>>43647577
>but I'm such a freak trans women know I'm nothing like them
Honestly a lot of trans women are like that, even if they don't want to say it. In sounds like to me that you're holding yourself to a strict criteria with regards to your sex when that's not something most people do. Why not live as a woman, if you look like one and do the things they're allowed to do?

>>43647605
>Honestly a lot of trans women are like that, even if they don't want to say it.
No, I don't think so, I think you're misunderstanding. I don't even have like an online friend group of trans women. They're consistently extremely hostile to me. This is because I'm weird, number one, and number two because women aren't attracted to me (and vice versa). It's no secret that sexual desire and accessibility affects friendships in trans women, as someone who has no value in that avenue, there's no reason for them to befriend me.
>Why not live as a woman, if you look like one and do the things they're allowed to do?
Because the resemblance is only superficial. I can't undo male socialization, having no social foundation at the age of 29. All my attempts have failed miserably. Nobody likes me or wants me around, I'm weird, I'll never be able to be a woman even if I look like one. I tried and that just made me realize that being a woman isn't "passing" aesthetically, but so much more and I fundamentally lack that as a guy.

>>43647577
You need SRS

>>43649328
I don't want it and it wouldn't fix anything.

>”I’m kind of weird guis should i kms?”
Quit being a retard. Your obsession with yourself is your problem. It’s time to stop looking inward, you are the type of person that needs to take a break from introspecting. Start actually DOING and find out what you like and where you belong in the world. It takes time. Also, if you’re hot be my gf

>>43652232
Reddit advice, I've already tried doing quite a lot. Everyone on this board is an unempathetic chaser of some sort. No.

>>43652978
You either haven't, or you low rolled on luck / intelligence in this life and you need to continue doing more things until you figure it out / get lucky. you can be butt hurt about this if you like. Probably suicide is not the answer to solve what is at most a short-medium term emotional state, particularly if you are under 30. Adapting to and overcoming misery is a skill you can improve, it's really the only skill that matters in this life so you should keep grinding it

>>43654287
More Reddit platitudes.

>>43647577
why did you choose to
> I took HRT and got multiple surgeries (not SRS, I'm not transsexual)
instead of just being some fruity man?
You say you just want to be a normal man/woman but you constantly mention here that you are 100% not a woman, but still chose actions that take you far away from being a man?
Explain how this is not just total denial, and you are in fact lying when wanting to be a man. Once you manage to stop lying to yourself, further actions become pretty obvious

>>43655957
>instead of just being some fruity man?
Because I'm not a fruity man?
>You say you just want to be a normal man/woman but you constantly mention here that you are 100% not a woman, but still chose actions that take you far away from being a man?
Yes, because I wanted to escape the hell that was being a low-value male, and I naively thought, at one point, it was possible for me to become a woman. It wasn't; trans women don't become women, they already are and self-actualize through transition. I'm completely different. It was misguided.
>Explain how this is not just total denial, and you are in fact lying when wanting to be a man.
I would be fine either being a normal man or a woman (cis or trans), but unfortunately I'm stuck being a subhuman man and I can't become a woman. If I were either a normal man or a woman I would be able to live life, as it stands I can only fight tooth and nail for scraps of the human experience that everyone else takes for granted.

>>43655994
>Because I'm not a fruity man?
You said that you changed in order to: "to have the freedom to exist that women do in most avenues of their life in the first world."
What does that mean? Women have more freedom in regards to what they wear and how they socially interact (like showing your emotions more openly).
the word "fruity" ultimately just means you are a man who does it exactly like that. You say you are not a woman, you say you want to behave in a way only women are allowed but then you state that you are not "a fruity man".
But if you look at your main text you already said, that you are not a woman, and you are in fact a fruity man.
This means you are lying to yourself because only one of these options can be actually the truth, so maybe you should sit down and think really hard about whether you are a man or a woman. The things that come after are obvious

>>43656060
>You said that you changed in order to: "to have the freedom to exist that women do in most avenues of their life in the first world."
Yes?
>What does that mean?
I wanted to be able to like what I liked without condemnation, to do what I pleased without condemnation, to love who I loved without condemnation. That didn't work because I'm a guy.
>the word "fruity" ultimately just means you are a man who does it exactly like that.
"Fruity" has the connotation of being a gay, effeminate man, which I am not. Any gay male would tell you I'm not remotely the same species as them.
What I wanted--to be a woman--and what I am--a low-value, confused-for-autistic, reclusive male--are very different things, neither of which are "fruity man."
I think you're engaging with me based on what's "easier to process" versus what I'm actually articulating, what my actual experience is.

Is going to back to being a man and trying to make the most out of that out of the question?

>>43656101
I never stopped being a man. I'm still a man. The problem is I'm a low-value man with backwards desires that no one likes. Even the "baseline" of a Normal Dude is permanently out of reach for me, which is why I vainly tried to become a woman to begin with. I hate being subhuman.

>>43647577
Mood actually

I think it's just a product of being deeply traumatized

>>43655994
nta
>trans women don't become women, they already are and self-actualize through transition
with respect, this is simply not true all the time.
i'm the fakest trannies. I transitioned (srs included) for a fetish and because i thought it would be a wild thing to do.
I'm not as traumatized as you are but I continue to see myself as a failed male but also built a really comfortable life as socially female.
your problem is not the transition itself, nor whether you're 'trutrans' or not (whatever tf that means these days). your problem is that you never seriously considered how to LIVE. not how to "live as a woman" or how to live as a man. but how to live to begin with.
you can still fix that, but you're not going to as long as you're looking in the wrong direction and as long as you dismiss everything as reddit
>>43656145
tempted to agree, but only up to a point.
way too many younglings justify everything and anything on being traumatized.
recently a srsoid tranny in brazil died at age 80. she had srs 55 years ago. do you think her life as a "boy" in the 1950s was trauma-free?
call me insensitive and a bitch if you must, but please also do consider that we're leading much better lives than even just 10 years ago, let alone 50 years ago.

>>43656297
Okay? So it's not true 110% of the time but 99% of the time. Did you honestly think this was a refutation

>>43656515
>So it's not true 110% of the time but 99% of the time
nope. it's debatable whether it's even true 50% of the time.
you seem to be forgetting that up until 2 seconds ago the only way to get hrt was to lie to doctors and tell the approved script/story.

>>43656602
>you seem to be forgetting that up until 2 seconds ago the only way to get hrt was to lie to doctors and tell the approved script/story.
Non-sequitur

>>43656609
it's not. when you incentivize a particular type of story, you're going to get that story the most and not the true motivations.
but then again, you're not here to learn anything. you're here to be a retarded niggerfaggot who wants to feel smart.
you are not smart. you are a cretin.

>>43656683
The thing is that situation hasn't been the case for at least a decade, so.

>>43656703
>i do not understand cultural inertia, statistics, methodology or really anything
>of course, only 3-5 blue cities in the us exist, the rest of the world (which never changed) doesn't exist and doesn't matter on a board on which the whole planet can post
yes, anon. we already established you're a cretin

>>43656776
I can't speak for whatever is going on in Brazil dude this site was made by an American