive better if their squad provides initial treatment, and your example of wrapping the guy in an elephant lifting tarp and hooking that to the drone is better than sitting them in a swingset.
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>>65598225
One step at a time. What you're suggesting would require a change to the soldiers uniform/gear. It's doable, but there's questions of practicality to consider first. Soldiers have been experimenting with webbing in various forms for decades, but if it's not functional/comfortable, they'll just leave it behind.
Then there's also the options of humanoid drones coming in on full size choppers to provide such an airlift, and at that point a regular soldier is a far better option
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>>65598282
>>65598409
They've had that 2nd squad in order to force conscripts to go forward since at least the first world war. Modernization is hardly a surprise.
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>>65598870
Rapid insertions could become a use case, though it sounds quite risky. Though what if you use it to quickly bring in a UGV for support, then you risk no person on the transport. The trend has been constantly to risk less people and use drones instead.
We certainly haven't seen the end of what unmanned systems will be used for.

>>65598861
It angers Russians when their math of having 4-5 times more people break by having much more than that casualties.
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>>65598888
I think Russia can really optimize this by just shooting their mobiks on the bus stop from their village

really exciting to see where they take this
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>>65598861
I think it is far simplier than that, the eternal wellspring of zigger butthurt: They have what we dont have.
That they couldn't make one before just to shove down the propaganda outlet line for all ziggers and thirdies until its memoryholed only makes it worse for them. There is no good cope around it that normally would shield them from reality.
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>>65598867
Using drones to bring cripples to the frontline?
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>>65598867
Russian air assault drones will be hilarious because they're going to be a preprogramed turkey shoot where they're flown too high and too far along a defended and detected route.

Air assault via drones can be useful, but it can also go very wrong.
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>>65598327
>>65598211
If it throws you into a wall of spikes, we'd know it's Russian made.
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>>65598751
>>65598752
I found where I uploaded it originally.
https://files.catbox.moe/3eoloa.mp4
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>>65598752
>>65599221
>>65598751
You'll want the sound but here's the preview.

>>65598783
>and the funny thing is there is this peruvian faggot who tells him
Latinos are an honour based culture. They get both revenge and chivalry.
The cartels do their fucked up shit because it's horrifying to people, not because they're indifferent to it.
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>>65598870
>Unlike a helicopter, you can have several of these for every unit and they can have precharged batteries and sit in storage until needed.
They're pretty expensive so I don't think they're going to be just lying around.
Also, they'll become a priority target for the enemy very quickly, so you really need to move fast with them.
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>>65599221
Why would they record this AND post it publicly
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>>65598883
Military tops should integrate a strap that clips into the same thing in the pants, so that you have a harness on at all times.
Plus, uniforms look better with straps and buckles on them.
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>>65599229
>Why would they record this AND post it publicly
One of the mysteries of the Russian soul.

The first might be to shame the mobiks in question, or to prove to their superiors that they're sufficiently motivating the mobiks to advance. Or explaining why an advance failed and who was punished for it.

Personally I think it's to show the other units what happens if they don't die as they're told.
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>>65598211
>world’s first medical evacuation of a human via a drone from the battlefield
The first was over a year ago, doofus.

>>65598282
>at the same time russians are rumored to have started to use FPV drones to attack their own attack squads if they stop to advance on ukranian positions.
Rumored? They published videos of it on telegram years ago. Also,
>if they stop to advance
actual Eastern Europeasant detected


>>65598744
>Now combine all those things and inflict them on a row of mobiks by an angry sergeant
Is he actually angry or has he just been Russian for so long that gratuitous abuse of his own men became second nature? Do you think he really knows or cares why he is beating them?
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Anyone got the gif from Red Alert 2 where conscripts are being produced from the barracks and get funneled right at the pillbox?
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>>65599226
>Also, they'll become a priority target for the enemy very quickly, so you really need to move fast with them.

Properly marked as a medical vehicle, targeting them intentionally would be a genuine, no meme war crime though I'm sure a bunch would still get destroyed in transit because you can't tell a regular drone and medical drone apart from a radar signature.
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>>65599249
We're not allowed to post it anymore since it's seen as leaking the tactics of Ruzzian high command.
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>>65599249
not quite the same but I have this, for what it's worth
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>>65599242
> Do you think he really knows or cares why he is beating them?
This is video evidence that the Army’s failure is not his. After all, he is clearly intolerant of the failures of the men under his command. What’s this you say about creating an environment of victory and giving people the tools they need to succeed? Bourgeoisie nonsense. Stalwart New Russian Men succeed through emulation of the sainted ancestors who won the Great Patriotic War despite the vileness of the hated Nazis and the perfidity of the Anglo-American allies holding the USSR back. What is necessary are spines of steel, acceptance of suffering, and willingness to march through your comrade’s viscera to bayonet the fascist in his black heart.

Clearly failure to seize victory is a political failure caused by decadent and slovenly western ways, which he will beat out of the peasants given unto him by command.

This is what matters.
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>>65598225
Gotta walk before you can run
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>>65599231
>integrate a strap that clips into the same thing in the pants, so that you have a harness on at all times
>enemy drone flies in and just grabs your men all prepared to be captured
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>>65599253
> genuine, no meme war crime
Like torturing POWs and filtration and zachistka of civilians in occupied territories?

Attacking medivac vehicles would not be surprising or even new for the ziggers. After all, they put the Red Cross on their own ammo and fuel trucks as a matter of policy, so why would they respect the Red Cross used by anyone else?
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>>65598341
>"whoever moves, shoot him right away"
>officer moves
>grunt doesn't shoot him
This kind of casual indiscipline is why they are losing the war
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>>65599122
Is it really worse than "paratroopers" without the "para" part?
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>>65599277
>>65599311
That's precisely what I am looking for, but gif. Too bad Russian OpsSec is such a beast that you can't overcome their maskirovka
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>>65599253
>Properly marked as a medical vehicle, targeting them intentionally would be a genuine, no meme war crime
Yeah, that's the problem.
They'd be irresistible to Russian drone pilots.
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>>65599324
If the drone can snatch them, it could have just exploded them. And this way my soldiers are only POWs and not dead (obviously Russian doctrine differs).

We're essentially reducing warfare to a game of tag with a lot of extra steps but when it's over, my soldiers come home alive and my demographics survive and allow me to bounce back.
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>>65599364
How could you possibly know that, Chornyyzmeya?

It's classified information!
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>>65598211
WEEEEELLLLLLLLL LIFE ON THE OUTSIDE AIN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE
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>>65599680
Superkek
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>>65599680
Based and underrated
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>>65599221
How can one even call them human
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>>65599224
>ziggerphone_no_audio.mp4
>Red tape is an idiom that means official rules, paperwork, and bureaucratic procedures that are overly complicated, seem unnecessary, and cause frustrating delays
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hear me out.
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>>65598409
>2100
>TWENTY ONE FUCKING HUNDRED
jesus christ
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>>65598365
o7
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>>65598327
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>>65598409
>And together we will share the dream
>On the fields of green
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>>65600049
I posted the url with the audio in the post above.
What's your fucking problem?
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>>65600106
You're six days early to be celebrating Orctober 26th.
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>>65600051
>pröööt
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>>65600124
Sort of meant as the abbrv- 2026 (26)
But that's ok, either way the guys there will still be there on the 26th of Orctober as well and I suspect for some time after
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>>65599224
At this point I gotta ask: what is the point of all of that? The mobiks getting the shit beaten out of them will just walk foward and die, without giving a shit.
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>>65600162
>what is the point of all of that? The mobiks getting the shit beaten out of them will just walk foward and die, without giving a shit.
You answered your own question.
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>>65600162
Anyone who has ever lived or had to work with Russians understands
Its therapeutic
It doesn't change anything, they will still whinge, fight, cry, steal, lie, turn up drunk and behave like fucking subhumans

But, you will feel better
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>>65600121
Wrong post? Otherwise it was just a jest at the red tape they used to tie up the soldier.
>everything is worse in Russia, even red tape
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>>65600051
figures that japna makes a flying tentacle drone
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>>65600176
FWIW, the Russians that GTFO and wanted to live in the west were pretty much normal people.

But teh stories tehy told from home. . .the tl;dr is that they confirm all the stereotypes.
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>>65600176
Homo Sovjeticus in its purest form
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>>65600193
>few loud ones
Who is gonna tell him?
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>>65600193
>a bunch of thieving, lying gypsies that burn and rape innocent people.
Ukrainians are not the Romanians and Turks.

You have to be careeful to use the correct insults for the type of untermensch you want to insult.
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>>65600195
Wrong. Ukranians have very stong opinions, argue the letter of the law constantly and don't take shit from anyone.
T. Guy who deals with ukranian refugees daily.
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>>65600176
Metapod uses Harden
It is not very effective
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>>65600193
Uh oh HIV melty
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>>65600184
Ok.
You were very vague about your response.
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>>65600162
maybe the commander enjoys being sadistic
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>>65598443
He got 20 years.
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>>65600234
Pearls before swine.
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>>65600257
Damn, he must be a petukh by then.
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>>65600162
institutionalized cycle of abuse
>What else can you expect of the officers if they themselves grew up in barracks? They too used to get beaten as cadets, and they still get beaten at their units. Every other colonel of ours is capable of little more than screaming and punching, reducing a lieutenant, captain or major to a moaning, dishevelled wretch in front of junior ranks. Nor do the generals bother to mete out penalties to the colonels any more; they simply hit them.
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>>65599108
>Drop cripple with a pidorian flag on random roof
>Film video of him waving the flag
>Village conquered
>???
>Profit
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>>65598359
We'd be hearing news on how the new Russian government is repairing relations with Ukraine and the West, while hunting down pro-Putin holdouts is Siberia and the former Soviet republics, by now.
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>>65598327
WELL LIFE ON THE OUTSIDE AIN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE
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>>65598211
he's coming too? roger that
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>>65598211
Kojima spoke of this you know?
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>>65599416
Because it's the exact same plan Russian command used last time. And the seventeen times before that.
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>>65600263
He was the one russian with the balls left to actually stand up to the state with lethal results, presumably that same initiative will be present when he murders his rapist instead of just accepting the state of things.
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>>65600051
Imagine the tentaclejobs.
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>>65599364
pardon my ignorance but what game?
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>>65600549
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2

You better be a zoomer.
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>>65600549
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2
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>>65600176
russoids will record an abundance of shit like this for you to watch while STILL claiming it was occult outside forces that brought about communism and they were mere victims
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>>65600186
>FWIW, the Russians that GTFO and wanted to live in the west were pretty much normal people.
No they're not. They're still fucked up to some extent deeper inside. But a good environment does make a major difference in behavior.
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>>65600559
You need to understand for 90% of all russians there are two truths: The truth they tell each other and the truth they tell others. You may laugh about it and call it vile, but it is surprising how well this works on opportunists, eternal contrarians and useful idiots outside their country.
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>>65598731
Zigs are stockpiling tanks instead of just driving them into landmines, there's a few options on why
>Tsar Monke is saving up for an armored push, (since that went so well the first hundred times)
>They literally just don't have gas for them
>The usual cope that tanks are useless in the drone age
>Tsar monke is preparing for an armored assault... On a NATO country. Because one war is already going so well.
And many more.
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>>65600559
Connecting the dots and noticing facts is dangerous and might get you raped, arrested, raped, beaten, sent to prison, raped, and killed. You'll also be fucked in the ass somewhere along the way.
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>>65600162
Yeah I don't get it, if my own army gave me a rifle after beating me like that I know who'd I'd use it on.
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>>65600559
There is an abundance of blame for everything which runs downhill like some kind of demented Rube Goldberg kicking machine and someone at the bottom invariably gets their arsehole expanded by the size 9000 jack boot of the state being planted so deep, that there's generations that are genetically modified to taste a combination of their own shit, leather and boot polish
They know what the problem is
All of them, but time and time again they line up, drop them pants and take the boot
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>>65600569
That why they only give them the rifles when its time to fight, and have barrier troops with rifles standing behind them.
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>>65599108
Yes
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>>65599229
The it instills fear into others. Yes, into their own. That's the idea. This is a microcosm of the modern RU regime: it can't do mass repressions like USSR did, so it uses media to overexpose the repressions which are done to get something akin to an AoE damage from it. TL;DR: you jail one retard -> 50 more get scared into submission. Same with this shit: they post a video -> others become more compliant.
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>>65600176
It's called the Pidor Piñata
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>>65600646
>since dear Donnie is going to force Ukraine to surrender
In two weeks?
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>>65600696
Obviously.
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>>65598365
They've had the defiance systematically beaten out of them since time immemorial. Remember that it took 400 years of treatment that would make the cruelest Medieval European Lord look like a saint to get the Bolshevik revolution. This, comparatively, is nothing.

I don't subscribe to the whole "slave race" idea, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a better example.
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>>65599229
Making an example. They won't catch everyone, but everyone they do catch is going to get the ever loving shit kicked out of them to scare the others.
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>>65600771
Its less slave race and more slave culture.
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>>65600771
Bolshevik "revolution" wasn't neither lead by peasants nor was it a real popular revolution. It was a violent military coup by a small terrorist organization after it badly lost elections to competitors which had actual popular support.
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>>65600570
>I'd like to say for the record, that I agree with everything that's happeni- *gets arrested*
Beautiful instant karma.
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>>65600807
kek
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>>65600807
lmao zigger melty
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>>65600489
>Kazuhira "One Man Klan" Miller
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>>65600807
>>65600866
>desperately trying to shill harder so his supervisor doesn't rape him for poor performance
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>>65600866
>live in a country that is led by pedhopilic cult
picrel

>importing rapefugee by the thousands
russia imported 1/3 of tajikistan's population over the recent years
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>>65600866
t. glass house-dwelling stone-thrower
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>>65600928
>imagine if we rebuild the Soviet Union and we have a predominately Islamic population
Russian sudoku rates would be sky high if the caliphate outlawed alcohol.
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>>65600933
Bruh, ruslim mudslimes eat pork, drink vodka and fuck each other in the ass like proper rusniggers.
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>>65600939
Why bother being a muzzie then?
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>>65600941
Why do "Christians" in the US give money to mega-churches and fap to Israel? Because people are retarded.
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>>65600941
To own the libs (russians)
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>>65598783
They also keep making the retarded point that "It's the Ukrainian fault that we are killing them because they keep resisting while we are killing them". It's actually pretty grim to see a lot of retards falling for this kind of "argument".
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>>65600802
Yes and no. The bolsheviks were the second largest party after the Russian Constituent Assembly election. And while you're right that they didn't have much support amongst the peasantry they were by far the most popular party among the Russian soldiers.
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>>65600094
it took 3 years buy Ukraine can finally make this a reality
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>>65601130
>Just stop fighting bro surely the people willing to do this to invade you will be normal and basically the same as your current government once they strip you of your sovereignty and self-determination
Honestly insane how many people I see who seem to think anybody would even bother fighting this hard if it was more of the same either way.
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>>65600941
It gives you slightly more status than the other slaves. Come on anon do you really need to ask this?
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>>65601459
One of my favorite parts of the war was when ziggers dug mass graves right before the invasion, (hmm why would they need these if it's a peaceful power transfer and Ukraine is Russia's brother nation who totally wants to return to monkes embrace?) and ended up filling them with their own troops instead.
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>>65598441
nah that thing always drops the payload
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>>65600849
>Kazuhira "Unload my Gat on the Welfare Line" Miller
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>>65598211
The most surprising thing to me is that they're starting to approach the size of manned helicopters but they're still scaling up the multirotor design instead of switching to conventional rotors.
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>>65601826
They're infinitely simpler, meaning easier and cheaper to manufacture. Just consider the swashplate and linkages and servos and gears of a regular chopper, it's a mess. Helicopters are an abomination. Drones are awful too, you could say they're not aircrafts, but a battery that happens to fly out of its sheer power density, but that inefficiency is irrelevant when you can shit them out at scale.
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>>65601816
Its
>Kazuhira "Unload my Nine on the Welfare Line" Miller
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>>65600565
My personal guess is that these are reserved for internal use by Rosvgyardia or whatever they are called, Putin gave them heavy weapons after the Pringles incident
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>>65600571
Even then, if its a choice between fightinh some western backed arseholes on the wrong side of a kill zone that haven't really done anything to me or a unit of arsehole chechens who are much closer and also protecting that officer I want to kill...



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