I'm genuinely afraid that I'm not trans because I'm not agp, or hsts, or mef, and I even have a hard time trusting my own dysphoria. Transition also doesn't feel freeing at all, because it just made me more aware of how completely male I am. I even refuse to voicetrain, or change my wardrobe, or use makeup, or even just come out to the people I trust, because I am both afraid of actually being trans, and also (extremely) afraid of finding out that I'm not actually trans.How can I tell which fears are justified, and how can I work on silencing them? Can any other trans people relate?
>>43652903bump?
>>43653388bump.
>>43652903yeah i relate 100% i have agp but i only kind of developed it in my mid 20s pretty much because sexuality is just a way to cope.i think for me the issue is i cant express any kind of femininity, cant wear makeup or girls clothes, because i live with my family. when im around friends or whatever, it suddenly becomes a lot easier.
>>43652903Actually being trans isn't real, no one is valid, and you should transition anyway if you can pass for purely selfish reasons. Or don't, if you really don't want to. Whether you are "really" trans or not is unfalsifiable and the answer to it makes no material difference. Only transitioning actually does anything.
>>43654199Can't really argue with your last point if one looks at it pragmatically. Although even then, I'd still have pretty much the same worries and fears.
>>43652903none of those catagories are real, they are pathologizing stereotypes made by cis men who don't get it. you're just a woman.
>>43654696I hope you are right desu
>>43652903Is your dysphoria from actual physical things like your body parts and their functions, or does it come from what others think of you? Like do you want to have a vagina because of its capabilities or because it will you fit into the abstract ideal of a woman? If its due to the abstract reason don’t transition. Social reasons for trooning should always be secondary to physical reasons.
>>43654986If what I'm experiencing is dysphoria, then it's purely physical. I both really wish I could have had a female body, purely for it's own sake, and also have a persistent desire to rid myself of anything male. I have no reasons for wanting this, but a life without these changes is unimaginable
The entire problem can be summed up as "i live with my parents and have zero control over my own life"The solution is to get a fucking job and physically get away from your parents.
>>43655040What specific, physical parts of having a female body appeal to you, and why? What parts of having a male body do you dislike, and why?
>>43654199trvke
>>43655099>What specific, physical parts of having a female body appeal to you, and why?Every single one; Because they're female.>What parts of having a male body do you dislike, and why?All of them; Because they're male.
>>43655156Try to think in concrete, physical terms rather than “just because the label of female can be applied to them”. For example, in my case as a FTM: I am dysphoric over not having a penis because I wish to be able to sexually penetrate, impregnate, and pee standing up. Not because a penis is simply a part labeled male, and I wish to be male.
>>43655208I would just list every single physical difference and describe it's function as the reason why I want it. I want to have a womb to bear children, I want to have a vulva both for it's sexual and reproductive function, etc. And I'd also do the same thing for every male physical attribute which I wish I could rid myself of
>>43652903just bee yourselfif you want to transition then transition
>>43655367Thats real physical dysphoria then, I wish you luck in figuring out your transition.
>>43655447I guess so, even if I feel like my dysphoria can't actually be genuine. Thank you tho
>>43652903u sound like me im a cis male with trans ocd
>>43655643What would make it not genuine?
>>43655652You are a cis man with trans ocd about *not* being trans? Cause I'm afraid of being a man much more than of being a tranny, even if I do fear both
>>43655683I just have an obsession with the idea that I could be trans and have difficulty committing to either
>>43655663Mostly the fact that I only started consciously feeling any of this after I was already 20. Also the fact that I have doubts about it and still fear the possibility that I may regret it all.I at the same can't imagine living without transitioning, but also can't imagine ever transitioning, especially because I believe I don't have what it takes in order to transition
>>43655698That by itself doesn't sound like trans ocd. How do you feel about living your whole life as a man?
>>43654199yeah, if we imagine two people, a 50 year old man who has had severe dysphoria since he was a toddler, who troons out and looks like a man in a dress, and an agp looksmaxxer who troons out at 30, buys a bunch of surgeries and looks like a hot bimbo. who is valid? in terms of living a happy life, being socially accepted and self actualized? its the bimbomaxxer. doesnt matter how much pain your experience or how deeply you feel you must "really" be a woman. thats all crap and nobody in the real world is going to take it seriously.
>>43655734It feels like what I’m supposed to do. I thought I hated it but I’m not sure tbhon I think I only hate it bc I’m a failure If I were an attractive athletic confident male I think I’d love it actually
>>43652903Anon you're just normal then
>>43655776You haven't really answered my question. Do you actively enjoy being a man?
