>>43653881
Youngshit = before puberty.
Blockers used at puberty
midshit = during puberty
Lateshit= after puberty

youngshit = HRT before puberty (usually at or before 11-12)
midshit = HRT during puberty (usually before 15-16)
lateshit = HRT after puberty (usually at or after 15-16)
anything else is cope

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>>43653948
yep

>>43653948
so 13 or 15 sttil a youngshit?

>>43653977
no. midshit and lateshit

>>43654015
in my times 16 was a youngshit lol

>>43654043
i know, i use this board since 2019. i always said it was cope

>>43654064
what age you started E? but if 16 is always post puberty why so many trans woman pass starting at 16 and end up like a hon if they start in they mid 20 ?

>>43653881
Gigayoungshit: 10-12
Youngshit: 12-14
Midshit: 15-17
Lateshit: 18-21

>>43654085
in my times was
0/12 gigayoungshit
youngshit 12/17
midshit 18/25
lateshit 25+

Can't even be a lateshit anymore because now it means starting as a teenager.

>>43653977
Blockers at, 12 or 13 possibly without bockers, they would be like a midshit

>>43654074
16 is not always post puberty, only 20 is. because it also depends on genetics
im ultra lateshit i started at 20. my puberty was from 8 to 12

>im ultra lateshit i started at 20
lol. lmao even.

>>43654096
Bullshit! Anybody that starts out older than 13 would be a midshit, anyone over 15 in many cases would be a lateshit, depending on your puberty development

>>43654119
>you pass hon, it doesnt matter if you started 8 years after puberty haha

>>43654126
holly fuck the things changed... i renember 4chan seething when a 15/16 hrt girl come here

>>43653881
lateshit is anything past Tanner III or IV depending on when the voice drops
midshit is before Tanner III but in puberty
youngshit is before any puberty

>>43654107
Yes, some have midshit results even if they are over 16 because of weak puberty

>>43654128
I see the problem. Zoomers are so retarded they think starting young should mean guaranteed pass. And if they don't pass that mean they started too late and push the scale further back into preteen territory. lol lmao even

I started at 23. Left was 4mths on HRT
https://unseecc/album#J13swSfLNzza

>>43654147
True, but honestly, being a gigayoungshit is the only thing that can guarantee passability.

>>43654147
if you start at the onset of puberty you are guaranteed to pass yes thats how it works

>>43654148
same. We are not even lateshits anymore we are to the zoomers what the boomerhon sissies were to us.

>>43654148
>luckshit luckshits all over the thread
wow you can overcome starting late with insanely lucky genetics go figure

There are still big differences between starting at 25 and 40+. It is not ultra rare when beginning transition at 30 to pass.

>>43654169
if you say so

>>43654188
crazy lol

>>43654196
lmao even

>>43654212
how old are you millennial?

>>43654218
whats it to you kid

These new standards are retarded, the old ones were fine, blocker bitches are so exceedingly rare, using "youngshit" to refer to them can't be setting healthy expectations.

Gigayoungshit/blocker bitch 11-13
Youngshit 14-16
Midshit 17-24
Lateshit 25+

When it was roughly this it was fine, stop changing it

>>43654230
in my times things was simple

>>43654228
say your age millennial

>>43654183
I'm definitely not a luckshit. My genetics are trash. I just put in the early effort with extreme weight cycling and figuring out what hairstyles shape my face well and stuff like that

I do think I was maybe saved a little by potential intersex due to chimerism but that's too expensive to confirm

>>43654178
Yeahhh. Like I didn't even know what trans was till after HS. If I'd known sooner I would've at least started at 18, if not diy'd. But can't change the past, we just gotta do what we can for the future <3

>>43654254
heisenberg

>>43654230
Epstein bots trying to change our culture

>>43653948
>tfw lateshit
>tfw started HRT after 21
>tfw intershit
>tfw passoid
>tfw stealth now
The main question is how much you got raped by testosterone before, not at wich age you start.
Some people are screwed at 14, some people never entirely pass as their AGAB to begin with.

>>43654323
what type of intersex are u?

>>43654230
The 3 stages are:
>youngshit
Hasn't finished male puberty
>midshit
Finished male puberty, hasn't aged as male yet
>lateshit
Has aged as male
Putting a specific age to them doesn't work because some people start balding before hitting 18 and some never realy get hit much by puberty.

>>43654355
IDK never got officialy diagnosed because I'm from a "can't be trans and intersex" country wich would basicly have banned me from transioning.
Had a few doctors lie for me so I could get SRS lol

>>43654378
what kind of backwards country has a policy like that?

>>43654390
Too many, it's fucking stupid.

>>43654398
I can't fathom how someone could try and make them mutually exclusive. I can at least see the logic behind making being intersex a requirement to transition even if that's also stupid.

>>43654378
what??? so if you are a XXY man you cant get estrogen?

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>>43653881
30 and under: Youngshit
30 through 80: midshit
80-150: lateshit
150+: eldershit

>>43654428
150+: Longbeardshit

It's so duergover

These catty bitches are going to watch as John50 transforms into something you call 30 year olds

>>43654472
as a 2005 born idk about for me jhon 50 isn't a real thing, for me is jhon 30.
But i am not retarted who think 13 is midshit

>>43653881
Whatever whoever you're talking to says it is lmfao. It's just personal bias or prejudice. Some would say 17 is youngshit, some would say it's midshit, some would say it's lateshite. You can see it happening in the responses to this post. If someone says it actually means anything they're coping. There's no common convention. Let it be whatever you want it to be.

>>43654472
tbf I think with the information that's available nowadays that's gonna be the reality

>>43654489
you are brazilian retard. obviously john 50 isnt a real thing for you

>>43654527
how DYK ?

Groomedshit: 0 - 12
Youngshit: 13 - 15
Midshit: 16 - 17
Oldshit: 18 - 21
HomoSexualTransSexualshit: 22+

>>43654547
>namefag
>solitude tardia

>>43654551
>Groomedshit
LMAO
thats good

>>43654554
i know i was just joking... i know a lot of youngshits here, but most of then are just normal girls or sound like a gay man in girl clothes, i hate this country.

>>43654576
i suffer IMMENSELY as the first brazilian hon

>>43654594
i know a lot of twinkhons and some hons too

>>43654606
yea i know a lot of gringxs too

>>43654257
>I just put in the early effort with extreme weight cycling
weight cycling doesn't work
>figuring out what hairstyles shape my face well
so your features are good enough to pass with long hair

nice, thanks for confirming you're a luckshit

>>43654615
i say the brazilians one, i dont know if most trans girls here pass,i am also pretty twinksih same satarting pretty early

>>43654643
>i say the brazilians one
blocker brain

>>43654652
me deixa... eu tenho probleminhas com linguagem no geral msm (: eh meu jeitinho especial

>>43654361
Only true way to think of it, the difference between 18 and 25 is so dramatic in many because high testosterone isn’t something that only happens in your teens and some people also look like a father of 3 at 20 with how they bald while others still 16. It’s too variable to narrow down any other way, especially considering that different people start puberty at different points

why are there so many namefags in this thread

>>43654630
Weight cycling 100% works
I went from all of my fat being on my upper body to my ass and thighs after going between 125-165 a few times

>>43654698
Without some way to kill existing adipocytes this seems suspect, especially if you start at the high weight before transition.

>>43654698
height? unless you're literally anorexic, i'm talking >16 BMI before hrt gaining weight just gives you a beer gut

>t. 19 BMI pre hrt who tried gaining weight and immediately got a stomach

>>43654731
fuck my stupid brain i meant <16 BMI

>>43654096
this is cope
midshit needs to be 18-21 ie as soon as youre away from parents and on your own
lateshit is 22+

like imo it should work according to experice
gigayoung 14 or less
young = sometime in highschool
mid = after moving out or finishing hs
late = repped until your mid 20s or later

could just be coping though

>>43654428
Old man's fantasy about transitioning, LOL

>>43654725
>Without some way to kill existing adipocytes this seems suspect
thats simplistic. estrogen controls how much fat cells can grow and shrink. also muscle atrophy is important

>>43654504
It's not really an exact age.
Generally speaking, youngshit, someone who transitions before puberty. Midshit, during puberty. Lateshit, someone translations after puberty

>>43654829
>estrogen controls how much fat cells can grow and shrink
no? your body reinflates existing fat cells over creating new ones

>>43653948
what abt starting hormones at 14 yrs old and tanner 3

2017 /tttt/ definitions:
>youngshit: before 25
>midshit: I don't remember this being a thing
>lateshit: after 40

>>43654931
>reinflates existing fat cells
estrogen controls how much fat cells can grow and shrink

>>43654945
midshit

>>43654967
okay then explain why gaining weight outright doesn't work for most trannies and just creates moid fat
>inb4 hondosing
even in most trannies here on injections

i miss when ppl would tell me to kms for complaining abt hrt at 16. trvly tho i do kinda give midshit twinkhon when i eat food but when i stxrve i look more youngshit

>>43654982
estrogen stimulates and inhibits new fat cells in a pattern. estrogen also limits how much existing fat cells can grow in a pattern
both are important and weight cycling accelerates the latter

>>43655086
there's literally no evidence for weight cycling it makes current fat cells more resilient
it's honscience

>>43655086
PPARy is what induced the creation of new adipocytes and that's why people take pioglitazone.

Diet and lifestyle can also influence fat patterns too, and there are other medications (peptides, berberine, etc.) that can bias away from visceral fat.

>>43655095
no shit there is no evidence for weight cycling in trannies lol

>>43655109
yes but its a stretch to say that you would look the same before and after

i swear just 4 or 5 years ago no one used the word midshit

>>43655141
It is but like, probably dependent on weight prior to transition. I imagine it's effective for girls who had minimal body fat prior to transition and counterproductive for those who had a lot.

>>43655187
the problem is that recently a lot of people are saying that weight cycling straight up doesnt work at all, its honscience and all that. but it does work
idk if it is in response to the retards pushing fatmaxxing
people starting with high bw need to worry more about muscles, trannies starting with low bw need to worry more about fat. there is obviously a lot more to it

>>43655244
Well the ideal seems to be minimizing visceral fat and building subcutaneous fat while trying to bias towards the lower body. But also yeah muscle building is really important (and what I really need to do).

>>43655272
you are so nice snoymoder
i want to be like you when i grow up

>>43653881
All three stink good

>>43655379
truer words never spoken

>>43653881
>she didn't start hrt in her moms womb

>>43654978
sigh over

>>43655167
yeah because it was the default if that makes any sense? everyone on the site was a midshit so there wasnt a word needed to describe it, you dont say someones a midshit you just say that theyre trans. this is because youngshits (mainly) and oldshits were rarer.

>>43655109
i transheart pioglitazone

>>43655109
Fwiw I'm going on 9y HRT and I saw the most body fat changes the last 10 months

>>43653916
I hate ts cuz I was too busy being in a hoarder home with a wife beater dad and a mom that constantly degraded me until he went deadbeat and I had to parent for my siblings and beg for medicine I could never get
I never stood a fuckin chance