what stops armor from simply bum rushing an artillery position?shells take 30-60 seconds to get on target by then a tank going 45miles/hr will already be past the blast zone.
>>65616649This assumes the enemy does not also have doodz between you and their artillery
>>65616649>what stops armor from simply bum rushing an artillery position?under normal circumstances, this is exactly what will happenNATO wargaming estimated artillery can only inflict 10% K or M-kills on assaulting soviet artillery positions even with concentrated attack, allowing armor to displace artillery however, both attackers and defenders know about this weakness, they have access to the same technology and forcestherefore, the defender will keep their own armor in position to defend artillery from enemy maneuverwhat then occurs is called "tactics" and "maneuver" in which both attacker and defender constantly move and block each other from achieving an advantageous positionthe attacker may succeed in outmaneuvering the defender and defeat artillery as intended but the defender may win the game of positioning and force the attackers into an area where they cannot avoid the artillerythere seems to be a strange way of thinking, that battles are decided as a series of hard counters being played in succession to each otherthe equivalent of thinking that a game of magic the gathering is simply a chain of responses to individual cards, creater -> doomblade -> mana drain rather than as a full game with large decks and hands
>>65616658This plus throw in smart shells
>>65616649Arty is behind the front, you have to push through the lines to get to them.Also most arty has direct fire capability so if there is a lot of tubes the armour is going to die.
>>65616722>Also most arty has direct fire capability so if there is a lot of tubes the armour is going to die.artillery firing directly are already doomedsince if they are doing that, then the tanks attacking them are also withnin direct fire rangethey might get a few of them, but theres a good reason anti-tank weapons exist rather than relying solely on artillery to beat themarmor rushing down artillery is a very real, very likely event which is why the defenders will send out their own armor and mech infantry to cut off the enemy movement
>>65616730That's why I stipulated a lot of tubes.If 1 tank gets through to 20 tubes it's probably dead along with 12 tubes, if 10 tanks get through to 20 tubes the arty is fucked.
>>65616649all the other people in between your tank and the artillery, pretty much. This is one of the doctinal uses of armor to exploit maneuvers and a pretty good reason of why tanks aren't going away just because drones exist.Ukraine actually demonstrated this back in 2014 when they used armor to out-maneuver the separatists and relieve pressure during the fight for the Donetsk Airport.https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_of_the_95th_Brigade
>>65616649>simply bum rushing an artillery position?If you're a rich country you're using a lot of self-propelled artillery these days
>>65616649>what stops armor from simply bum rushing an artillery position?Drones.Tank spotted by drones km's away. Balsted by artillery while the drones correcting it. Proofs??The Ukrainian Counteroffensyf that is blinted by drones and artillery.
>>65616649The fact that even the dumbest of third world militaries have a somewhat functioning brain [citation needed] and will at least usually make a token attempt to put something in front of the artillery to stop this sort of thing.
>>65616649This is how tanks countered WWI trench warfare meta and we got Blitzkrieg WWII.
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>>65616649>what stops armor from simply bum rushing an artillery position?Land mines
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