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Only the FB Radom AKs are worth considering if you really want 5.56x45 NATO
the SAM5 is pretty good, but if you have to choose I would go for a beryl instead
>>65632730>74MClose enough. >>65632737Wrong.
>>65632730I sent my Waffen Werks AK-74 to an AK smith to have it demilled and the parts transferred over to a new 4.5mm folding receiver with an AK Builder chrome lined 5.56 barrel to replace the 5.45 one since 5.45 is all but dead except for the random $500 - $550 tin I find on TexasGunTrader. Now I'll actually get to shoot it more than once a year.
>>65632730Luv me AK100s
>>65632783
>>65632783Same
>>65632737i thought zpap m90 was ok?
>>65632815It is. He’s just shilling the Beryl for some reason.
Anon’s absolutely raped Romanian kit should get to me by Monday. I’m excited to see what exactly the butcher that got ahold of it last did to the barrel.
>>65632816POLSKA STRONK
>>65633037Then why are WBP 5.56 AKs so shit?
For some reason I am craving polymer furniture
>>65633285I like my polymer furniture. What are you putting it on?
>>65633292Debating on whether to go wood or polymer for my m70 but it doens't look like there's many options for polymer
>>65632730Century won.
>>65633541The Most IEDs Made Award(tm)
>>65633403There’s the rubber hogue stuff if you’re fine with rubber
So what is the likelihood that foreign ammo imports will be axed with the democrats in control? I'm thinking of getting into AKs (in 7.62x39) but I'm concerned about ammo availability.
>>65634620Close to zero.
>>65634620there is plenty of 7.62x39 ammo out there, though it isn't as cheap as it used to be for sure. need to wait for the war in Ukraine to end before the prices might come down. AKs are fun though, so just accept that ammo has a cost.
>>65634626>>65634636Sounds good, I might pull the trigger then. I already have some zenitco furniture I bought a few years ago.
>>65634671What Zenitco furniture do you have?
>>65634700B33 dustcover, B10M lower handguard and B19. I kind of wish I had bought a longer upper/lower handguard set, but I guess the B10M might be good because it saves on weight.
I want to hate it but... it's useful
>>65634704Damn, you went all out on furniture before you got the rifle? What rifle are you looking at?>>65634707You don’t like the side rail?
>>65634744I actually have both the gas tube rail and side mount on my ak right now because I can't decide what I want to do. But it's kinda nice for throwing a flashlight on the gas tube rail while my dot goes on the side rail. Just looks a little fugly.
>>65634744I'm looking at a used SGL21, I don't want to spend more than about $2500 on it.
>>65634753I like my RS Regulate barrel mount for a light. I probably will use an ultimak when I build an AK for my brother. >>65634818That’s definitely the gun to get if you can swing it. There’s one on Combloc Market now for around that.
>>65632739>the SAM5 is pretty goodliterally the worst import 5.56 AK but go off
>>65634885you're a gay pedophile suck my cockhow about that bud
>>65634753Too bad these have become unobtanium. Much cleaner solution to mounting a flashlight than a ultimak.
>>65634911Don’t get mad at me, get mad at whoever convinced you to spend $2k on an overgassed, milled gun that beats itself to death. >>65634913I can’t believe nobody makes a clone of it.
These are still the best way to mount a light. You can have whatever classic AKM/74 furniture you want on it
>>65635008they are half the price of an Ultimak without making it look fugly and also make a Yugo version for the M70
>>65632730Hwo is this sexy woman? she should use INSAS though, higher development of AK design
>>65634913O damn.>>65635008I'm seriously considering this.
>>65635034I have opened this thread just because of her like ten times and haven't otherwise engaged with its contents almost at all.
>>65634913I have one of these and they're a bit suboptimal for mounting things because they're a little wobblyt. Euro who bought in the brief period in 2020-22 when they were imported againBut: it doesn't matter that much. My friend mounted a visible laser on it for a match and if you forcibly bend it as much as you can, the zero will be off by about a foot at 100m
>Want to build an AK>Don't want to buy all the tools/jigs/sacrificial chickens to since I'd need to buy and build multiple AKs to offset the cost>Also don't want to send it off to a builder since I am both cheap and would like the experience of actually building a rifle rather than just being a home armorer like with an AR or FAL 'build'I wish I had firearm autist frens irl I could have a build party with. You guys are the closest I got to that.
>>65635354Are you the guy who had the Romanian kit?
>>65635348We want them to put lights on. >t. burger
>>65635365No a retard who wants a Franken Yugo made from the milled M70 parts (they have them listed as M64s) kits PSA has and the populated M70 barrel 'kit' from RTI
>>65635367Should work OK for lights I guess, but there are better solutions
>>65635354>offset the costForget about that. Stop thinking like a jew. Build guns for fun, not "profit" you wouldnt be able to make if the tools were free anyway
>>65634636>need to wait for the war in Ukraine to end before the prices might come downdo anons really think that cheap eastern bloc ammo is every coming back?
>>65635381Why? The RTI kit has literally everything except furniture and receiver. And its cheap as fuck wtf im buying three
>>65635579Oh wait nvm no bolt or carrier
>>65635110>>65635008HOSE CLAMPS, ZIP TIES, AND ELECTRICAL TAPE BEAT THAT IN THE VIBES DEPARTMENT JB WELD TOO
>>65635579np king>>65635574Money isn't exactly an unlimited commodity for me along with physical space fren. Also Germany might have done a bit better in WWII if they kept a few Jews around to maintain their books. Just sayin.
>>65635575we can hope, right?
Has anybody ever bought from NSPEC Innovations, are they legit? I'm considering buying a zenitco sport 4 handguard (https://nspecinnovations.com/zenitco-sport-4-black/) from them. It says the items are located in Austin Texas, so it shouldn't be evading sanctions.
Is akoptionsllc legit?
>>65636621They’re good to go
>>65636301Right but to build an ak you need like $500 in tools tops and youre set for life. Thats fukken chicken shit money I've had to spend more than that on some bullshit special torque wrench before
>>65636621yes
>>65636998>>65636698thanks bros. time to buy me some furniture.
>>65632730>74M editionClose enough
Can't tell if this looks disgusting or beautiful
Saiga pattern mount came in from Belarus. The height is actually very tolerable, borderline comfortable and it’s much easier to switch to irons.Does anyone know if IWA international is still working on a GP25 lookalike?
>>6563803710/10 stalker clone. By the end of next week I should have my Saiga conversion turned into a Metro clone. Where did you order the mount from?
>>65638087East Wave. It took maybe 3 weeks or so but 100% worth it. I’m currently trying to work out a time with a fella in my area to 3D scan my double stack Makarov grip to clone the SoC grip. I’m tempted to clone the Luftgarde from the new DLC with a G3 kit next.
>>65637683Looks better than Ethiopian furniture.
>>65637683it's both
>>65638137Based. I’ve been lobbying for Kommandostore to do a gorka in Monolith camp for years.
Anons who bought an AR, then an AK and realized the AK was better/more fun/superior; why and how did you come to that conclusion?My AR is ok I guess. I just can’t help but to feel like I would somehow be happier with an AK. Idk. It’s probably just like all my other guns. I just get one and wind up barely ever shooting it.If I did get an AK, it would be in 5.56 just cause I have more of that ammo.
>>65639249I was drawn to AKs immediately because they look very beautiful to me. I like ARs too. They are very nice to shoot, especially with a geiselle or larue trigger, but my ZPAPs are more personal to me. Plus I like ergonomics on AKs a tiny bit more. I think you should own both AR and AK. I also think you should shoot your guns more.
>>65639249i grew up with AKs and only got into ARs as an adult. so not so much better or worse, but they're just different flavors. AKs generally have more heft, which some enjoy and some don't. i don't mind. ARs tend to be noticeably lighter, though I've got a Saiga in 5.56 and it's quite light.if you get an AK get one in 7.62x39.
>>65639312i inherited my dad's m70 underfolder. turns out it has a kinda gritty two stage trigger... that is surprisingly awesome. i get along with it great.
>>65639249I always wanted a 5.45 or 5.56 AK as a kid and teenager but by the time I was old enough to buy one Saigas were import banned and Arsenal stamped guns were more expensive than I could afford. I got my dad to buy me an Anderson lower and order me a PSA freedom kit for $400 when I was 17. Since then I’ve had a few other ARs before I wound up getting into AKs. Since actually getting AKs I’ve sold all of my ARs. I have no desire to shoot any non AK semi auto rifle anymore. Make sure you do your research if you get a 5.56 AK, there are a few ways you can go wrong but if you get a good one it’s worth it.
>>65639323Nice.
>>65634983>overgassed, milled gun that beats itself to deathIts been fixed for a while now. Also they were on sale for like $1500 for months.
Has anyone slaved the auto/semi selector on their Beryl or Tantal to the fire selector lever? I'm thinking about doing it so I can have a Galil-like manual of arms but was wondering if anyone has experience with it and thinks its worth it since flipping to safe feels awkward on my mockup.
>>65635365I’m the guy that traded the Romanian kit. Anon told me he was going to send it to a builder.He traded me a flecktarn windbreaker, sleeping bag and 5 Glock mags. Am happy, and windbreaker is comfy.
>>65639312>I also think you should shoot your guns more.I appreciate the kind encouragement anon. You’re right, I do.To quote Garand Thumb->”When you die, everything you own will be thrown away or owned by someone else.”Something along those lines, but true. I’d like to shoot an AK. Maybe it’s not all that anyway.
>>65639544>traded a parts kit for a windbreaker, sleeping bag, and glonk magsbruh
>>65639595Honestly, God bless him. The kit wasn’t perfect, plus I just couldn’t see myself actually building it.
>>65639544Proud of you anon>>65636835Exactly right . I present the stamped yugo rpk reweld.
Lgs has an ATI galil SAR. I've heard their build quality isn't the greatest. Are there any specific things I can look over without tearing the rifle completely apart to determine if the gun will run reliably?
Went shooting yesterday and shot my RAK-74, M90, M70, and Pioneer 556. I had a blast yesterday.
Should I WBP Jack 762SC when Atlantic brings them back in stock? I only have yugos right now and I want some furniture variety in my life.
>>65637683>wartsGross. Give me wood.
>>65639544>there is a sucker born every minute P. T. Barnum
>>65633251Because they are made by WBP, not FB Radom. WBP is a commercial manufacturer.
>>65639544Other guy came put way ahead.
>>65632730Does anyone know if an iglim ak103 BCG will work with an ak74 bolt? Im looking to do an ak102 build and having some trouble confirming they have the same bolt stem diameter.
>>65639842without doing anything to the gun at all you can check all the rivets to make sure they look good and have no gaps. Also check how well the magwell takes whatever mag it comes with and see if the sights look mostly straight>>65639847that does sound like a great time>>65640164yes their 7.62x39 are very good
>>65640189>>65640393Anon who traded for his kit here, I wasn’t trying to low ball him. I was trying to barter for the cheese grater and one of his dust covers but he offered me the whole kit.
>>65640627Yes, they’re both thin stem
>>65640627AK-100 series rifles share 98% parts compatibility for simplification of manufacturing. The difference between the different caliber models is just the bolt itself and the barrel and maybe the muzzle device bore diameter for the 7.62 guns and the small bore ones.
has anyone whaled for one of the MDC guns yet? my state got giga swept so i'm probably gonna grab a 102 before they get banned entirely
>>65641597I don't think it matters what state you live in. I see this carrying on into the next election. Rest of us are just the last decks on the Titanic.
>>65641503Not them, but are IGLIM kits 1:1 100 series?
>>65642201They used the AK-100 TDP but there are some small differences between the level of finish, the Iglim parts are a little more rough. I’d skip out on the trunnions and rivets. The trunnions aren’t countersunk deep enough and they don’t use swell neck rivets. I took some pictures comparing an Iglim rear trunnion (L) to an Izhmash one (R). I used the Iglim parts minus the rear trunnion to convert my Saiga >>65632742. I’d recommend them.
>>65641597Really wanna snag one but funds are tight. Trying to pay off credit card debt to buy a newer car for something lower miles. Would like one of thier 101 clones but probably can't swing it. Hopefully someone will have a high round count review up soon. Maybe AKOU guys or some anon on here.
>>65641597>>65642508I haven’t shot one but as soon as someone buys my Krebs and they come back in stock I’ll get a 102
I know, I'm sorry. It shoots great though.
>>65639689Reweld? Looks good. I did a reweld on a saw cut milled receiver when I had no idea how rare those were. God i fukken butchered it. I ended up selling it out of shame
>>65642817Fagpul CTR is based but isn't that setup really front heavy?
>>65635343I have shamefully been doing the same thing.
Bought a Romeo MSR gen 2 for my TC Contender but found out it sticks too far forward to reach the mounting screws so Swapped it with the 403R off of the SAR-1. And I don't think it looks too bad.
Question for /akg/, if I want to build out a 5.56 ak rifle, can I use the Ak102 barrel from AK builder and the wbp AK 5.56 kit with an AK74 receiver?
>>65643357No, WBP uses 23mm AKM trunnions instead of 22mm AK74 spec for their 5.56 kits because they're gay and retarded.
>>65643357Stop asking us to do your thinking for you. Figure it out
>>65643357It's not going to work out because WBP are vodka monkeys cobbling a 5.56 peashooter out of twisted AKM spec components instead of actual AK-74 spec parts>>65643367This too
soviet arms 300blk krink yeet it or sneed it?
>>65643462Rebranded PSA, junk.
>>65643374Nta, what is inherently wrong with making an "AKM spec" 5.56?
I need to work out my ak is too heavy for me.
>>65643541maybe your ak needs to work out.
>>65643553She's fine. I'm too scrawny.
I want a suppressed krinkov with wood/bakalite furniture for HD. Which caliber is the best blend of reliability, availability, recoil, and noise reduction? Also which brand?
I'm going to get into guns soon ans I'm trying to decide between goin thwbAR route or the AK route. AKs look incredibly cool and just make me happy, but the AR is objectively better on paper and I can'tatgue with /arg/ when they list the myriad ways in which ARs are "better". Convince me to go AK, bros, I really want to.If I were to get an AK it would probably be a used SGL21, I'm willing to spend the money.
>>65644161Fuck my phone, lots of typos.
>>65644030The combination of features you want that isnt a piece of shit is not obtainable on what I can only assume to be an ignorant noguns zoomer budget. Maybe choose something other than a meme gun for home defense
>>65644161go ahead and get that SGL21 if you like; it's a good gun. get it in 7.62x39. when you get the itch again get an AR, either in 5.56 or 7.62x39 or both, to really see if you like an AK over an AR or vise versa.
>>65644161Have you shot either?
>>65644218Yes, I've shot my friend's Daniel Defense block 2 clone and another friend's SAM7sf. The recoil on the SAM7 was a little more pronounced than the AR, but the muzzle brake on the SAM tamed it just fine.>>65644216Yeah I was definitely thinking 7.62x39.
>>65644161Which one are you actually going to train with? Which one is going to make you happy? What are you actually using this for?
>>65644231Eh personally I wouldn't waste the extra money on an SGL. All youre paying for is the "Made in Russia" stamp. I'd just buy a SAM7 and use the $1500+ you'd save on ammo
>>65642849It's not heavier than any of my ARs with suppressors. The rifle itself is already light so it's not an issue.
>>65643462It's a stupid concept. The whole point of 300 BLK is to use the same magazines and lower as your 5.56 AR and suppressing it. You might as well get the 7.62 version. The ammo would be cheaper and you'd get better performance. AKs are bad suppressor hosts so if you plan on suppressing the 300 BLK Krink you'll be didsappointed in the performance.
>>65644235The AK in all likelihood is what I would be training with and would make me more happy. It would also be a cool conversation piece at the range. I would take AK-specific training as well.I would be using it for general shooting/training and HD. There have to be some decent options for defensive rounds in 7.62x39. On that note I would consider having it converted to an AK104 clone for easier HD application, and 7.62x39 would be better out of an SBR according to what I've read.
>>65644250keep the AK for the range and get a pistol for HD
>>65644259Okay, I have a glonk 17. Having a 104 might be cool though.
>>65644259Hmmm today I will use steel core ammo in self defense and blow through the entire block and accidentally kill every single one of my neighbors (this is a joke, I will not do that)
>https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1204780217>SLR107CR and full zenitco furniture (ODG colored) for $4300.Anybody think I could talk this guy down to about $3300?
>>65644215Excuse me for not wanting to see a plastic piece of trash in the corner of my bedroom. I guess I'll do the sensible thing and get an MP5SD clone.
>>65644321Man that's sexy but holy fuck the money
>>65644326Just get an AR :^)
>>65644321i find the colors to be offensive. i'd go get a Valmet for that $3300
>>65644326that's the better idea if you're really wanting to get something for the home
>>65644346>Just get an AR :^)>ARSo what does it smell like when you dilate?
>>65644357I would just rattlecan it anyway. Also, I have a set of black zenitco.
>>65644363nothing wrong with ARs dude. they're everything you'd want in a modern rifle.
>>65644363[spoiler]Just get an AR and a glock :^)[/spoiler]
>>65639689>Proud of you anonThanks, friend.
>>65644363>he's too poor to own both>sour grapes
>>65644326You wont, because youre too poor for even a turkshit clone of an "MP5SD"
I am tempted to get soft points and have a retardedly suboptimal maximum collateral HD weapon
It's time to suppress.I'm looking into getting a can for my 103. Would y'all recommend any .30 can or the Putnik? I don't want to track down a m24x1.5 to hub adapter and possibly a KNS piston, I've read the putnik is very low back pressure. What's your experience with suppressing 7.62x39?
>>65644649The KNS piston isn't always necessary. If your gun isn't overgassed it should be fine.
>>65632775I have been dreaming about doing that with my ww 74 how much is the quote and where did you send yours?!
>>65644161Don't spend more than $2k on an AK, because you are already going to be getting into a money sink gun when it comes to the ammo if you are going with 7.62x39. The AK import market is always more volatile than the domestic AR market, so if there is something you want like an Arsenal or Zastava, then it might be better to snag one now and get an AR later. You will probably get both eventually.>>65644649I haven't tried the Putnik yet, but I've suppressed my ZPAP92 with a JMAC HUB muzzle brake and a DA Wolverine. The recoil impulse is not that bad without a reddit piston, but I'm sure it can be tuned down more. I installed one of those leather gaskets from AKOU, and it actually does mitigate the gas blowback quite a bit. It's a lot less gassy than my LMT NZ with Surefire RC2.
Which would /akg/ choose and why?
>>65645625Bottom, hungarians are chrome lined and it looks way nicer. That RTI barrel is likely a sewer pipe. Also, if the bolt from the milled kit doesnt headspace on the rti barrel(ask mw how i know), you either have to redrill an oversize pin, which looks like ass, or weld the pin hole up, which is a pain in the ass.TL;DR for the love of God buy the hungarian
>>65645625Another thing, youd have to buy a stock for the yugo too as the "M64" (M70) stocks have two tangs like a type 3 versus the M70B1 which has the long bolt
>>65645651Okay I might do that then if some friends flake out on getting Tavor kits with me. I still might get the M64 fixed stock kit for the furniture since I am on the fence about getting some Yugo AK some day and having surplus furniture would be cool.
>>65645657fuck nvm then, ty for the info anon
>>65645659Well, looking at the picture it looks like a later m70 stock with the bolt, but that may not mean anything as your probably not going to receive that specific parts kit from the picture. Imo you can never have too many parts. Maybe you could make some kind of adapter to use the m64 stock, like a type 2 socket
>>65643462wait for zastava to get off their ass and drop the 300blk m85 if you're deadset on nogout (like me)
>>65641597I got a 101 a few months ago. I haven't had time to shoot it much, but the build quality is great and it runs good. I haven't done any real accuracy testing, but I can feel the 74 brake is a bit loose when fully tightened down. It has play moving up and down. This is the only AK I own in 24mm, so I don't know if that's common or not. I haven't bothered time it, because I have a griffin adapter and 5.56 low back pressure can otw for it.
>>65645876Can you take a pic of your muzzle device from the top?
The state of the AK market in the US in one image.
>>65646086Better photo.
>>65646091Push the detent all the way down and try to tighten it down some more. Muzzle devices on 24mm sight block should be almost snug against the front sight.
>>65645907>>65646091I read people sand down the base of the 74 brakes so they can tighten them up more against the front sight post, but I plan to keep the gun suppressed anyways so I wont bother. I have the griffin mount and its solid as a rock.
>>65646102That's as far as it will go. If you get it snug the groove for the cleaning rod will be facing upwards.
>>65646114I see. On my Saiga you the muzzle brake will move up and down a little if you put some force into it but it’s otherwise snug. Is your brake from before or after they fixed the accuracy issues their brakes caused?
>>65646118I think its before. The gun has a 7xx serial number which I'm pretty sure is from the 2nd batch that they released for pre order. As far as I can remember that's about when people started talking about the issue.
>>65646142Have you tested it to see how it groups?
>>65646185I have not. I'm going to try and do some testing when I get the suppressor in.
Nspec innovations seems to have an assload of zenitco in stock, is it real? Thinking of picking some up, even if it's for insane prices.
Anyone happen to have a broken or hyper shitty type II AK bayonet? (picrel, separate pommel and guard/muzzle ring from the handle) Dont care about the country or basically anything about it aside from having a functional pommel and guard with a muzzle ring intact. In my infinite autism my newest side project is modifying my bushcraft knife to have a mount to utilize it as an AK bayonet. Do not ask for my reasoning because I have none other than i want to and im bored. My ideal part out knife is one with a cracked blade or some other reason im not destroying one thats still intact and functional. Ill cover shipping, email me at Kadow13@protonmail.com
>>65646367Make a combloc market account. People sell bayonet parts individually all the time on there. You can also make a thread stating what you’re looking for.
How do you do fellow Romanian AK owners?
>>65645036$1000 for the entire service plus new receiver, barrel, folding stock/trunnion kit, refinishing. I think it's a little high but no one would buy it because of 5.45 ammo availability plus it being a Waffen Werks no one would chance it being a lemon. My other choice was spend $2000 instead for an entirely new rifle so I bit the bullet and sent it off.
>>6564611474 style 24x1.5 muzzle devices will have the tiniest amount of wiggle. They're not like AR muzzle devices where they index against anything.
why doesnt arsenal offer wood furniture on their sam7? i might go with a zpap m70 just because they have woodnot gonna bother fitting shit my self, i hate wood working :(
>>65646704>putting literally any amount of time or effort into anything I own to TOO HARD WAAAHHHHHWhy are so many post-2020 gun owners so gay and useless?
>>65646704That's a dumb thing to do when you could just buy one of those M70 barreled receivers and put surp wood on it.
>>65646704They used to. It was called a SAM7 Classic. It was discontinued some time ago, but I'm sure if you look around you might be able to turn one up.
>>65646918dont forget moneyidiot
>>65647187>a couple files and sandpaper>WAAAAHHHHH TO EXPENSIVE if you cant afford to do any kind of tinkering at all, you probably need to spend money on rent and food instead of guns
>>65647189the wood furniture? probably 200 bucks extra
>>65646704nothing wrong with those Zastava AKs. Arsenal has a bit more prestige but much better bang for the buck going Serbian
>>65646918eh, some people are like that. i myself will troubleshoot and fit and file and thread shit myself, but i get if some people don't have the time or inclination to do it themselves. easy money for a gunsmith!
>>65643357>using any wbp parts at allFuck no>>65643462>PSA AKsFuck no>>65644030Pester meridian to do a 300blk Krink>>65645625AK63 has aura
>>65647208>$200 for wood furniture is expensiveYou shouldn't be browsing 4chan while you're at school, little buddy
>>65634913>Too bad these have become unobtanium. Much cleaner solution to mounting a flashlight than a ultimak.Dunno about an AK9 specifically but the ARM1 handguards are only difficult to get if you don't know where to look. The Bulgarian bayonets and handguards to kit out your arsenal milled AK are exclusively traded on forums. You DM the guy and pay a very reasonable price to get them. It has been a long while but if anyone is interested I can find the place again.
>>65647297i accept your concession
>>65647353Dude you literally just admitted you are too poor for either tools or wood furniture, how the fuck am I conceding anything lmao
>>65647446im not poor im just not gonna buy an ak with plastic grips just to replace them and have them laying around unusedi have a single rifle worth more than your entire collection probably (15k)
Should I go folding stock on my M70? How is the zhuvok one?
>>65647461>15k rifleCan I see it?Anyways, theres nothing wrong with spare partsYou autistic by any chance?
>>65643326reddit gun
>>65643326what ak is that
>>65639249>be me 3 years ago>Went shooting innawoods. >Left innashitty with light rain that followed up to my shoot spot innawoods. >Rain quickly turned into fierce snowfall in late May.>my ar 15 with frt refused to shoot in snow (light strikes on primer)>Zastava m70 didn't give a fuck and fired flawlessly.Was cool having a beer in the snow innawoods shooting with my serbian war crime stick, been an ak autist ever since.
>>65639847>RAK-74Is this the riley defense ak-74? Are these any good? I wanna see if their 5.56 guns hit store shelves, may do a drunk purchase for the fuck of it
>>65647253M8, not to be an asshole but you've been laughed off the board for fucking up parts kits to the point you get called "what rivet, what re-weld". PSA krinks are decent enough for what they are considering what actual krink parts kits go for.
>>65647461whatcha got bro?
>>65647461>15k dollar riflewtf, what gun?
>>65647927>>65647933something like this
>>65647987oh fuk. cool.
>>65647987hm. i'm sure it's smooth but i don't really dig extravagance.
>>65639249>realized the AK was betterProbably no one. I love my AK but since I don't live in the arctic circle my much cheaper AR is a more reliable, more accurate and lighterweight package. Still love the AK tho. If I ever wanted to obliterate a black bear coming into my house at night to rob me I'd definitely grab my AK loaded with softpoints.
>>65647987>bragging about owning a $15k rifle>posts a stock image of a R93Fuck off retard
>>65647461if you don't have a parts box of assorted handguards, pistol grips, and different stocks you are not an AK owner. Just stick to ARs princess.
>>65648153AR owners are just like this
>>65648165ANY reputable gun owner who shoots and builds has a spares bin with enough parts to make a full firearm to varying degrees of completion
>SGL-21-94 (used)>$4250https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1210918383How much do you lot think I could negotiate this down? I've always wanted one of the SGL folders.
>>65648178Doesn't it get hot dressed in all black?
stamped or milled? i cant decide
>>65648238Stamped for AKMsStamped for AK-74s and derivativesMilled only if Bulgarian
>>65648255yeah but is milled better or notshould i just get a zastava zpap m70 or a bulgarian sam7
>>65648260After 1954, it really doesn't matter. Most AKs and thus most of the AK aftermarket is for stamped receiver guns.
>>65648260Stamped is better. Milled weighs more for no reason. Unfortunately the ZPAP is probably the heaviest stamped AK that you could buy new. I’d probably still get the ZPAP though.
>>65648260stamped WBP or Cugir/Circle 11 combloc kit build in proper AK caliber, you'll have tons of options for it
Anon who received the absolutely raped Romanian kit from other anon here. Upon further inspection it’s a poorly demilled screw build (lmao). Not a single part on this kit is numbers matching. Also someone took a grinder to the barrel around the chamber for some reason and deformed the muzzle end so bad that I’ll have to grind off the end of it to get the gas block and handguard retainer off. Still, it was very generous for anon to make the trade that he did and I appreciate that. Here are the parts I’m not going to use for anything, if you want them shoot me an email and I’ll send them to you for free. I have:Absolutely raped WBP vented gas blockBlack polymer pistol gripBlack polymer upper handguardMagpul MOE stockMagpul MOE handguardUS made slant brake
>>65648260you're going to get the m70 and then be like maan i want non yugo furniture and then end up also getting another ak
>>65648927Neither option he picked had many options available. If he sticks to RE Regulate he’d be fine with either though.
>>65648927Honestly I dont get this. The point of buying an ak is for the classic, no nonsense looks. If youre just going to play dress up with your gun and slap a bunch of gay aftermarket tactislop accessories on it just buy an AR
>>65649339>The point of buying an ak is for the classic, no nonsense looksNo it isn’t, fuck off retard
>>65648260Milled just means there is less for the slav Homer Simpson working at the AK factory to fuck up since there are no rivets. Also milled will technically last longer, but (You) will never shoot enough 7.62x39 to need a new barrel let alone a new receiver.
>>65648226just pay the $4250 if that is what they're asking. i've sold on gunbroker, and people messaging you trying to get a deal is very, very annoying. if i was ok with hundreds or thousands less than what is posted, i'd have asked for less. so yeah, pay what they want or just go elsewhere.
>>65649341Then what is the point other than "vibes"They aren't cheaper than ARsThey aren't more accurate or more reliableNeither parts nor ammo are more availableYoure buying an AK for the sake of buying an AK, theres no objective advantage over an ARAnd theres nothing wrong with thatBut trying to turn an AK into an AR defeats the purpose
>>65649389Why would you want an AR? They jam every other shotThey’re so reliable that they had to add a button to push the bolt into batteryThe handguards crack if you look at themYou have to screw the mount into the handguard if you want to put an optic on itAmmo heavier than 55 gr won’t stabilize The 20” barrel is cumbersome You’re stuck with 20 round magazines
>>65649401see, everything you posted is a half truth at best. i've got several AKs and want several more. i've got a tricked out Saiga that I love, but my AR in 7.62x39 does everything it does at least as good and with less weight+cost. my bare-bones, classic-style Saiga in 5.56 is comparable in weight and handiness to my AR in 5.56.
>>65647866I feel like your tranny cope trigger group was the problem, not it being an AR.
>>65649410>everything you posted is a half truth at best.Says the man who said that AK ammo isn’t as available as AR ammo while owning a 5.56 AKSays the man who claimed that AKs aren’t more reliable Says the man who states that owning a modern AK variant is trying to “turn it into an AR”If you like owning guns as fashion accessories cool but don’t try to participate in actual firearm discussion.
>>65649428i actually didn't say any of that. still...'AK ammo' is generally 7.62x39, and it isn't as available in the US as .233/5.56. both are pretty reliable nowadays. bare bones, old school AKs really do work better than trying to have them compete with ARs when it comes to customization.i don't get the 'owning guns as fashion accessories' comment.
>>65649444>i actually didn't say any of that. So you’re going to claim that the sentiment is different because you worded it slightly differently? Disingenuous piece of shit. > AK ammo' is generally 7.62x39, and it isn't as available in the US as .233/5.56. The vast majority of AK manufacturers on the market today make rifles in 7.62 and 5.56 with 5.56 guns continuing to expand in popularity >bare bones, old school AKs really do work better than trying to have them compete with ARs when it comes to customization.> i don't get the 'owning guns as fashion accessories' comment.You don’t get the fashion accessory comment but you base your preference in AKs off of fashion and pretend that any developments to the rifle after 1992 shouldn’t exist. Either you aren’t being honest with yourself or you’re an idiot.
>>65649428Have you killed anyone with your AK?Since you haven't, it is also just a fashion accessory
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>>65649488>canned responseProve me wrong
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>>65649339i'm basically a gay retarded trans chinese man and i like having different furniture set ups and the yugos don't have everything i want, unfortunately.
>>65632737>Only the FB Radom AKs are worth considering if you really want 5.56x45 NATO>>65632815>i thought zpap m90 was ok?From my one week of researching potential AKs it seems like the FB Radoms are unobtainium and the M90 is the way to go, anyways.
>>65638137open to sharing that scan data? been working on some stuff for the double stack makarov, it's my favorite gun
Did any country ever use walnut for their AK furniture
>>65650869I would be happy to once it actually happens. Nice guy but something has come up every time we are meant to meet, I’m thinking of just finding a place and paying them so I can get it over with.
ak's make you gay because it makes you go furniture shopping
>>65651228i attempted to build a own scanning/photogrammetry rig for such purposes, but it's a pretty involved process and it fell by the wayside versus other more pressing projects. ended up just paying someone to model the parts i was going to scan anyways
>>65651520All guns are homosexual because they are all phallic in nature
>>65651896barrels are holes though
>>65651953Your penis doesn't have a hole? How do you pee?
>>65651960implying girls dont pee?
>>65652174yeah. outta their butts. thats why they sit to pee
>>65649389They point and swing a little better for me
