You have 3 carrier groups, bases in Jordan and Israel, and 2 Amphibious ready groups. How do you win the Iran war?
>>65617145I bomb the shit out of israel.
>>65617149Fpbp.
>>65617145Do your own homework, Hagsack
>>65617145What blew up in israel today??
>>65617145Define "win", do I just have to overthrow the government with no long term plan for stability?
>>65617145I mean bombing bridges, powerplants, key infrastructure sites etc. is the winning method. They should have done this days/weeks after the first round of attacks that targeted the military. >Muh war crime!It worked against the serbs didnt it?
>>65617161Iran made it very clear no tanker loading port or refinery in the ME would survive the response to that.
>>65617145by doing the shart of the deal. give the ayazuttahs everything they want, ally with them and start supplying them with big, beautiful weapons so they can conquer the rest of the middle east. Brining finally bigly peace to the region. Israel? what is that. They dont want the bestest king they ever had to rule them, then fuck them>T
>>65617158Op here. Initial war goal: Unconditional surrender by Iran. Installation of Pahlavi. Control of Iran's resources and industry. End of their ballistic missile, drone and nuclear programs. Sorry, didn't occur to me to post that in the op. That's the win condition.
>>65617167That's impossible.
>>65617167In that case you are going to need ~1,000,000 men for those goals and it turns into Afghanistan the second you withdraw.
>>65617169I didn't set the terms kek.
>>65617145I take my whiny ass death to america bullshit back to /pol/ where it belongs
>>65617172Shut the fuck up, tourist scum.
>>65617170No million man army allowed. Only what's currently accumulated as staged in preparation for resumption of the war. Any additional forces credibly assumed to be currently in theater from kurdistan to kuwait can be put in play. Special forces, himars, etc.
>>65617172Is it still "death to America" when you are just watching it commit sudoku?>>65617176In that case you are just pulling a Putin thinking it'll fall like a house of cards.
>>65617179Those are the stated goals irl, those are the forces assembled to accomplish it irl.
>>65617180Those are the publicly stated goals just as Putin's publicly stated goal was the complete annexation of Ukraine, we'll see a much smaller goal claimed as the victory in both cases.
>>65617184>just as Putin's publicly stated goal was the complete annexation of UkraineWhere exactly was this publicly stated?I can, off the top of my head, remember that the US stated outright that the end of the Iranian nuclear program as a goal, but the rest flows together into a haze of inane we wuz winning statements.
>>65617188https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2029923412269809980There are multiple other statements that the US would seize Iran's oil.
>>65617195I'll accept that, but orange nigger talks so much shit that I can never take anything he says too seriously.
>>65617196It's not just shit talk. It's exactly what Trump did with venezuela, and what he believed would happen in Iran. That was the actual plan.
>>65617208Yep, he couldn't understand a corrupt VP being willing to sell out the country is not the same as a whole society that has spent 40 years hating the US.
>>65617210And the only ones willing to fight to the death for Maduro were his cuban security. Which fact should give Trump pause about attacking Cuba, but won't.
>>65617167how long does the puppet have to survive?likewise how long does control of Irans resources/BM program have to last?
>>65617254Irrelevant to the SMO for the purposes of this exercise. If you achieve those goals, it's won. What comes down the line is beyond the purview of this thread. Too many variables.
>>65617215The funniest thing about Cuba is they would have been completely fucked with a surprise attack but Trumps spent the last decade threatening them just as medium range drones become common.One 40ft container full would let them take out every oil rig off the coast of Florida.
>>65617260Easy win in that case, just send in the troops, take over, install the puppet, hoist a flag over the oil fields, wait 24 hours for good measure and then pull everything out and leave
>>65617276You only have the troops currently assigned to theater to work with. As previously stated itt.
>>65617280NTA but it could be done zigger style>launch every chopper from every ship at the same time>each one fill with as many men as possible>each man issued a flag>if one of them lives long enough to plant a flag in Tehran you win
>>65617149Fpbp
Start massing up a negro mercenary force, after bombing the coast enough give them the order to use their inflatable rubber boats to assault.
>>65617161>mean bombing bridges, powerplants, key infrastructure sites etc. is the winning method. They should have done this days/weeks after the first round of attacks that targeted the military.Sure, that'll bring down the regime ... And then you'll have a 20 year insurgency fighting an insurgency against a dozen splinter groups, all of whom are perfectly capable of continuing to strike ships passing through the Strait.
>>65617145Bomb Israel and Palestine
>>65617302kek
>>65617145Guys... how many times must it be said that you can't win a war through naval and/or air power alone?
>>65617522You can, depending on your strategic goals.If you just want to sink a navy air and sea will do the job, if you want to install a puppet government you are going to need men with guns in the street.
This thread has convinced me that Iran didn't lose the war simply because they can attack a civilian ship every few days or so.
>>65617538So the war is over?For real this time?
>>65617145Go home and tell Israel they're on their own now
By the way, for those who don't know, crude flow out of the middle east is up.
>>65617544>crude flow out of the middle east is upProofs?
>>65617538I think some discord got bored and decided to shit up /k/ again.
>>65617544Cool so I guess that makes $116 a barrel completely acceptable now
>>65617550>$116Lol
>>65617554Sorry, $115.4 as we're speaking
>>65617554>$61 before the war>nearly double the price
>>65617149fpbp
>>65617550Maybe we shouldn't be shipping our oil out when we need it here. Ship it from Alaska to the west coast, refine it, and sell it domestically.
>>65617564You want to tell private business they can't maximize profits by exporting for higher prices commie?
>>65617564But that would be communism, isn't it?
>>65617566I'm not a commie. I'm a fascist.
>>65617145I sell 1 carrier group to each of three different iran-backed militias and go make popcorn
>>65617568>system that fails faster than communismIt'll work this time for sure.
>>65617571It's been working for the PRC since the 1980s.
>>65617522Don't tell me, tell Trump. He doesn't seem to get it.
>>65617573>PRCThey are mixed market authoritarian socialists and no the nazis weren't socialist the first thing they did was privatize banking.
>>65617145I mine their Persian Gulf ports, I mine their Caspian ports, I bomb all of their pipelines leading out of the country, I bomb all of their highways and railways leading out of the country and then mine them and then bomb anyone that tries to clear the mines.There's no need to fight them directly, just give them a chance to put their entirely self sufficient subsistence economy that they pretend to have in practice.
>>65617145Expend all munitions on israeli cities, then kamikaze the jets into whatever left is standing.Ejected pilots use their parachutes to smother anyone wearing a kippa.Throttle the carriers at full speed onto israeli beachfront properties. Set all onboard nuclear reactors to critical, and let them blow.
>>65617580*rolls*Speedboat launches continue. There are no significant pipelines. Caspian mining successful. Roads and rail lines are temporarily interdicted, but road craters are filled and new rails are lain. Land mines cause some losses to transport, but not enough to significantly affect shipping. Due to the need to keep the fleet in the Arabian sea for force protection and launching from Jordan and Israel, loiter time over Iran is reduced to the point that constant patrols to prevent mine clearance is unsuccessful. 3 MQ-9's lost. No manned aircraft shot down. 7 aircraft in Jordan damaged by cluster bomb ballistic missiles.
>>65617623>Speedboat launches continue to do nothing. There are no significant pipelines left. Caspian mining successful. Roads and rail lines are temporarily interdicted, but road craters are filled and new rails are lain, before being destroyed again days later.ftfy
>>65617167If you do literally nothing executive lift sanctions and otherwise ignore them the regime will fall within ten years as the middle class grows. Then companies move in to invest in their natural resources, these are mostly western companies. There isn't really a nuclear weapon program (or wasn't before the war) and i doubt if anyone would care about drones and SRBMs if the atarollah was gone. Literally doing nothing would have been the more effective strategy
>>65617269>let them take out every oil rig off the coast of Florida.Oil drilling off the Florida coast has been illegal since the early 1970s retard. There are no wells off the Florida coast
>>65617636>There isn't really a nuclear weapon program (or wasn't before the war)That's the true irony of this clusterfuck, Iran only kept a tiny enrichment program as leverage but now they would be crazy not to build the bomb.
>>65617636>If you do literally nothing executive lift sanctions and otherwise ignore them the regime will fall within ten years as the middle class growsDo you actually believe this?
>>65617630*player banned for not following DM rules and instruction* *rolls* Speedboat launches continue but are largely ineffective in interdicting US protected shipping, though several tankers are lost. Back and forth damage and repair to roadways and rail lines continues. 1 manned aircraft shot down over Iran this round. Pilot status unknown. Several score ballistic missiles strike Saudi and gulf state oil and critical infrastructure. WTI oil hits $137bbl. US diesel national average @ $7.89.
>>65617578Uh oh. The 'Nazis were socialist' crowd won't like this fact and evidence.
>>65617675It's crazy to me how many people still believe 90 year old propaganda that the German people knew was bullshit 85 years ago.The nazis pretended to be socialist to get support then sold the country to the rich.That said the same people falling for that today were told 3 years ago there would be no new wars, the Epstein files would be fully released and corruption would end in DC.
>>65617269I for one support the Cuban operation to rid Florida of the gusano plague. Viva la Revolution, Viva Che, and Viva El Jefe.
I like how the "Iran war is going fine" crowd points to the completely fucked oil market as proof.
>>65617697It's a massive psychosis of boomers and terminal contrarians unable to accept they are retarded and voted for a demented pedophile with a spray tan. Sure, the bread and circuses are definitely the best they've ever been, but ain't shit gonna be funny when millions of people are kicked off thier healthcare plans and red states are no longer able to offset higher gas prices with tax holidays.
>>65617650Internal security is always the most dangerous threat to a regime, not outside attack, especially a country with such defensible terrain as Iran. The threat being greatest from within is obvious, Iran itself being a case study in that. The Shah had the best military in the middle east and it didn't prevent his regime from falling, did it?
>>65617145Can't. Defies basic military science and common sense.
>>65617667>striking Iran's borders would somehow result in greater losses and greater Iranian response than striking critical infrastructure deep within Iranian territoryI bomb your railroading, too.
>>65617713"What do you mean gas being $9 per gallon is bad despite the US only getting a fraction of its oil through Hormuz?"
>>65617716The regime already overthrew the middle class that existed under the Shah and then spent decades suppressing it from reforming.
>>65617716You didn't even both to defend the original point
>>65617725That would seem to not line up with the increasing size and intensity of protests over the last ten years, by the middle class. Removing the threat of attack and sanctions undercuts the credibility of the ayatollahs as the "great satan" just becomes a random far away country. Without that external threat and the impoverishment of sanctions, the regime has a hard time justifying its existence and spending priorities.
>>65617713>voted for a demented pedophileThat's Biden. Trump is the man that saved us from the Biden regime.
>>65617650Bringing down the Berlin Wall is all it took to collapse the Soviet bloc
>>65617736I wonder what Israel would do if the US just left Iran alone.I know it's in their best interests geopolitically to let it deradicalize but domestically any leader that kills muslims wins elections so I could see them still starting shit.>>65617738Anon, hear me out, what if all senile pedos are bad leaders.
>>65617726I said what strategy would actually work to achieve said objectives, or obviate the need for them. Then explained why. Not sure why you're having such a difficult time understanding it, regardless of if you agree or not.
>>65617722"Petroleum is globally traded" : rightoids :: "per capita" : blacks
>>65617721It's in line with the reality of the war so far. Though the missile spam would probably come earlier. Like immediately.
>>65617746You didn't actually explain why a larger middle class would result in the regime falling.
>>65617754NTA but historically when people stop worrying about their next meal they start getting high minded ideas about freedom.
>>65617743Admitting the other side's demented retard is easy, but admitting your own side's?
>>65617757Not really. The middle class tend to be very invested in the current system, and have a lot to lose and not much to gain. The upper class has a lot to lose, but also a lot to gain. The lower class has nothing to lose. The middle class has something to lose, and no real chance to gain.
>>65617770The growing middle class doesn't start a revolution they have a few protests and the leader has to either kill productive citizens or give a little.Generally they give a little, then give a little more then die of old age and the new guy gives even more.When everyone is poor as shit you can kill them without hurting the economy, when they start being educated enough for the middle class killing them risks Pol Potting your country.
>>65617155Their government. Neither Bibi nor Eisenkot can form a government without going either to the other guys' coalition or roping in the arab parties somehow. It's an absolute shitshow.
>>65617754>>65617770Its less about the middle class itself (although that's a big part of it) and more about the growth of it, which begins introducing structures and resources that are able to resist the goverment, while seeming aspirational and achievable to the lower class, which currently are the base of power for the regime. So it undermines the power base of the regime while setting up the skeleton of an alternative arrangement. The tipping point is when the desire for more prosperity overtakes fear of goverment reprisal over a large enough section of the population. Major reason why the USSR fell, for example, although there were other factors in that case.
>>65617786Tough scene. I wish Israel a very happy die.
>>65617786They should have a civil war about it, then I could feel good about sending arms there.
>>65617276Dude, two MEUs aren't enough boots on teh ground to take Tehran, let alone the whole damn country. Even doing it zigger style would likely just end in thsoe Marines getting butchered trying to take a few blocks while getting swarmed by iranian militias and IRGC
>>65617161>I mean bombing bridges, powerplants, key infrastructure sites etc. is the winning method. And also not avaiable because iranian retaliation in kind will collapse the whole region, and that's an instant loss condition for the US.>>65617162Forget the oil ports and refineries. They'd hit the desalination plants and then the Gulf countries would literally implode wholesale becuse that's a large amjortiy fo their freshwater supply fucked.Those oil ports and refineries are gonna be pretty useless when the workforce running them is going to be busy fleeing the countries and/or dying from thirst.
>>65617538Well, yes. Iran in fact remain capable of pursuing its strategic goals, while the US has shown no way to reach it's own. In fact, it sure looks like the US lost, and at this point has even given up trying to fight beyond making shit up on social media while Iran owns the strait.
>>65617554Correct. Brent Crude is at $116.24 as of right now.
>>65617580Well, you just failed your objectives. Can't take their oil when you just bombed every way to get it out. Also they bombed the gulf states into collapse, so now you don't get any oil or fertilizer from there for the next 20+ years, either. Oh, and the IRGC are still in charge, just now of a warlord state instead of a functioning nation. So you also failed that part of the assignment.
>>65617827>Also they bombed the gulf states into collapseNo
>>65617778Yeah, except Iran isn't inherently poor because of mismanagement. It is poor because of an open conspiracy by the US, Israel, and Gulf Coast to starve them into civil war because they're psychotic haters. The external factors aren't a scapegoat the way they might be for Kim Jong Il's North Korea.
>>65617787Have you been asleep for the 21st century? The dream making everyone to rich, fat, and happy to bother with repression or war is dead.
>>65617815>Owning the Strait means being unable to export or import through it.I never get tired of Iran "winning". Iranians on the other hand aren't doing well.
>>65617833Sorry, but denial won't rebuild those desalination plants, nor get rid of the millions fleeing the Gulf states ahead of the incoming mass deaths from collapse of the potable water supply.
>>65617840>coming So it didn't happen
>>65617837Yeah I know about the endless economic warfare against every country that doesn't let Blackrock & Goldman Sachs own everything.
>>65617839>owning the straits means being able to project power into itFTFY. Which Iran is doing, and the USN is failing abysmally at right now. Seethe more about it. Hence the cope "blockade" hundreds of miles outside of the strait aka as close as US ships dare get to it nowadays.>I never get tired of Iran "winning". Neither do the Iranians it seems.>Iranians on the other hand aren't doing well.Well, they sure seem to be doing better than the global oil market outside of your delusions. And a hell of a lot better than the failing US war effort. Unsurprisingly, given that at this point said US war effort is basically just you impotently screeching on a mongolian basket weaving forum, while the USN hasn't dared get anywhere near the strait in weeks.
>>65617844NTA but it's not going to happen because Trump isn't going to hit a heap of Iranian power plants.It's very simple>Trump threatens to take out all Irans power plants>Iran threatens to talk out all the desal plants>Trump doesn't do shit and stops talking about hitting the power plants
>>65617844It did in fact happen in response to your infrastructure bombing. The desalination plants are rubble, and that means the water supply for the Gulf states collapses and nobody can stop it. Seethe more about it.
>>65617850I don't remember the Gulf States collapsing
>>65617851You don't remember Iranian drone and missile strikes causing so much damage that Trump was forced to declare a unilateral cease fire? That was only in April ffs.
Wdym unconditional support was not enough? If more shilling won't solve it then there's only one thing left to do with /k/opers. Draft and send /k/opers to go die for Israel
>>65617854>says /k/oper>doesn't like IsraelI'm confused, I though you were all MIGA.
>>65617550>America makes 5.2 million barrels diesel a day>America uses 3.8 million barrels of diesel a day>America exposts 1.4 million barrels of diesel a day>Still expensive as HellMake it make (((sense)))
>>65617853That doesn't sound like the Gulf States collapsed
>>65617864Oil is traded as a commodity? Sorry you were too retarded to get into college.
>>65617864>privtate for profit corps want to maximize profit>capitalist politicians are unwilling to interfere in the free market>oil corps charge global price domesticallyIf only there were economic systems that allowed the government to overrule business interests for the economic health of the nation.
>>65617566>>65617567I 100% support it in this case, and I'm the anon constantly saying commies and leftists in general are not human beings.I hate bankers and brokers too.
>>65617876>I 100% support it in this caseThen you are a market interventionalist making you economically left, welcome comrade.
>>65617876Just with this short partial description of your beliefs I can already envisage what you look like.
>>65617876>It's only communism when i don't like itLadies, gentlemen, and t-girls of /k/, the American education system.
>>65617871Oil that is produced domestically, meaning it is a collective American strategic asset. Once oil companies have made enough to recoup their leasing, investment, infrastructure overhead and still are making a profit, they shouldn't be able to rape regular Americans for a daily necessity.That is unAmerican, immoral and should be illegal.And Wall Street as a whole should just be nuked.
>>65617884Go easy on the kid, many can't learn what the left want until it effects them personally.Now we just need him to have a medical bankruptcy.
>>65617886Most Americans don't even comprehend what communism is, they just look at basic centrist concepts like public transportation or universal healthcare and go full McCarthy.
>>65617884And I am sure your ignorant biased, presumption is wrong.t. Benches 2pl8 for reps and rides MtB, no tattoos.
>>65617889How would a medical bankruptcy not push a person farther left?
I'm still voting republican. Fuck off.
>>65617894That's my point.Fuel is expensive enough he now supports market intervention and regulation, if he goes $300k into the hole with medical bills he'll suddenly support socialised healthcare.
>>65617889I love how you guys have been tipping your hand this whole time
>>65617888>That is unAmerican, immoral and should be illegal.You're soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo close to getting it.
>>65617864Easy. The rest of the world imports oil and American oil could be sold overseas instead of to Americans if it was vastly more profitable to do so. The simple solution would be to slap a 20% export tariff on petroleum products, which would make it far more profitable to market those products within the US and thus keep prices down for Americans.
>>65617902I want to afford a house and that's only happening with leftist economics.
>>65617891You needn't be lanky or fat to be a chud.
>>65617909Lol
>>65617912>median income $74,00>median rent $37,000>median house price $1,100,000Shit sucks.
>>65617854>tee-hee, I'm an obnoxious outsider! Are you mad?Yes. You win, I guess.
>>65617920>Average age of first time buyers is 40>Average age of total buyers is 59Daily reminder that boomers and xoomers sold their children's and grandchildren's future down the road for cheap money and a cozy retirement by cruising on home equity.
>>65617910>Caucasian>Hero>Undermining>DegeneracyThanks.
>>65617897Voting for el-Sayed mainly because the jews hate him.
>>65617948Not an acronym, my little Stormfront enjoyer.
>>65617888Maybe lefties do have a point about capitalism
>>65617957Trump crashed the market (multiple times) just to make a profit, that's the opposite of communism.
>>65617901I am that anon. I don't support socialized health care unless you volunteer or work a minimum amount of hours. And then it should be the absolute most basic and people can buy supplemental on the private market.Foodstamps should be reformed to be like WIC.>healthy staples only, emphasis on generic or local brands.And anyone who has not paid income, business or property taxes in 2 of the last 4 years should not be allowed to vote in federal election. 24th Amendment is bullshit. You also should need to show government ID and speak basic English.Online and mail-in voting is also bullshit, except in certain circumstances, like oil rig worker and deployed military.
>>65617907I'd vote for this. Make it 25%
>>65617953It literally is, my terminally online yet wildly ignorant societal inferior.>Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground DwellersAnd I don't eat people, only because it is illegal.
>>65617957It'll always be funny to me Trump nationalized 10% of Intel, he doesn't have any idiology at all and I doubt he understands a single economic theory.>>65617964Do you know the US spends more tax dollars per capita on healthcare than any other country?You pay more right now than if it was fully tax funded because you aren't just paying for the overheads but the profits too.
>>65617897>Heh, I'll surely own the libs THIS time by electing AIPAC's choiceNot everyone enjoys sucking jew cock like you do. Good for you I guess?
>>65617888CHECKED Fuck big oil>>65617902>Ohhh no, they hold a different opinion on a certain issue than me!Get fucked. Right wing means individualism. Anarchy is as far right as you can get.
I stand with Israel.
>>65617974But anon, how would we be able to fund the new United Healthcare CEO's custom G Wagon if healthcare was was socialized?
>>65617149i to bomb the shit out of Israel so hard that it becomes a country known as Aintnomoresreal
>>65617968It doesn't need to be very high at all. The way commodity markets work is that if supply drops even 1% below the fixed demand, prices will increase by many times very quickly. A 20% tax on exports would reduce prices for American consumers by much more than 20%.
>>65617974There is another spending issue that pisses me off more.We are mandated to give them $3,800,000,000, MINIMUM, annually, just in military funds. Why not jusy buy those weapons for ourselves? I want to see military spending at 5% of GDP and enlisted pay raised by 30% to attract better candidatea.
>>65617989Is it the left or the right that is calling out Israel?
>>65617989Apologies, rushing before mods pull the plug.
>>65617989>>65618002Your points stands either way, remember that the MSM hates those that hate Israel so look for who they are attacking and why.
>>65618001Both, on the far sides. I believe the left is doing it under the impression jews are White though and they are adeaid or ignorant to call them out in all sectors>banking>real estate>Hollywood>medical field>higher education>encouraging immigration
>>65618001To be fair to Rtards, the top echelon of the Ds are just as kiked out as they are. It's two wings of the same shitbird, and the goyim opinion box isn't going to do shit about it. .
>>65618007Every field you listed has been broken by the profit motive.Yes it's the jews but just because the jews like money and if you get rid of the jews there are plenty of Whites willing to kill their own for a dollar.>>65618008The DSA gives me hope, they have the corpo dems scared they are losing control.
>>65617964>Foodstamps should be reformed to be like WIC.>healthy staples only, emphasis on generic or local brands.No, this is stupid. I agree that niggers spending their food stamps on soda and chips is less than ideal, but the more that you try to micromanage how benefits are used, the greater the amount of overhead and waste. If you really want to force people on food stamps to not use them on anything unhealthy, you could get rid of the money entirely and just ship them boxes of fresh produce. But this is a far greater logistical load than simply moving money between accounts, and will result in far greater waste when people refuse to eat the kale and beets in their produce boxes.
>>65618017The jews it explicitly use them for propaganda and demographic change though. And the left, such as commies, feminists, and LGBTQ would be far smaller and less influential without jews running the show.
>>65618021I refuse to believe WIC is more wasteful than SNAP. And shipping food straight too them incurs transportation costs and would probably result in even more wasted food.
>>65617849Even if he did, the nexy administration would end up paying for replacements.
>>65618025>demographic changeMass immigration isn't some great conspiracy it's simply flooding the labor market to increase supply driving down labor costs.Once again the capitalists influencing policy to increase profits.>And the left, such as commies, feminists, and LGBTQ would be far smaller and less influential without jews running the show.Everything you listed except commies is IDpol bullshit used by the media to distract you from the economic policies destroying the west.
>>65618033I honestly feel bad for the next POTUS, to quote Lisa Simpson they inherited quite a mess from President Trump.The only way to end Iran without another Afghanistan is to drop sancitons and pay reparations to restore free passage, the MSM will beat the shit out of them for this because Israel wants total war but it's the only realistic option.
>>65617864>jew hater is oblivious to basic economicsMany such cases!
>>65618042What is certain is that Iran will not accept anything other than a favorable deal lest they get rocked by mass protests for not achieving something worth all of the destruction and suffering.
>>65618052They might accept some concessions if they can build the bomb but that might be too much for AIPAC to accept.The biggest issue will be free passage because if the precedent is set you can close a shipping lane then tax it forever global trade is in danger of a half dozen countries ending it at any moment.
>>65618042Another Afghanistan would unironically be a better outcome than that for the US even if Israel didn't exist. The only clean way out of this shitshow is to invent a time machine and find a way to get a candidate with an IQ over 100 nominated for the 2024 presidential election.
>>65618062Afghanistan cost $2.26 trillion, the only way paying is worse is the ego hit.
