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Because we cant have weapons i find myself in a tough spot. Sounds like a joke but i am not joking. They got into my neighbour's house recently but he wasnt there.
What can you use for self defense that is still pretty good? We can have hunting bows and pepper spray for example.
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>>65633570
Move to a eurofag country that lets you own guns.
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>>65633592
Is not so simple to move to another country anon
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>>65633570
Machetes
Spears
Reinforced doors and windows
Home alarms
Dogs
Most importantly, TRAINING
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>>65633570
>Because we cant have weapons
I can just about guarantee you that you can, but are simply unwilling to put any more than token effort and money into it.
t. Euro
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>>65633570
Stick-shaped sport implement for whatever sports are common in your country. Baseball bats, cricket bats, golf clubs, hockey sticks...
Reasoning: If your country is gay on weapon ownership, faggot prosecutors might try to get you on "weapon possession" and, say, a baseball bat doesn't have much plausible deniability if there is no baseball diamond within a hundred miles. So you pick something you can argue to have a legitimate use for
This only really applies in turbo-mega-cuck countries like the UK, but it's worth keeping in mind
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>>65633625
This. OPs like this are always the kind of tard who should not be allowed to own guns, or vote, or have any rights in the first place.
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>>65633570
Your fists and meth. Get AIDS, lace syringes with your blood and stab whoever tries to get in. The stories afterward will scare any future intruders.
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>>65633612
this pretty much.

Since youre a eurofag, dont have anything that is obviously meant to be a weapon. If you have a machete, make sure you use it in your yard/garden, so it looks like its a tool not a weapon (still keep it sharp through).
Knives should be a kitchen knife, or a garden knife (those are pretty large and sharp actually)
Blunt objects are a good option, such as a claw hammer, but make sure it has marks on it like you were using it to hammer nails and shit. Pepper spray (not gel) is a great option too, but it's not a 100%,

Reenforce your house, get alarms, motion activated lights, get a big dog that will bark and ideally bite. plant thorn bushes under your windows or small gravel that makes noise. dont have anything like rocks or small statues in your yard that they can throw through your windows.

Id add, have two powerful flashlights, 1200L at least. One small enough for your pocket EDC, and another big and sturdy enough to hit someone with.

And ya, be in shape
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>>65633570
protect yourself first with the most effective method, figure out the legal consequences later.
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In-home: axe, hatchet and an alibi for why you had kept an axe and hatchet (planned excursion to countryside, family tradition etc.). An intruder who is bleeding is more likely to capitulate than one smacked with a club, bat, hammer or the like.

On the street 1:1 is pepper/cs gas spray.
Sjambok or like blugeon for 1:n+1. Blade weapon or clawhammer.

I live in Chicago and carry a pistol.
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Do you have a garden with trees? Long handled "tool" like a slingblade. And then practice.
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>>65633598
if your life is in danger and you aren't willing to do whatever it takes to protect it you are either too dumb to live or not actually in that much danger.
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>>65633570
Where in Europe?
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>>65634954
Tell us more about monumental life undertakings you have zero experience with
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>>65634979
He won't respond and they never include their specific location in the OP because he'd immediately get a dozen Anons from his own country in replies telling him how to get a gun.

>>65635019
He's 100% correct, if you see moving as too much of a hassle then you're either not really in danger or NGMI. 7 million Ukrainians didn't think moving was too much hassle in 2022.
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>>65634979
Pastaland
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>>65635405
iirc your bottleneck should be in the amount of ammo you can be in possession of and purchase annually and not guns themselves. Just have hunting license of be club member somewhere
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>>65633570
Well if you insist on a bow, I recommend something more traditional than a modern compound bow. Compounds are good if you got all the time in the world to take your shot, but in a defensive scenario, you'll want something that will shoot more rapidly. Having to fish your arrow through some fancy rest even if it's just a whisker biscuit takes more time from knock to shot.
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>>65633570
First, have you researched the weapon laws extensively where you're from or are you just going on "vibes" and "what everyone knows"?

>>65635405
Begin the process of getting your sporting license for a firearm. If you're unwilling to even make the attempt you're not worth saving.

Beyond that, yes a bow or crossbow can be used in the defense of your property in an extreme circumstance. If you don't have a gun your physical conditioning is going to be of extreme importance. Practice is what will make the difference.
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>>65635409
Warning, this anon is retarded.
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Also whats probably better than a bow are spear and sword. Not machete but sword. Neither requires much strength to use and not many want try to get past your point.
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>>65633570
>>65635405
>Because we cant have weapons
>Pastaland

There's multiple pastaanons with pretty impressive collections, are you sure you're not just underageb&, lazy, poor and/or retarded?
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>>65635405
get a coldsteel Cinquedea for a pastaland racial bonus to self defense/melee damage. If you end up using it and get questioned on why you have it, you can tell them it is cultural.

Plus if you kill someone with that youd probably be the first to do it since the 16th century
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>>65635411
Debate me, coward.
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>>65634047
>axe, hatchet
Weapons that need swinging? In a tight environment?
Don't listen to this nufag.
Knoife is king.
Stabby stabby and 15 seconds later problem goes to plastic bag.
Just remember to use bleach + descaler (not the onions household appliances stuff) for the traces. Just the bleach will not remove all.
Because this is Yurop.
Or maybe you want prison because you weren't a good enough slave to be killed outside.
Yes, it's that bad and you know it.
Murica pls nuke us. The whole fucking continent pretty please.
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>>65635425
I am a bit lazy and quite retarded. But i am sure that we cant have pistols here, maybe shotguns if you jump through enough hoops.
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>>65635436
Is fucked up over here. I wanted a katana for decoration, but also you know, i have a katana is fome fucker enters the house in the middle of the night. And i found out that you cant have a real katana unless you go run around for a while trying to get the permits.
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>>65635436
picrel has been hit with a lot of different things and he says that pepper spray is quite effective.
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>>65635440
>admits being retarded
>"But i am sure that we cant have-"

Anon I...
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>>65635443
Don't know what pepper spray you have over there but that shit doesn't even work for dogs much.
Plus if they're IN your house it's life or death, and it probably won't be just one guy so go for something that can do damage and fast.
Even a kitchen knife with a wide blade so your hand doesn't slip over the edge will do a lot more than pepper. And it's a kitchen knife, not deadly assault nazi ninja sword.
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>>65635447
You can have one if you are a police man but no ordinary person can have them.
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>>65635451
I hear the old timers say that you should have a shotgun with shells filled with rock salt.
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>>65635440
You ungrateful mascalzon.
I'm from Balkanistan and even I know the only limits in Macaronia are basically no caliber used by army/police, 29 max mag capacity and no full-auto.
You just have to say you were under severe emotional distress and that's why that marocchino in your house has 69 bullet holes.
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>>65635453
Just say you haven't really looked into it and save yourself the embarrassment.
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>>65635453
Wow you really are ignorant of your own laws. https://www.cacciainfiera.it/en/approfondimento/come-si-acquista-legalmente-unarma
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>>65635453
Literally first page on google. Of course I picked the reddit link.
https://www.reddit.com/r/italy/comments/wuu4vg/do_italians_have_the_right_to_bear_arms_in_italy/
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>>65635457
>>65635460
>>65635463
pistol anons, i said pistol
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>>65633570
The most effective thing you can do is to become the hardest to crack target in your neighborhood. Thieves want easy risk free jobs not waste time on security doors, alarms, cameras etc.

1. Get a security door for your front and balcony
2. Hang up visible cameras or decoys
3. Secure your windows with alarms or extra locks

That alone will do a lot without any weapons.
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>>65635468
Yes you can get a pistol on a sporting license you fucking retard, pay attention.
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>>65633570
A large dog. Be nice to it and let it sleep beside the bed. A Crowbar. Make sure you have a bucket and some plaster and a small area of wall painted a bit with it and scratched with the crowbar , make sure the crowbar has some plaster on it. Leave it in the bucket beside the patch of all. You had it to scrape off the plaster to redo it. Buy it all at the same time on the same receipt.
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Bars for the windows, triple locks if really necessary a steel outer on your fronty door with a sheet of conveypor belt behind it, motion detctor lights on any access ways and a CCTV so you can see them. A good door and lock on the room you sleep in. PIR alarms for when you are asleep a fire extinguister
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>>65635471
monitored alarm is the most off puttting to the ones who know what they are at.
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>>65635456
>basically no caliber used by army/police
The 9x19mm ban was lifted in 2022 or so and they just use .223 and .308 instead of 5.56 and 7.62.
https://www.reddit.com/r/italy/comments/semc23/cade_il_divieto_per_il_calibro_da_pistola_919_mm/
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>>65635493
Didn't know about the shoah of the 9mm IMI, but yes their caliber laws are funny stupid.
At least they get to have something.
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>>65633570
>Eurofag living in dangerous area needs advice Anonymous 11/05/26(Thu)10:46:18No.6


One thing is having the thing, whole another thing is being allowed to use it in self defense, some countries are pretty retarded on that front.

Pepper sprays are always a good choice, bows are probably tricky to use for someone new to them so a crossbow could be a good stand-in. Just know you have literally one shot. Speaking of one shot, can you have black powder guns?

Also a pointy stick works as well.

And as others are saying, get training.
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A short-ish bladed weapon/sword/machete and appropriate weapons training (FMA has some disciplines that work). Combine with a strong light or pepper spray. A shield could be an idea but you probably won't be able to find training for it, while a blinding light or pepper spray can give some serious advantage.
If you're thinking about the outdoors and have more space, a cutlass or messer would be an idea. If you find GOOD messer HEMA training, it's an option, otherwise don't.
Also before you drink the coolaid about plausible deniability and all that: Check your local laws. Some shitholes like britannistan require it. In others you can just arm up all you like and the judge won't care.

If you're asking for actual examples: A tod cutler coustille for a short weapon, a landsknecht emporium messer for a slightly longer one. Historically accurate weapons are IMO the best ones you can find.
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You need to make a neighborhood watch party with your fellow neighbors to keep rowdy trouble makers away. Then you organize more neighboring watch party to work together in tandem to better protect the neighborhood. Of course you'll need some funding for the watch parties equipment, perhaps missed wages due to conflicting schedules or for whatever the need arises so make sure you do a little side hustling door to door sales or corner block sales. Baked goods & lemonades isn't bad but when your organization gets bigger you may want to start selling more valuable stuff.

Also you'll need internal enforcers to keep a strict adherence to whatever tenets and rules you may have.

Its a start but very doable. just need to start a grassroots type of organization

Separate you are weak but together you are strong
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>>65633570
Get a repeating crossbow that allows for quick magazine change. If you can't get a crossbow, prioritize a recurve bow over a compound bow.
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>>65635927
>One thing is having the thing, whole another thing is being allowed to use it in self defense, some countries are pretty retarded on that front.
Blind him with a class 4 laser, bash his head in with the nearest blunt object, then hide the laser and call the police. The coroner isn't going to check his retinas.
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>>65635927
>Also a pointy stick works as well
>>65635436
Yes short chopping and slashing weapons that can stab if necessary were the pick for tight indoor fighting for all of human history for a reason. Spears are only the pick of armchair historians who have never actually fought in a house before.
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>>65635927
>One thing is having the thing, whole another thing is being allowed to use it in self defense

Most of Europe aside from Britanistan is actually pretty good in this regard if you are defending yourself inside your residence, the only thing that is consistently ruled excessive self defense is killing someone once they stopped posing a threat and started running away.
A German member of Hells Angels woke up during a night police raid on his house, he shot twice through his door thinking it was a rival gang member trying to execute a hit on him.
A police officer was killed when the round went through the arm opening in his vest and into his chest.
He was eventually acquitted because it was ruled that he had no way of knowing it was the police and acted in what he thought was justified self defense.
Look up Karl-Heinz B. Anhausen case.
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>>65633570
>nogunz close quarter battle paradise
>still insists on killing from a distance
jej why are whitoids so fucking cowardly?
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>>65633570
>What can you use for self defense that is still pretty good?
Molotav cocktail
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>>65633598
>Is not so simple to move to another country anon
In europe it's so simple that niggers can figure it out, why can't you?
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>>65635440
Well a shotgun is way better than a bow and arrow so why don't you get that?
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>>65638517
Not everyone places izzat above all else, Sundeep
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>>65633570
If you are european move to the usa
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>>65633570
im pretty sure you can, youre just thinking that "i cannot walk into a store and buy a gun" equals inability to have a gun. Even shitholes like germany and france has gun laws, but you need to put an effort to have one - and usually its less effort than driving licence.

Im starting to thinkthat if youre a goycattle who by defaut thinks cant have weapons, that might be best for you - cattle should be cattle.


t. eurofag with 30+ guns
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>>65635440
retarded people shouldnt have guns, otherwise it'll be america, and i can guarantee you gun owners in europe dont want that.

youre perfectly where you are, even if you dont like that answer.
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>>65640314
>Im starting to thinkthat if youre a goycattle who by defaut thinks cant have weapons, that might be best for you - cattle should be cattle.
My position went from a firm "SHALL NOT" in the 2010s to "holy SHIT am I glad the brown biomass imported from fuck knows where and other sub-sapient cattle I meet on a daily basis can't just walk into a gunshop and get a pistol".
t. 51 if you count suppressors
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>>65635405
Buy a Beretta and a Ferrari.
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>>65635471
>>65635479
>>65635484
this shit right here. having a weapon for defense is fine, but preventing someone from even getting in, or scaring them off before you know there is a problem, is far, far better
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>>65640338
oh right some countries need to register cans.

Thats what I love in Poland, I can buy surpressor to pickup box, no questions asked - half of my guns have dedicated cans.

Have a nice photo of last purchasing spree (mp5 sof-n)
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>>65638517
>Italians
>white
Lemme stop you right there anon
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>>65638922
Yeah we have enough wops thank you
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>>65633570
Bacon



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