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Why'd the last thread get nuked. o:
Not sure I'm still up for it. If midterms are a sign of the direction this country is going, I'm not sure I'm up for WW3 against mobiks. Plus the mandatory vaccines is a no-go and I don't really want to be away from my family for 9 months. The fact that the entire command structure are vaxxies. Not sure what to do next. Also the recruiters are worthless. They did zero recruiting. I've had 1 single face to face 2 minute conversation with an officer and it was just him being polite while I waited for the paperwork to go through. They don't promise you anything, they don't sell you on the idea at all.
How hard is it for a kid out of high school to get a mechanical/electrical job on a submarine?I'm a Marine vet and the MOS I had was willingly given out like candy, and usually as a punishment (radio tech), and I have no idea what it's like in the navy for people trying to work on subs.My brother is in high school and is interested in this after graduation.tl;dr is it competitive/hard to get a technical enlisted role on a sub or will they give you a contract just for showing up to a recruiter?
>>65639044lol if he wants to be on a sub he’ll get it
>>65639044>tl;dr for a 3 sentence postalso anon is it that hard for him to tell his recruiter this and see what he says?
Am I fucked? I’m shipping to OSUT in February, 11x. I’m on an OP40. Currently running 5 miles at around a 9-9:10 pace. I can run further that relatively easily, but that’s my pace for the 5 mile. I’ve heard conflicting stories of some guys run times improving in OSUT, others getting worse. I want to be at around a 37-38:00 5 mile by the time I’m done OSUT. Is this possible?
>>65641919You have 3 months not including February and including the rest of this month, then however long OSUT is these days (it was just changing to 22 weeks when I went through, idk what it is now). That's easily 6 months total, at least 3 of which you will be forced to PT daily and hit a decent amount of volume. Probably enough time for you to adapt enough to hit the pace you need, but be as consistent as possible with your workouts before you ship so you have as much volume base under your belt as you can beforehand.
>>65641925Yeah that was my thought, if I had 6 months of consistent training I am 100% confident I could easily hit that target, but from what I’ve heard there actually isn’t that much running in OSUT, 1-2 a week and never over like 4 miles. So I’m a little nervous.
>>65641929Take this with a grain of salt since I went through a long time ago but a lot of people end up running their fastest 2 mile times ever while in OSUT just because of the forced exercise regimen. The longest run you'll do is probably a 5 mile formation run but you'll do plenty of 30-60s, 60-120s, other formation runs, release runs, rucks, and random sprints up the hills and shit. It won't make you an Olympian but it will shave seconds to minutes off your run times depending on where you're at.
>>65636304My Sgt. wants me to go to BH. "I've never seen anyone frown like you, Anon."
>>65643842What's BH? Bounty Hunter?
>>65643888Booty Hunter. Anon has to get instructed by a head doctor how to most efficiently hunt the booty stuff.
>>65643888Behavioral Health. This has just not been a good week... Month, months and I'm exhausted.
>>65643922Why?
>>65643928It's been a whole host of things but in all I'm just tired and pained by this all. Maybe I ought to see BH. But I know if I open up like they will want me to, I'm out.
Taking USMC/OCS questions for the next few hours. Happy preemptive birthday my fellow crayon connoisseurs.
>>65643934False premise. If you just want help taking care of a few problems, they'll be able to point you in the right direction. It could be literature or a hobby or a group session thing.
>>65643974What was your oar score
>>65639044Like the other anon said if he has a high enough asvab score for whatever job he’ll get it, subs are usually undermanned and seen as a pretty demanding job>>65636572This is probably bait but if you don’t like vaccines the military isn’t for you. Besides all the shit they pumped us with at bootcamp they made us get overseas shots before deployment and then made my whole unit get the flu shot last week
>>65644505You got your shot too? We had about ten people out with bad reactions. One had to go the hospital for one.
>>65636572Same stupid Robert bullshit cope.If you sign up now, you’ll spend half your contract under Trump (and whoever replaces Hegseth). You’ll have maybe a year under a Democrat president, and then you’ll be outprocessing.
Bad Runner here. Three more weeks. I'm on the second to last annex and it's the hardest robot of them all. After that, it's the easiest of them all - the senior class get to sleep in it. I also, finally, got my projections - JBER, Alaska. My dad went there back in the 80s we his first unit too. How odd.What has been going on in the last few weeks? My classmate said Trump did a thing and now we're actually goingnti war with Iran.
>>65645341Why would any of that make a difference?
>>65645723Some people want to serve under a Republican President.Some people want to serve under a Democrat president.These are opinions I hear from normie civilians. The truth is it doesn’t matter either way, and, if you stay for 20 years, you will serve under both, so who cares?But right now, if you want Trumpy as Commander-In-Chief, you can still do half a contract under his term.
>>65639044Yeah if he has a non-retarded asvab and wants subs he'll get it
If anyone has questions about being a Navy Pilot or applying to OCS/Flight school I'll be actively checking 4chan for a bit.
>Western European militaries require an extensive interview with a psychologist for any enlist>Fucking 30% failHow do these militaries even function?
>>65641919>joining the US Army in 2026 >11x OP40 Lol
>>65646705They don't, to be frank. That's why we cover it.
>>65646705>>65646922I'm still somewhat active on Dutch DOD forums and the reasons people got rejected for can be absurd.>Still think about an ex every two months>Not bothered by a traumatic event (sign you're bottling up)>Havent had a job in two months>Didnt have a weekend job when you were a teenager>Only have five good friends>havent had a relationship yetThese psychs are the exact same people who go into HR.Meanwhile Eastern Europeans and Finns just take everyone
I’m a really fit 28 year old (29 in 4 months)In fact, I’ve had fitness as a hobby for over the last 10 years.I’m also quite small at 5’7 and 140-145 lbs.If I ever want to join the military, I’m pretty much running out of time right? I feel like the recruiters would love me (I even look like a 20 year old) but I know there is a cut off age and even then I’m not sure how the various branches feel about guys closer to the upper age cutoff and what unique challenges older guys face.Always wanted to be a marine but these days I might just settle for the national guard if I even do anything.
>>65646976Dont worry, anon. With how AI is progressing, they'll either cure aging, OR you'll be drafted in the coming terminator wars. Either way, you're gonna join.Also wasnt there a SEAL who joined at 33?
>>65647088I'm thirty and the recruiter only asked if I could do twenty push ups. I did, and he carried on with the interview. We've got two fellas older than me in the company. A thirty seven year old, and a forty four year old. Both have AFT Scores around 450, where's mine is about 390-400.
>>65647109I mean the average Ukrainian soldier is in his mid 40s, so it's definitely doable.
>>65646968Why have psych evaluations? They don't trust their people. That's why.
>>65646968>reasons people got rejected for can be absurdWait, Dutch applicants actually get told the reason they failed their psych-evals?That seems unusual.
>>65647115Yeah, so you can improve for next time. Like if you get rejected for not having a job yet, you can then work for a year and then try again to join the forces.This only happens because you can get rejected for some benign reasons, not because you're an unhinged lunatic.I have no idea why they do this, but it seems symptomatic of most western EU forces. They've got manpower shortages, attrition issues (which ironically have gotten worse after conscription was abolished in 1996), and it's not like the result is a force that's quantitatively inferior but qualitatively superior to the US or Eastern European NATO countries. On the contrary.
>>65646968My experience with Europe as a whole is that there simply are not enough decent opportunities for each young person, which makes everything crazy competitive to the point that it’s completely disheartening. Which is sort of becoming the case in the USA too, slowly.Europe is a bunch of 6’3”, intelligent, clean-cut young white dudes who struggle to find a job that pays for an apartment and doesn’t entail working at a petrol station. You go to McDonald’s in Europe, and the employees are all tall, fit, white dudes, unlike the USA where we relegate such jobs to fat black women.It’s a little dystopian to think that the guy flipping my burger there would probably be a middle manager at Goldman Sachs if they were born in the USA.
>>65647126What kind of fucked up projection is that? Only Americans ever complain about not being able to get a job or afford a house.
>>65647137If you ever spent considerable time in Europe youd know what I’m talking a bout
>>65647146> McDonald’s in Europe, and the employees are all tall, fit, white dudeswhat fucking Mc Donalds did you go to? it's all arabs and other shitskins doing those kinds of jobs around here>not being able to get a job or afford a housethe job part is blatantly false in most of Europethe not being able to afford to buy a house is no more or less a problem in comparison with the US but rents are a lost tamer compared with the US
>>65647137The other anon is exaggerating a lot, but it's true that Europe generally offers less opportunities, and its enterepeneurial and "can-do" spirit has atrophied a lot over the decades.This holds true for the military as well. I'm not a burger so i dont have experience with recruitment process there, but what i gather they actually want you to join.Also in the cities most McDonald's are all sandniggers or other minorities. However, my local rural McDonald's has a very qt Dutch cashier who actually managed to heightmog me at 6'3
>>65647123It's almost like the dissolution of the Soviet Union had knock on effects not just to themselves but to their former enemies as well.
>>65647174waar op God's groene aarde vind je een landelijke McDonalds?
>>65647170>what fucking Mc Donalds did you go to?>it's all arabs and other shitskins doing those kinds of jobs around hereOutside of the major cities (shitholes) like Paris, most of Europe doesn’t even have enough shitskins to staff a McDonald’s. They all just run kebab shops that serve questionable meat. I have personally walked into a McDonalds in Europe with literally zero non-white or fat employees. You probably find that anywhere in the USA.>not being able to get a job or afford a house>the job part is blatantly false in most of Europe>the not being able to afford to buy a house is no more or less a problem in comparison with the US but rents are a lost tamer compared with the USHousing might be more affordable, but wages are way lower and theres hardly any way to move up the social ladder College doesn’t do a fucking thing cuz everyone gets free college. Although college doesnt do much in the USA anymoreTheres less opportunities in euroland and arguably better human capital its brutal
>>65647184Langs de A12 bij de grens, waar veel Duitsers overheen rijden.
>>65647186>doesn’t even have enough shitskins to staff a McDonald’ssmall town Poland is hardly the reference point for the continent.>theres hardly any way to move up the social ladderthere's plenty for those that want to.the problem is that most don't want to.most don't pursue higher education (university and "university" of applied sciences graduates make up at most 1/3 of the working population), most of those that do get a shit master that hasn't got any market value.if you don't want to study you can start a business (not as smooth sailing as in the US but the paperwork ect. is still manageable) or get into the trades.most don't want to though, getting a nice 9 to 5 sit down job that earns enough to live their life with their 1.5 vacations to the med a year and they are contempt >less opportunities and you recon that any random burger has a fair shot at getting one of those wall street jobs? what we do have is a culture that values having free time more than busting your ass.I've worked on both sides of the Atlantic. in the US firm I worked for the culture was one of taking as little PTO time as you could and to always do everything you could to get ahead of your numbers.in Europe your vacation days are mandatory and if you don't take them the company gets fined so they will make you take them. overwork also isn't worth it nearly as much because what ever you get as a raise gets eaten up by the taxman so people are much more interested in life-work balance
>>65647188maak dat de Duiven waar gij zeven(r)aarmaar het is wel waar heel dat grens gebied is no heerlijk blank. stelen de Duitsers nog steeds fietsen?
>>65647213ja ik wilde niet Duiven zeggen maar goed, het is dus wel zo. We hebben nu zo'n obesitasplein daar met allerlei ketens die uit amerika zijn overgevlogen.En nee, geen moffen gezien de laatste tijd.
>>65647217>hij woont in Duivenhet wijn dus niet alleen de Nederlandse familie namen die raar zijn. hoewel wij zittten met de annale driehoekmaar ja de concentratie van fastfood zelfs in landelijke gebieden baart zorgen, ik zie het ook in landelijk Vlaanderen.
>>65647225>>65647217>>65647213Dutch is a fundamentally unserious language
>>65647170>"it's all arabs and other shitskins doing those kinds of jobs around here"Same here in Sweden, usually.But I did visit one where EVERY SINGLE worker (8-10 of them) was a smokin'-hot blond chick in their late teens - mid 20s.Clearly, whoever was in charge of hiring staff at that particular franchise had a type, and presumably running some kind of scheme to build their own McHarem.
>DEP meeting tomorrowI hate this
>>65647225>>65647217>>65647213>>65647188>>65647184
>>65647311We hebben een serieus probleem
>>65646968From what I heard from friends in the Bundeswehr, they'll take pretty much anyone with a pulse and no serious criminal record.
Hi, my brother is working on a gas station. So it would be not hard to be a a refueling officer on a Strato tanker. How long is the cross training?
>>65647432Bundeswehr disqualification is around 30% now as well. Used to be around 5%, no idea what happened
>>65646976You sound similar to me. I joined at your age. Had guys older than me in my basic training. Most people thought i was early 20s or fresh out of high school like them until I told them my age. Nicknamed "grampy" in Basic. Was genuinely impressed how out-of-shape zoomers were. I was top 3 for running. Ironically, a guy older than me smoked me, and a previous cross country runner were the only 2 who beat me. I had the same mindset you did, figured I was running out of time if I ever wanted to join. Met some good people but ultimately realized the military is very dysfunctional, and a lot the careerist and people who stay are are genuine pieces of shit.I don't regret doing it. Had a decent job, got a TS that got me a better job on the civilian side. Had some good times, but dealing with the actual military stuff was the most annoying part. Also got pretty out of shape while I was in and weighed more than I ever did in my life. Been getting back in shape since I've been out.
Just put in my claim for tinnitus. Should have done it 20 years ago. I had no clue about "high-risk MOS's". I'm gonna get a 10% rating and save $15k buying a house.
