>rapes your Spear M7
>loses HICAR contractWhat the hell is that huge ass can though
>>65645790>loses HICAR contractThey're still in.>What the hell is that huge ass can thoughSuppressor shroud to cover your glowing hot can at night.
>should wr maybe come up with a new design?>naw, just keep square peg, round holing the ar15>let's how many hundredths of an inch we can chop off the barrel this time
>>65645813We had our chance with the Textron rifleJews got mad/scaredSuch is life
>>65645785>M7M7 is dead, the Army is replacing all of them with the M8, which is just as much of a turd, but weighs half a pound less and doesn’t even meet the program AP requirements.
>>65645819Looks funky, I like it. But the RM-277 should've won
>>65645785that's a big scope
>>656459704U>>65645799Supposedly the participants were told not to acknowledge participation in the trials.
Give it a 20 inch barrel and make it go 3500-4000 feet per second.
>>65645852Pop quiz. What are the program AP requirements.
>>65645819but seriously what were they thinking with that ejection port design
>>65646178The AR had a bunch of issues in it's prototype phase too you know.
>>65646178The gun was originally rearward feeding. This put the ejection port in the right spot and gave the gun 2 extra inches of barrel. It was a quasi bullpup, like the FG 42, but it made the gun taller. To make it shorter, they could either keep the rearward feed and make the gun a true bullpup, or make it forward feed and stick half the guts of the rifle under the barrel.
>>65645819>Text Ronald employees still seething on this board years after they lost the contractImagine how dogshit their rifle must have been to still not be chosen over the sigger rifle. Sad!
What a shit show
>>65645819>adopting a battle rifle in the modern day wouldnt have been cringe and gay if MY 15lb monstrosity won!
>>65646947Telescoped ammo and the LSAT entering service would be worth it
>>65645785>absurdly heavy for it's size, as long as an m16>suppressor that is flashier and louder than an a2 birdcage>needs hirtenberger buscadero ticondas to match cheap 55gr out of a 20in barrelohnonono 11.5 sisters what is this?
>>65646096They weren't told to acknowledge their participation, they were told their entries were CUI until SOCOM could make a determination.Theres a reason why Geissele hasn't been winning contracts recently.>>65647020Not if you need a pants on head retarded rifle design with over 20 moving components, just to make the fucking thing work. Oh and also its a projected cost of $18,000 a rifle to boot.>>65645852AP requirements were dropped 4 years ago you fucking newfag retard.>>65646183The critical issue the AR-10 had was that Stoner was a dumbass who thought you could sleeve steel in either aluminum and not experience galvanic corrosion, or nylon and not have a barrel that blew up after 10 rounds. Once this was rememdied, the AR-10 became one of the best rifles on the market, bar none.
>>65647049no one is impressed that your primary is a 20" AR.
>>65647097>PRIMARY TERTIARY CAWADOODY TACTICS O ALGO grow up zoomer
>>65647059The greatest benefit of telescoped ammo is for beltfeds, which cost that much already. Keep the M4 if you must, but going to CT beltfeds would boost the walking speed of every infantry unit bigger than a three man drone team, because they're currently anchored by machineguns' weight. Using machineguns in the traditional way takes an unsustainable amount of ammo in modern war. If you want to combine tradition and the future, you need lighter MGs.
>>65647176The m250 is much lighter than the m249. The carried weight is still more because the ammo is heavier, though.
>>65647049see >>65646152>tfw pissing hawt laser 556 could be real
>>65647157now you're speaking my language
>>65647176Don't get me wrong, telescoped ammunition would have been a MASSIVE boon to the military, not just from a logistics perspective, but from procurement to fucking war fighting. Imagine telling every soldier "hey there highspeed, that 270 round combat load you have to carry? We just cut 3 lbs off your kit". Tell sustainment commanders that they're going to save like 5% on fuel because all our ammunition is lighter, while they're delivering 40% more rounds per delivery draw. Tell procurement in the DoD that ammo will be cheaper and have sjprter lead times because were not doing a 12 step process just to fucking stamp brass pucks into cases.You'd have the entire fucking MILITARY, Army, Navy, Chairforce, Muhreens fighting each other forbthe first batch of M4A2s chambered in this new cartridge.Beltfeds, were you to chamber a telescoped case witha rim, would be fucking phenomenal, christ, the KAC LW LMG was so god damn light it was terrifying to hold, ckmpared to the M249. Sure it couldn't lay down fire as well but fuck it, we'll make it fucking work. I could sprint half a mile with the fucking KAC, I can't jog with a M249.>>65647228At least, at the very least, the M250 is pretty god damn good. Like its shocking how good it is. If nothing else, I would love for big Army to drop the M240 and adopt the XM250 in .308, if nothing else.
>>65647312I've heard that the M250 is still bad, because the 6.8mm round being so hot is unnecessary for an LMG that can have a 16 inch barrel without issue. Also its MOA is pretty bad. If they used Lone Star's ammo for it, that would be much better.
>>65647059>Once this was rememdied, the AR-10 became one of the best rifles on the market, bar none.And getting rid of the stupid flash suppressor, and having the dutch handle production. Great rifle that was ready just in time to see everyone was finished adopting new rifles
>>65645799They're not. Source: the people involved, via Soldier Systems.
>>65647059George (not Jim) Sullivan was the moron behind the composite barrel.
>>65646167Defeat Lvl 4 at 600m>>65647059> AP requirements were dropped 4 years agoSo it’s just heavy and dogshit for no reason? Just corruption and lead poisoned boomers ruining one more thing before dottering off to memory care?Lame
>>65645785A friendly reminder that the only reason Geissele can show off their rifle is because they lost the downselect.
>>65647341Having a GPMG round be "too hot" is a retarded opinion spewed by dipshits with no actual combat experience. I want my GPMG to suppress as far as reasonably possible and penetrate light armor. .277 fury potentially works in this case.The peolle also whining that it doesn't shoot as accurate as a precision AR, while also regurgitating some claim made by literally who youtubers, are doubly retarded. We have official data, we know the numbers, if it was shooting 12 moa, that testbed and ammunition being used would be immediately drawn from the line because it far exceeds what is expected and both could be at fault.>>65647358The flash hider was designed specifically for the beer can compensator. Which sure was stupid considering 50 years later, people run suppressors specifically to help recoil mitigation. Stoner was ahead of his time. Even the dutch charging handle wasn't a bad idea, optics just weren't a consideration and wouldn't be until long after Stoner passed.If you were to press the AR10 into service today, it wouldn't take much outside of a optics mount and railed handguard to get it to do 90% of what people expect modern BRs to do, today.
