>>65610824
Consider the historical trend for infantry combat:
-vietnam was company scale centric + artillery for called fires; and the support umbrella was a battalion/brigade
-gwot was platoon-squad scale centric + air power; support level was company/battalion
-ukraine is squad-team centric + quadcopters

So what reorganization does the team level infantry need today?
It makes an argument for a modern LMG still being relevant, or maybe a better rifle
It suggests we need to drop the intermediate levels, like maybe a 60 man 'company' which is a big platoon of 15 man drone squad plus 2-3 assaulter squads

>>65610824
I agree

>>65610900
Well we definitely need drone operators in platoon and company level because the scouting advantage and the ability to call in airstrike or gun barrage is so crucial to taking out enemies, as well as to call in reinforcements of all sorts or to just retreat. Separating the two will only result in platoon of troop wading into a rapidily changing battlefield with outdated info on enemy presence.

As for weapon, the future is definitely light, small, firepower focused. I'm thinking M4A1 carbine with their 5.56 NATO rounds are most ideal. Squad auto weapons like the SAW M249 is better than LMGs because the LMG level firepower will come from Bradley or other IFV/LAV which have even bigger firepower than a light machine gun team can provide. Fast in and out op. Similar to Fallujah 2004 when US troop learnt quick that staying in any one location will turn said location into a killzone for the enemy to encircle or enfilade and assault or bombard

>>65610824
The key to German success in both world wars was that level of autonomy was granted to small units. Of course, there was large scale coordination,
>Tomorrow at 05:00 we're attacking here
but lieutenants had a great deal of latitude in how they accomplished that goal. Mostly because they knew
>no plan survives first contact with the enemy.
If you read Rommel's book, which you should read first because it's a bit slower and less exciting, you can see a lot of good examples of
>I found a bunch of guys who lost their unit and we banded together and kicked a bunch of ass.
You see a bit of that in SoS, but not so much.
The Iranians used a similar strategy early in the current fuckfest and have orders to do the same again if command breaks down. So get ready for more random missile strikes if things heat up again.
The reason the Germans lost was mostly due to lack of resources and retarded and frankly traitorous leadership, on both instances.
Come to think of it, the Viet Kong used a similar strategy.

>>65610950
>Rommel
I've got to read up on him because a documentary series from the 2000s gave me the notion that he would send forces in without recon and that the 2nd phase was just pure defensive ww1 style pitched battle that he ultimately lost because of attrition
>The reason the Germans lost was mostly due to lack of resources and retarded and frankly traitorous leadership, on both instances
I'd say the ultimate reason was that their leadership bit way more they can chew. Imagine Germany committing the forces of Barbarossa to fighting in N. Africa instead of opening a new front with the Soviet Union. One lesson Hitler didn't learn from the Eastern Front of the Great War was that the Russians are tenacious fighters even when they're on the backfoot. The entrance of America in both World Wars was the coup de grace, there was no matching the US and her allies. I'm still surprised that the Islamic Regime is still threatening shipping in the Hormuz to this day, which along with Trump's dilly-dallying over whether he's gonna takeout dual use infrastructure just shows how soft the US has become in just 30 years. In the First Gulf War, Iraq was sent back to the 19th Century AD by the Coalition air campaign in a matter of a month. Trump's indecisiveness and retarded decision to drag this out with the blockade and everything has convinced me he thought this would be as easy as Venezuela and so, like Putin at the beginning of 3 day operation, made the mistake of undercommitting the war machine to the conflict he began

>>65611016
>Russians are tenacious fighters even when they're on the backfoot
Maybe, but there are basically an infinite supply, too. The resource war includes population.
>The entrance of America in both World Wars was the coup de grace
They had to get those loans repaid some how.
>In the First Gulf War, Iraq was sent back to the 19th Century AD
That's how they Allies won WWII on both fronts. Not only did they absolutely obliterate the entire infrastructure and population of Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but they bombed everything that was even remotely dual use and anything in the neighborhood, since saturation bombing DGAF. The Germans civillians were sick, starving and freezing by the end of the war.
The depletion of resources really fucked them both times. Not to mention all the people in the camps.

>>65611016
>he thought this would be as easy as Venezuela and so, like Putin at the beginning of 3 day operation, made the mistake of undercommitting the war machine to the conflict he began
Not just that, but he and the people around him expected a popular uprising/insurgency against the IRGC. Completely forgetting that a) it had already fizzled out while they were debating whether or not to launch the attack, and about 100k of the people who would've fought the IRGC were already decomposing; b) 47 has a proven track record of suddenly dumping local allies (notably Kurds during 2017-2019), so no potential rebel faction wanted to stick their necks out for him.

>>65611016
Infanterie greift an is a recollection of Rommel's WWI experiences
it show pretty well how confused things can get at the lower levels of command. especially because there wasn't any form of communication at the level he was operating on faster than a runner. so the moment you were operating in rough terrain or during the night you were operating in a information vacuum requiring the commanding officer to be able to source and process his own information and then act on it.

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>>65610824
>highly trained
>mfw just young, dumb & full of cum

>>65611256
Blowing up that elementary school probably didn't help his cause

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>>65611276
>young, dumb & full of cum
for the russian audience: this means your own cum
for the general audience: i'm a boomer so in my mind this was an obvious reference to the cult classic point break (1991) but apparently google has no recollection of that and instead just suggests porn, my apologies

>>65611288
>different people have different reactions to unimaginable carnage and suffering
TBQF Jünger is one in a thousand.

>>65611287
That was a retarded fuckup caused by using Grok for targeting data and not cross-checking the results (which sort of makes sense for the monkeybrain part of our thought process: if you have to cross-check AI results, there's no fucking point to using it in the first place, which is why a lot of corporate policies around cross-checking results are utter bullshit). No, really: that building used to be inside the military base (and wasn't a school at the time), but, at some point in the early-2020s, they moved the base, so several buildings were converted to civvie use.

>>65611301
Nothing to do with AI. The military maintains a database of potential targets all over the world so if a war ever kicks off somewhere, they're ready to bomb everything on a moment's notice. Before the launch order is given, a human analyst has to verify that there's still a military target in that location. They get a short report on what the facility is, a satellite photo from when the report was written, and a current satellite photo, and then they have about 45 seconds to click either the button for "yes, this facility still exists" or "no, it's something else now." The elementary school that got bombed was originally an army barracks before being converted to a school. The analyst looked at the photos, confirmed that the building from the report was still there, and then hit the Go button.

This is actually a situation that could have been prevented by using an AI to aggregate news reports regarding the facility to determine whether its purpose has changed, rather than just relying on a person glancing at a photograph to confirm that a building exists.

>>65611016
>instead of opening a new front with the Soviet Union
That was the whole point of WW2 for the germans, just like in WW1.

Why so many people is unaware that Germany's primary objective always was to conquer the east in both world wars? The western front was always a side show that got out of hand, just like other actions elsewhere.

The real question is if Barbarrossa's objectives could have been achieved with better timing (earlier) or material resources not wasted elesewhere (Lybia).

>>65611476
No way in hell, mostly due to German logistical weakness. I doubt they could have actually done it, even in the absence of a Red Army to fight them.
It should have been an advance to bite off Ukraine and Belarus, followed by heavy border fortifications, establishing puppet countries as some kind of buffer, and digesting the gains with German population transfer to then take another bite in twenty years.
It would have been dicey, but endless offense at the breaking point of your logistics was a mistake.

>>65611016
To be fair, the Iranians are infinitely more competent than the Iraqis were, and we are t doing combined arms shit, because no one wants a ground war

>>65612563
They thought the regime would collapse again, like it had in WW1. Honestly, they had more reasons to think it would than they should have in the first war

>>65610942
>I'm thinking M4A1 carbine with their 5.56 NATO rounds are most ideal
Well well well....

>>65611298
War is always like that. 999 shitbirds, slackers, and pogs for every Junger trying to win the fucking war and have a good time doing it.

>>65611476
>The western front was always a side show that got out of hand, just like other actions elsewhere.
other way around, hitler saw the showdown with france and britian as the ultimate end goal of his 1930s military build up
the east was the ultimate prize of resources that would fuel his delusions of an eternal reich, but he wasnt overly worried about soviet resistance and saw the western allies as the true blockade to his conquest

the fall of france in such a small time frame was a genuine shock because he defeated what he perceived as the final boss at the end of disc 1
he turned east because he thought he had already won, the british were not in a good position to liberate france and wouldnt be for 3 more years
it was the eastern front that was what got out of hand, quickly turning from an expected victory lap to the largest front of the war

>>65610824
>Hey look a good thre-
>UKRAINE MENTIONED
Oh yeah all the bradleys have been destroyed, nothing personal.

>>65611288
That's just the duality of man, anon.

>>65612861
>zigger talking points out of nowhere
Jeez, -1 Serbia hit a nerve I guess

>>65610824
What blew up?