How does one lose half a million men in a small corridor? The US lost less on two fronts in WWII.
>>65641311The documents that were leaked only account for Russia proper and don't account for the two breakaway Donbass oblasts either, so it's much higher than that. I'm not sure if the Russian's are even accounting for the corpses still left lying around in Ukraine either and counting the ones that made it back into Russia to be buried
>>65641311Reminder that it's the floor, and also it doesn't count mercs, Norks, militias, etc.
>>65641316It's from the Russian statistics agency's servers. And it's just death certificates, the ones who went 'missing' (i.e. got droned) are not in there.>>65641311>How does one lose half a million menMeatwaves. It's not like we should be surprised, we've seen videoos for years.
>>65641311>people spend years trying to estimate Russian deaths >every new casualty figure causes constant arguments with people saying it's wildly overestimated>"there's no way deaths could be that high, a large portion of them are just casualties, hohol propaganda" etc. etc.>actual Russian government figures get leaked>it's even worse than the external estimatesI'm surprised but also not surprised
>>65641316
>>65641368the closest was the british intelligence estimate, which pegged 400k dead/1M casualties
>>65641311The Russian Way of War. they sometimes have smarts, and sometimes have fairly good equipment, but everything always requires mass and lots of casualties.
>>65641311And they said Afghanistan was "Russia's Vietnam".
It truly shows how completely soulless and subhuman vatniks are that they aren't revolting over this. At LEAST 450,000 sons and brothers who aren't coming home, or coming home in closed caskets, and I'm guess roughly a million or so maimed physically or mentally. For absolutely fucking nothing. This isn't like WWII where they had fucking eight-digit casualties but at least they were actually fighting for their lives against people that wanted to exterminate them; none of this has benefited them one iota and, in fact, their economy is getting fucked sideways by drone strikes and shit every week. They've got lines of cars going on for miles just trying to pull into the only gas station that still has any fuel in a hundred miles.And the Russian people just don't care. You could shoot a Russian in front of their own family and they might not even get mad unless they were a load bearing source of income for the household.The most morally and spiritually raped "people" on Earth.
>>65641416you saw the same thing in WW1, where neither side was willing to back down despite high casualties for little visible gaina status quo antebellum would make it seem like everyone who died, died for nothing so there was the unspoken, but widespread, belief that the best way to make their sacrifices matter was to secure even a token victory for the french, the germans were the ones on their land, so they had a more understanable motivation to keep fighting of coursebut for the germans they did actually keep fighting long after victory was no longer possible because they wanted to force at least partial concessions at the negotiating table to that they could claim that their army did something to show for all their effort
>>65641417Why would I be demoralized?
>>65641416I heard sometime this week a bunch of young men protested in Moscow and around 200 were arrested and received a citation to join the army.
I reqd they have lost 5 million men and 300000 women and 13 million casualties and 125 million rapes with pregnancies. That's like, alot. Somebody got rapes more than once times.
>>65641396IMHO you may be comparing apples and oranges. Like, afghans never went beyond guerilla warfare, whilst this thing is a straght up war between two states with conventional forces.Afghanistan WAS the USSR's vietnam, but I dont know if theres been any conflict like this one, just one big country getting bogged down against a smaller one like this, no large-scale occupation or nothing. Some fucked up ultra crimean war, maybe?
>>65641421I read they have lost over 27(ish) guys.
>>65641311Also probably not including the Luganda and Donbabwe KIA/MIA or their imported jeets, africans, and koreans
>>65641439pretty similar to iran-iraq except for the parity
>>65641426Two things to consider1. The Russian invasion of Ukraine has already outlasted the First World War by several months2. Multiple belligerents in WWI suffered what amounted to national collapse, including Russia, which went a step further and collapsed into a catastrophic civil war that would have meant the end of their entire sphere if only the Entente had gone the extra mile to destroy Bolshevism before it became a threat. In fact it would be entirely accurate to say that the First World War was a contest decided by which side suffered outright societal collapse first.You don’t see that in Russia today. At this point, their ancestors were shooting the Tsars, meanwhile the average zigger is still more the happy to swallow a mouthful of steaming shit and ask for seconds.
>>65641430I heard it was a nightclub raid
>>65641439You realize Vietnam had a large modern military right? With aircraft, artillery, and tanks.
>>65641368>>65641311I don't get how it could 'only' be 450k. The ukies claim they're responsible for 50k casualties a month, and they've been at it for 60 months, not nine.
>>65641507I'm assuming KIA versus casualties which includes wounded and sometimes missing.
>>65641514Casualties include wounds you retard. And russia doesnt count soldier dead if they don't have their bodies, which is most of the russians.
>>65641507deaths vs casualtiesukranians drop a drone on a squad, sees 9 of them stop moving, and write off 9 casualtiesfrom their point of view, it doesnt really matter if they are dead or not since the wounded are either not going back to service at all or will only do so in a yearfrom the russian perspective, they do have to tally up the exact difference between wounded and dead, since the former need a hospital bed and the latter needs to be re-labelled to missing
>>65641507Those are 'only' death certificates. Do you think they bother counting every mobicube chunk left rotting in the field?
>>65641416oh they're very revolting, believe me
>>65641507both sides are retarded and lie a lot. who knew?
>>65641311I'm legitimately surprised the casualties are that low, I was expecting 1.5m KIA by now, I'd consider this a victory by Russian standards
>l-lies!>b-both sides!Pidor, pls.
>outs himselfKitai-gorod vanning status?
>>65641558It's only what's on the official gubmit certificate stats and excludes a lot, also certificates take time to verify and give out. Rosstats leaks says that after six months only 69% of ceritifactions are awarded.mercenaries and 'mercenaries', norks, donbabwae conscripts and the like are all excluded.
>>65641581>mercenaries and 'mercenaries', norks, donbabwae conscripts and the like are all excluded.oh yeah it also excludes MIA and all the people kept around as "alive" to siphon money off their payroll or whatever.
>>65641583IIRC, the only times the US ever took someone off MIA was because a farmer dug up a 60 year old jawbone and it turns out the guy was hit pointblank by an artillery pieceso the MIA list tends to stay MIA for decades or forever
>>65641426In other words, the sunk cost fallacy.
>>65641529I agree they are heavily under counting official dead. But I recall early in the war commanders were sending men to die and then cashing in on their death payouts. Is that not in much practice anymore? I know payouts are being undervalued lately but a buck is a buck.
>>65641603Yeah. about that...
>>65641592although at least the british had some reason, however misguided, to keep sending people to their deathsand its not exactly the sunk cost fallacy because they were making visible progress, sinking the cost had some benefitbut in the case of the russians, its actually just apathyas long as its not moscow that gets conscripted, they can keep pretending it doesnt affect them
Because I tell my guys not to take prisoners and use their wounded to lure out the ones that hide.t. still not taking prisoners.
>>65641505Most people don’t understand the difference between Vietcong and NVA, and think everyone was Vietcong
>>65641507Kia not injured
Attention!Zigbots are pouncing on every post on this topic.Unpleasant news.They lost 1% of their total male population aged 18–60 in Ukraine.Although these figures date back to August of the 26th year. Not counting those missing in action.So the losses are even greater.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost
>>65641628later in the war, there was no differencethe VC took such heavy casualties that they ceased to be a fighting force, necessitating that NVA regulars be used to fill their ranks turning them into a defacto arm of the NVA
>>65641311How legit is this number? Is this the amount of people that actually recorded dead? Are they counting the corpses they leave strewn everywhere and the guys they cube so they don't have to give the ziggers family potatoes?
>>65641655It's issued death certificates.
>>65641655considering its from the kremlin, its an absolute low ball
>>65641655its actually just the lowest number we can be sure of, the number russia will admit that are dead and gonethe number is probably higher when you consider people who were just vaporized by a HIMAR and no one wants to admit that
>>65641655This is the Russians own, official KIA count, hacked from their own statistics agency's servers.It does not include the wounded, the MIA, Donbass and Luhansk dead (like 300k missing from the population) and so forth. The Ukrainians number of +1.5 million dead and seriously wounded is by all means correct.
>>65641311Thise are rookie numbers. Still got a long way to go before matching the "great war"
>>65641311>The US lost less on two fronts in WWII.more bongistanis died in WWI than Americans died in every war combinedmore frogs died in WWI than Americans died in every war combinedmore russians died in WWI than Americans died in every war combinedmore nazis died in WWI than Americans died in every war combinedmore austrohungarians died in WWI than Americans died in every war combined
>>65641685Why is this?
>>65641440Incorrect, NAFOid
>>65641698Missing the Boris Johnson clones on there.
>>65641696American lives have value and Americans are smart
>>65641698I still can't believe Russia managed to take down Optimus Prime.
>>65641696You minimize caualties when any guy in the field can respond to any situation with huge amounts of ordinance.
>>65641311I was under the impression those were mostly monkey model Russoids so it's all good. Can anyone else confirm? I'm not well versed on the caste system.
>>65641698>Empire and the Rebel Alliance backing the same sideRussians confirmed to be Yuuzhan Vong skinwalkers
>>65641573do you even have guns or drinkable tap water?
>>65641711They can'tHe'd just take it as an invitation for his next visit to the front. Soon his mere presense will push the russians back
>>65641507>zigger doesn't know the difference between casualties and deathsRetard.
>>65641753>>65641645>>65641515>>65641526I know, that would make it ~2 million injured and a half million dead. I don't believe they're actually evacuating and treating wounded on the stagnant frontlines. I don't believe anyone hit by a flying grenade lives to fight another day or goes back home to Kirovskaya Oblast to work at the family tobacco shop. If they're hit, they're dead. So the ukies casualty numbers sound like major BS to me. >>65641558Exactly.
>>65641711There was an integer overflow when they attempted to calculate the number of BoJos destroyed, so it didn't make the cut.
>>65641731Maybe, but given how Russians treat the environment and the way the environment reacts, I figure the Vong would join up with the NR/Imperial Remnants to fight against them.
They lose tona of guys because they'll deploy to an area with no orders, no supplies, and no idea of what's going on.You see these videos of drones in urban areas and it's like one or two guys, that's who's operating in that area. Neither of them know what they're supposed to be doing, they haven't had resupply in weeks, and they have no idea if the enemy is 5 miles away or 5 feet away.It's retarded in every conceivable way. The guys that get captured have no fucking idea what's going on or what their goals are supposed to be. All they get told is "go here." And maybe they get another radio call a few weeks later to go someplace else. No updates on what else they need to do, or any communication or information at all.
>>65641764Assuming this number is up to date, accurately covers wanger, storm z, nork, and vassal republic losses accurately and involves no undercounting by the state to avoid paying death bounties, and that the Russian WIA are at a horrific 1:2 ratio of KIA to WIA, that's still 1.35 million causalities. As 450,000 x 3 = 1,350,000That makes the Ukrainian count of 1.5 million about a 10% over-count considering that only about 150,000 extra losses were counted. That's within a pretty narrow margin of error for a country that's bullshiting, especially since there's no way in hell the Russians count is accurate or over estimating their losses.That being said there is one possible explanation for Russian losses being substantially below Ukranian claims. That their KIA to WIA ratio is 1:1 or lower. Which would be horrific for the Russians in its own right.
>>65641311So if anyone going to post a source besides a single tweet from Cappy?
>>65641815>US K:W ratio in WW2 was only 2:1 (300k K/600K W)>when antiobiotics were still so rare that they had to collect your pee to get more of it, MEDEVAC was being carried back to a tent on foot or on a truck, and treating a chest wound might as well have been a prayer
The most horrifying thing about the Russian invasion, is that this rolling grey mass of ennui abducts children, and indoctrinates them into their soulless mindset, with the intent of throwing them into their next meatgrinder war. When of age, those children disappeared into Russia will be used as breeders and cannonfodder, to produce more bodies, and claim more territory. or maybe sooner, depending on how desperate they get.All these losses don't matter if they can lay claim to territory, and civilian populations they can break into their "culture" of apathy.
>>65641316a man on twitter made a post about it, also see this 4chan post! >>65641330
I don't doubt 450k a bit, and not to be too much of a zigger but how about posting the leak instead of making a shitty xitter screencap thread?
>>65641861https://rosstat-leaks.com/?lang=enI haven't seen any open access to the data itself.There's only this website with some nice infographics.
>>65641685>more nazis died in WWI than Americans died in every war combined>WW1>nazisAmerican education strikes again
>>65641416>This isn't like WWII where they had fucking eight-digit casualties
>>65641311I suppose the same way you lose 3000 men a day.
>>6564150750k was only last month. It varies from month to month but I think 10k was about average. It also is total casualties and not just KIA. Although Russian medivac is pretty non existent.
>>65641507>woah! Wartime kill-counts are BS!
>>65641971That's not really true anymore. FPV drones film their own action, surveillance drones film everything else, and the Ukrainians have an active point-based system of resource acquisition, where they provide visual evidence of enemy losses in exchange for points, which in return can be traded for stuff like more drones. This is the single most documented war to date, with the utmost highest accuracy in actual casualty rates.
>>65641942once a nazi, aways a nazi, btw nazis are dumber and have worse education than mexicans and mulattos
>>65641975Counterpoint: Ukraine is an insanely corrupt country. Wartime kill-counts are trash, always have been and always will be.
>>65641311If they lost that amount of men, how many men did Ukraine lose so far?
>>65641980Being corrupt does not corrupt video footage from the drones and transparent frontline.
>>65641985The ability to record kills does not mean that there are records of almost a million kills.
>>65641985Did the drone go off because he hit it or was it set off by remote for maximum comedy?
>>65641988>/k/ worshipesl Should be in third-person singular present-tense
>>65641988you'd know a lot about worshipping cows, wouldn't you?
>>65641990>Did the drone go off because he hit Yes.Unknown technology, blyat. For some reason Russians like messing around with UXO.
>>65641996>singular>/k/wut??
>>65641998
>>65641311Now check how the Germans, Russians, Japanese and Chinese did in WWII.
>>65641311How much are the Ukrainian KIA?
>>65642029About three times less.Which is also quite a lot.
>>65641764>So the ukies casualty numbers sound like major BS to me.They're certainly not entirely accurate but I think that most of the discrepancy is from the Russian side. See, you can massage the numbers quite a bit but it's prudent to cover your ass by keeping keep your "discrepancies" explicable. I would be amazed if the Russians weren't pulling out the standard playbook to minimize their numbers while still maintaining plausible deniabilityACHKSHUALLY those weren't our soldiers so those deaths don't count>Limiting statistics to regular soldiery and ignoring Wagner/DPR/LPR/Nork/etc. casualtiesACHKSHUALLY that entire squad never was seen again so we can't know that they're dead>Treating anything unconfirmed as MIAACHKSHUALLY they died for completely unrelated reasons>Ignoring "non-combat" losses, including things like disease, suicides, blue-on-blue, WIA who die in """field hospitals""", etc.>I don't believe anyone hit by a flying grenade lives to fight another day or goes back home to Kirovskaya Oblast to work at the family tobacco shop. If they're hit, they're dead.Vasili, who eats the grenade directly? Yeah, he's fucked. The buryat ~5m away from him who gets swiss cheesed? Also fucked, but he bleeds out or chokes to death on his own blood or something instead of getting blown apart instantly. The other three guys ~10 meters away who catch some shrapnel, don't get double-tapped and then eventually manage to walk/limp/crawl back to Russian lines? Yeah, they'll probably live. They might lose limbs to gangrene or walk with a limp for the rest of their lives but even with the abominable standards of Russian medicine and CASEVAC and a lack of corpsmen a lot of these casualties are occurring no more than a few hundred yards from Russian "territory" because of the glacial pace of advance which means that IFAK-level medical care is relatively close.>>65642029About ~160,000 last I heard.
>>65642038standard drone-dropped grenade is essentially just a hand grenade in lethality, so most casualties would actually be survivable if there was someone with first aid basics nearby
>>65641311ruslims have always sucked at war
>>65642029Very, VERY rough estimates here;Since none of the parties involved are particularly open and honest (especially the russians), I've based these estimates on several outside sources, mostly western military/intel estimates, and estimates made by various NGOs.Ukrainians KIA: 150,000 - 350,000 Total casualties including the wounded: 500,000 - 900,000Russians KIA: 800,000 - 1,300,000 (the 450,000 figure is the minimum possible number, only counting those formally confirmed as being dead)Total casualties including the wounded: Roughly 2 million.
>>65642055>1.3milly r*ssians dead
>>65641526>since the wounded are either not going back to service at all or will only do so in a yearHas everybody forgotten the crutches?
>>65642064Yeah. It's almost like the assault troops get sent out to die even if they're injured. They're there solely to die.
>>65642041>if there was someone with first aid basics nearbyIn a normally functioning military that valued the lives of their soldiers, and that had the capacity to evacuate them, yes.Men with relatively minor wounds like this would just get bandaged up, evacuated to a proper hospital, retire from the war missing a foot or something.This rarely happens to the russians.Hardly any of them are trained in basic first aids, and there are usually no means from them to be evacuated for medical treatment.So even relatively minor shrapnel wounds are usually lethal to them, albeit sometimes indirectly.Either because they bleed out and die from lack of first aid, or because they know that they'll just be abandoned by their comrade to slowly die from exposure and infection in a ditch somewhere. From the videos I've seen, most of them more-or-less immediately decide that such a wound is an unwinnable "Game-Over" situation, so they just shoot themselves or hold a grenade under their chin...
I know guy that basically the gamer from South Park just fatter and with only one leg because of the diabetes. (Anyone remember TuanHA and honor buddy crack for wow? ) Anyways this guy is too fat to do anything and is pretty proud to "cheated the system". He said that many are mia and families don't get news or Money, that the monthly wages are claimed as cash on the front line or send to different bank accounts suddenly. He mad he can't be a officer because he would obviously be a good one. He has German russlanddeutscher roots and sees himself as ayrian lol. And skimming the wage of dead guys is just free money. He's mad the state allows this and he is mad that he is not the one doing it. 3 people mia in your unit? 3 wages for you and the commander.
>>65641963..by making mspaint edits?
>>65641685yeah but they were fighting germans. the ukranians are just fancy russians
>>65641696americans live in an isolated continent with no competitors to their hegemony, they never had to fight a real war except for the civil war, in which 700 000 of them died
>>65642067>So even relatively minor shrapnel wounds are usually lethal to them, albeit sometimes indirectly.I think that that "usually" is doing some pretty heavy lifting in your post, anon. The Russians are certainly hard-up but the amount of trauma that can be survived "long enough" with just bandages and ethanol is pretty remarkable and frankly a lot of what the Ukrainians are using - especially in those zippy little FPVs - is pretty mickey mouse because that's what they have. A VOG-25 weighs 250g and has ~45g of RDX in it while a M67 weighs 400g and has 180gr of Comp B. An M67 equivalent device would likely have produced at least two and probably three casualties in your webm instead of just one.
>>65641988nah, nogunz worship them>>65642119the russians won WWII thoughbeit
>>65642123With america's help, ukraine will win this one too.
>>65641985Why do they always hit it?
>>65641558Casualties are probably at 1.5 million. This only counts dead
>>65641396Well Afghanistan was as much of a "spiritual" defeat for Russia as Viet Nam was for America, so much so that it is widely considered the first domino piece that lead to the fall of USSR. Conversely, Ukraine disaster seem to barely even bother the russian people and it will most likely end up being a victory for them regardless of how much they actually lost while achieving barely anything at all
>>65642139An unironic "fun winter" poster. My god, I thought you were all cubed. It's an honor, zigger.
>>65641396Yeah no, Russia is Russia's Vietnam
>>65641505>vietnam>large modern armyLel
>>65641988I don't particularly care for the ukies, but I despise puccia and ziggers with my wntire being and have been for farnlonger than their newest gay orgy in donbabwae. This 5 year 3 day war has just taught me to hate them even more.TZD means TZD my brown friend.
>>65642124America is on Russia's side in this one as well tho
>>65642161russia has been struggling for bodies at the strategic levelmassive potential manpower cant be tapped fully, because moscow is politically a non-starter, mobilizing that means actually interfering the thin veneer of apathy that keeps the oligarchs in power and able to continue the warits why they have been struggling with foreign fighters from north korea to fill in the gaps, because they want to delay using their population centers for as long as possible
>>65641507They inflate their numbers a bit because they include total culmulative casualties. That is, each day adds new casualties, but a single person could show up multiple days. The person is captured, then returned to fighting, wounded, then killed. One person, 3 additional daily casualty reports. My back of the envelop calculations>take Ukraine's claimed amount of Russian casualties, then works backwards from that. >Assuming 3 to 1 ratio of wounded to killed>400-550 thousand Russian dead.>Then assume that Ukraine is inflicting a 4 to 1 ratio. >Now we get 100-125 thousand Ukrainian dead. >Total war dead: 500-675 thousand.This current leak is right smack dab in the middle of these estimates.
>>65642187>Assuming 3 to 1 ratio of wounded to killedIt's currently something like 1.7 killed for each 1 wounded. Yes, more KIA than WIA.There's no casevac for Russian assault troops and where there's one drone there's 10 others on the way. Anyone seriously wounded dies.
>>65641588>IIRC, the only times the US ever took someone off MIA was because a farmer dug up a 60 year old jawbone and it turns out the guy was hit pointblank by an artillery pieceOh right. I remember in high school I was watching the history channel and a WW2 vet explained in a blunt manner what "MIA" means most of the time. He said that they're not just hiding behind a bush somewhere, it means that they were hit directly and there is little recognizeable left afterwards. That quote stuck with me.
>>65641311Such things are to be expected when your medical care and CASEVAC have reverted to Napoleonic levels.How big of a cube can you make from 450'000 people?Probably big enough to make a house where the residents scream because they do not know if they are made out of house or if the house is made out of flesh.
>>65642193there was supposedly an american living in italy, having gone AWOL and settling down, though apparently theres enough variations of that same story that is more of an urban legendif it did happen, it was probably a one-off anomaly and not the norm
>>65641507russian shills online trying to somehow do a gotch pretending to not understand the diference between kia and casualties is some crazy stuff, as if half a million dead is fine somehow
>>65641396It was, it's almost a mirror image, long occupation, casualties in the 5 figures range, puppet government collapsed as soon as the occupation left, and it caused political disruption at home. Whatever THIS is right now, it's much bigger. WWI tier probably.
>>65642176Yeah like I said
>>65641439Greco-Italian war
>>65641976>guns are not importantAnd that's why your excuse of a nation will forever remain the most raped slaves on the planet, HIVistan imbecile.
>>65641980Comes with being a post-soviet nation, the fix for that isn't being invaded by a bigger, more corrupt post soviet shithole that is the source of the rot
>>65641396>And they said Afghanistan was "Russia's Vietnam".The Iran Iraq War comes to mind.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulsujmrNEWU
>>65641998That's a first-degree murder right here
>>65641998ZINGER ALERT!!>>65642235Absolutely malding rn lmao
>>65642187>>65642192The interesting thing with a lot of casualty reports from Ukraine is that they can be proven out as the unit's accreditation is tied to demonstrated and evidence reports. Either by visual spotters or behind a guided drone, so as much as we get screeching about proofs, someone has those proofs and being their military BDA's, they sure aren't sharing with the rest of us open-int dickheads in real time or even without a long delay.Last month was to some extent a pain point given how many journalists and war reporters are getting 'shut down'They apparently got 54000 KIA/WIA and that's a bit of a striking number because historically, that's a dangerous number in Russian history because o the Battle of Tannenberg when the Russians in 1914 went into Prussia and got their arseholes fucking gaped. This was when the Tsar took direct control of the military and had to carry the responsibility for the war efforts, despite the fact he was a shit Tsar who couldn't run the country, let alone the military! But he picked up that bag of shit, incompetence and it sent him and his dynasty to the grave.History shows that Putin better have a LOT off niggas ready to throw under the bus for fucking it up, otherwise all those little dress up the studio in camouflage and he has meetings with Shoigu, Gerasimov and wearing their little gay green uniforms- that's coming back to roost. People will see the Tsar taking control and being responsible
>>65642139Ukraine is wired into the European network, so fuck you very much
>>65641316Currently trying to find a version in a usable resolution is a complete pain in the ass, but here's the original Russian version of the data that got leaked.Image search is being pretty useless at the moment, but I'll upload an actual useful copy if I can find one.
>>65642235>near-instant melty reply>"will gladly trades"You sound really upset. Maybe go ask your groomcord handler for some of your favorite CSAM to release some steam to?
>>65642192Is that a fucking bike with a sidecar at 00:03?
>>65642253>kaliningrad getting draftedPutin really is obsessed with killing every last zigger huh
>>65641607This is going to lead to a severe cut in the yacht budget for this year ((((((((
>>65642128The boring answer is that we don't see thew clips of the mobiks smart enough to take the lucky break a higher power has offered them and run the fuck away.The fun answer is the same reason they fell for the doorbell.
>>65641311>450,000 military age Russian males deadDoes this mean /k/ is getting Siberian gfs?
>>65642290>gay rape out of nowhereI estimate the amount of STDs in your body to be at least in double digit numbers, with half of them unknown to the rest of mankind.And it's your shithole who is known for possession of pizza being legal, and your brown/pol/ circlejerk being smug pedos with CP links in the OP.
>>65642290>I will gladly fuck you in the ass>This makes you the gay oneWant to give that another crack, anon?
>>65642312https://bearr.org/regional-news/shortcomings-in-russian-law-on-protection-of-children-from-sexual-exploitation/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_child_pornography#EuropeCP is legal in both russia and belarus because nothing says protecting the family and traditional values like having terabytes of perfectly legal child abuse on your pc
>>65642320I dunno anon, you're the one that wants to fuck him in the ass. I think that makes you the gay one.If I punch you in the dick, does it make sense if I then talk about how much you love getting punched in the dick? Because to me that sounds like I just wanted to punch you in the dick and your feelings didn't come into it. Let me know if any of these words are too big or concepts too complex and I'll be happy to simplify it further.
>>65642195>picrelWhat's his endgame?
>>65642340banan
>>65642139Is this even a real post?
>wanting to have sex with men is straight as long as you're the giverI don't think I buy it bros
>>65642350If poop has ever been on your dick, you are a faggot
>>65642350So the one who wants to fuck men in the ass is straight, but the one who unwillingly gets fucked in the ass is gay, did I get that right?
>>65641696Americans always wait for the situation to be favorable, after they've secured financial compensation, then join the fight to maximize their gainsIt is far from the country of liberty that it was supposed to be. It is the country of greed and war is just another market/investment to them
>>65641984Far, far less.
So was it worth it for Russia/Putin? What did they gain from this
>>65642139>It's going to be a fun winterFor (You) and yours that is, pidor.
>>65642297Who here could resist the siren call of the doorbell?
This thread turned very homo-erotic in a totally not gay way, really strange
>>65642282No, and that's exactly why the poorfag grieving families ain't gettin' nothin'.
>>65641507It does not include the MIA, Donbabwe/Luganda, and all the third-worlder mercenaries.
>>65642377>>65642381proofs? he's been looking a bit ill since the election
>>65642377>Trump announcedSo what I’m hearing is that Ukraine has taken part of the Russian mainland.
>>65642377>>65642381the orange rooster pecks crest anal hole)) xaxaxa)) any moment now the lobster will whistle and thusly, the testicles will twist))))
>>65641311>How does one lose half a million men in a small corridor?General willing to kill his entire army and soldiers dumb/willing enough to die to the last man. There is obviously tactical and strategic reasons but at some point it comes down this. Whatever the failure is it has been repeated enough that unless one is a pants on head retard they will understand every battle will involve heavy losses until whatever problems are fixed if they even can be.
>>65642139I have read the Gulag Archipelago. I intend to use it as an instructional manual. I hope to outdo the cruelties described therein once I am in charge of your concentration camp. You are going to have more of my DNA in you than Genghis Khan's when I am finished with you. When the lights are turned out at night, you will hear me coming for you. GUH-HYUCK!
>>65642377>trump announced
For those wonderin, Ukies droned the living shit out of tje Kirishi refinery last night
>>65642404>the "help, I'm winning" censor
Well if anything I have to commend the Russians for hiding a frankly ridiculous amount of casualties. Not even I could've predicted something like 450k dead.
>>65642419What's Eglint? I looked online and it brought up a biotech company.
>>65642298As long as they are posting from China and india
>>65642356It's the way ancient Romans interpreted sexuality
>>65642404Ahem, forest fires are regular this time of year
Interesting thing is that they don't consider this to be that bad. If they did, it'd be radio silence from shills for a day or two like the Meat Cube/Kherson Liberation/Spiderweb etc. etc. while they get their shit togetherInstead it's all gay rape this, freeze Europe that, right from the get go.That amount of dead is equal to 1 dead Russian for every 0.16 km^-2 of land.Here's a fun fact: that number 6.25 dead zig/km^-2 is only ~72% of Russia's population density of 8.6 live zig/km^2.So if these rates continue, by March 2028 if you dropped in randomly into the occupied territories you'd have a higher chance to encounter a dead zigger than the chance of encountering a live zigger if dropped in at any random point across the whole of Russia
>>65642433I will restate my questionSo was it worth it for Russia/Putin? What did they gain from this, no answers from schizophrenics.
>>65641698>no Boris Johnsons this monthFuck, it's actually over.
>>65642434But what if you consider the possibility of undead zigs?
>>65642434>So if these rates continue, by March 2028 if you dropped in randomly into the occupied territories you'd have a higher chance to encounter a dead zigger than the chance of encountering a live zigger if dropped in at any random point across the whole of RussiaWhat about the chance of encountering only dead ziggers while inside Russia? Because at the end of the day, thats tje only metric that really matters
>>65642434Russia is big tho
>>65642438Just treat them like imaginary numbers and count them as the square root of -1 anon, ez pz
>>65641977>asian americans at the topHow the fuck do they read with their eyes closed?
>>65642439100%, Pushkin was the one IIRC who wrote "To be born Russian is to be born already dead"
>>65642423>What's Eglint?Eglin Air Force Base. In their headcanon, this is the headquarters of the CIA's propaganda division. Tasked with portraying Russia in a negative light.
>>65641999>I'M RIGHT HERE, KILL ME!>doesn't go off>proceeds to manually set the explosive offAccepting your fate is one thing, going out of your way to meet it is another.
>>65642446Why not say he's from Langley or something.
>>65642449Too blase in the big '26
>>65641977>In GERMANY we don't need to read since the government tells us what to thinkYou couldn't make this shit up as a joke kek
>>65641507>'only' be 450kits notits just what the russian government is officially listing it at.and that and what reality actually is are 2 very different things.
>>65642038>suicidesit would be pretty funny if they didnt count those considering every russian seems to kill themselves if they are wounded even a little
>Green Valley>pre-war population 89>1536 death certificates issued
>>65642456>they did not die they donated themselves to the meat cube xaxaxa hohols btfo
>>65642433
>>65642290>threatens gay rape>calls others faggotevery single fucking time.>at least we got no rainbow flags
>>65642438The orb of Soledar?
>something burning in Russia again>internal docs on just abut half a mill of zerglings killed so far>neverending screaming about sodomy, rape and more sodomy followsBeing a vatnik must be such a surreal fucking experience
>>65642139Ruskies really say shit like this and then go>abloo bloo why ebil wect bulli innocent poccia((((
>>65642448a display of true bushido spirit, in some sense
>>65642449not reddit enoughthe eglin thing literally comes from 2014 reddit im not even joking
>>65641311>450k confirmed KIASource?The previous dead zigger estimates by russian OSINT (mediazona's 200) were lower.And the monthly development of those lower 200 figures was in line with Ukrainian estimate of 1.6M zigger casualties.The real casualty figure could be significantly higher than 1.6 million.
>>65642307>Russian/Slavic definitions of gay vs not gay>There are 2 men, 1 is the top and 1 is the bottom.>The bottom is gay because he is being penetrated, The top is not gay because he isn't being penetrated>Western definition of Gay vs not gay>here are 2 men, 1 is the top and 1 is the bottom>Both are gay as fuck
>>65642504>Source?Read the thread you dumb nigger
>>65642307>want to give that another crack, anon?Ass-crack, maybe
>>65642471>>65642512I wonder if it occurs to them that the evil rainbow flag countries simply allow you to not be gay. It's so simple. People that want to fuck ass or be fucked in it are gay, people who don't are straight, no need to remember rules or be on guard for a straight man trying to make you gay or whatever the fuck.Their shit sounds exhausting, and much gayer.>>65642529Oh I think he's already tried giving it to the ass crack, it's how we got here.
>>65642520I did but there is no trustworthy source, just telegram hackers saying TRUST ME BROThe rosstat hack currently being verified by independent media. We don't know if it's complete or even authentic.
RT is not independent media.
>>65641430>I heard sometime this week a bunch of young men protested in Moscow and around 200 were arrested and received a citation to join the army.I feel like if that happened, I'd have read about it on Ukie channels.They're usually pretty fast to post obviously true things that make Russia look bad.E.G. a veteran and his wife near Vladivostok had their apartment stolen, the realtors broke into the apartment, threatened the wife and crippled veteran husband with being raped/murdered, stole passports and keys and took her by force to the registry to sign it over. Police refused to prosecute a case due to "lack of evidence".When shit like this happens, I usually read about it straight away, there are Ukie journalists who comb Russian channels for this shit.
>>65642483
>>65641477>Multiple belligerents in WWI suffered what amounted to national collapseThat is the key distinction here. The Russian Imperial government fucked logistics and home front up so badly bread lines and food riots became fairly commonplace.Say what you want about Monke, but the one thing he has managed with flying colors so far is keeping the realities of the front something that exists almost completely in parallel to the average Russian's everyday life. Buses and trains are still going (sorta), food is on the table (kinda) and even internet and other entertainment is still mostly available. As long as he can keep that separation up, no popular revolt will happen.That's not to say there is no limit to what the Russian state can handle in terms of keeping normalcy or that there won't be a top-down coup of some sort if someone in Putin's inner circle gets brave and desperate enough, but for the immediate future I don't see anything changing, besides the casualty numbers going up and economy slowly spiraling towards absolute despair.
>>65642568There's a correlation by region of 0.9 from what the leaks exposed and what Mediazona are recording.
>>65642607Yeah, it's likely to be legit and Mediazona is already checking it among others.I was just making a point of not blindly trusting sources without any credibility, which seems to greatly upset poltards like 65642575.
>>65641507>certify soldier as dead>you now have to pay death benefitsThere are some perverse incentives at work here to keep the official count as low as humanly possible.Also, as the other anons pointed out, for soldier killed in action, historically there are ~2 soldiers wounded, captured or lost in action. The ratio is probably much lower, given Russias notoriously shitty casevac, but then they are also probably untercounting the dead by a lot.
>>65642256Yes. And it's fucking tragic that they're being destroyed due to ziggers. Those things are cool as fuck.
>>65641507>>65642646It's not that complicated. MIA is MIA.Nobody's gonna go pick up and identify the blown-up bits of private Zigger Ziggerovich Myasnoykubik somewhere deep in the gray zone. Countless such cases every single day.
>>65642361>It is far from the country of liberty that it was supposed to beThe good old days were never that good, just old enough for the reality to be unknown, direct witnesses to have died, and only the propaganda to have survived.The country of liberty would not have created the School for the Americas.Or overthrown a democratic government to install a puppet ruler in Persia.Or conquered South American countries to install brutal dictators favorable to US fruit companies.Or gone to war to protect the opium trade in China with forced colonies in their cities.Or slaughtered native tribes to steal their land.>It is the country of greed and war is just another market/investment to themAlways has been.
>>65642411That's a FIRMS map retard
>>65641311Russia could have saved half of those KIAs by just giving their troops shotguns.The fact we still don't see shotguns as the standard load out for Russian troops shows just how corrupt and inept the Russian leadership is.
If you were to include Donbabweans, Wagner, all the MIA that were in actuality vaporized by artillery, etc. do you think it tallies up to a million dead?Either way, that's crazy. Nearly half a million is WW2 numbers.
>>65642702>Russia could have saved half of those KIAs by just giving their troops shotguns.Shotguns > AKs would probably save a lot of mobiks but they have the AKs and after corruption is factored in, the shotguns look like picrel
>>65642730Only need one shot to blow your brains out, after all.
>>65642730>In the 18th century they would have appreciated it.>single-shot, single-shot, SINGLE-SHOT, SINGLE-SHOT, SINGLE-SHOTNew meme? I'm thinking new meme.
>>65642404Holy fuck that's a lot of red squaresImagine how many parades can Russia hold there
>>65642730>Eighteenth century>Single-shot, single-shot, blyat.>Anti-drone shotgun.>~haiku
>>65642702Yeah but have you considered if they give a shit about their one time use soldiers?
>>65641311yep, that's a good floor for russian casualty numbers, the real number is probably about 1.5x that.
>>65641977>"But nazis can travel back in time because... just because i say so!"It's okay, burger. Calm down. No reason to cry.
>>65642730>>65642736>>65642739This post is missing the best part of the shitty zipgun-tier shotgun story is that the russian MOD is paying the Kalashnikov group like 4000 burger-bux each for these "cutting edge anti-drone weapons".
>>65641311half a mil KIA implies another mil wounded, given the ratios there.
>>65642733>Only need one shot to blow your brains out, after all.Yeah, Z-bloggers also made that observation at the time.I think they called it a suicide tube.
>>65642733>Only need one shot to blow your brains out, after all.Unless you fuck it up....
>>65642139>It's going to be a fun winterDid Russia ever get round to repairing all of the heating facilities that blew up last year because they could no longer be properly maintained as all the engineers had been drafted and killed?It's not like they can use generators for back-up power and warmth this year either, because there's nothing available to power them with; so if they've neglected to maintain what they have and fix what broke, we're probably going to see a lot of interesting videos coming out of there by the start of January.Assuming they don't turn of the internet again, of course.
>>65641325>The documents that were leaked only account for Russia proper and don't account for the two breakaway Donbass oblastsOr Wagner. Ouchies
>>65642795I wouldn't worry about it
>day 1226 of the three day special military operation to take Mexico>The U.S. has been bogged down a couple hundred miles into Mexican territory for the last 3 years after failing to take Mexico City at the start of the invasion.>Seals, Delta force, and army rangers were completely wiped out in the first few weeks of the invasion.>BRICS continues to fund and supplement Mexico’s defense by providing weapons and aid packages>The U.S. has used up essentially its entire inventory of modern aircraft and land vehicles that existed prior to the war.>Mexican drones sunk the navy>Mexican drones regularly destroy billions of dollars worth of American infrastructure and domestic produce in the mainland USA>over 1 million American casualties, at least 450k dead (so far).>America intends to see the war through until Mexico City is captured.It sounds like a nightmare fantasy but this is basically what’s happened to Russia.
>>65642850>Chinese aid to Mexico is complicated by the election of President Hong Xiuquan>Hong tells Mexico's LATAM allies to step up
>>65642850What would be the BRICS version of Boris Johnson?
>>65642702>>65642730>>65642772Consider that the alternative is an AK and they might want something reliable for their suicide.>>65642792>Unless you fuck it up....many such cases, not even all suicides
>>65642795>we're probably going to see a lot of interesting videos coming out of there by the start of January.Ukrainian analysts think that Russian attrition is going to be primarily weather based with relatively fewer ziggers advancing to be droned.
>>65641376they don't even have mass anymore. As geriatric as the rest of the old world while even swamp pajeets have more raw meat, significantly younger at it, than them
>>65642792>Unless you fuck it upOr your colleague does. Does anyone still have that video of some mobik trying to finish off his cumrade and his aim is so bad he somehow first shot him in the crotch before finally hitting the noggin?
>>65641416>not my problem
>>65642139>Oh noes a couple hundred thousands mystery meat mongoloids from bumfuck nowhere oblast deep in siberia died whatever will we do Russia is finishedIf a couple of hundred thousand people from anywhere in my country died and the people responsible were our political class, we would tear the ones responsible limb from limb in the streets.>it take solace in knowing that as payback ukraine energy infrastructure have been obliterated. It's going to be a fun winter I am currently sitting in Kyiv with electricity, water, hot water, heating, and internet. Restrictions haven't been applied for several days because everything got fixed. There's one suburb that's still out and they're currently making a lot of noise in the streets about it and it's a national scandal that the president has had to weigh in on and there are currently police raids on the people who fucked up.Coke and Pepsi are still hard to find in big bottles though, the ziggers caught a break with that strategic victory.
>>65642866Vladimir Putin. In this universe, everyone still associates him with the WIDE PUTIN meme and the semi-ironic 2010s era hype about him being a real-life Bond villain.
>>65641439iraq-iran war zoom zoom
>>65642208pidor union didn't collapse because of afganistan. lol get real. it collapsed because Muscovy imperial heart became weak and destabilized. afghanistan and even chernobyl were just a side show to the lack of political will to keep it together with terror, repression and bloodshed
>>65642880My biggest concern in this war is that Russia is actively recruiting thirdies for their military and eventually, since they have an endless supply of cannon fodder, they'll defeat the Ukrainian troops. The problem I have with the Europeans is that they aren't sending troops to help Ukraine.
>>65642896>Coke and Pepsi are still hard to find in big bottles though, the ziggers caught a break with that strategic victory.How about blueberries?
>>65641698where are the boris johnsons?
>>65642702you need more zinc in your diet anon
>>65641330took me an insane amount of translating shit to find the sourceturns out Rosstat said that they were hackedand here the things gets funny the belarusian group said its 239k based on crosschecking people via social media and telegram posts to see if they were in the military or fighting in ukraine the crow one said its 450k based on russia's own data but the funny thing is that rosstat doesnt have any control on who died on what or where thats up to what they call the military commissariatsthe guardian reported 412k the bbc + the ukranians reported 282k
>>65641815>accurately covers wanger, storm z, nork, and vassal republic losses accuratelyit dosen't. it does not count them at all. Or the cumniks gang pressed from pozzia and then forced into the ranks of the donbaweans to cover the holes
>>65641368Wait until you open your eye on the open secret of the russian culture and realize that primary sources and government statistics are literally all lies and whitewash reality. There's a reason why they've been beating up and jail people for going around and photographing graveyards _since 2014_.
>>65642041>so most casualties would actually be survivable if there was someone with first aid basics nearbyso its a guaranteed kill dropped on pidors
>>65642460>Somme-tier level of KIA over a single street with 2 dozen housesThis can't be fucking real.
>>65641327It's the floor without even taking those into account. You have to realize how RU statistics and government works: it was all faked to shit even internally since 1918, possibly earlier. Here's an example: during 1937-1938 alone soviet secret police arrested over 50,000 (yes, fifty thousand) "japanese spies", which should be obvious to anyone that they were just bullshiting and jailing randoms. That's how things always have worked in russia.
>>65642276if he can't have his empire and has to die, then why should anyone else be allowed to live?
>>65642913Obligatory, from another timelinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekeq4szDmJo
>>65641416They will never revolt because:a) they don't care about their own people, the "not my problem" culture isn't a joke, bolsheviks atomized the society into shit;b) they support the war because they see imperial expansion as a good thing and owning Ukraine as their birthright;
>>65642956>Churka and the Meatcube Factory
>>65642850>not long into the war USA lost most of its traditional trained ground forces>began conscripting blacks, rednecks, and Mexicans from the ghettos and trailer parks>became very common in Mexican drone footage to see an inner city American youth carrying an m1 garand or m14 while most have clapped out inventory m16a1s and m16a2 (no optic).>montage after montage of blacks and rednecks getting blown off of four wheelers, dirt bikes, and squated trucks; even occasional horse drawn carriage.>USA’s only outspoken ally; Japan, sent some troops to help and also got btfo.
>>65642702you need to train your grunts how to actually lead your shots against a moving target like a drone. They ain't into that faggy gay shit Without training they will just keep shooting to where the drones used to be
>>65641507>I don't get how it could 'only' be 450k.It's not, it's way more. People in russia (included RU anons on 2ch) extrapolated some data based on local memorials and it's definitely over a million. It's just that these 450k are something which people actually can point to because the data was internal to RU government. >The ukies claim they're responsible for 50k casualties a month, and they've been at it for 60 months, not nine.The losses aren't uniform in terms of timelines.
>>65642064The point is that those soldiers:- generally don't receive help and die after a while in some ditch (go read up stories from RU soldiers);- usually aren't actually militarily viable, if they're not shipped of to a hospital (very rarely they are), i.e. the retard with crutches or a stick will get vaporized the next time with a 100% chance because he can't even run away;
>>65642702Not really? I have seen Ukraine videos where they show Russians shooting down like half a dozen drones but they just send in more and try to get the drop on them with a bomb or a kamikaze attack. Successfully.This is the real reason for Russian casualties, and Ukraine's. Drones are just slaughtering everyone out there no matter how good or bad they are at shooting.
>>65642124I hope not, in fact I voted against it >>65642451>>65642444kek>>65642768once a nazi, always a nazi, fatso
>>65642987nah, it's because Americans are smarter and genetically superior to our enemies
>>65642981>the retard with crutches or a stick will get vaporized the next time with a 100% chance because he can't even run away;And it will costs Ukraine another drone. A net Russian win.
>>65642504>The previous dead zigger estimates by russian OSINT (mediazona's 200) were lowerThey themselves say that they have a giant backlog of shit to process and are still processing records from 2025 and shit.
>>65642730it's called a ZUICIDE TUBE and it's cool
>>65643001
>>65641311Russia has lost this war and it's disarmament is reaching endgame 25683 (+15)Artillery systems — 52112 (+68)MLRS — 2263 (+6)Anti-aircraft warfare — 1753 (+2)Planes — 452Helicopters — 356Ground robotic systems — 3109 (+10)UAV — 602020 (+1843)Cruise missiles — 5196Ships (boats) — 35Submarines — 2Cars and cisterns — 172488 (+638)Special equipment — 4889 (+1)Military personnel — aprx. 1609380 people (+2980)Russia started this war with 13617 MBTS that were known of.
>>65642850You forgot about Wendy's PMC rebellion talked down by Canada's prime minister
>>65642959>b) they support the war because they see imperial expansion as a good thing and owning Ukraine as their birthright;People really don't put enough emphasis on this, Russia isn't a real nation as we define it, ie, a human community built around an ethno-cultural identity assigned to a territory. Russia is an imperial country in the sense that it is several peoples who have nothing to do with eachother wrangled together into a political community because of territorial contiguity alone, territory is all that makes Russia itself, all the people far into the vast fuck-all-ness of the east have been shaped so by being the resource extraction project of Moscow rulers, they provide those resources and Moscow provides goods and infrastructure in return. They cannot feed or sustain themselves without this transactional relationship, so they have no leverage or any real representation, and conversely nobody west HAS to care. They aren't Russians like Moscow or St Petersburg Russians, the 'real Russia'. This is the system they understand the world through, there has to be a real Russia with subjects far away where the resources are while Moscow is where the civilization is. If this system breaks, ie a territory becomes better civilized than real Russia, or if it dares to leave, then the identity of the big territory that doesn't have to ask for what it wants, negotiate for what it needs otlr answer for what it does, disintegrates.
>>65642896>Coke and Pepsi are still hard to find in big bottles though, the ziggers caught a break with that strategic victory.Every single retard in mosqueov should die a horrible death because they fucked up some warehouses and now there's no Double Cheese Royals in McDonalds.
>>65642994>Americans are smarterYeah, we've observed that with the Iran war
>>65643013It's better to fry that broccoli in a pan
>>65642913>How about blueberries?I had picrel an hour ago, seems to be ok>>65642959>>65643025>Russia isn't a real nation as we define it, ie, a human community built around an ethno-cultural identity assigned to a territoryIt's basically HFY except they're not entirely H to begin with.They're just cheering for the idea that they're strong.>>65643030>Every single retard in mosqueov should die a horrible death because they fucked up some warehouses and now there's no Double Cheese Royals in McDonalds.From your lips to monke's ears anon
>>65643030Agreed.
>>65643038you just hate us because you're jealous and third worldAmerica single handedly won the spanish American war, WWI and WWII because we are smarter and genetically superior
>>65643038Not a lot of American dead over there have there?Reminder Vatniks thought it was an own that their pilots killed themselves when shot down behind enemy lines while America spent so much to rescue only two pilots
>>65641327Does it include Rosgvardia?
>>65643041If James May prefers the "One Pot Helicopter Top Pot Shot Student Cooking Thing with Unsafe Plug", then so do I.I'm a Moderate Man, and admire other Very Moderate Men.
>>65643030Fret not my friend, we will retaliate denying them pizzas.https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2026/11/03/soft-power-in-a-cardboard-box-pro-kremlin-activist-calls-for-pizza-ban-a94164
>>65643024And something about the "Free Texas Legion" of secessionist rebels (Trained and armed by the Mexicans) invading seizing San Antonio for a few weeks, causing the entire US military to freak the fuck out and pull out all the stops to push them out. With the US army desperately pulling much-needed men and machines from all other areas of the front and launching a giant counterattack, just to chase off a few thousand rebels. With said rebels taking only taking mild losses, and successfully retreating back to Mexico alongside several hundred captured US National Guardsmen who'd surrendered en masse the moment they heard rumors of rebels approaching. Also something about the US sourcing ancient munitions and slave-soldiers, at exorbitant cost, from the fucking Sultanate of Brunei, or whatever the "western" equivalent of North Korea would be.
>>65643094What would a Russian pizzza look like? The card board platter that has a bit of cheese and topping flall off when you pull out a frozen one?
>>65643107>What would a Russian pizzza look like?picrel
>>65643107Well, to make an AUTHENTIC Russian-style Patriot Pizza, the first step is to make the dough, which should contain no less than 25% sawdust, and at least 2% asbestos...
>>65643113God that was a dinner in the 80s, half of you will never know the pain.
>>65641311>The US lost less on two fronts in WWII.You could stage an assault in ww2. Nowadays the drones know what you are up to before your infantry does. Also ww2 USA unironically had better logistics and officer corps, all russia has is the few guys who survive an assault telling the new recruits what worked and didn't work last time
>>65643140T-those are... blade discs for a big tilling plow. I assume their agriculture is no longer mechanized at all?
>>65643148ploughshares into swords, it's quite poetic in a way
>>65643148Farming machines are for the decadent west. Serfs and whips just like their grandparents. It's not like they have the fuel for the machines anyways
>>65643148If there's anything we've learned it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanization
>>65643158Didn't Mao also do that?
>>65643194>ziggers>whitedo jeets really think this?
>>65642866Milei?
Do we have numbers on the ethnic makeup of the Russian Forces? Like how many actual Russians are dying? Because if I was Russian and it is just a bunch of chechens dying I wouldn't revolt as I would with Russians dying.Would maybe explain to a degree why the average guy doesn't really care.
>>65643210Chechens are the barrier troops. The meat (if they can help it) are far-east region mystery meat and actual Africans/poos who got tricked into signing up.
>>65643206why would you insult our ukrainian brothers this way???
>>65643206im castizo man...So i stand with my white brothers of dubious racial purity
>>65643217Sure sure, but are there percentages? Not officially I suppose, but estimates?
>>65643210Ethnic and religious minorities are overrepresented in the russian armed forces, usually because they tend to be from very poor regions with non-existent job oppertunities."White" russians still make up the bulk of the russian armed forces, as there are plenty of those from dirt-poor regions too.Chechens are present in large numbers too but they are rarely involved in direct fighting. The Chechens have higher status than all other ethnic group in the russian armed forces, and they're mainly used as enforcers to keep everyone else obeying orders.
>>65643227How do Russians see this and not feel the urge to kill every single chechen they see?
on the one hand i'm pleased that slavs are systematically (or haphazardly in russia's case) eliminating each other, on the other i'm sad because the one out of a million slavs with a brain and an internet connection are actually pretty enjoyable and those guys are probably dead too.
>>65643079>One Pot Helicopter Top Pot Shot Student Cooking Thing with Unsafe PlugThe what now?
>>65643240>How do Russians see this and not feel the urge to kill every single chechen they see?Centuries of serf mentality.You know how back in ancient times, armies of raiders would sometimes just rock up to city-states and demand huge ransoms of gold and silver to leave without a fight? That's basically how Chechnya exists in russia today.The Kadyrov family controlling Chechnya granted a significant degree of autonomy to rule their little kingdom, and HUGE cash handouts (courtesy of russian tax payers), in exchange for keeping "loyal" and not declaring a Jihad against Moscow, killing Putin, and declaring national independence.
>>65643245This is why we need to invest in drone warfare to automate the process.
>>65643245such is life in eastern eurostan
>>65643253Could Kadyrov even keep his nation together on his own?
>>65643113Can't tell if it's a bagel with pizza toppings or something else
>>65643240They are cucked into oblivion>>65643267it's a real poorfag pizza in russia
>>65643265Highly questionable, at least currently.Right now the Kadyrov family has every reason to be friendly with moscow.The Kadyrov family have been seriously weakened in the last few years, and they need the implied threat that moscow would be on their side in a potential struggle for power over Chechnya.There have however been a few times in the past where they may have sought to unify Chechnya against moscow.But given the currently weak state of both the Kadyrov family, and the russian military, it's entirely possible that someone else may seek to topple their rule and seize power for themselves.If the russian response is weak enough, or if the russians cannot provide with with enough bribes, they may seek friends elsewhere and turn directly hostile against moscow.But it's all highly speculative and hypothetical at this point.
>>65643106>Also something about the US sourcing ancient munitions and slave-soldiers, at exorbitant cost, from the fucking Sultanate of Brunei, or whatever the "western" equivalent of North Korea would be.Probably buying back Abrams' from the Saudis.Or something equivalent from Israel.
>>65643273>it's a real poorfag pizza in russiaI think it's just a pizza bread/cracker thing, we have them in the west too.I make something like it for breakfast sometimes; bread, tomato, cheese, bake lightly.
>>65641416Half are churkas.
>>65643190Mao melted much needed manual farming tools into worthless pig iron in an attempt to boost china's metal export, I don't think he had the original biblical message in mind
>>65641311I know they're retarded but they can't be that retarded. Can they?
>>65642208>puppet government collapsed as soon as the occupation leftI think every discussion about the Soviet Afghan War should start with how Russia caused the war by overthrowing its existing Afghan puppet government.
>>65643309>I think it's just a pizza bread/cracker thing, we have them in the west too.This crap is literally called and marketed in russia as pizza. The issue was that pizza didn't really exist in russia before the 90s, and when it finally appeared it was an expensive thing (for normies). And since people wanted "pizza", the local food industry gave them "pizza", not really knowing what pizza was and trying to bullshit their way out of it using a common trope of substituting original components with what was available. That's how this mutant pizza came into life: take some flatbread crap, put some cheap "toppings" onto it, like the chopped bootleg bologna, and boom - you have "pizza". As time went by more normal western style pizza also became a thing and got spread out, but this cheap bullshit crap stayed around, often as "school pizza" (because feeding students is cool grift) and so on.
>gun threads>take forever to hit 310 unless it's about politics>nogunz war tourist threads hit 310 in a dayhmm
>>65643210I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out after the war ethnic populations are effectively extinct, they were the first to be conscripted, and Moscowites are politically untouchable. There's probably entire regions where every male above 16 has been conscripted and sent to the front to die.
>>65642896>If a couple of hundred thousand people from anywhere in my country died and the people responsible were our political class, we would tear the ones responsible limb from limb in the streetsSkill issue. You'll never be a superpower
>>65643070>Rosgvardiahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBhpqVyEFbg
>>65643342>As time went by more normal western style pizza also became a thing and got spread out, but this cheap bullshit crap stayed around, often as "school pizza"Obviously we have good pizza in the west but I promise you, we have this cheap crappy stuff too.Flatbread with tomato paste, processed ham, and cheese is... ubiquitous.Put it all on a flat bread roll instead and it's "pizza bread". Cafeterias, especially high school ones, will sell that stuff with no shame.The things that pass for pizza base in the west are many and varied and honestly, even Italy isn't immune. I've seen pizza bases in Rome 1€ slice shops that made me question my grasp on the concept of pizza and whether an objective truth existed about the subject.>>65643391>Skill issue. You'll never be a superpowerAre you sure you responded to the right post?And if you are, where's that muffin recipe I asked for?>>65643346>gun threads>take forever to hit 310 unless it's about politics>nogunz war tourist threads hit 310 in a dayPeople here care about the optimal material for suppressor baffles but not in a way that has them hammering a keyboard.Also, ziggers are a large part of why we can't have a discussion about titanium .22 suppressors without it instantly becoming a thread about the downfall of the west and why we should kill each other over it.This truth feeds a certain frothing russophobia.
>>65643428>xaxaxaxa everyone has inedible puccia foodwhat blew up this time vasily?
>>65643428literally no one talks about russians in any of the gun threads, fatso
>>65643428Fun fact: most of those cafeterias source that "pizza" from the same suppliers for local prisons.
>>65643453>literally no one talks about russians in any of the gun threadsThat doesn't mean we don't give a shit.>>65643459>Fun fact: most of those cafeterias source that "pizza" from the same suppliers for local prisons.picrel
>>65643300Morocco
>>65643219ukranians aren't ziggers, so they are white.
>>65643490>I'm fairly certain that all of the anti russian thread posting is done by nogunz war touristswildly incorrect
>>65643490and other fantasies you can tell yourself.total zigger death, kys if you don't like it faggot.
>>65643490>quite frankly, none of us give a shit about a war on the other side of the world that doesn't affect us
>>65643542>butthurt belterWe found one.
>>65643459well, schools are mini-prisons by their own nature
>>65643544I'm American, but holy shit are slavs fucking annoying on /pol/. fucking yugos are basically braziliansWhy wouldn't I dislike a group that calls me mutt, nonwhite and weimaremerrimutt?
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>>65643547>holy shit are slavs fucking annoying on /pol/. fucking yugos are basically braziliansThe things you hate about slavs are mostly just Serbs and those are culturally Russian.Don't put Ukrainians in with Russians, Ukrainians care enough about freedom to take to the streets and take bullets over it.Don't put Slovenians or Croats or Bosnians in with Serbs, they all fought against the shit that Serbs/Russians call pan-Slav cultural bullshit.Montenegrins are a halfway case but they broke free of Serbs and should be given a chance to be themselves too.
>>65643542ah yes, john burger, please tell me about the warm water port of texas oblast
>>65643570>Foreigner>Foreigner, Japan
>>65643570>makes me hate foreignersMy brown friend, you are the foreigner
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>>65643573nips are honorary Americans>>65643579>>65643581I'm White, fatso. Once again, you're proving my point that nonAmericans are retarded annoying cocksuckers. I also notice that none of you posted gunz and you're claiming shit about serbs and stuff that no American would know or care about. You sound like nonAmericans to me
>>65643187So far down the ladder they're losing not 21st century tech but 20th.
>>65643358As a point of reference, 450k KIA is the equivalent of depopulating Nenets, Chukotka, Magadan, Jewish Autonomous Oblast, and half of Altai. As a percentage of population it would be the equivalent of everyone in Delaware dying.
>>65643559>Russia was a vassal of the Golden Horde>Serbia was a vassal of the OttomansTheir histories certainly rhyme.
weird how some posts get deleted but the racist ones stay up
I really think the russians won't be able to continue the war next year.every sign points to them being desperate.
>>65643542>butthurt belterWhy do you retards keep giving yourselves away by throwing out nonsense terms only you fags use
>>65643640>a common /pol/ termGo back.
>he has to keep reminding everyone that he’s a totally real AmericanYeah.
>>65643614>Their histories certainly rhyme.Yeah, you're not wrong.I sort of think the Serbs are so tremendously and reliably butthurt because they never got to be the slavers the way that the Ottomans were.The Young Turks overthrew the Ottomans internally and the Serbs never got to overthrow them externally (not that they ever could have) and be the Slaver in their place.So they set out to be the Ottomans of the Balkans, just like Russia tries to be the Golden Horde of Eurasia.
>>65643631>weird how some posts get deleted but the racist ones stay upCan you be more specific?Also, habitual /pol/shills often delete their own posts to avoid being reported and having their posts deleted plus b&
>>65643667Nobody’s forcing you to post in these threads.
>>65642160The NVA was the 4th largest military at the time.
>>65642361>believes thisDon't you have a trench to die in?
>>65643667>weird how none of you have posted guns, fatsoLike you did?>this shit happens in every one of these no gunz war tourist threadsSo there's going to be loads of examples.>some dutch fag How can you tell?>calls people racial slurs and any post disagreeing with him gets deletedCan you give me archive links? For all these loads of examples from every nogunz war tourist thread? Which there are loads of?
A thread on massive Russian casualties ripped straight from their MoD:>gay rape discussion>"/k/ope">"ha ha we will just kill more civilians">"europe will freeze this winter">"butthurt belt">blatant oblast posting>"nobody actually cares">"nogunz yurothirdie nafo trannies"I am starting to think that this revelation is not good news for the russian federation
>>65642695Butler should have been stripped of all ranks and awards, that fucker was a barking dog for the KGB. >hurr big business and banksAMERICAN BUSINESSES AND BANKS. The first fucking expeditionary conflict the Marines ever fucking fought was to protect American merchant ships from fucking Muslim pirates. >butler >nooooooo the heckin capitalism we should let browns rob and kidnap americans!And smoothbrains like you continue to suck him off.
>>65643707>that fucker was a barking dog for the KGB.>Died June 21, 1940Incredible. Truly remarkable. Any other pearls of wisdom?
>>65643718>25 deleted posts in this threadHow many of them are you"
Allegedly Tsar Monke is preparing for an (attempted) invasion of Georgia, because nothing makes your million casualty failure of a war work better than another front.Anyone heard anything about this or is it just more of the usual "rar rasha strong" sabre rattling? (Except by now everyone knows the "sabre" is a 99¢ plastic one from Spirit Halloween)
>>65643724>russian revolution >1917>russians influence in Hollywood and academia/media>one of the U.S. Representatives Butler worked with on veterans' issues and anti-war advocacy was later exposed as a Soviet spyWant to keep going?
>>65643746>Allegedly Tsar Monke is preparing for an (attempted) invasion of GeorgiaI guess he chickened out of invading Baltic states.
>>65643811The KGB was formed in 1954. If you can't even get the agency right, your diatribe about conspiracy is inherently ignorant babble.
>>65643841>3 or 4 even though I didnt say anything wrongI was going to ask for examples but then you went and...>gotta write to my congressman about cutting funding for yurop and vote for more anti yuropoor politicians. let the subhumans die. America firstHahahahahaI couldn't have oblast posted better than that.Indiana vatnigger I assume?
>>65643824>noooo they changed 3 letters!!>same people working in, running, and located in the same building Cope.
>>65643906>>65644038Go on, you'll find a version that doesn't sound like seething eventually.
>>65644073Still working on it, I see.
>>65644073>deleting your own posts so you can act like you got wrongfully bannedWhy?
>give Europe an extremely militarized, resource rich and weapons producing country right in their lap for the low cost of a small gas surcharge and loans to Ukraine (read, free)Wow Russia is so kind, they care about European defense...
>>65644699>mike TysonA senile geriatric? Surprisingly apt comparison totally American man.
>>65643094>they want to ban papa johnsI don't fucking blame them, that shit's been sliding down hill since they took the racism out of the company.Also the sauce is just too fucking sweet now.
>>65643267Looks like frozen mini-pizzas done in the microwave.Probably tastes like salt and sour rubber.If you've every had god awful low bargain bin frozen pizza you'll know what I mean.
>>65643634>region with the biggest grayzone and where they push hardest>"what if we just make the air 90% drones?"Honestly, they probably should have started with that.>hard to track enemies individually because they cross the line in small groups>hardened positions are going to be repeatedly hit by hit and run bullshit and drones>saturate the area with your own drones and just have them zipping around looking for sappers, swap batteries as needed
>>65644168>I didn't delete any of my own posts, fatsoOh, so you're b&-evading?
>>65641416i think it's just sunk cost fallacy at play. the economics of it are also staggering.Like in real terms a 25yo human life is worth:>~40 years of productive work>decades of tax contributions>children for future tax contributions>skills and experience development over those decadesSo even if those guys all just worked 30k/year jobs that's 15 billions gone for every year of the next 40 years. But wait, there's more, you also have:>compensation for families>survivor pensions>disability and medical benefits for veterans >recruitment bonuses>military salariesAnd that's not even going into the economic losses of the gas price problems, destroyed equipment and infrastructure or even the marshal plan level of money they'd need to pump into any (theoretical) territory they may have gained before extracting any wealth from the taxable population there.Putin could have genocided his own people and it would have been cheaper.
>>65645138>Putin could have genocided his own people and it would have been cheaper.The Russians, the whole country, are committing suicide-by-cop.That's why they call the Ukrainians "the pigs."
>>65641507combination of things1. It's WIA not KIA2. 50k casualties per month is only the latest month, and the ukrainians have really ramped up the TZD this year compared to before. The average per month is a lot lower3. Ukies inflate their kill counts for obvious reasons which I cannot blame them for, they're literally at war and information is a weapon4. The 450k figure is however still much lower than the reality, as other anons have pointed out there's also foreign soldiers, mercs, MIA, unregistered KIA (knowing russian bureaucracy god knows how many), and the Donbas oblasts where you can assume basically every guy who was 16 or older in 2022 on the russian side is now dead. My personal estimate before this leak was actually only about 400k KIA for the total russian side, but this leak has convinced me that the real number is now likely close on a million which is horrifying (even if I suppose I'm happy the ukrainians are doing so well!)
>>65641815God, that pic is still amazing
