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cucky gunner sales data
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwPc8TW5UUM
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>>65609568
i'm happy to see 7.62x39 still going strong
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>>65609573
Im surprised, I would have figured 300 larpout would have took its spot. Must be alot more SKS and AK rifles kicking around than I thought.
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>>65609576
>>65609573
.300 blacked is going to surpass x39 in a year or 2 if the graph trend lines hold up. .300 blacked keeps going up and x39 sales have died since the import ban
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>>65609573
luv me AK
luv me AR47
luv me 7.62x39

simple as
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>>65609568
>.30 carbine 4th
No way
Also no .22lr?
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>>65609568
>300 nigger beating out 308 winCHADster
Proof modern gun owners are retarded
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>>65609602
What's even the point? From a cursory look at ballistic data its damn near 9milly unless I misread something. Why not just use a silenced mp5 clone or something if you really want something rifle shaped
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>>65609583
Concur. It’s becoming much cheaper (it always should have been imo but I’ve never graphed or projected start up costs)

>>65609600
I’m sure it’s not counted in this catagory
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>>65609600
>>65609613
he didn't count .22lr with the rifle rounds. he had an earlier graph, .22lr made up 15.5% of their total sales behind only 9mm and .223/5.56.
.22lr sales would also be even lower because people buy .22lr and 12 gauge from walmart or other physical stores since .22lr is so cheap you have to buy a ton of it to offset the shipping costs
>>65609602
6.5 sneed is also raping fuddy ot 6
>>65609607
there's no way the supersonics are as weak as 9mm
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>>65609607
>Why not just use a silenced mp5 clone or something if you really want something rifle shaped
You cant discount the convenience of only having to swap an upper receiver and still being able to use your standard 556 mags and bolt. This is hobby mostly driven by cost and an upper is cheaper than investing in a whole new firearm and magazines.
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>>65609620
Look it up for yourself when I've done so the numbers were p. similar
>>65609624
Gunsoomers are pretty insensitive to price
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>>65609573
Honestly surprised. Would've expected a higher impact by the import ban.
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>>65609568
>people still buying fucking x39
literally why. it's gotta be rednecks at this point.
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>>65609607
>>65609602
gun owners are literally retarded. would rather buy 300 black than a fucking 308 battle rifle
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>>65609568
Out of curiousity, why did .30 carbine fall off? Did it get supplanted by a similar, yet better round?
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>>65609984
Carbines became much more expensive and harder to come by
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>>65609602
I just got back from the range testing some new .308 loads. 175gr SMKs @2760fps
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>>65609626
300 memeout is similar to 7.62x39 than it is to 9mm
>pic related
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>>65609626
>Look it up for yourself
You should probably do that. It is nothing like 9mm.
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>>65610003
At rifle barrel lengths and with subs the 9mm has similar velocity with marginal muzzle energy differences
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>>65610028
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>>65609568
I have a hard time believing they sold that much .30 carbine.
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>>65609568
Sad to see .30 Carbine go, even though it was expected.
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>>65609602
Its cheaper, so they can buy more with each paycheck. It's also consumed faster in 30-round mags rather than 20-round mags.
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>>65609602
Most people don't hunt so .300 Blackout is more versatile
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>>65609568
love me .30____
hate ____mm
simple as
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>>65609975
Pls do not disparage the distinguished SKS enjoyers of the nation. Instead please focus your negative attentions on tranny commie larpers and ak tankies
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>>65609975
they own guns that shoot x39
>>65609984
>>65609987
there's only one gun that shoots .30 carbine and cucky gunner said it only ever sells in years where they obtain a lot of cheap milsurp. it was only in the top 5 because they had a ton of milsurp that first year or because it was like 1% but the other calibers were rarer
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>>65609568
>6.5 Sneedmore on the chart
YES BABY
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>>65610449
I just like the fact that it’s tied with .308 lol fitting
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>>65609568
30-06 still surprises me desu. EVERYONE shoots that damn thing. The ammo is so expensive even for the M1 so you’re basically looking at hunters and a couple match competitors keeping it alive.
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>>65609568
Why is 7.62x39 so expensive if its so popular? Unless you shoot the dirtiest, steel case, corrossive shit its my most pricy gun to feed. My second is .308 and its like 10 cents a round cheaper.
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>>65610475
the cucky gunner guy pointed out that hunting ammo sells for so much, you don't actually need to sell that many round per year for companies to make it since they already have all the equipment and .30-06 has a large install base
Also, I'd assume their .30-06 sales are lower than .30-06 sales in general because a lot of hunters probably buy their .30-06 and .30-30 in person and not in bulk
>>65610525
legacy install base from when we could get cheap russian ammo. no one ever tooled up to make cheap plinking ammo for it in the US because they could never compete with the russian imports on cost and there's still a massive install base
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>>65609568
no fucking way 30 carbine is on this list
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>>65610857
Come to think of it you're right. But its been over a decade now, why are all the ammo producers just leaving money on the table for such a well established cartridge? Im not saying it has to be cranked out like it's .22lr but for one of the most popular cartridges in the world its kind of a bitch to get cheap and bulk with any quality left over.
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>>65610956
I think it's just a coincidence. he said they only really sell .30 carbine in years where they receive a large supply of cheap milsurp. the first year they had a lot of cheap milsurp and he said most of the hunting rounds don't sell anyway. like everything below x39 sells less than 2% of all centerfire rifle sales each and anything below the top 10 sells less than 1% combined. Plus, the first year was 2010 so most hunters were probably buying their hunting rounds at physical stores. He specifically said they got a ton of cheap .30 carbine milsurp in 2010 and that was one of their highest sales years for .30 carbine. If you look at the 2010 list its, 5.56, x39, .30 carbine. x51 nato and .30-06 so I'd assume milsurp drove a lot of their sales back then
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>>65610991
So what hes saying is he released useless data?
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>>65611079
watch the vid. he admits they are just cucky gunner sales figs and not industry wide sales figs and he shows multiple graphs and admits that 30 carbine only sells in years where they have a lot of cheap milsurp and 2010, the first full year of sales data, happened to be a year where they had a lot of .30 carbine milsurp
the stuff he thought was the most interesting is that 9mm makes up the vast majority of handgun sales. .223/5.56, 9mm and .22lr makes up like 3/4rds of all of his sales. and that sales of centerfire rifle ammo that isn't .223/5.56 or x39 is so low that .300 blacked and 6.5 sneedmore are now in the top 5 for rifle sales, even though they are extremely new rounds.
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yeah
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>>65609602
300blk is more likely to get mag dumped while 308 is more expensive and used for longer shots at slower rof

>>65609607
300blk is pointier and therefore better penetration at subsonic speeds, then you can do a mag change and shoot supers out of the same gun that perform close to 7.62x39
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>>65610968
Uses a .313 bullet for one.
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yeah
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30-06 :)
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>>65609607
Maybe subs out of the same barrel length.
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I kow key regret getting into 300 instead of just putting all of that money back into my 5.56 rifle.
Its a cool round but the subsonic gimmick wears off after a few range trips and wildly different ballistics of subsonic vs supersonic makes picking a compromise zero unsatisfactory.
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>>65616597
don't they have 2 dot red dots for .300 blacked?
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>>65609573
>Fueled entirely by dracos
Monkeys paw finger curls.jpg
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>>65609602
.308 ARs cost triple what .300 nigra ARs cost.
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>>65609602
if I didn't live in a cuckstate I'd have a .300 blacked AR over a normal 16 inch 5.56 for HD because muh noise
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>>65616759
I thought the same but 300 subsonics especially have an over-penetration issue with drywall
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>>65616769
that sucks
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>>65616769
Good. Those bastards can’t hide from me now.
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>>65616597
If you don’t care what others think about you, Consider
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>>65616597
I have a .308 and I intend to develop a supersonic and subsonic load such that I can have one zero and use different holds on the scope
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>>65616568
Correct, longer barrels



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