>no one sells a falling block or martini henry action in 20 gauge with a rifled barrel that's not like $7,000this is suffering
I'd like a rolling block 10-Gauge shotgun, so I know how you feel.If you wanted to get into metalworking though, these would be fairly simple guns to make.
>>65618688snca awardmaverick 88 mogs
>>65618746Fugg, now I want one too.
>>65618747I have a 500. I want a falling block or martini slug gun
>>65618688OK well have more money or stop wanting stupid shit. I was going to say "stop wanting dumb range toys" but you probably don't shoot your guns so there's not even a theoretical problem beyond you being unworthy of credit.
>>65619055it's a hunting shotgun you gay retard
>>65619060No it isn't because you don't own it so it's theoretical. Post your current hunting shotgun and your location.
>>65619071mossberg 500 and NJ, fatso
>>65619082>Similar gay limitations to TexasInteresting, so you miss often enough for the action to matter?
>>65618688Just make one yourself you lazy bastard.
>>65619094a falling block has fewer shots than a mossberg, fatso
>>65619126And?
>>65618688yeah, of course not. Why the fuck would they? If you're going to sell literally one gun, it's gotta be priced accordingly.
>>65619132so missing would be worse, fatso
>>65619140>missing would be worseWell it kind of sounds like you're already hitting nothing so is the point of the falling block to (((aura farm))) or what?
>>65619149it's because falling blocks are cool, fatso
>>65619153OK well have more money or stop wanting stupid shit.
>>65619179go on a diet
>>65618688>"Old designs that need lots of craftsmanship and hand fitting are more expensive than new designs that are completely made by machine and then assembled."Yeah dude.
>>65620172old design>sovlnew design>sovlless
>>65620179Then pay for what its worth.
>>65620180good morning, saar!
>>65619060>Wants to "hunt" with some bullshit gigaboomer larp pipeLmao you're a joke, get a job
>>65620204The people telling you to pay a fair price for a well-made product are Jeets? That would imply that your stingy ass is lower than a Jeet if you wouldn't do such a thing.
>>65619189Stop wanting stupid shit.
>>65620209>hates gunsyou are gay and yuropean>>65620212no, I'm saying you're clearly ESL>>65620264go on a diet
>>65620320I could quit drinking beer and be thin in a year but I won't so next year I'll still be fat and you'll still be poor but I'll have the guns that I want and I'll revel in my corpulence as I shoot them while you frogpost and seethe.
Yeah that would be pretty cool. I wouldn't mind one in 22lr.
>>65620335you won't have any guns because you're a fat alcoholic and you live in yurop and yurop bans guns>>65620343same
>>65620351>you live in yuropYou should've just stuck with fat. Either that or gone to work.
>>65620411why would I go to work at 6pm, you fat retard?
>>65618746Is there actually money in gunsmithing, or is it just a meme?
>>65620415I just meant in general today. Someone else made a post around 3 and you responded in 5 minutes, I don't think you have a job.
Essentially every gun sold now is either a cookie cutter AR or bolt action rifle.
>nobody makes some obscure hyperspecifically configured obsolete meme gun>spergs out the entire thread Only neurotypicals should be allowed to own firearms
>>65620844Bro, how the fuck would fortune tellers be able to sustain any amount of a firearms industry? Thinks before you post.
I never understood the 7000 guns. At some point it is cheaper to just build your own,even with buying a pile of tools. Like an entire industrial metal lathe is like 3k. Where is that money going.
>>65618688Buy a smokeless-rated Greener GP (or one of their terrible police guns) with a pitted barrel for <$500, pay to have it sleeved down to 20g and grind off the stupid prongs on the firing pin if it's a police gun. You might need to solder a modified feed ramp on the block and throw a new extractor in it. Congrats, you now have a 20g Martini that can handle steel shot>but that's still expensiveThen get a 12g one, they're shockingly cheap if you lurk and the ammo's cheaper too
>>65621095This. You can have some muzzleloader autist make you a completely custom gun with hand tools from raw castings and a board of walnut for $4-6k tops. Even a fukken 8 gauge with silver furniture. There's no reason anything factory made should cost more than that
>>65620441>he doesn't post at workyou're fat, gay and yuropean>>65620844>obscure>hyperspecificruger number 1s retard>>65621134it would be slugs, not shot
>>65621650>ruger no 1Not mentioned in the OP, also never offered in 20 ga, because the action is too small to fit it, so you couldnt even rebarrel oneBuy a NEF tracker in 20 gauge and it fills the exact same niche that you want. There's a reason falling/tilting block shotguns are rare: its wholly unnecessary to have an action that strong for the relative low pressure of even magnum shotgun cartridges.
>>65621755>not mentioned in OP a ruger no 1 is a type of falling block. There are multiple different falling blocks. the 1885 winchester isn't the only falling block. technically the martini isn't the only type of martini action since it's based on the peabody>NEF tracker>break actionfucking gross and disgusting you autistic retard
>>65618767No you don't, you just want to act like a hipster but are too much of a poorfag to actually be one
>>65621855>I want a 20ga single shot slug gun that isnt a 7k custom>ew no not like thatThen you dont deserve one :^) enjoy being a poorfag.
>McDonald's employee cries about some larp shit he'll never do with a gun he'll never afford so we get to watch him piss his panties and cry for 3 days
>>65621891I don't work at mcdonalds I work at Taco Bell
>>65620422It’s all a meme and a waste of time unless you’re Hamilton Bowen tier
>>65621861why wouldn't I have a mossberg? it's the most commonly owned shotgun, retardo>>65621881>>65621891>>65621913>I want a nice looking gun with a cool action>buy this ugly piece of shit with a gay action>oy vey you must not like guns if you won't buy this ugly shitty gunnot today, schlomo
>>65621942pic or GTFO poorfag
>>65621942>I want a nice gun with this kind of action but I am neither willing nor able to procure one, wahhhhhh
>>65621951>>65621954I ALREADY HAVE A MOSSBERG YOU STUPID BASTARDI want a new gun not whatever mutt slop bullshit you're shilling
>>65621973you aren't me, retardo. yurop is third world. >>65621951I'll post it when I get home>>65621954>just make your own falling blockretard
>>65621977>I am John burger from Mexican oblast and will post guns when I get home cumrade trustI should've known from the start, fuck off zegro spammer
Lmao shotguns are boomer shit and a rolling block is some turbo giga euro boomer fag shit. You're a fag OP lol
>>65621977quit impersonating me you retard>>65621985off topic>>65622006kys poorfag tastelet
>>65622032>t.retardjust get a new barrel for whatever mossberg shitrod you have
>>65618746Well lets see, like $5k for these https://www.dmingfurnace.com/products/small-induction-melting-furnace/and another god knows what to cast ingots, then about $3k for the shittiest mill that works...$10k probably all told.
>>65621755>its wholly unnecessary to have an action that strong for the relative low pressure of even magnum shotgun cartridgesHow much pressure would be needed to justify the use of the mechanism?
>>65621985I'm not mexican, you retarded third worlder>>65622006>falling block>rolling block>the same thing>rolling block>yuropoor shityou're retarded
>>65622105hh I get it now, you can't own guns in shitskinistan so you're forced to use some obscure fuddslop to get around the law. fucking grim kek
>>65622105Literally who gives a fuck about manual action shit, just get an AR and fuck off already>>65622115>Calls other people brown>Can't into grammar and spellingI think you're both niggers desu
>>65622006>>65622115>>65622121I have an AR, you gay retard. you can't hunt birds and durr with an AR in my state, you gay retard
>>6562208850k psi
>>65622564You can get a semi-auto BAR in .300 Win Mag.
>>65622060Replace $5k induction furnace with $300 jailbreaked microwave. Replace God knows what with $10 of sand. Replace metal lathe with Dremel
>>65621650>it would be slugs, not shotCool. My brother in Gun Jesus, they're still straight-up Martinis balanced and ready for wing shooting. Try for a GP mk 3. This one went for less than $350, I've seen case-hardened and colored examples come under 500 with minimal wear. Sleeving a 12g profile to 20 is relatively foolproof and a hell of a lot cheaper than trying to rebarrel completely. The gun IS a massive pig to stack up right when you're setting the block up after a full teardown, though.
>>65623478wait, is greener still making martinis?
>>65624019Not still, to my knowledge, but they made them into the 1970s and the guns crop up all the time at auction. Unfortunately an import firm converted a bunch of them to .38spl blank-fired harpoon guns back in the 60s, one of which got used in Jaws. So they occasionally get bubba'd into prop guns.
>>65618688>in 20 gauge...but why would you?
>>65621134/thread, Greeners are ~$1k>>65621650>it would be slugs, not shotYou're point?
>>65628174slugs don't need steel shot>>6562766220 gauge slugs drop less and have more energy down range than 12 gauge slugs due to having less wind resistance. the only advantage 12 gauge has for durr is install base and it might have more shell options
>>65627662Sabot slug deer hunting.>>65628229The difference in external ballistics between high test sabot slugs in 12 and 20 gauge is really quite smaller that the magazine writers imply(except for recoil).I have a Savage 212 bolt, the actual difference in MPBR between 12 and 20 gauge Trophy Copper sabot slugs is under 5 yards.
>>65628229>slugs don't need steel shotNo, but that's one of the possible advantages of sleeving the barrel on an older gun. If you're only planning on doing slugs, you can have the sleeve threaded for a modern choke standard and pop in a cheap Mossie rifled choke instead
>>65632396I would want the whole barrel rifled, not just the choke. I already have a mossberg 12 gauge so I don't need to shoot any type of shot through a dedicated slug gun
>>65622121>>65622115>>65621985>>65621951eat shit, yurotranny
>>65628592I like the idea of the 12-Gauge rifled slugger.Just sending the biggest and fattest slug out there with fine precision.
>>65634082there's no reason to use a 12 gauge slugger over a 20 gauge. the only advantage a 12 gauge has is there's a higher availability of loads, like how there are more 12 gauge shot loads than 16 gauge. and like if you have a 12 gauge mossberg already and just need to get a second barrel. for a stand alone slug gun a 20 gauge is better. it will have the same energy and terminal effectiveness, but with a lighter gun and/or lower recoil
>>65634108>it will have the same energy and terminal effectivenessProve this, please.
>>65634387I guess I was wrong about the energy, but whatever, 20 gauge is just as effective on durrhttps://www.themeateater.com/hunt/firearm-hunting/hunting-whitetail-with-a-shotgun-rifled-slugs-vs-sabots
>>65634870Well, obviously, but you can hunt deer with .410 shotguns, .357 revolvers, and .223 rifles, so on that point it just kinda comes down to what you want exactly (as well as the size of deer, admittedly).Besides that, you might want to thump wild hogs, in which case a heavy 12-Gauge slug that's accurate at long range can be especially suitable, those fuckers are tough.
why would you waste a falling block action on a fucking 20 gauge? give me a farquharson action in 470 nitro.
>>65634930I think you need a different slug anyway. Like I guess for rifled slugs don't you need the hard cast shit for hogs but you don't need hard cast for durr?>>65634939cause gay ass shotgun only hunting state
>>65634939Because bigger bullet.
for what purpose?
>>65621650>he doesn't post at workYeah I'm white. I work when I'm at work.
>>65638677you sound like you have a minimum wage job, fatso
>>65621985You will never belong here, tourist scum.
>>65632396Rifled chokes are a half-assed solution.
>>65638726I make above the median US wage.I don't post on 4chan unless I'm at home on my PC like God intended.
>>65640177you don't make above minimum wage, fatsoI will stop using 4chan at work, when work starts paying as much as it paid the boomers and stops being a jewish daycare program to prevent White women from having kids
>>65640177no you don't, fatso
LMAO schizo doublepost.
>>65645754you mad, fatso?
>>65620422I did it for 15 years, it's sort of a meme. You can make money, but you need a big population in the vicinity, your average gun owner won't pay for gunsmithing. You aren't going to be building guns all that often, and honestly building guns takes up time that is better used on repairs. Repairing guns is where money is made, but you've gotta be quick and get it right.I was making about 125k a year when I quit 4 years ago. I averaged about 10 guns across my bench every day. I loved the job but I couldn't take living in the city anymore. I took a huge pay cut and moved back to my home town and I couldn't be happier. I've tried smithing in my home town, but only about 40,000 people live within 100 miles and I'm lucky if I see 10 guns a month.
