/arg/ eager beaver editionPreviously, on days of our arg>>65630840
First for fuck you guys.
rma makes shitty plates. Gilliam is BASED.
>>65635244fpbp & checked.
i like my AR15 but i hate yours
>>65635130We could all have integrally reflex flow though hicars perfectly tuned from factory but the invisible hand of the market forces gunmakers to produce slop for wiggers. This means capitalism is working.
in for mk iv
who else /innawoods/ this weekend?????
have ammo prices actually gone up since the midterms?
>>65635488No
>>65635310but my AR15 is yours.
Current list of /arg/ approved LBP suppressors to help anons shopping for babby's first suppressor:>CAT WB* (see below)>CAT ST>SAW Tisha>Ridgeback Rhodie>Exigent FireTeam 556>OCL Infinity 556>Surefire RC4 (lol)>KAC CRS3>PTR SpiritusREMOVED:>SiCo Velos LBP (due to age & weight)>Hux Flow 556ti (due to price & better options out there)>Wolfpack Romulus 556 (questionable QC from Wolfpack's prior muzzle devices)Non-LBP /arg/ approved options (better for tuned hosts and/or cost-savings):>Surefire RC2 (heavy with proprietary mounting, but reliable)>OCL Polonium (cheap with great warranty)>YHM Turbo T3 (cheap and comes with muzzle device/QD)***Updates: CAT is teasing a WB2.0 and ODB2.0 to be in current development. Supposed to offer better performance at a lower price point to compete with the newer competition. https://files.catbox.moe/e3jp9a.jpeg>They are higher output, price pointed versions of the original OG’s but focused on where we are going into 2027. For the main CAT brand, we’re focused on ST, AKB and future models. But there existed an opportunity with SS to create a price leader of CAT tech with someone that had the size to pick up what was going to become a deleted model. Therefore, both 2.0 are better all round than the first OG’s.
>>65635546>doesn't mention the Rhodie
>>65635554gonna let you mull that one over for a bit then get back to me.
As someone who is a total idiot, can someone explain to me the price gap between some generic $500 upper and the fancy G$ $2000 uppers? If they're both something like a 11.5" with DI and a chrome barrel, is the huge price gap due to brand name or something else?
>>65635559some of it is materials (ie you can't find a chrome lined CHF 1:7 barreled upper for $500)some of it is quality manufacturing is expensive eg goyslee has its own in house barrel making equipment, own in house small part making equipment, etc -this is important because parts stack better if they're all made in house since the engineers can just walk over and troubleshootsome of it is paying for extra qc so you know it runs out of the box as opposed to bca/psa items which are qc'd by illiterate sub room temp iq workerssome of it is the branding/marketing (to the logical extreme of this look at KAC, which are marginally better than goyslee at twice the cost because they're pipe hitter certified)some of this is bill's donut budgetit's possible to make a rifle roughly equivalent to a goyslee out of the box and save a few hundred (which is roughly the cost of qc and time spent hunting down and waiting for sales and assembling and shit)
>>65635559better barrel, better bcg, better handguard (including an anti rotation tab on the super duty), better charging handle, better gas block, better gas tube, better QC on individual parts, not assembled by a retarded gorilla. only a dummy would buy one when not on sale though.
>>65635554>rhodie owners have developed a blinding victim complex That's rough champ.
>>65635569>>65635572Does any of that actually translate to anything though? I've got some generic PSA upper that "just werks". Do these fancy uppers make me have magically better accuracy or something? It's kinda like how I don't understand the difference between a stripped Anderson (RIP) lower for $50 and a HK416 lower for $800.
>>65635488idk I'm going to the store after work. They were on sale earlier this week.
>>65635594>I've got some generic PSA upper that "just werks"What kind of groups does it get?
>>65635594>make me have better accuracyNo they don't make you have better accuracy, but the gun possibly has better accuracy.>HK and AndersonHK way overcharges for their name. However, the difference can potentially be your lower working with everything or not. Your lower accepting all magazines or not. Etc. Chances are low that you'll get trash and you're mostly paying for name but the Geisseles, DDs, BCMs will always be higher quality than the PSAs, etc. Go buy shoot that PSA. Go take it to war. Go do whatever. I'm sure it will be fine. Nobody will stop you. Hello, nobody will even care.
>>65635559Budget uppers are made with dog shit receivers, ie chatter marks and shit tolerances. I had a dog shit receiver and replaced with BCM, night and day difference. Barrel quality matters even more. And then of course there is quality control. In general the ar15 market has a number of OEM houses that produce varying degrees of quality for assembly companies. All the fucked up and barely passing parts go to the budget assemblers. All the high end assemblers have stricter quality standards for the OEM to meet. Then as mentioned by anon there are in house manufacturing like G$ and others with the benefits thereby. Should be noted that G$ was shit on for years itt due to sloppy qc and bendy rails. Thankfully that’s not so much the case anymore.
>>65635594In theory no it doesn’t matter bro it’s JAG but in reality yes it matters.
>>65635594yesgoyslees out of the box are probably 1-1.5 moa gunsyour psa out of the box is likely a 2.5-3 moa gunm4 tdp is 4 moa though lol9 hole reviews glazes goyslee accuracy for a reasoni've personally shot 2 moa groups of 55 gr pmc bronze out of a super duty the qc and parts quality shows up in longevity of equipment; sotar has a good video about an ultra high round count goyslee upper with a shot out barrelif your shit isn't qc'd properly or is poor quality something like the cam retaining pin will groove out an upper and the upper commits sepukuproper chf chrome lined barrel lasts much longer on the same firing scheduleetc etcas to hk well thats just the retarded german tax, do you want a pipe hitter rollmark or not??
>>65635612>groups>of 55 gr pmc bronzeIt just occurred to me I have never tried shooting groups with blasting ammo. Maybe I'll do that this weekend.
>>65635605The most I'm shooting at is like 50 yards because I don't have the space for more, but if it's benched, it gives me a ~1 inch group with whatever cheap ammo I'm using. I've never once had it get a jam or FTE/FTF, and I run it with whatever PMags I have. >>65635612I AM tempted to someday get a 416 just for the dick flex and the cool marks, but holy shit $4000 for roll marks seems kinda nutty if it doesn't have super magical quality as well. If I ever want to do a good build in the future, what's "the" brand to go with that's actually good and not just paying for the roll marks?
>>65635594>Does any of that actually translate to anything though?Aside from reliability, durability, a more efficient gas system leading to less parts wear over time, smoother operation, and better static accuracy? No.
>>65635618BCM, DD and G$ are all good value not just paying for rollmarks.
>>65635612>cam pin will groove out an upperah yeah this reminded me to tell bone frog to go fuck themselves.
>>65635626A popped primer just flew over my house!
>>65635626to be fair you were shooting the mystery meat range shit, their standard stuff is gtg
>>65635646That shit aint mystery meat and it’s not cheap either so what the fuck? You’re literally paying more for a premium product and then making excuses for it when it fails. Why even buy that ammo then? I know you just like spending money based on your builds but I’m hoping this hypothetical will cause other posters to think for a second.
>>65635654Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you buy the range line shit, which has this disclaimer attached and is noticeably cheaper than the rest of bone frog's ammo? If not I apologize, but I have literally told people not to buy this ammo because it varies batch by batch and can't be vetted properly
>>65635661That reply wasn't me but yeah I learned the hard way with it.
>>65635664I sort of figured, message style didn't line up but I wasn't sure if other anons bought bone frog as well. Sorry that happened man, did your reach out to them at all?
>>65635668I only bought 500rds to test before I decided whether or not to step up to their good shit so its not a huge loss. I only shoot 77gr so saving a few cents per round was alluring. I had 2 popped primers (that I know of) before I finished half of it but I'll still probably buy half a case of their barnes match burner loads to test anyway. I understood what I was getting into but shitposting about it is more fun. I might drop them a note with picture links attached when I buy the barnes stuff just so they can pass it along to that lots supplier.
>>65635626that looks really drydo you not bukakke your shit with engine oil or tranny fluid
>>65635696>I understood what I was getting into but shitposting about it is more fun.fair enough, but yeah I'd definitely let them know. They might give you a discount or something
>>65635697I lube my bcg after every time I shoot but I don't get it soaked. Goyslee rebcg can be ran dry no problem in my experience, though I don't try to do so. It's just that slick. The rails on this rifles bcg have yet to show any real wear to the coating like one would expect which is kind of mind boggling to me. >>65635707Yeah I might as well. It WAS a very annoying malfunction to clear.
>>65635661All I’m saying is it’s not cheap enough to handwave away like russian steel case or something.
What do we think about the BRN-180 uppers?I my dreams of having an AR-18 is copeable.
>>65635826I agree, however when a manufacturer sells re-manufactured ammo or inconsistent ammo I can reasonably expect some issues, the difference being you can contact them and tell them the ammo has issues and it can be corrected/reimbursed
>>65635832>right hand chargeaieeeeeeee
512 vs XPS2, which should I grab?
>>65635945Why either of these over an XPS3 if you're going with EOtech?
>>65635952Because it's that or a grorious horosun. 512 can be had NIB for $350, right around the price point of a 510c or AEMS.
>>65636073$100 chink dot
>>65636073Oh so budget constraints? The problem is that eotech is holo whereas horosun is regular red dot.
>>65635310My rifle's bigger than your rifle!https://youtu.be/bVSHqCA5YTc
>>65636073Love my XPS2-0, secondhand for $360. Only issue so far is the delamination, but I can send that in for free repairs provided I do it somewhat soon
>>65636092Isn't holo better for people with the 'tism?
>>65636128Good glass quality matters more imho
>>65636128It does help yeah. What I'm trying to say is that the eotech will be more expensive no matter what. I kind of want to try those chink holo dots but can you even really trust them yet?
>>65636147Not him, but I run an AEMS on my SD. It holds zero fine, and I do like the shake awake and auto brightness. It's great for the price (got it $325 new), BUT you can definitely see it's got CHYNA quality versus something nicer.
>>65636073Anon is telling you to pop for the QD version.
>>65636128you need tactical specs bro for the EOTech.
>>65636123mine is delaminating too. I got it second hand tho so im not even gonna both trying to get a free repair. I think they charge like $80 to refurb it.
Holographic doesn't blur as badly with an astigmatism but I think a prism or even a scope work better for astigmatism as they will correct your vision for you without glasses on.Even a magnifier will work in the same way.If you have a set of glasses handy at all times the dot is fineThe more you know
>>65636180Call me crazy, but I like the fat hump on the 512. It's sexy.
Also in my experience with an astigmatism if you run a dot without glasses you want just a 2 MOA dot, the circle-dot Holosun reticles are an absolute blurry, crowded mess.
>>65636201thats not a 512
Is painting your AR cool or cringe?
What back up iron sights do you fags recommend?
>>65636228Yes.
>>65636232mbussy or kac
>>65636232>using anything besides mbus
>having such shit genetics you can't even see a red circle correctlykekking @ stiggybros
>>65636242What pisses me off is I got the 'tism in my dominant eye, while the other eye is totally fine.
>>65636147Mine is 10 years old and rattled around in my truck for 50,000 miles. >>65636195Eotech circle is also distracting as fuck and just a retarded concept overall. They really are just such pieces of shit for your money.
>>65636232Mbus pro have the lowest profile but backup irons are passé. If tier one operators aren’t running them there’s no reason for billy Bob fuckhead to run them.
>>65636307>not wanting a ring and dotWhy the hell would you prefer dot only? The entire point of the ring is to help visualize the dot better. Even Holosun has ring and dot on all their optics now.
>>65636321Ring is gay
so with the new NFA rules, I can legally build a suppressor at home without needing to register it or serialize it or anything, right? (I live in a free state with no state level NFA thing). I wouldn't mind building a little .22 LR can or something
>>65636321>my cheek weld is so bad I need street signs to find the dotYou can just max brightness on the dot and the bloom serves the same purpose without being cluttered nonsense. >muh chinks are tactical geniusesThe absolute state of eokek users
>>65636128Not really. A 65moa ring exps is more blurry for me than a T2 naked. A single dot exps without the ring might be better because the dot is substantially smaller than 1moa. Your eye can’t perceive anything smaller, so it looks like 1moa but with an astigmatism I think it would still appear like a crisp 1moa dot. The problem with a holographic ring is that it uses hundreds of tiny dots which can individually bloom and create a cascading smear effect. With glasses or a magnifier it cleans up nice but that’s not the point. >>65636321Ring is good for close quarters and passive nvg. It’s not distracting. It’s kind of the entire reason Olympic shooters use aperture sights.
>>65636342>A single dot exps without the ring might be better because the dot is substantially smaller than 1moaThis. 2moa dots as the norm is a sad state of affairs.
>>65636232I should've been more detailed.MBUS-Affordable-Quick deployment-Larger profile-Hard to switch aperture sizes-Durable polymerMBUS Pro-Pricier than MBUS-Slower deployment-Low profile-Easy to switch aperture sizes-Steel-Hooded front sight-Switchable match sight post-Works on railed gas block-Will scuff finish over time due to steel construction
>>65636338Not really the point, hombre. Eyes naturally focus on the middle of a circle. With a circle dot you don’t actually have to look at the center dot to be effective. Whatever is in the center of that ring is going to be where your eyes want to intuitively shoot. Take your index finger and point at things in the room you want to shoot at and see how hard it is for you to aim at them. Now make an O with your thumb and index finger and see how fast your eyes follow your hand. It’s almost comical how much slower a single point of reference is to follow than a circle.
>>65636336yeah same rules as home made guns now, assuming your jurisdiction doesn't have any other restrictions at the state level. serialization not required for personal use.
>>65635236
>>65636228Depends on how good you are at it.
My MBUS Pro rear sight rail clamp sheared off randomly and it kinda pissed me off>>65636387real, I need to paint mine though
>>65636380>>65636336actually i just looked into it more and unfortunately it looks like they are at best a grey area or just straight up illegal because the law considers anything you buy with the intention to make into a silencer, a silencer. If you purchased one in person from someone in your state then that might be legally OK but it's still confusing. I know that none of us ITT are reckless enough to fool around when it comes to obeying the law, and therefore we won't be buying or drilling out solvent traps.
>>65636387It's not that hard.>base color>let dry>dawn dish soap trick>next layer >let dry>wash off soap and dry>dawn soap again>next layer>let dry>wash and dry>finish with stencil to personal taste
>>65636438way too many steps
>>65636451If you don't want a smeared mess, you need to be patient. It's basically idiot proof though, since all you need to do is drizzle on some dish soap and then paint.
>>65636396What did you torque it to? The manual says 25 in-lbs.
>>65636464>drizzle on some dish soaptoo many steps
>>6563649725 in lbs. Came back from vacation and pulled my rifle out and it fell off
So can someone who lives in a banned state go to a free state and just purchase a suppressor?
>>65636498the thing is, with paint and with finishes, sometimes you need time and multiple steps for something to come out right.
>>65636511No
>>65636502Strange.https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/Broken-mbus-pro/124-279382/https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/12hhe49/mbus_pro_busted/
>>65636502What handguard? looks funky. At least there's no big ass HK logo
>>65636521And another...https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/12dz31e/iron_sights_break_too/
>>65636195My eyes are too bad even for an acog. lpvos and mpvos are fine though. I need a fixed 1x etched reticle optic in the form factor of a t2. Also I will not pay more than $200.
>>65636464>smeared messSmeared messes are kino and work fine. Don't overthink it.
>>65636514i just don't like the way dish soap paint jobs look
>>65636408>I changed my mindand literally nobody can prove otherwise. make fake & gay laws, play by fake & gay rules
>>65636521Yeah apparently there was a bad batch or something with improper heat treating. To be fair they were fine for like 6 years>>65636524Maxim Defense, I don't think they sell that specific model anymore but they still make 416/MR556 compatible ones
>>65636514I did it in one go with an hour between coats. I used a piece of cardboard as an impromptu stencil.
>>65636564Fuuuuuck. Looked up their other rails but don't really like em. I prefer the shovelnose look
>>65636598yeah it's a nice rail, at some point I can put it back on whenever which is nice but I like the OG look a lot. Keep an eye on tacswap and stuff, I'm sure one will pop up
Just go solid color instead of trying to do some goofy camo pattern. Much easier application and looks professional. Rapco field drab brown looks incredible.
>>65636665rustoleum dark forest brown looks really nice
>>65636671Terrible choice as far as solid colors go.
>>65636676subjective
>>65636681Not even. Might as well leave it black if you're going to go with a solid color that dark. If you just like it then that's all the reason you need but it's objectively awful as camo.
>>65636685oh yeah sorry, meant that is just looks nicer than black, but I agree as a camo it sucks
>>65636691I suppose I wasn't very clear in my original statement either. It is my favorite brown right now though.
>>65634242What is a more universal supressor mount option that many brands can all use, besides direct thread onto the muzzle which I don't want to do. Prefer qd of some sort which is why I went with the DA keymo. What would you recommend?
>>65636795>many brands can usea 1.375x24 hub? You basically choose the hub you want and just mount the suppressor on that, but you're married to whatever company you go with.
Does buying the same brand of bcg as the barrel matter as much if it both are from reputable brands and pretty much the same? If i'm buying a DD chf cl barrel, will it matter if I buy a BCM bcg for $60 less to save some money for ammo, or will it matter that I buy the $60 more expensive DD bcg? I've read on other companies sites that they'll pair the bolt to the barrel for better accuracy, but I didn't see that on BCM or DDs sites.
>>65636799Technically you're supposed to check headspace. In my experience, you should be able to get away with throwing in most decent quality BCGs to barrels.https://www.at3tactical.com/blogs/news/what-is-headspace-in-an-ar-15-and-how-can-you-check-it-read-on
>>65636798I see, thanks anon.
>>65636232Im gonna get hate for this. Troy.
>>65636844There is no reason to get them over literally every other brand. If you bought it without knowing then sure whatever but there is no reason to buy new ones.
>>65636847Only because they're too expensive.
>>65636847I like the hk style tritium sights, not aware of another company that makes anything like that.
>>65636871You got tritium sights?
>>65636877backup sights gotta work at night too.
>>65636903I don't think I'll be in a situation where I can't see my sights but I can see my target.
>>65636903i like this rifle
anyone with an MR556, what would be better in the long run, MLOK or quads?
>>65636232mbus pros or KAC if you wanna Instagram post like the Noveske Klan
>>65636955mlok. get a second shit stick and go quads
Take the USB C Gascap Pill
>>65636918that small window of opportunity is when the chicom paratroopers will choose to attack. >>65636954thanks
>>65635832Perfection, not the Gen3 though that’s gross
>>65637004I'll be alright.
Do we like pmags?I think I might like mine better than metal ones.
>>65635612Dip shit the cam groove isnt from bad qc or bad assembly you dumb fuck, learn ur shit
>>65637017I think Tim from MAC may be the dumbest stupid nigger ever of all time
>cloning the worst service rifle in the last 50 yearsLol
>>65637100Only ever had issues with gen2s
>>65637100I like that they can be had for $8 and I like that they fill out a pouch on my placard with no kydex insert better than a brownells but they also suck and I’ve opened up brand new ones at the range only to immediately throw them out due to being out of spec and getting stuck in my magwell among other issues. Just get brownells mags dude
>>65636799No.A2 (PBUH) would tell you that BCM is the way to go for BCG because of QC.Personally, I have a DD BCG and two Microbest BCGs.You absolutely can not tell them apart, at least not with the naked eye. You can buy a microbest on sale for like $85 (it’s probably gone up a bit by now) but if you want a BCM that’s a good choice as well. Supposedly Microbest is the OEM for both BCM and DD.
>>65637534A2 is DEAD and INVAILD.
How are houthis so fucking skilled? They have insane aim and destroy saudi vehicles from hundreds of yards away with RPGs and they climb mountains like nothing to ambush fighters. A2 found out the hard way.
>>65637100they're g2g but i only buy aluminum mags cuz I don't like plastic stuff and a good aluminum mag is probably better than a pmag because it won't crack. Either one is perfectly serviceable.
>>65637023if there's anyone practicing gunkata you know its chinese paratroopers. i'll take every extra advantage
>>65637551you watched the latest houthi kino too? >>65635713That first part where they climbed up the cliff right underneath the saudi mercs was insane
>>65637557Hilar.
>>65637100No they don’t play nice with pouches but I like the 40s >>65637534I can tell the difference between my DD and Microbest
>>65636954I don't.
>>65636955I don't have quad rails on mine (yet) but the mlok is actually pretty good.
>>65637562>That first part where they climbed up the cliff right underneath the saudi mercs was insaneI saw it. They're like fucking mountain goats scaling that cliff like it's nothing. Truly a formidable enemy.
>>65636955mlok for utility/weight, quads for looks. G$ SMR for vibes
>>65637639I'm kind of interested in that GFW rail that lets you hide a suppressor.
>>65637687shrouded suppressors are nice, personally I'm a glutton for punishment so I'm probably gonna get the sig ltaw. Not sure which suppressor I'm gonna get for it
>>65637580No you can’t
>>65636188refurb it yourself
>>65637715My Microbest isn’t the best machining. The carrier looks like it rattled around a scrap bin before they cleaned it up and sold it to the budget retailer. It works fine but my DD is nicer.
Shooter in Poland had an AR15
>>65637687I want that stock. Give me the stock.
>>65637860Why though
>>65637849Yeah.
>>65637895I’m gay
>>65637937We can tell that by your rifle you don't need to tell us.
>>65637943Better than anything you have ever made.
>>65637994Loool no
>>65637534I see, thanks for the info.
>>65638008Including this
>>65638054You have a redditrod
>>65638008Is the old school 3xmag still worth the squeeze?
>>65637803Do people actually DIY it? How?
>>65637528>I like that they can be had for $8So could brownells not too long ago. They literally just decided one day to double the price and everyone rolled with it.
>>65638071It was never worth the squeeze. You clearly want it so just buy it.
>>65638071No its shit compared to the eotech mags because of the lack of an adjustable diopter. Which are made in Korea is the main issue just like the OGL. Tho I do have a G45 on that rifle now with a romeo 4T but that's because I have like $450 into both.
>>65638100>You clearly want it so just buy it.I don't want it if it's not better than either the 3xc in terms of eye relief. Least of all if it's not better than the cheap-o Mrinary arms magnifier I have now.It does the job but I'm getting sick of it showing reflections of the reticle if anywhere half-past medium brightness. Unless all magnifiers do that, in which case I might as well pinch my pennies either way.
whats good arg, do any shooting today?
>>65638108>if it's not better than either the 3xcThat is also shit.
>>65638108>Mrinary armsthe fuckPrimary armsThis thing>>65638104>>65638112HmmVery well. Eotech it is, then.
>>65638109I have been playing deadlock for like, 3 hours straight
>>65638114I've tried finding something better than a g33 and it just doesn't exist. I wanted to love the unity 4x too but the eyebox is horrible. G33 reigns supreme.
>>65638118enjoy your saturday anon
>>65638109Got some family stuff going on, but once the little gathering is over, I think I might hop over to the range.
>>65638109Not yet I'm getting mags together and deciding what I want to shoot today. I'll probably get lunch first.
>>65638119M33 is better
>>65638109I was going to pick up my new can but the LGS closed today for some reason so I have to wait until monday.
>>65638406What can?
>>65638427KAC CRS-3 that just arrived there.
>>65638431Nice. I need to go pick up my new can too but I can't be bothered to drive that far today.
>>65638451What can did (You) get?
Thoughts on the new fagpul stock?
>>65638460Dead air mask. I asked a few weeks ago about what I should do about (somehow) being without something chambered in .22lr. I picked up a 10/22 and a mk iv in that time and the mask this past week.
>>65638478I hate dead air but the mask is a time tested classic for a reason. I know someone that has one and it's great.
Also, get a ultrasonic cleaner it will make your life much easier when cleaning it.
>>65638465The first thing they've made so far that I consider genuinely ass-ugly.It doesn't look like a magpul product. it looks like something shat out at FAB defense.
>>65638488Yeah the consensus around dead air as a whole seems to be to stay away with the exception of the mask. The lack of first round pop, being able to disassemble for cleaning, and how substantial it felt in person made me feel pretty confident in it. I've seen a few videos where newer/additive cans might be a hair quieter or are much lighter, but I don't care about titanium cans on guns I'll be shooting a lot and the mask has a long enough history of not being dogshit, so I just sent it.
>>65638498It's not a good looking stock but I don't think it's FAB defense tier ugly.
>>65638492I've had one for a while. It's just a HF jammer but I clean my bcg's in a simple green mix and it works great. Was planning to do the same with the baffle stack.
>>65638506While the newer 3d printed cans are nicer, they're much more difficult to fully clean which should be one of the biggest concerns with how dirty .22 is. It's way better to get something you can fully take apart and toss the baffles in the ultrasonic. There are special cleaners they sell specifically for the 3d printed cans however it's more expensive than just using simple green. It's a good can that you will enjoy. Like lighter stuff more for handguns like the rugged mustang but the mask is still light enough where it's not that big of a deal.
>>65638507Nah, that's pretty bad.It's the STR stock with advanced club foot.
>>65638540It's uggo however I don't think it falls in the same class as kikeshit
>>65638548That's genuinely gross looking.
Jews are incapable of making anything aesthetically pleasing.
>>65638548>>65638565yeah, you know what, maybe the new magpul stock isn't THAT bad.Still pretty bad, however.
everything fab defense designs looks like AI slop but real
>>65638548The spring designed to look like it does something kills me everytime
>>65638603It's supposed to reduce recoil. You move the spring to a different hole depending on what round you're shooting. It's weird.
Anyone else browse gunjoker just for fun? >bear creek lower>shitty red dot>shitty little laser
>>65638684Looks like bubba's gun show "special"
>>65635236Minnesota bros…
>>65638796Minnesotans are subhumans that shouldn't be allowed to own guns anyways.
>>65638465Reminds me of the Ash stock
It's kinda crazy how quiet the rhodie 6k is. I know it's not hearing safe but it's comfy even without earpro
>>65638887brown IDF soldier hand
>>65639099Apologize. Now
All of you doubted me,little did you know I wasn't even the first to come up with the concept. It's time for the world to get true pdws.
>>65638603>>65638613thats the shotgun one that actually reciprocates with recoilhttps://youtu.be/jbApKGZrnh4
My caracal upper is the best version of 416 concept
I still want a PSA Sabre25. it wasn't a fling bros
>>65638684its from a private collection, you wouldn't understand how carefully this gun was put together
I like the A4
>>65639207Same but the 512 fits the A4 vibe better than acog tbqh
>>65639210>Same but the 512 fits the A4 vibe better than acog tbqhCan't afford an acog type of take
>>65639213Buddy simmer down i own elcan spectre drs with comp m5 mounted on top
Anons who bought an AR, then an AK and realized the AK was better/more fun/superior; why and how did you come to that conclusion?My AR is ok I guess. I just can’t help but to feel like I would somehow be happier with an AK. Idk. It’s probably just like all my other guns. I just get one and wind up barely ever shooting it.If I did get an AK, it would be in 5.56 just cause I have more of that ammo.
>>65639229I meant to ask ARG, but you know what, /arg/ tell me why but just reverse AR’s with AK’s
>>65639229>ak in 556 Grow some balls get some testosterone and get an AK in 308
>>65639235I meant /akg/. Sorry again, my spaghetti.
>>65639132I hate this picture.
>>656392295.45 is a fun round and shooting mine is a blast. AR's are hard to beat though imo
>>65639229For me it was>22>30 carbine>FAL>a large collection of bolty bois>VZ58>XCRARs are nice lightweight toys, but a piston will always work. AKs are pretty robust but struggle with ergonomic issues. A bit of both is just right
How decent are Sig's optics nowadays? Been looking at the 4XT Pro and the Romeo 7, and I need to be spoonfed on a durable optic that ISN'T an Aimpoint product
>>65639229I'm good.
I should just move up to 308 and leave this little boy caliber
>>65637849Is that a garden gnome or she is just like really far away or something?
>>65639327Do it.
>>65639210>>65639213would a 50-200 zero even work on an A4?
>>65639319They're unironically fine.
>>65638796
>>65638796Great, another two years of posting fell for it again awards at eachother. I'm sure the people will love it.
>>65638406Get that shit quick you have 72 hours before they turn on the gay race communism and commence Woke 3.0
>>65639229>>65639235>>65639241I got into AKs first but switched to ARs after the Russian sanctions. I'm sitting on a mountain of 7.62/5.45 but I refuse to shoot it because I don't want to replace it with Azerbajiani slop. I enjoy shooting AKs way more but ARs are just so much more practical in the USA.
now gq is talking about buying shit.it's over. they are democrats!
>>65635245NO MORE CHINESE ARMOR IT'S OVER
May ayatollah vance curse you non believers inshallah
I just have XSapis now....
>>65639577old news ADEPT EMPEROR is where it's at
>>65639598Would rather have their Colossus plates. But I got my XSapis for almost nothing so Im not worried.
>>65639602Colossus is undersized and not true 10x12. It would be 7.1lb if actually 10x12 with edge to edge coverage.
In the case of a catastrophic world changing event, how much 5.56 is necessary to defend your home and your land? I know you can never really have too much ammo, but I’m just curious what you guys think.
>>65639617Well I need the large so
>>65639650you are the large
>>65638796Fucking Lutherans deserve it for unleashing a plague of Somalians on our land.
>>65639650https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH6bSszXcHwYou don't need a large
>>65639679you dont know how to size plates its ok.
>>65636232ERA-TAC
>>65639702Neither do you
>>65636877Sure did
>>65639633If you dont have atleast>60k m855a1>pallet of 40mm HE>pallet of LAWs>50 acre solar farm for recharging e-bikes>100 acre larp woods w/shoot house>air strip w/ hangar and attached aircraft mechanics>warehouse for armored vehicle spares>warm water port>fresh water well and processing plant>modest 300 ME SMRyou really seriously need to consider a different hobby
>>65639658Fakebin>>65638887Was posting your ACOG's UID part of the plan?
>>65638565The first gen Jerichos look really sleek.
>>65639702you don't know how to size meals
>>65640025oh shit now we can hack his acog
>>65640063
Anyone here have a thumper? When does an AR become thumper tier? Is beowulf still the go to standard?
>>65639300>ARs are nice lightweight toys, but a piston will always workI genuinely don't understand why you post in /arg/ if you're this against ARs. Is it because you relish in being in an environment where you can be contrarian? >>65640075Is this why my reticle changed to a penis last night? Can you guys undo that please>>65639577Nice bb clone
>>65640103>Does anyone here have a grenade launcher?>When does an AR become a grenade launcher tier?Wat.
>>65640103I would say you get into thumper territory with .450 bushmaster or maybe .338 spectre or whatever it's called
>>65640116>doesn't know about the thumper theoryyou're a retard dunning Kruger >Cooper was dissatisfied with the small-diameter 5.56×45mm NATO (.223 Remington) of the AR-15 and envisioned a need for a large-bore (.44 caliber or greater) cartridge in a semi-automatic rifle to provide increased stopping power and one-shot kills on big-game animals at 250 yards. The so-called Thumper concept inspired the development of the .450 Bushmaster, .458 SOCOM, .458 HAM'R, .499 LWR, and the .50 Beowulf, among other cartridges, all suitable for integration into the AR-15/M16 rifle/M4 carbine or AR-10/M14 rifle platforms.>Along the lines of the Thumper concept, Tim LeGendre of LeMag Firearms developed .45 Professional, the predecessor of the .450 Bushmaster cartridge, and later built and delivered an AR-15 in .45 Professional to Cooper.[22]
>>65640103I've been debating a .350legend build for a light thump.
>>65639384This isn't the quote what the heck is this
>>65640034They weren't designed by an Israeli tho, they subcontracted the work out to Tangfolio to make the parts and basic design to avoid "teething" problems aka Jewish tricks
>>65640120So you answered your own question. Nice job, someone is proud of you.
>>65640144I wasn't the anon that asked and the development of the concept is the not the same as the definition that delineates it, super retard attempting an insecure clapback...
You can tell it's schizo cabron
>>65640109>109Let's make it 110>i don't understandCheap entertainmentAK threads attract communistsSpreading the piston gospel
>>65640186>Cheap entertainment>AK threads attract communists>Spreading the piston gospelyeah so basically contrarianismYou deserve the reputation you have
its been a while my fellow Liberal comrades. All my bros got spooked from the recent midterm elections and they all went and got their own poverty-tier AR with matching suppressors from different sources.>>65635488>have ammo prices actually gone up since the midterms?went to local gun stores this weekend and it was busy as all fuck. The ammo prices remained the same.
>>65640182Since you insist on insults I'll just assume you're the bad actor and just gaslighting the thread
>>65640188CheckedWhat pilpul have you projected onto me this time
>>65640195>pilpulI don't think you used that word correctly>>65640192>not an insult>no gaslighting>no bad actorsyou're just annoying dude nothing to it
>>65640191For the first time in history: a boat anchor that's TOO small?
>>65640213>he's shitting up the thread and blaming somebody elseMany such cases. I'm heading innawoods
>>65640186>>65640188The answer is and always has been: get both.
>>65640228No. Fuck the ak. The ar is better and I’m not buying some piece of shit because a bunch of faggots tried to peer pressure me. Every one of you is gay. I’m not joining your gay club.
>>65640228I have zero interest in AK's
>>65639577>$10,000 worth of gun just to have it look like dog shit and never be shot Wewlad
>>65640224If only that meant you would stop posting
>>65640228Yes. An AK and an AR with the understanding the latter is objectively best >>65640244xcr anon could never
>>65640278Don’t agree with me. I don’t like you either.
>>65640228I trust my PTR more than I do my AK
>>65640281I don't care about you at all.
>>65640288Which AK?
>>65640109It’s literally an AR though >>65640186Internal piston is heckin valid reeeeeee>>65640188Seething
>>65640188Scatzoo carbon is a self righteous leftoid just like BB
>>65640290And that’s why you’ll never be as good as me.
>>65640308He isn't left, he isn't right, he's just a contrarian. Any leftist comments he may make is purely out of spite and not out of any ideological basis. Hence the XCR, a decidedly contrarian rifle made for South American contracts. >>65640302>literally an Armalite rifleIt is not>seethingno, more like sneering and disgust. I genuinely see dishonorable men as less than human
>>65640312No I won't be as good as you because that would require me to be worse than I am, boyo
>>65640327Worse at sucking.
>>65640324>less than humanWell isn’t that ironic
>constantly crying about off topic and reporting posts non stop>can't help but spam a completely unrelated gun in an AR15 thread
>>65640346>you're dishonorable and you actively make the world a worse place>yeah well y-you're brownyou couldn't have made my point better if you did it through starlink>>65640345i—hmmmm maybe maybeif the "m995" I bought weighs less than the ruag m995 does that mean it's real nammo or how common would faking it be? What's a nammo casehead supposed to look like
Daddy’s money talmbout honor lmfao
Honk snu
>>65640178>Retards use words wrongSky blue, news at six.
>>65640528Hi I'm gay actor Michael Douglas and I fuck men and love my xcr.
>>65639300>>65639229>Moist nugget>Saiga AK-100>SAR-1 AKM>t-91 >20 inch a1 barrel swapped to 12.5>AKB-23
>>65640228as a guy who has Arsenals, Zastavas, and been through AKs, fuck that AKs suck, ARs better in every way, the ammo was the only pro to the AK now that's gone and x39 and 5.45 are insane, there's zero reason for them. Zero. 5.56 ballistically is equivalent to 5.45, and x39 is only better at penetrating heavy objects.
>>65640563>x39 is only better at penetrating heavy objectsThis isn't even true tho
>>65635488sgammo was straight ripping people off, had 5.56 at 464 per 1k then bumped it to 540+ after less than 12 hours
>>65640569These faggots should be hanged for their treason and Jewish ways
>>65640565it is, take cinder blocks, shoot them with x39 and then 5.56. this is widely known....
>>65640548Still shooting through my Tula and Wolf stash. I bought a bunch when Russia invaded Ukraine and ammo depots dumped their shit in solidarity or whatever
>>65639229>AK was better/morefun/superiorIf we can get a drop in left hand non reciprocating charging handle for the AK, then it would be a very nice platform fully on par with ARs. If tomorrow we could get that, then I would ship off my AK to get it converted to STANAG so I can use my magpul shit. The railed dust cover makes the AK have a perfect cheek weld height with night vision with the XPS3 I have mounted on top.
>>65635488I tried to buy a box of 500 rounds from my LGS and their supplier is refusing to sell them anything because of midterms and also iran war.
>>65640534have you been showing the Hasan Minaj show recently?>>65640578ran out of Gold Tiger a year or so ago, miss that red primer
>>65640575which round for either?
>>65640584I'm gay actor Michael Douglas and I fuck men on Gay Wall Street
>>65640580>If we can get a drop in left hand non reciprocating charging handle for the AK, then it would be a very nice platform fully on par with ARsNo it wouldn't
>>65640609Wow, your response is very detailed. I never thought about it like that.
>>65640563For me it was always the reliability, everyone said my ar would jam and break and fall apart. My shit is tight. Maybe not the gas port but everything else is.
>>65640611Ywbby
>>65640308Weak bait, ashAnother rep on the stairmaster with kit on>>65640324Clearly I'm good enough at hiding my power level you can't figure it out. Not a high bar I guess>>65640356>uhoh he's greentext lorebaiting again>>65640534The Gay Michael Douglas guy is certainly a character. He probably has raped someone in a truck stop bathroom>>65640603Doesn't matter, double the mass it's going deep. A1 penetrates nicely but it lacks the bone breaking mass. Not that I've had a reason to shoot a bear in the face to test it, yet>>65640580That's basically the first step to the XCR, except you strip away all the bad aspects of the AK. I still wouldn't mind one with rock and lock lower for winter mitten usage
>>65640575I like that video a2 posted where they test various rounds through a structure. They take into account the spalling and show what it does to walls and going through walls. Super cool video.
>>65640691>Not that I've had a reason to shoot a bear in the face to test it, yetWhen it comes to penetration, velocity is king. Kinetic energy formula is literally 1/2mv^2 = KE. if you increase velocity you get more bang for your buck. I remember thinking like you like 5 years ago before I understand dick all about why bullet construction and all the other externalities and factors besides big boolet = better. I literally was an AK chud my whole life right up until I actually started shooting LMFAO
>>65640720I've killed a bear with 9.5 5.56Doesn't mean it's optimal7.62x39 gives you more penetration to reach vitals, and doesn't deflect off bone as easily. 5.56 has larger TSC and dumps energy more effectively in the first 15"; excellent for bipeds, not so much for face in critters with 1-2" bone to deal with for CNS or vitals hits. 855a1 nas3 is my 5.56 bear load now (3650 @ 16 BTW), but I'm still going to opt for 30 cal the majority of the time.I just don't think you appreciate how large the critters are here. I usually carry the 308 during hibernation time because the older bears can get hyper aggressive if they have bad teeth or got pushed out of prime feeding areas and are under mass
>>65640747nta but it really bugs me that we will never get real data about guns being used on dinosaurs. I want to know what my gun can do against a trex. The fact that this will never happen is perhaps the most distressing thing about the modern world.
>>65640755>inb4 crocsNot the same thing. They have remained unchanged for eons.
>>65640755Dinosaurs never existed
>>65640782You day that but this rock is awfully convincing. I'm pretty sure it breathed fire and had laser eyes.
It's 2030. Two things:1. The Iran War still hasn't ended. Gas prices remain high.2. The Democrats have discovered that if you turned women into tittied dinosaurs, they would produce fossil fuel as breast milk (somehow).A bill was written. A law was passed. The decree fell first on those the party deemed most responsible.
>>65640787This seems too specific to be a reference. Did you draw this? She has too many fingers if so.
>>65640797nta but it's copypasta
>>65640799I meant the picture but wow there is new pasta being written? I thought we were post-pasta.
>>65640787It costs you 0 dollars and 0 cents to not post this shit.
>>65640814>t. sentenced to being milked for gas
>>65640821My milk be gas.
should i buy one .223, one 9mm and one .22 ar platform? or just buy two .223s, or just a .223 and a 9mm pcc
>>65640747>I'm still going to opt for 30 cal the majority of the time.>I just don't think you appreciate how large the critters are hereI fully appreciate it but you don't seem to appreciate the basic math behind how any of these cartridges perform. In the scenarios you're describing, that nas3 m855a1 will perform more reliably and consistently unless you waste a lot more pounds and a lot more felt recoil to accomplish the same task by increasing mass and sectional density over velocity. I understand the logic because again, genuinely I had this train of logic for nearly my whole adult life/gun enthusiast life. I was unironically pro AK and bearish on ARs: you're preaching to a former acolyte. But if the function is to kill in self defense rather than hunting, which is totally a different thing than what we're discussing which is just raw terminal ballistics, you will get more bang for your buck (weight carried) with optimizing a 5.56 loadout or even 6mm vs .308/.309 uknowhatimean. If the logic you came to was derived from combining a hunting setup and self defense setup into one then I begin to understand your preference for .30 cal.>>65640755Agreed. I hope eventually we can kill mammoths again too at the very least, as a conciliation prize.>>65640763the only fair way to face a gator is with a percussion cap double barrel sawn off at night high on stimulants 1v1
>>65640935>hope eventually we can kill mammoths againneuschwabenland awaits
>>65640935>I hope eventually we can kill mammoths againI read this book a while back where they discovered mammoths in some cave. They're probably what carbon thinks are bigfeet. >high on stimulants 1v1This but without the gun I'm going bareback on this bitch.
>>65640952No then it would have the advantage.They're actively trying to learn how to develop animals from a combination of recovered ancient DNA and combining in some aspects of closer living relatives, in the thylacine case some weird rodent or marsupial from new Zealand and in the mammoth's case idk if they got that far>>65640950I wish the world was as full of magic we some imagine it to be
>>65640971its more magical than you can imagine but you're never reaching enlightenment until you ascend past midwit political sperging
Primary arms give me a discount code right fucking now or I'll beat your ass.
>>65640980Fempen15 for 15% off
>>65640981They said I only get 12.5.
>>65640755I'd guess a 30-06 scaled up to half inch would be considered the 'tyrannosaur minimum'>>65640935>oh no he's retardmaxxingNot going out of my way to shoot critters with 5.56>>65640952According to the natives they heard trumpeting in the Brooks range up until the 20s. Fairbanks has an area with hundreds of thousands of mammoth remains and tusks, sabre tooth etc
>>65641048>Not going out of my way to shoot critters with 5.56The most bad faith, purposefully incorrect possible reading of that response. I always give you opportunity to disappoint me and you always take it, sheesh.>>65640973N-n-no you>>65641048>nativesWhich ones?
>>65640882Buy a Glock brand Glock and an 11.5 AR.
>>65641055The ones that lived in the Brooks range, retard
>>65641073do they have a name, smartass? Nevermind I did it for you, because you're such a useless dreg>Iñupiat>Alaskan Athabascans>https://cryptidz.fandom.com/wiki/KoguhpukI guess you just like vague posting as a general disservice and obstinate personality trait
Now watch this drive
>>65641085Maybe don't start the conversation with insults and you'll get a better result
>>65640763crocs regularly shrug off full powered cartridges across the planet including africa, asia, and australia
>>65641090Man Idk how true that is>>65641089Idk what comment you're referring to but it's not manly behavior to blame others for how you behave.
>>65641090>crocs regularly shrug off glancing blows form shit shotsYeah man I know. My friends miss every year. I've been watching people fuck it up for longer than you've been alive. I hope you will be the change but I'm not emptying my pockets just yet.
>>65641105Stop shooting crocodiles and alligators they dindunuffin
>>65640787Finally a reasonable political take.
>>65641104>>65641105their osteoderms cover most of their body and are destroyed by gunshots, but do significantly less damage to the crocodile by deflecting the slug, if you shoot them in the brain they die. but it is very well protected by thick layers of bone and small
>>65641113I literally think they're the coolest. No I don't shoot them, I could but that just seems really sad to me.
>>65641129>>65641129>>65641129>>65641129New bake
>>65640138>2 sexiest pistols ever are both Italian designsThey just can't stop winning.
>>65640130It kills durr gud
