Expect to see these sniping J-20s and J-35s from the sky in a couple years.
As much as I would love to see it I doubt it.
>>65610542The philippines has money and *could* afford it in an alternate reality, the reason everyone is broke and the government barely works is that the entire country is run by like 3 families and those families singlehandedly control all the wealth and they have their own ideas on how to use it, so instead of reinvesting it locally on infrastructure or public education or development projects they buy assets abroad because they've found they get a better ROI that way and as a result nobody believes there's a future there and anyone who can get out does and anyone with any money immediately invests it in foreign real estate and foreign business ventures instead of trying to start a local business because any local business will instantly be mafia'd into oblivion by corruptionPeople talk all kinds of shit about "command economies" and pretend that it exclusively describes communism but really it's the logical end game of oligarchy and plutocracy, too much in the hands of too few results in a zero sum mentality that poisons society and guarantees that everyone will be running for the exits and stabbing their neighbor in the back to get there firsttl;dr this won't happen, but it's not because of a lack of money
>>65610466>5th genlol, it's 4th gen at most
>>65610466Window shopping again. Why don't they get those F-16s first.
>>65610466>The 4.5 will be sniping 5th gens, including one specifically designed for long-range BVROr do you seriously believe the Block III will enjoy any export success whatsoever?
>>65610466They aren't cheap
>>65610466It has exactly 0.001% chances of survival
>>65611403>Or do you seriously believe the Block III will enjoy any export success whatsoever?I don't even think Block III will exist outside of a handful of prototypes.
Idgaf give me a soft bisaya lady boy gf or I'll kill myself tonight
>>65611805Chances are it'll have a production run as extensive as the Su-57, and there are more J-35s built than Su-57s despite the former only entering service last year.
>>65611922I doubt it.AFAIK the current plan was to upgrade 1/4 to 1/2 of the Block II ROKAF fleet into Block III.As they can't afford to waste time/money to retool the production line if they expect to sell the Block I/II on the export market. I bet they upgrade 2-4 Block II airframes as prototypes, do flight tests, then pivot the rest of the budget into their unmanned programs or buying more Block II jets.
>>65611884remember to aim under the brain stem
>>65610466With WHAT fucking money?>t.actual Flip
>>65611397>Window shopping again. Why don't they get those F-16s first.Fuck off back to /pol/ indog. Don't you have a government to shill??
>>65612367Post hole and hanging balls from the back my sweet
>>65612390Nah, but have this neat gif instead
>>65610466They wouldn't be able to maintain them for longer than a year or two, but that year when they can just straight up go toe to toe with anything China could throw at them from the seas would be glorious.
>>65610466The Philippines are GOAT in window shopping but not actually buying shit.They can proclaim they'll buy 40 F-35Bs and nothing will happen, their politicians and generals prefer personally enriching themselves and their clan over national security.
I think in a SHTF scenario, flips expect the US air force and navy to do most of the heavy lifting and establish air superiority and patrol Philippine skies. That's why the MRF's are such a low priority for them
>>65610466Korean stuff is selling like hot bibimbaps in SEA. Westoids and Chikoids better step up their game or Samsnug will be official Military Supplier of ASEAN.
>>65614432Only a handful of Korean vehicles sell well on the international arms market, usually the Thunder and Black Panther.
>>65614291>flips expect the US air force and navy to do most of the heavy lifting and establish air superiority and patrol Philippine skiesAnd yet they plan to buy more planes. US is a fucking unreliable allies.If china declare war to the flips, i bet that some retard in charge of the us is going to make excuse to abandon them.
>>65614489>i bet that some retard in charge of the us is going to make excuse to abandon them.Oh they will, no one in America will die for the Philippines no matter the political party.
no i don't think the philpines can aford it. and it would never happen as they already bearly out fit their own millitary only Vietnam i can see actually feilding some.>>65610781you ned proof dor that which you americans never show. becuase its classified so its another way of saying bullshit.
>>65617272>you ned proof dor that which you americans never show. becuase its classified so its another way of saying bullshit.What the fuck are you talking about?4th gen, 4.5th gen, and 5th gen are all well known/established generations that are in no way classified in the broad sense.We can easily look at the KF-21 and tell it's a 4.5th gen jet, not 5th gen. Nothing classified about it.
>>65617272>Philippines GDP $512.22 billion>Vietnam GDP $527.26 billionThey are basically the same.
>>65614988Thank God
>>65614988The thing no one wants you or more importantly China to know is the US isn't going to war with a nuclear power over Taiwan either.There have been plenty of chances for nuclear powers to war with eachother over the last 80 years and no one wants to risk it.Best case for Taiwan they get the Biden Ukraine treatment, worst case they get the Trump Ukraine treatment.
>>65614988Who the fuck wants to fight for the Philippines? Not even the Filipinos want to fight for the Philippines.
>>65617795The second Taiwan starts to get invaded we simply JDAM the fuck out of TSMC, that way the chinks can’t have it, nobody actually cares about Taiwan we just care about TSMC and they are opening factories in the US so we literally don’t need Taiwan anymore, we just have to ensure the complete destruction of their factories when it kicks off
>>65617916>nobody actually cares about TaiwanChina does, it controls a lot of their coastline.
>>65617924Taiwan controls China's coastline? Didn't know Taiwan had a massive navy.
>>65617933You're pretending to be retarded, right?
>>65610466>*Your bro eyes up a girl from across the bar*>"heh, I expect to see some children in a year or two"Mf'ers need to learn to stop acting like this shit is already happening when they are still being handed the brochures.
>>65617935Don't word your statement in a retarded fashion and I won't mock it, dipshit.
>>65617924Like I said, nobody actually cares about Taiwan
>>65617940>Taiwan is in a strategically important location for both the defense and offense of the chinese mainlandIs that better?>>65617947I think the US does care because it gives them bases close to China if anything ever happens, same reason they put missiles in Turkey and the USSR put them in Cuba.That said I don't think they care enough to risk direct war with China but a competent admin would offer a lot of support to Taiwan in the hope they hold out.
>>65617956Taiwan's position in the "first island chain" is largely academic from the standpoint of a prospective Sino-American war due to the US not having any real elements stationed there, and Taiwan itself certainly isn't going to take advantage of its geographical position to retake the mainland for the glory of the Republic.
>>65610466It won't be 5th gen until block 3 at the earliest, and even then there's current no guarantee it will be any better than faux stealth platforms like the SU57 and J20.
>>65617993There is really no guarantee block 3 happens at all. The ROKAF hasn't placed any orders, unlike with both block 1 and 2 airframes which have had firm orders for a while now.
>>65617993"Faux stealth" is what the KF-21 currently is, a 4.5 with 5th generation characteristics. That could also arguably be said of the Su-57 but are we seriously still comparing the Felon to the J-20 in the big 2026?
>>65610466I am so sick of hearing of this thing when they haven't even gotten the internal weapons bay working after years of developments.
>>65618076Are you old enough the first decade of the F-35?Shits hard and things go wrong, smart countries admit there are problems, allocate more funding and fix them. Stupid countries fake the reports, say everything is fine and go to war with shit that doesn't work.
>>65618081SOME problems are hard IWB is a no brainer
>>65618076>when they haven't even gotten the internal weapons bay working after years of developmentsWat?IWB was always a Block 3 objective.They're currently shipping Block 1 and are transitioning to Block 2 soon. It'll be years before Block 3 is ready, if ever. The current Block 1 and Block 2 baseline is already about as good as it gets for a 4.5th gen, especially since it has recessed undercarriage missiles unlike all other 4.5th gen fighters which have missiles hanging off traditional hardpoints/pylons.
>>65618089>IWB is a no brainerLol you're just wrong on this.Having an IWB that can open/close quickly/reliably AT supersonic speeds is incredibly challenging.
>>65618095Its a fucking door that opens up and protrudes pilons that then release the missile.Some idiot could get there with trial and error you dont even need math.>muh stealthMissiles arent stealth and neither at the f22 and f35 weapons bays. You can see the exposed wires and pipes whenever they open them up.
>>65618114You're just wrong and retarded. Thanks for playing.
>>65618114NTA but get on youtube and look up bomb drop test footage for all the times unknown aerodynamics pushed bombs back up into the wing after dropping from the pylon. Then consider how much worse it is when it's going from a shielded bay and falling into the airflow.
>>65618114At supersonic speeds, air rushing under the jet forms a high-pressure boundary layer. If you simply "drop" a missile, the airflow under the fuselage creates a force vector that can push the missile back up into the plane or turn it sideways before its engine ignites.Opening doors against supersonic air resistance requires massive hydraulic force without warping the door panels, disturbing air intakes, or throwing off the plane's flight stability.Because gravity won't work, IWBs require high-energy, heavy-duty pneumatic/hydraulic ejector racks (like the LAU-142/A on the F-22) that punch the missile out of the bay at ~25 feet per second to clear the boundary layer before the missile ignites.
