But it would be very funny
>>65646764That's what Fighter bomber is implying. btw, why is this guy still living in Russia? He should have moved out years ago for his own safety. War-bloggers are in the cross hairs of the military for reporting shit like this.
>>65646764Let's figure out what would be the most hilarious? Su-57? Passenger aircraft?Prigozhin's private jet?
ETERNAL FLIGHT.....
I bet they shot down a commercial flight again.
>>65646774This is highly likely, the AA-Cuck doesn't want anyone else in his 'space' while watching drones
>>65646771I'd like there to be a few AEW&C aircraft.
>>65646784>This is highly likely, the AA-Cuck doesn't want anyone else in his 'space' while watching dronesKhokhol drones inboundMy rockets yearn for targetsAirliner; I launch
>>65646785Oh hello, boner
>>65646765What makes you think he hasn't moved out?
>>65646764This sounds more serious than your average FF incident. I'm somewhat curious now.
>>65646771>Passenger aircraft?Is the complete delegation still in Abu Dhabi? I'd die laughing if someone had gone back to Russia early
>>65646804Oh lawd, oh pls
>>65646774>>65646784This flight went off radar just outside of the city and hasn't reported landing. The flight is currently showing as delayed, not landed on LED's website for live arrivals trackingtake it with a grain of salt, I'm just some retard on the internet
>>65646771>Not a Tu-160You need to think BIG
>>65646785how many have they lost so far now?
>>65646807Fuck that would be mega
>>65646806Would be pretty lulzy
>>65646806Big if true.Too big to hide from the russian public. Might even change things.
>>65646806If there's two things to be learned about Russian and Soviet AA systems and operators, there is no airliner off limits and even less chance of them hitting something they're meant to shoot down
Fun's over lads, Fighterbomber is getting his panties in a wad over a mere Ka-52Still sounds like friendly fire though.https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/2120454044150050935
>>65646817Awww man, boooring
>>65646817Thought those things were extinct by now
What a let down, for FB to be crying that hard
>>65646817Better that than a fucking airliner I guess.
>>65646815It's the rite of passage for russian AD operators
Just one heli..
>>65646836>Just one heliYeah, russia literally have hundreds of them and theyre still in production too.
>>65646820Well they are now.
>>65646817blue balled again
SHOW MIGHT NOT BE OVER BROS>Apparently, -2 Ka-52https://x.com/M0nstas/status/2120462291250667943
>>65646846>Only 2Nothing burger. Move along, please.
>>65646846 this is getting a bit silly
>>65646798>What makes you think he hasn't moved out?Being Russian and patriotic. The ones who move out because they know Russia is shit. The true believer stay behind.
>rest in peace warriors>they got shot by their own AD, againAre people responsible for these facing prison or smth or these losses are getting brushed off like everything else in vatniggerstan?
>>65646854>these things happen >shrugYou know that if a single incident like this happened in USA, there would be a full congressional inquiry. For Russia it's a tuesday. No one can do anything because power comes from the top down, so unless Putin wants it, it isn't happening, and everyone just tries to keep their head low, not get sent to an assault unit or prison, and hope to retire with a nice nest egg.
>st petersburg AD shoots down 2 friendliesLooks like Gr*sha might be heading to the front after all!
Fuck that, I went from megaboner (Putain) to blue balls in one minute.
>>65646857Honestly I'm surprised he wasn't shipped off to the cube when Wagner folded
>>65646806if its boeing...
>>65646785Wish granted>Overnight into Nov. 10, Ukrainian drones struck the 123rd Aircraft Repair Plant in Staraya Russa
>>65646891What happened to the other 122?
Kek
>>65646787Another banger of a haiku!
>>65647004Vatnik Telegrams is the gift that keeps on giving
>>65646846No! leave the ka52s alone!
>>65646837had hundreds*were in production*
>>65647008>You didn't die! You just flew away. >And you will never come back again...Confirmed defection.
>>65647022That means their families will get nothing. Maybe a one way ticket to the gulag.
>>65646865Probably bought himself more time when he beat an Austrian boomer at HoI4.
Jfc now its apparantly 3 aircraft
>>65647071Air defense cuckolds eating good tonight, a veritable buffet of endangered aircraft
>>65646765>War-bloggers are in the cross hairs of the military for reporting shit like thisBut anon, he is the truest patriot in all of Russia, why in the world would the government come after him :^)
>>65646771>Prigozhin's private jet?Too soon :(
>>65647071fucking hell, by tomorrow there's going to be a whole wing of them wiped out
>>65646774>bet they shot down a commercial flight again.He would not be crying like that if it was the case.
Air defense cuckold really outdid himself this time kek
>>65646856>For Russia it's a tuesdayWednesday actually. Tuesday was an Ozon warehouse fire IIRC
>>65647008In english it's just a silly post, but in russian its also a piece of awful poetry on top of that.
Russia is using helicopters and jets to fight drones now (ukraine has been doing it for years).ST petersburg was atacked tonight, lots of air defense there, helis went out to hunt drones, Pantsir found tĥree targets, Pantsir shot targetsAnd three eternal flights this morning
>>65647132>/k/opeWhy do you retards keep giving yourselves away like this constantly
>>65647141They think it's some kind of power move. Face cultures are weird, man. It's why they've been butt blasted for years and years about Cheems
>>65647071>three aircraft >seven crewYou'd imagine six crew of they were all helicopters. Where did the extra come from?
>>65647150a door gunner perhaps?
>>65647150They're out of replacement parts so they've got to put kids in the machine to operate specific tasks like in the Snowpiercer movie
>>65646764>Now im not saying that Russian AD did another FFEveryone else is.>>65646771>Let's figure out what would be the most hilarious?If you just want to take what's most likely, it seems to be:>2x Ka-52>1x Mi-8Three aircrews are reported lost, seven crew, no survivors.
>>65647129That's definitely not Putin Prime, is it.>>65647150>You'd imagine six crew of they were all helicopters. Where did the extra come from?One was seemingly an Mi-8 so as >>65647153 says.
>>65647153This or another pair of eyes for spotting the drones with floodlight.
>>65647074>Even the blast shield designed to protect them ends up doing more harm than goodRussian industrial military prowess is pretty much ACME inc. tier at this point.
>>65647167>Three aircrews are reported lost, seven crew, no survivors.At least they're effective, innit.
>>65647231Calm down there bojo
>>65646815>ground to air missile so good it hits the target on the groundEven has a nice little mushroom cloud
>>65647071>now its apparantly 3 aircraft>>65646815>even less chance of them hitting something they're meant to shoot downApologise!They're 3/3 on air targets.
>>65647299>apologizeNever! They were never suppose to shoot their own comrades!
>>65647308You'll never make it in the Russian army with that attitude.
>>65647308>They were never suppose to shoot their own comrades!
>>65647180Should maybe use some eyes looking for AA as well...
everything is fine
>>656470712 KA-52 and 1 Mi-8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24y1eATH8gE
>>65647339>Should maybe use some eyes looking for AA as well...You don't think fixing targets purely by ear is a good idea?https://files.catbox.moe/asel21.mp4
>>65646836>>65647071Doesnt the Ka-52 have ejection seats? Did the pilots die from the missile's impact?
>>65646806Reports are saying Ka-52.
>>65647369>Doesnt the Ka-52 have ejection seats?Technically no, the Ka-52 ejection system does not involve the seats.
APOLOGISE TO PANTSIR
lol
>>65647413needs more arrows. bigger ones too possibly
>>65647413The kotel is bubbling.... The eggs are in the ass.... If only the Tzar knew.....
>>65647424Casus belly for invasion of baltic states right there. It's over
>>65647413Message unclear, not enough arrows.
>>65647389>APOLOGISE TO PANTSIRI'll do more than that.
>>65647129Legitimately the most impressive pantsir performance in recent memory
>>65647413Idk, how does it help the russian front from collapsing?
>>65647413Kek, is that guy still going?
>>65647413for russia? it doesn't, they're going to continue losing.
>>65647487>Kek, is that guy still going?He probably earns between $500-$2k per video so why would he stop?He's ever so slightly less blatant these days but I'm only going on the thumbnails, no idea what's in the actual videos because fucked if I'm going to let him into my brain.
>>65647376An escape pod?
>>65647504no, just yanking the pilots by their parachute straps with a rocket booster, scorpion style.
Genuinely what the fuck is wrong with their AD? Why is it so garbage at anything that doesn't involve blowing up their own stuff? You'd think every single AD system in russian stock is possessed or something
>>65647504It's stupider than you can imagine.I think the consensus is that you're basically always better off attempting to autorotate.
>>65647518>Why is it so garbage at anything that doesn't involve blowing up their own stuff?NAFO propaganda, it's also good at blowing up civilian airliners
>>65647518>Genuinely what the fuck is wrong with their AD? Why is it so garbage at anything that doesn't involve blowing up their own stuff?We dunk on them but they do fend off a few hundred Ukie drones each night and only a dozen or so get through.They're not actually useless, they just have a great deal of unfriendly fire.
>>65647523>but they do fend off a few hundred Ukie drones each nightdo they? seems like there's an extra decimal in there at least.
>>65647424Gogland xDD
>>65647523>they do fend off a few hundred Ukie drones each night and only a dozen or so get throughDidn't Fightercoper almost got v& recently for dropping a truke that it doesn't matter how many of them you down as long as some drones keep hitting their intended target?
Apparently the Russian ambassador to the US just died suddenly
>>65647584Did he shoot himself twice in the back of the head while falling out a window
>>65647520>looks comrade, is completely of safe.
>>65647533>do they? seems like there's an extra decimal in there at least.Ukraine's deep strike drone program has exceeded Russia in consistent throw weight for some time now.It helps that Europe is paying for all the drones and building a lot of them.You remember all those "drones for Ukraine" programs the EU was going on about a year ago?They're mature now.>>65647574>Didn't Fightercoper almost got v& recently for dropping a trukeThat's happened several times, he burns his fingers and backs off a bit and comes back when he can't take the stupidity any more.
>>65647177>That's definitely not Putin Prime, is it.Na, that's just Udmurt. Don't bully, he's doing his best.
>>65647588He was well liked in the Kremlin. They even offered to give him a private helicopter flight on his way home from Abu Dhabi, isn't that nice?
>>65647487Apparently.Although he seems to be a more balanced clickbaiting faggot these days than vatniks would like.
>>65647618If you show some strength, Serbs will start to long for a new master. They yearn for the yoke and a weak master invites betrayal from them.
NATO must take over St Petersburg to secure its air space!
>>65647661
>>65647523>they do fend off a few hundred Ukie drones each night and only a dozen or so get throughThey inflate the number of ukie drones, to have a false report of shooting down most of them, e.g. a 100 is launched but they report 600-800+ being launched, so that when they shoot down 50 of them IRL they can report "550-750 were shot down, only 5-10% made it through".
>>65647687It's a tradition.Soviet/russian officers have had this habit of exaggerating enemy forces to make their drastic failures seem less drastic at least since WWII.Records from the soviet side of winter/continuation war is full of that stuff. Soviets fought many losing battles against imaginary artillery units that never existed or were hundreds of km away.
>>65647430>bellyproofs, doe?)))
>>65647071One channel is saying that it was a KA-52, a MiG-31 and a MI-8 that got shot down which does account for their being seven crewmember deaths with two helecopters down. Although still no details about how this even happened in the first place.
>AAAHHHHHHH SKY IS FULL OF NEPTUNES AND FLAMINGOS, SHOOT AT EVERYTHING
>>65647776>>65647071it would be extremely hilarious if it's x2 KA-52, Mi-8 AND MiG-31. Now that would be a shitshow
>>65647820>>65647776would be so fucking funny
>>65647520>looks like Team Zigglet is blasting of agaaaaiin
>>65647727>Soviet/russian officers have had this habit of exaggeratingIt's not even a military thing, it's a cultural thing for russians. Any and all stars will be faked into oblivion for prestige reasons and such. Consider that during 1937-1938 alone NKVD (the predecessor to KGB) arrest over _fifty thousand_ "japanese spies" in USSR. To the point that NKVD was recruiting random soviet civilians, ordering them to do thing for the motherland ("you'll go over the border and spy for the motherland!"), then would release them "across the border" (not really) and have another NKVD squad arrest that same civilian as if he's a spy for the japs. Yes, it was a specially designed "spy mill" for beefing up stats. Same thing basically permeated soviet society. And it actually has roots in pre-soviet russian culture, e.g. last czar of russia was shown gymnasts dressed in military uniforms doing cool acrobatics, as way to show "look how cool and skillful our soldiers are". Yes, that happened. Should I even bring up the famous Potyomkin's villages?
>>65647520Do we know the injury/death rates of these things? Every time I see a ka-52 crew member evacuate from a crash they always wait until after they crash landed to get out instead of using the ejection seat
>>65647776>One channel is saying that it was a KA-52, a MiG-31 and a MI-8Interesting if they're having to use MiG-31s in an air defence role.Ukraine uses fighters for that but they don't have the catalogue of air defences that Russia does.>>65647687>They inflate the number of ukie drones, to have a false report of shooting down most of themSure but there are also reports on the Ukrainian side of things too.I suppose they don't have much incentive to tell their people that they're bombing Russia less than they're reported as doing but still, there has to be some substance to some of this.I wanted to post one of those raid maps that show the outgoing Ukie drones but I can't find one now and don't remember which channels post them.
>>65647856>Every time I see a ka-52 crew member evacuate from a crash they always wait until after they crash landed to get out instead of using the ejection seatFrankly, so would I.No, there's no hard data on survivability.I think most 'gators that get hit just instantly explode or the pilots are killed/disabled by the munition.We'd also need a decent number of ejections to be able to draw reliable conclusions from.
>>65647215Everything working as intended comrade, disposable rocket launcher, da, but rocket is launch.
>>65647873>Sure but there are also reports on the Ukrainian side of things too.Aren't those guestimations from 3rd party accounts though? It's been a while since I last checked official Ukrainian accounts, but don't remember them putting out exact numbers of their drone and missile raids into Russia.
Also, Omsk has been hit again.
>>65646807Didn't all or most of Russia's strategic bomber fleet get moved all the way out to the far east of Siberia a few days/weeks ago?
>>65647520
>>65647873>Sure but there are also reports on the Ukrainian side of things too.AFAIK ukies don't actually report the number of their drones and when you see them posting maps and such they rely on ruslims whining to generate those
>>65647885>Aren't those guestimations from 3rd party accounts though?Yes but those aren't Russian military reports, they're more like OSI.>>65647911>AFAIK ukies don't actually report the number of their drones and when you see them posting maps and such they rely on ruslims whining to generate thoseCorrect, there's some organised whining on the Russian side that attempts to provide drone alerts because the government choose not to do that for whatever reason.You both know the maps I mean, lots of red arrows flying out over Crimea.You must have saved some?
>>65647918>lots of red arrows flyingAh yes, the arrows must fly
I like how the longer this thread goes on, the longer the list of friendly fire gets.
>>65647451Fucking kek
THREE Russiana defense aircraft shot down? Ukrainian war crime
>>65647938No, four.
>>65647941Four? What? I've read only about three
>>65647941who needs aircraft anyway, this is a land war!
>>656479457 crew dead so there had to be a fourth, a single-seater
>>65646787
>>65647938>>656479451 friendly fire, 2 friendly fire, 3 friendly fire, 4 friendly fire. Ah ah ah
>>65647952
>>65647820>>656479523Nigger learn to fucking count
>>65647909KA-52%
>>65647971lmao
>>65646764So is this a new Ukie AA weapon strapped to drones or just a more drunk than usual Russian AA?
>>656479522 crew in a Ka-52Probably 3 in the Mi-8 - two pilots one crew chief2 crew in a MiG-31
>>65647953kek haven't seen that pic for a while
>>65647979Seems like the most effective method is to just let Russia hurt itself in the confusion
>>65647979>Ukraine sends drones to attack something>Russia sends up aircraft to engage them (helicopters and jets)>Russia fires AA missiles to destroy drones because they hit something, as an R40 or R33 is cheaper than your refinery being out of action for a week or two>Russia also has ground air defence>They are also engaging drones>They accidentally locked onto the helicopters and jets engaging the drones with their AA missiles>They get downedUkraine could have hit nothing on the ground and this was an extremely successful drone sortie because that's three expensive air assets gone. Yes they have 'more' but you now put more strain on those and their crew.
>>65648044>Russia also has ground air defenceApparently those dudes are operating entirely by ear.Ukraine has a sophisticated integrated air defence system so that air defence crews can track targets and know what's coming over their sector and are waiting to engage it.Zigger ground crews seem to just hear something buzzing and light it up.
>>65647979Russian AD is just THAT bad and poorly trained to boot. If they're even trained st all
>>65648051Better to be AA than to be sent to the front, tho I suspect that is what is gonna to happen to the crew(s) now...
>>65648055reassigned to meat waves unless bribes are paid most likely
>>65646897We don't talk about them. Especially not the 73rd Aircraft Repair Plant...I can still hear the squelching in my dreams.
>>65648103>Especially not the 73rd Aircraft Repair Plant...I can still hear the squelching in my dreamsMentos-enhanced Polyfoam warheads should be a warcrime.
>>65647979Given that UA is finally strapping drones to balloons i can't wait until they do the same thing but with something like APKWS or MANPADS.
>>65647520So what stops them from just getting minced by the blades?
>>65648117blades pop
>>65648117Rotor blades get exploded outwards amd away from the helicopter before the ejection seats come out
>>65647366Link dead :(
>>65648117In theory, rotor blades will be jettisoned first using explosive bolts. Of course only if actuall explosive material won't be stolen first, like that one from ERA panels on zigger tanks...
>>65648123any one have the video from priggys funny drive north™ where you can see the blades popping out just before they crash into the ground?
>>65648125What do they even do with stolen explosive material?
>>65647892PLEASE TELL ME THAT KLUB KROKODIL IS SAFE!!!
>>65648125>>65648123>>65648121Thanks Anons.So basically, the helicopter does a little explosion, which then allows for a bigger explosion to prevent the crew from dying in a larger explosion.
>>65648124>Link dead :(Oh for fuck's sake.I uploaded it again, got the same URL and it's broken too.This happens sometimes with catbox, not sure why.Anyway, this was the source.https://t.me/ButusovPlus/34691
>>65648138Knowing ziggers, probably tried to make a moonshine out of it
>>65648138>What do they even do with stolen explosive material?It's more that you can not buy it in the first place, save some money and keep the difference.The supplier writes that they gave you 1000k pyro bolts, you take the money from the budget, then you pay the supplier 25% and pocket the rest, the supplier takes the 25% and sends a delivery manifest for the bolts but no actual shipment.You sign it received and then go down to the hardware store and buy regular bolts for a few pennies.Or something like that.It could happen in the pyro bolt factory instead so that they're genuine pyro bolts stuffed with wax instead and their purchaser is skimming the explosives contract.Or the explosives company is mixing wax into the explosives and selling it diluted because they know it's not being used in actual blasting work or anything where anybody will notice.There's theft and skimming at every level of Russian supply chains.
>>65647776fucking hell the way puccians word everything is so annoying, like those boomer whatsapp groups
>>65648047>Apparently those dudes are operating entirely by ear.>>65648051>>65648055It's both a gear, personnel, command and culture issue at the same time, with every element compounding the others. >>65648125>Of course only if actuall explosive material won't be stolen firstIt doesn't need to be stolen, it could be just bad quality and fail to detonate - a quite common issue with soviet shit. Also often things like detonators or other such crucial parts can be removed from the gear "just in case" due to local military practice. Here are just a couple examples:- when the Kursk submarine blew up and sank, the automatic rescue buoy beacon didn't activate, I don't remember the details but it was either turned off inside or just bolted to the submarine forcefully so that it couldn't release itself, they did this because they were concerned that it would activate itself because of a false positive and thus fuck over opsec;- when the soviets had the "the hunt for the red october" story play out IRL, they wanted planes to bomb their own ship, but couldn't do it in time because the real bomb holding pins (which were needed for using real bomb loads) were kept in a locked safe (because what if war happens and you need them? need to keep them safe and accounted for) and the guy who had access to it was at home. that is to say in their day to day patrols and such they've used training pins instead lol;>>65648138>What do they even do with stolen explosive material?To sell off to hunters and fishermen who's use that for illegal fishing. Not even a joke.
>>65648156>the way puccians word everything is so annoyingWhile I agree, I feel like you should acknowledge that on the one hand, those are probably just Russian boomers and on the other, that's literally a cut&pasted prayer out of eastern orthodox dogma.
>>65647366> fixing targets purely by earThey banned gasoline mopeds/dirtbikes in crimea back in summer because "the sound interferes with aa work" btw.There also were conspiracy theories about "those dirtbike kids start to drive nearby just before the drones attack some important site! and they always seem to have rationing stamps and money ((from somewhere)) to buy all the fuel they need! thats suspicious!" at the time.
>>65648164>They banned gasoline mopeds/dirtbikes in crimea back in summer because "the sound interferes with aa work" btw.Meanwhile, people have been demanding that unmuffled bikes be cracked down on in Kyiv because it both triggers people and also interferes with acoustic triangulation (which is not by ear but by distributed networked stations that feed into the AD system).There's been literally no progress in a couple of years for whatever reason.
>>65648171>no progressOne of these biker types got whacked so gruesomely it made national news.
>>65648179I think they were thinking more like fines and maybe confiscating non-compliant bikes.
>>65647518Elite gays or something
>>65648228You do realize that over 50% of "friendly fire" accidents of the RU AA is just cope to avoid acknowledging that ukies shot them down. They're losing less of russian izat if they shot themselves down.
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