Yo bros what’s a common enough double barrel that’s affordable and durable? They’re like 3x the price of a Maverick 88 and I’ll see the fancy ones that boomers like for thousands of dollars.
>>65637341CZ outsources their shotguns to the turks.
>>65637341Find a used Merkel or AYA
Mossberg actually sells a maverick o/u for some reason.It is also Turkish
>>65637341Look for a used savage stevens 311, you can find them for 500ish bucks and it's way better than any turkshit in that price range
>>65637341Go to gun store/pawn shop/gun showFind SxS Google the name on the sideResearch If its good, buy itIf not, repeat process
>>65637341just get a mav88>>65637350why do you have that saved you nigger
>>65637641funy
>>65637341A lot of old European doubles get imported for reasonable prices.Simpson may not have the best prices but it's a decent place to get a bearing of things.https://www.simpsonltd.com/products/category/Long%20Guns/page/1?subcategory=ShotgunsAlso RIP their old website, another fine old web style site updated into slop
What's better over\under or side-by-side, mostly preferrence?
>>65637341>double barrel that’s affordable and durable?If you want a good one that's less than $1k you need to buy a really old one. All the new ones that are less than $1k are outsourced from Turkey.>They’re like 3x the price of a Maverick 88That's the price of a design that requires hand fitting rather than exclusively machined and assembled parts.>>65637955>What's better over\under or side-by-sideO/U are easier to aim, which is why they are the meta in trap/skeet competitions. SxS are just beautiful and classic
>>65638009Side by sides are generally lighter.Also more SxSes have dual triggers if that's what you're into.
>>65637955Side by sides are very aesthetic. They both do the same job as just hunting and utility guns, and well, but over/unders are more competitive for skeeting.>>65638181Pretty sure I've seen over/unders with dual triggers.
>>65637341>cheap>durableAre Baikals an option over there? Soviet era Baikals are robust, simple and will outlast the owner with almost no maintenance.
>>65638299I don't know if they were hit by sanctions at some point, but I know that Baikal shotguns at least HAVE been available in the U.S at times.Pic related is a registered SBS which I think is a Baikal.
>>65638299They haven't been imported in over ten years and everybody selling them thinks "made in Russia" = $$$$
>>65638322Eh, if it was something less usual like those big honking 4-Gauge shotguns, I'd see it, because I think only like some odd 100 guns were imported.But for all the regular Baikal shotguns? They are cheap and rough (though functional) budget shotguns, it's funny seeing people put big pricetags on that. It'd be like putting a big pricetag on some old Jennings or Bryco piece of shit because they aren't made anymore.Wasn't Rossi import banned to the U.S in some capacity after some guy had a whoopsie when out hunting and managed to blow out the back of his head with both barrels? I don't see people asking for $$$$ for an old Rossi coach guns just because you can't import more ones.
>>65638218Yeah, more doesn't mean that O/Us never have double triggers or that SxSes never have single triggers.Just that double triggers are more common on SxSes
>>65637341my cz bobwhite still works great and looks great (except the small chip on the stock ;'( )
>>65638370Oh, I misread your post.
>>65638410>chipJb weld it
>>65637868Nta but I've never heard of these guys before. Cool website.
>>65637341Go to old west scrounger.
>>65637341Is the chink coach gun any good?
>>65638299My first gun was a single shot Biakal 410. It’s actually made really well.
>>65638818Brother you would have loved summit gunbroker and that one guy that sold Czech ZKMs and SKSes and such.Also RIP to SARCO's old site and to Cholly himself. It had real boomer character.I think most of these really come down to old men kicking the bucket
>>65637341>They’re like 3x the price of a Maverick 88because a mav 88 was designed in the 1950s to be cheep to produce using modern manufacturing techniques and is made by mexicans. Double barrels involve making sure the mechanism is beefy enough to consistently lock up after taking a lot of abuse, the barrels need to be regulated (Paul had some really shitty muzzle loader that needed 2 different rear sights because the 2 barrels were not regulated) and the designs are based on premodern manufacturing so they take more manhours
>>65637359>Mossberg actually sells a maverick o/u for some reason.they make more money on retarded memeguns than they make on real guns due to the fact no one hunts anymore and it's not like mossbergs go bad or they have a lot of repeat customers. They do know they have a brand name that's popular with poorfags, so they're using the mav name to import turkshit so they can sell "nicer" guns than the mav 88 at a similar price point.IDK how mossberg is still in business. Ruger has rifles that actually sell, even with the culling and henry sells a lot of retarded shit to retarded boomers and for a while, when marlin was dead, they were the only American made lever gun at that price point
I just got a sxs with a single trigger and some barrel inserts. Super short, fits in a regular bag and doesn't afraid of anything. Boito. Was a bit rough around the edges but it cleaned up fine.
>>65639758I see those cbc/rossi/boito Brazilian doubles around a lot and I can't lie I'm tempted.
>>65639785People shit on them but haven't had any issues with it. Polished up the insides a bit because it was a tad stuff but now it's smooth as milk.
>>65639639Which model? I inherited an Izh-18 in 12/70 and it is great. Lightweight, mechanically simple and also has the possibility to carry a round in the chamber without the internal hammer being cocked. Only issue is that the barrel has a fixed extra full choke, so I am limited to smaller shot size, if I want decent patterning. I tried shooting 00 buck trough it and noted that there was no visible damage to the choke or barrel, but the pattern wasn't that great. Maybe I should try some smaller buck sizes for better results?I like the fact that the barrel is chrome lined, keeps the bore in good condition with less maintenance. But that causes issues with machining choke threads inside the bore.Pic related, my baikal.
>>65637868They're "reasonable prices" because they assplode in your face unless you're autistic about picking archaic outdated ammo exclusively that costs $2.75 per trigger pull
>>65638299They're a used gun option. They're built pretty well. My Cabelas had the most fucking redneck Baikal I've ever seen. The stock was CNC'd with Jeff Gordon's name and number with the correct nascar font. To this day I wonder if it was done ironically or not. Kinda funny but they wanted too much for it. Singles are maybe a $100-150 gun. Double, IDK. Singles have selectable extract/eject and a cocking indicator. Neat guns.
>>65637955over unders are considered the better guns in terms of actual performance because they lineup better and the lower barrel has less felt recoil
>>65638320>>65638299>>65638322Trump needs to do the right thing and end russian sanctions so we can get cheap double barrels and x39
>>65639638it's just two toobs welded together how bad can it be?
>>65639728>IDK how mossberg is still in business.They are a private company; no shareholders means that they just need to be in the black, not make more profit than the previous year every year (until its unsustainable), or the shareholders panic and dump all the stock.
>>65637341Fu. I want a QUADRUPLE BARREL shotun!
>>65640139Just don't be a retard and buy one new enough to have at least a 2 ¾ chamber.There's plenty to be had.
>>65641415I need this right meow
>>65640110A gunsmith would be able to ream it out, maybe a imp. cyl. or modified choke
>>65640727>t. elmer fudded by a damascus barrel no name Belgian double
>>65643132kek i own some random dude's name brand spanish-made shotgun that and i've put everything thru it
>>65640110It was actually an Izh-18. I plan on keeping it forever.
>>65637341>common enough double barrel that’s affordable and durableIf you want a beater then whatever US market dogshit you can find at a price you can tolerate, they're all equally crap.If you actually want a nice gun you're going to be looking for an AyA No.3, that's an A&D boxlock ejector made by pretty good Spanish H&H knock-offers with a solid reputation. US pricing is fucky but you should find one in the 5-800 area. There's also the Yeoman model which should be a touch cheaper but not as nice, that's a clumsy gun for assassinating crows. Still better than a cheap US SxS though.
>>65641540You don't NEED it you want it
>>65645640Wrong.
